Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey Billy,

Thanks for moving it away from 9/11, every time I start looking at the traitors in America my blood boils and the ground trembles...

7 - 6+ earthquakes since I started talking about all of this again...

I'm going to bring important threads across related to this subject as I keep searching, click the little blue arrows at the beginning of each post to view the discussions.

Posted by Hervé (here)
A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."

The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied

The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied

But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

"Already in 1872 people were writing about it in a worried way - What does it mean that Holy Writ appears on this piece of Weetabix?" he joked to Fox News, referring to a cereal similar in shape to the tablet.

"I'm sure the story of the flood and a boat to rescue life is a Babylonian invention," he said.

A television documentary due to be broadcast later this year will follow attempts to build the ark according to the ancient manual.

Does Finkel think the ark was real?

"I don't think the ark existed - but a lot of people do," he said. "It doesn't really matter. The Biblical version is a thing of itself and it has a vitality forever."

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thanks Billy for pulling it away from 9/11 discussions, boils my blood and the ground starts rumbling... 7 6+ earthquakes since I started speaking of it again.

Posted by Hervé (here)
A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."

The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied

The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied

But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hey Billy, thanks for breaking it off from 9/11 discussions, just since I started bringing this all up again, the earth has started shaking, 7 6+ earthquakes...

I am going to bring threads relating to this subject as I work my way through Avalon to find the missing thread...

click the blue arrows to go to the discussion.

Posted by Hervé (here)
A 4000-year-old tablet from ancient Mesopotamia contains the specifications for an ark pre-dating the story of Noah


IT'S a few notches on a 4000-year-old clay tablet. But what it reveals about the ancient biblical story of Noah's ark has scholars crowing the world over.

The British Museum yesterday put the recently deciphered clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia - now Iraq - on display.

It's claimed to be one of the most important archaeological discoveries ever.

What it contains are specifications for the legendary Ark which was said to have saved two of each animal - and a handful of humans - from a catastrophic flood.

But some of the details are different to the generally known version.

It describes a circular vessel known as a coracle, not the rectangular vessel of modern mythology.

"It was really a heart-stopping moment - the discovery that the boat was to be a round boat," the tablet's discoverer, Irving Finkel said. "That was a real surprise."

The 4000 year old clay tablet containing the story of the Ark and the flood stands on display at the British Museum in London during the launch of the book 'The Ark Before Noah' by Irving Finkel, curator in charge of cuneiform clay tablets at the British Museum. (AP Photo/Sang Tan) Source: Supplied

The tablet records a Mesopotamian god's instructions for building a giant vessel - two-thirds the size of a soccer field in area - made of rope, reinforced with wooden ribs and coated in bitumen.

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Etched in the clay is one of the story's key elements: It describes how the animals must enter "two by two".

TOMB RAIDERS: The myth that drove two Germans to deface the Great Pyramid
The British Museum says the detail contained in the tablet can be analysed by naval architects to determine if such a vessel could have actually sailed.

Mr Finkel is the British Museum assistant keeper of the Middle East. He is releasing a book on the tablet titled: "The Ark Before Noah".

"(The tablet is) one of the most important human documents ever discovered," he said.
And the newly revealed design, he said, was "perfect".

"It never sinks, it's light to carry."

Coracle versus ocean-going streamlined design? Inset top, a sketch of the design of a common river-going coracle. Source: Supplied

But Finkel said that while the design appear sound, he isn't sure a "coracle" of that scale would have floated.

David Owen, professor of ancient Near Eastern studies at Cornell University, said the British Museum curator had made "an extraordinary discovery."

Elizabeth Stone, an expert on the antiquities of ancient Mesopotamia at New York's Stony Brook University, said it made sense that ancient Mesopotamians would depict their mythological ark as round.

This is not the first time the ancient story of the ark has been found outside of the bible. But it is the earliest.

The flood story recurs in later Mesopotamian writings including the "Epic of Gilgamesh."

Finkel says the discovery may cause dissent among believers in the biblical story. When 19th-century British Museum scholars first learned from cuneiform tablets that the Babylonians had a flood myth, they were disturbed by its similarities to the story of Noah.

"Already in 1872 people were writing about it in a worried way - What does it mean that Holy Writ appears on this piece of Weetabix?" he joked to Fox News, referring to a cereal similar in shape to the tablet.

"I'm sure the story of the flood and a boat to rescue life is a Babylonian invention," he said.

A television documentary due to be broadcast later this year will follow attempts to build the ark according to the ancient manual.

Does Finkel think the ark was real?

"I don't think the ark existed - but a lot of people do," he said. "It doesn't really matter. The Biblical version is a thing of itself and it has a vitality forever."

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

...I am King David of Kurdistan

I am sitting on God's throne in Elam...

so tell me my friend, is it divine destiny?


...my throne is in Kurdistan...

noticed this last night on Gordon micheal Scallions future map of the world....

if you take a look at what today would be modern day kurdistan on the future map, it is left standing in generally the same shape as is presented today...with (what looks to me) like the majority of elam is still above water...

thunder, allow me to suggest listening to another Ralph Elis video. Elis is one of the world's leading scholars offering alternate Biblical interpretations, based on Archaeological Evidence discovered over the past 100+ years.

Elis will explain in this video (or better yet, get the book) how the New Testament story of Jesus was based on the life of a King from Edessa, Ancient Kurdistan, modern day Şanlıurfa, Turkey.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QsNOAUMyKIo

Please take the time to listen to the Elis Videos that I've offered. Without foundational understanding, one cannot possibly have an intelligent debate.

add/edit:

Here's another Elios Video in the series on Jesus, King of Edessa. You might find more information contained within this one:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

that location in Turkey is where the 12,500 year old Spiritual center is... remember U R far? Urfa

birthplace of Abraham, and now, King Jesus?

this is where the huge isis battle was fought recently 30 miles away in Kobane...

Kurds are the ancient protectors of the holy lands, now this is getting interesting,

Thanks again...

[Rocky_Shorz]

found it...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Alexander the Great,

Alexander himself had made known his wish to be buried at the well-known temple of the supreme Egyptian god Ammon Ra in the remote oasis of Siwa, in the Egyptian-Libyan desert. Alexander had made a crucial visit to this oracular shrine in 331, when he had taken Egypt from the Persians.
link

With a population of 23,000, Siwa was, for a long time, the most inaccessible of all Egypt’s Oasis until very recently. It became an adventure travel destination once its notoriety began to rise. The region which lays some 60 feet below sea-level includes a rich history. Notably, Alexander the Great visited to consult the Oracle of Amun in 331 BC. Accomplished archaeologists, such as Liana Souvaltsis, have implied that the great general was buried here, but no factual evidence exists of this. Legends abound of mystical protections which cover the oasis... link

2340 BC: Sargon I of Kish builds a new capital, Agade (Akkad, later Babylon) and adopts the Semitic language Akkadian instead of Sumerian
2334 BC: Sargon defeats Lugalzagesi conquers Uruk, Ur, Lagash and Umma, thus uniting Akkadian and Sumerian peoples, thus becoming the first emperor in history
2330 BC: Sargon's daughter Enheduanna is a poetess
2320 BC: Sargon invades Lebanon and the Taurus Mountains and creates the Akkadian empire
2300 BC: the Amorites (Semitic people) migrate from Arabia to Syria
2278 BC: Sargon dies and is succeeded by his son Rimush, who sacks Elam
2254 BC: Akkadian king Naram Sin, another son of Sargon, further expands the empire, east and north
2217 BC: Naram Sin dies and is succeeded by his son Sharkalisharri
2200 BC: Royal graves of Alaca Hoyuk (Anatolia, 200 kms northeast of Ankara)
2180 BC: the Akkadian empire is destroyed by the Guti, who invade from the north, and the Elamites of Susa regain their independence
2150 BC: the Sumerians of Lagash revolt against the Guti
2125 BC: Gudea becomes king of Lagash and builds the monumental sanctuary of Eninnu
2116 BC: the Sumerians of Uruk revolt against the Guti
2112 BC: Ur-Nammu of Uruk recreates the Sumerian empire and rebuilds Ur, including the temple of Nanna and the three-terraced ziggurat
2100 BC: the Hurrians settle in the mountains between Mesopotamia and Anatolia and found the holy city of Urkish
2094 BC: Ur-Nammu dies and is succeeded by his son Shulgi/Dulgi, who expands the Sumerian empire to Susa and to the north, bordering the Amorites to the west, the Elamites to the east and the Hurrians (Indo-European people) to the north
2046 BC: Shulgi dies
2018 BC: the Sumerian empire disintegrates
2017 BC: the Sumerian governor of Mari, Ishbi Erra, establishes his own dynasty with capital at Isin
2007 BC: the Elamites of Susa capture Ur
2000 BC: the game of chess ("shatranj") develops in Persia
1932 BC: Gungunum becomes king of the Amorites with capital at Larsa, builds the E-Babbar temple and conquers Ur and Elam
1900 BC: the cities of Assur and Nineveh form an Assyrian kingdom
1900 BC: the Sukkalmah dynasty seizes power in Elam, turning it into a regional power
1900 BC: the Epic of Gilgamesh is redacted in the semitic language of Babylon
1900 BC: the Assyrians emerge from the holy city of Ashur (north Iraq) to establish colonies in Anatolia with headquarters in Nesa (Kanes, Kultepe)
1894 BC: Babylon is conquered by an Amorite dynasty
1834 BC: an Elamite, Warad Sin, becomes king of Larsa
1810 BC: Amorite dynasties seize power in the cities of Ugarit (Lebanon), Aleppo (Syria), Ashur and Mari
1809 BC: Shamshi-Adad conquers the cities of Mari, Ashur and Ekallutum, and thus creates the Assyrian empire
1800 BC: the Hittites invent irons and build the first weapons made of iron
1800 BC: the Babylonians employ a duodecimal system (a system based on 12 and 6) to measure time
1794 BC: Larsa (king Rim-Sin) conquers Isin
1792 BC: Hammurabi, sixth king of the Amorite dynasty, is crowned king of Babylon
1787 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-states of Uruk and Isin
1775 BC: Work begins on the Etemenanki, the ziggurath to god Marduk, in Babylon
1764 BC: Hammurabi defeats the Elamites
1763 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Larsa, and thus Ur, Uruk, Isin
1761 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Mari
1755 BC: Hammurabi creates the first code of laws using the Babylonian language
1750 BC: Hammurabi dies and the Babylonian empire dissolves into city-states
1725 BC: Kutir-Nahhunte I revolts against the Babylonians and Elam regains its independence
1725 BC: Pithana, king of Kussara, conquers Nesa
1700 BC: Babylonians invent the first windmills for the purpose of irrigation
1700 BC: Anitta of Kussara, Pithana's son, ruling from Kussara, conquers eastern Anatolia
1700 BC: the "Enuma Elish" (creation story of the Babylonians) originates
1680 BC: Labarna of Kussara reaches the Mediterranean Sea
1650 BC: Hattusili, son or nephew of Labarna, founds the Hittite kingdom, moves the capital from Kussara to Hattusa (150 kms east of Ankara) and adopts the language of Nesa
1640 BC: Hattusili fights the kingdom of Iamhad (with capital in Aleppo)
1600 BC: Hattusili's son Mursili becomes king of the Hittites
1595 BC: the Hittites under king Mursili I conquer the kingdom of Iamhad (Aleppo) and raid Babylon, thus ending the Amorite dynasty
1590 BC: the Hittite king, Mursili, is assassinated by Hantili, who becomes king
1590 BC: the Hittites install the Kassite dynasty (originating from the Central Asian steppes) in Babylon
1530 BC: the Kassites build a new capital, Durkurigalzu
1525 BC: Telipinu becomes king of the Hittites
1500 BC: a caravan trader, Abraham, leads nomads from Sumer to Canaan and then on to Egypt (Hebrews)
1480 BC: king Parattarna invades the lands of the Hurrians and creates the (Indo-European) Mitanni empire in northern Mesopotamia/Syria with capital in Wassuganni
1475 BC: the Mitanni king Parattarna conquers the kingdom of Aleppo and installs Idrimi as a vassal
1458 BC: the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis III defeats the Mitannis and conquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Saustatar conquers Assyria and reconquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Artatama and the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis IV sign a peace treaty
1365 BC: king Asuruballit restores independence to Assyria
1350 BC: the city of Ugarit (Syria) employs an alphabet of 32 letters
1344 BC: Suppiluliuma becomes king of the Hittites
1340 BC: King Untash-Napirisha of Elam founds a new capital at Chogha Zanbil
1339 BC: king Suppiluliuma of the Hittites conquers the Mitanni empire and establishes two viceregal kingdoms in Aleppo and Carchemish
1307 BC: Adadnirari I becomes king of Assyria and defeats and destroys the Mitanni empire
1275 BC: Khumbannumena expands the Elamite empire
1274 BC: the Egyptian king Rameses II is defeated by the Hittite king Muwatallis II at the city of Kadesh
1259 BC: peace treaty between Egyptians (Ramesses II) and Hittites (king Hattusili III)
1250 BC: the Hebrews return from Egypt and establish a kingdom in Palestine
1250 BC: the Assyrian army employs iron swords, lances, metal armors
1250 BC: the Assyrians divide the circle into 360 degrees
1250 BC: the Elamites build the ziggurat at Choga Zambil, the largest of all times
1237 BC: Hittite king Hattusili III dies and is succeeded by his son Tudhaliya IV, who builds a palace on the acropolis of the capital, Hattusa
1225 BC: the Assyrians under king Tukulti-Ninurta I capture Babylon
1208 BC: the Assyrian king, Tukulti-Ninurta I, is murdered by his son
1200 BC: the Philistines settle along the shores of Palestine
1200 BC: the Arameans migrate from Arabia to Syria (Harrans)
1200 BC: the Phoenicians move from the Arabian peninsula to the Mediterranean coast
1185 BC: the Hittite empire collapses under the invasion of the "Sea Peoples"
history timeline...

sea people as in Atlantis, or...?

[thunder24]

Observer, I listened to this

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

I find it very interesting... one thing I got out of it was josephus useing different name then jesus in his historical records... I always wondered about why josephus didn't mention jesus.. now I am beginning to get some knowledge on this...thankyou

Also if i heard correctly ... the historian josephus was actually saul... I think I heard that correctly in the link... Now if this is so...dang that explains alot... but either way, the interview I find helped connect dots for me, i will need to listen again.. thankyou....

[observer]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
found it...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Alexander the Great,

Alexander himself had made known his wish to be buried at the well-known temple of the supreme Egyptian god Ammon Ra in the remote oasis of Siwa, in the Egyptian-Libyan desert. Alexander had made a crucial visit to this oracular shrine in 331, when he had taken Egypt from the Persians.
link

With a population of 23,000, Siwa was, for a long time, the most inaccessible of all Egypt’s Oasis until very recently. It became an adventure travel destination once its notoriety began to rise. The region which lays some 60 feet below sea-level includes a rich history. Notably, Alexander the Great visited to consult the Oracle of Amun in 331 BC. Accomplished archaeologists, such as Liana Souvaltsis, have implied that the great general was buried here, but no factual evidence exists of this. Legends abound of mystical protections which cover the oasis... link

2340 BC: Sargon I of Kish builds a new capital, Agade (Akkad, later Babylon) and adopts the Semitic language Akkadian instead of Sumerian
2334 BC: Sargon defeats Lugalzagesi conquers Uruk, Ur, Lagash and Umma, thus uniting Akkadian and Sumerian peoples, thus becoming the first emperor in history
2330 BC: Sargon's daughter Enheduanna is a poetess
2320 BC: Sargon invades Lebanon and the Taurus Mountains and creates the Akkadian empire
2300 BC: the Amorites (Semitic people) migrate from Arabia to Syria
2278 BC: Sargon dies and is succeeded by his son Rimush, who sacks Elam
2254 BC: Akkadian king Naram Sin, another son of Sargon, further expands the empire, east and north
2217 BC: Naram Sin dies and is succeeded by his son Sharkalisharri
2200 BC: Royal graves of Alaca Hoyuk (Anatolia, 200 kms northeast of Ankara)
2180 BC: the Akkadian empire is destroyed by the Guti, who invade from the north, and the Elamites of Susa regain their independence
2150 BC: the Sumerians of Lagash revolt against the Guti
2125 BC: Gudea becomes king of Lagash and builds the monumental sanctuary of Eninnu
2116 BC: the Sumerians of Uruk revolt against the Guti
2112 BC: Ur-Nammu of Uruk recreates the Sumerian empire and rebuilds Ur, including the temple of Nanna and the three-terraced ziggurat
2100 BC: the Hurrians settle in the mountains between Mesopotamia and Anatolia and found the holy city of Urkish
2094 BC: Ur-Nammu dies and is succeeded by his son Shulgi/Dulgi, who expands the Sumerian empire to Susa and to the north, bordering the Amorites to the west, the Elamites to the east and the Hurrians (Indo-European people) to the north
2046 BC: Shulgi dies
2018 BC: the Sumerian empire disintegrates
2017 BC: the Sumerian governor of Mari, Ishbi Erra, establishes his own dynasty with capital at Isin
2007 BC: the Elamites of Susa capture Ur
2000 BC: the game of chess ("shatranj") develops in Persia
1932 BC: Gungunum becomes king of the Amorites with capital at Larsa, builds the E-Babbar temple and conquers Ur and Elam
1900 BC: the cities of Assur and Nineveh form an Assyrian kingdom
1900 BC: the Sukkalmah dynasty seizes power in Elam, turning it into a regional power
1900 BC: the Epic of Gilgamesh is redacted in the semitic language of Babylon
1900 BC: the Assyrians emerge from the holy city of Ashur (north Iraq) to establish colonies in Anatolia with headquarters in Nesa (Kanes, Kultepe)
1894 BC: Babylon is conquered by an Amorite dynasty
1834 BC: an Elamite, Warad Sin, becomes king of Larsa
1810 BC: Amorite dynasties seize power in the cities of Ugarit (Lebanon), Aleppo (Syria), Ashur and Mari
1809 BC: Shamshi-Adad conquers the cities of Mari, Ashur and Ekallutum, and thus creates the Assyrian empire
1800 BC: the Hittites invent irons and build the first weapons made of iron
1800 BC: the Babylonians employ a duodecimal system (a system based on 12 and 6) to measure time
1794 BC: Larsa (king Rim-Sin) conquers Isin
1792 BC: Hammurabi, sixth king of the Amorite dynasty, is crowned king of Babylon
1787 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-states of Uruk and Isin
1775 BC: Work begins on the Etemenanki, the ziggurath to god Marduk, in Babylon
1764 BC: Hammurabi defeats the Elamites
1763 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Larsa, and thus Ur, Uruk, Isin
1761 BC: Hammurabi conquers the city-state of Mari
1755 BC: Hammurabi creates the first code of laws using the Babylonian language
1750 BC: Hammurabi dies and the Babylonian empire dissolves into city-states
1725 BC: Kutir-Nahhunte I revolts against the Babylonians and Elam regains its independence
1725 BC: Pithana, king of Kussara, conquers Nesa
1700 BC: Babylonians invent the first windmills for the purpose of irrigation
1700 BC: Anitta of Kussara, Pithana's son, ruling from Kussara, conquers eastern Anatolia
1700 BC: the "Enuma Elish" (creation story of the Babylonians) originates
1680 BC: Labarna of Kussara reaches the Mediterranean Sea
1650 BC: Hattusili, son or nephew of Labarna, founds the Hittite kingdom, moves the capital from Kussara to Hattusa (150 kms east of Ankara) and adopts the language of Nesa
1640 BC: Hattusili fights the kingdom of Iamhad (with capital in Aleppo)
1600 BC: Hattusili's son Mursili becomes king of the Hittites
1595 BC: the Hittites under king Mursili I conquer the kingdom of Iamhad (Aleppo) and raid Babylon, thus ending the Amorite dynasty
1590 BC: the Hittite king, Mursili, is assassinated by Hantili, who becomes king
1590 BC: the Hittites install the Kassite dynasty (originating from the Central Asian steppes) in Babylon
1530 BC: the Kassites build a new capital, Durkurigalzu
1525 BC: Telipinu becomes king of the Hittites
1500 BC: a caravan trader, Abraham, leads nomads from Sumer to Canaan and then on to Egypt (Hebrews)
1480 BC: king Parattarna invades the lands of the Hurrians and creates the (Indo-European) Mitanni empire in northern Mesopotamia/Syria with capital in Wassuganni
1475 BC: the Mitanni king Parattarna conquers the kingdom of Aleppo and installs Idrimi as a vassal
1458 BC: the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis III defeats the Mitannis and conquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Saustatar conquers Assyria and reconquers Syria
1400 BC: the Mitanni king Artatama and the Egyptian pharaoh Tuthmosis IV sign a peace treaty
1365 BC: king Asuruballit restores independence to Assyria
1350 BC: the city of Ugarit (Syria) employs an alphabet of 32 letters
1344 BC: Suppiluliuma becomes king of the Hittites
1340 BC: King Untash-Napirisha of Elam founds a new capital at Chogha Zanbil
1339 BC: king Suppiluliuma of the Hittites conquers the Mitanni empire and establishes two viceregal kingdoms in Aleppo and Carchemish
1307 BC: Adadnirari I becomes king of Assyria and defeats and destroys the Mitanni empire
1275 BC: Khumbannumena expands the Elamite empire
1274 BC: the Egyptian king Rameses II is defeated by the Hittite king Muwatallis II at the city of Kadesh
1259 BC: peace treaty between Egyptians (Ramesses II) and Hittites (king Hattusili III)
1250 BC: the Hebrews return from Egypt and establish a kingdom in Palestine
1250 BC: the Assyrian army employs iron swords, lances, metal armors
1250 BC: the Assyrians divide the circle into 360 degrees
1250 BC: the Elamites build the ziggurat at Choga Zambil, the largest of all times
1237 BC: Hittite king Hattusili III dies and is succeeded by his son Tudhaliya IV, who builds a palace on the acropolis of the capital, Hattusa
1225 BC: the Assyrians under king Tukulti-Ninurta I capture Babylon
1208 BC: the Assyrian king, Tukulti-Ninurta I, is murdered by his son
1200 BC: the Philistines settle along the shores of Palestine
1200 BC: the Arameans migrate from Arabia to Syria (Harrans)
1200 BC: the Phoenicians move from the Arabian peninsula to the Mediterranean coast
1185 BC: the Hittite empire collapses under the invasion of the "Sea Peoples"
history timeline...

sea people as in Atlantis, or...?

Thank you Rocky, for this expanded documentation of the history in great antiquity.

If one studies the real history of the Middle East, as in Ralph Ellis' work for instance, one will quickly discover the power struggle was always between Bloodline Royal Families. It doesn't take much cognition to realize these are the same Bloodline Royal Families that control the Mass of Humanity from behind the smoke-and-mirrors of today's world.

It's all about the Bloodline....

[observer]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
Observer, I listened to this

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n7aczBdyFw0

I find it very interesting... one thing I got out of it was josephus useing different name then jesus in his historical records... I always wondered about why josephus didn't mention jesus.. now I am beginning to get some knowledge on this...thankyou

Also if i heard correctly ... the historian josephus was actually saul... I think I heard that correctly in the link... Now if this is so...dang that explains alot... but either way, the interview I find helped connect dots for me, i will need to listen again.. thankyou....

You are correct in your assumption, thunder.

Josephus and Saul were one-in-the-same individual.

Ralph Ellis is not the only scholar who is exploring this possibility. The members might also want to listen to what Joseph Atwill is saying about the Josephus/Saul conundrum.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lcro8yvAfwM

[Rocky_Shorz]

after the ice age, most humans in the southern climates, never prepared for cold didn't survive, yet, the Celts who survived brutal winters yearly survived being close to the water where temperatures were buffered from ocean heat, even in extreme cold.

what followed was a spread all across the European/Asian/India continent civilization was wiped back to the stone ages. It was 12,500 years ago when the Spiritual Center in Ur was built that they started evolving past the hunter gatherers. Massive farming operations were started in Syria, and ET we know as Sasquatch appeared to help man learn modern farming techniques.

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
looking around Istanbul I ran across an interesting rock carving I hadn't seen before...

Relief of King Sargon II riding in his chariot
The walls of the palaces of Neo-Assyrian kings were lined with carved slabs of gypsum showing the king and his court. This example from the private chambers of the palace at Khorsabad (710-705 B.C.) shows the king, riding through a forest in his chariot link

take a look at the image above the king...

Landing/docking stations for ET crafts, did they teach man mass food production, then leave with their cargoes full?

look at the far left is it a man in a vehicle waiting to get loaded?

see the notches in all of those spirals? catches for spaceships?

on the top right you see one flying, but is that a guard in a space suit in front of a building?



can everyone see the attachment?

now for all of you Bigfoot/Sasquatch fans...

now the horned horses drew my attention to this furry guy watching the King ride by in the chariot, was bigfoot brought here as slaves for this mission to teach man mass producing food? and left behind? and yes, that does look like a crown on his head...

This is when I believe those who were whisked away started returning in the ET "arks, races who were brought to many different planets to survive, were dropped off to start rebuilding earths populations again.

the great floods hit, which didn't kill everyone off like the ice age did, this time a real ship sailed the seas and landed in Mesopotamia, modern day Turkish Kurdistan


now I had never considered Jesus to be a King in this era, at this same location all of this history had happened...

is this why isis is trying to destroy all the artifacts from this region before UN-explainable truths are revealed?

what if Jesus became the leader on a planet the ET's hauled everyone to...

what if his excile brought him to another world and ET taught him gifts and knowledge to pass on to the other humans?

what if that stone carving wasn't Sargon, it was King Jesus riding in the chariot after his return...

maybe, that wasn't a carving of when he returned, but when he was leaving, did he return 700 years after this carving and have the abilities of a God from what he had learned?

so many questions...

[Rocky_Shorz]

well let's look at it from another angle,

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, it is recorded he joined the Essenes in his young teens. They appeared from no where and disappeared without a trace.

They are described the same as Nordics, ET Space and Time travelers who recently came through a worm hole over Texas.

What if they traveled back in time with him to 700BC at a time when man needed to get modernized to keep the growing population from starving, the ones who saw him leave, considered him in exile...

He returned at age 27, dropped off in Jerusalem and with his knowledge became the King of Kings, teaching non violence, healing, walking on water, esoteric knowledge taught him by the Nordics... in those times, he was a God with all of his gifts and when he spoke, his words rang true and everyone who heard them, became a follower...

his knowledge shared with the 12 tribes in Kurdistan became the religion of peace we all know now...

your videos are trying to explain it without the mention of ET, but from what my spirit is sharing, this is a path to be looked into much closer...

[take]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.






.......

[Rocky_Shorz]

I just had a helicopter do a low level flyover, it was white with a glass dome under it like a glass bottom boat, I waved at the Pope...

so let's put this in modern terms, my theory is Jesus was like Marty from back to the future, Doc was the Essenes

while back on Sargon's era, Doc popped in and said Marty we have a crisis for your kids...

though he lived to 37, 70 years after his birth, he led a revolt against the Roman Empire...

are all of you understanding yet...

Jesus was with the Essenes from young teens, to 27 years old...

in my mind I can see exactly how everything shared in these Egyptian history (relating to the bible) video is possible once you add in the Essenes and time travel. King Jesus went forward and back in time to meet who needed the knowledge when it was needed.

from my experience, religions are right about the singular God, His wife standing beside him, and his son were all there in one dream. All three looked human but God was a Giant, I am 6'4 and only came to his knee. His wife the Holy Spirit handles communications for all of us, his son runs the retirement center, some stay in Nirvana to reincarnate back for another go of it, but others are tired and check in to heaven not planning on returning again.

now I have a Blue Dude as my protector, which an incredibly smart friend says is Jesus

as far as I know, in all of history, no one has ever met the trinity, no one has ever delivered their messages to man

I know who I am, whether anyone believes really doesn't matter, but what I am sharing is real.

I delivered God's messages on my birthday as I was asked, he showed me he was God by making the lottery number which was the same as the Key of David solving the riddle of the beast come up the next day on the lottery. My message was to look in the bible at Revelation, the letter written to the Church of Sardis was a Type-o, it was for the Church of Saudis... written for Muslims hundreds of years before the Muslim religion began... I wanted to know it wasn't just a dream, 3 days to the minute after delivering the message. Bam Iran was slammed by a quake killing 38,000... Merry Christmas...

I know ETs, they are good, but don't change timelines like I have done many times without knowing how, unacceptable events were erased and replayed with a better outcome...

I'm not a God, just a dude stumbling through life like all of you, but I am starting to believe, my Spirit might be someone pretty powerful reincarnated back here at this time...

Onyx shared with all of us about a God Gene that can be turned on, maybe when my daughter's best friend was raped and murdered by a sick Jewish monster, it turned on for me.

every life matters, when I get mad, I hate seeing an earthquake hit like it did in Chile, killing 5 people.

sure all of them get swept to heaven, but it doesn't help my feeling of guilt I am somehow the reason.

a 6.6 earthquake hit Mexico, I know that was an attack by those who want to step forward and claim they are God's messenger and are pretending to be king of the world, but God has already chosen me. nothing they can do will stand up to the power of the the big Dude I have met, or the one who is watching over me.

I don't care who their bloodline is, or how much gold they have packed in their safe. They are trying to force prophecy, even if it takes using toys they re-engineered from ET technology.

I am who I am, forgive me...

[Selkie]

Posted by take (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.






.......

Sword taken to that Gordian knot. Thank you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was given a special pen on 9/11 it is a cross, when I hold it long point down, it is a pen, when I grab the short end at the top, it becomes the sword of light. It was twinkling in the grass, I didn't feel like driving after seeing America attacked, so I walked that day. I bent to pick it up and it disappeared, I couldn't find it. It wasn't until a dream it appeared around my neck...

that was the day I wrote my first poem, it just flowed out with no rewrites...

The pen I was given was a gift from the lord, more strength than mass armies, mightier than a sword...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by take (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.

.......

Map and Story of Canaan

"The Conquests of Canaan

Joshua and the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River just south and east of the city of Schechem. Many battles and "conquests" followed their entry into Canaan (also referred to as "The Promised Land", "Israel" or "Palestine), but the first major battle that transpired took place due south of their entry, and is known as the Battle of Jericho. With God's intervention, Joshua spearheaded the destruction of Jericho before moving west to the small city of Ai, which would eventually fall as well. Other conquests at the hands of Joshua and the Israelites took place against the Amorite kings from Jerusalem, as well as other cities such as Lachish, Hebron, Jarmuth, Eglon. Joshua 10 tells of a battle at Gibeon where God answered Joshua's request for assistance to extend the hours of daylight so that the battle could be finished. God also unleashed enormous hail stones from the heavens, an action that killed many Canaanites. Soon thereafter, much of the land of Canaan was secured under Joshua's command..."

[observer]

One can call them "Israelites", if one wishes to perpetuate the FRAUD.

The fact is, they were the ejected Hyksos Pharaohs of Egypt. There never were Hebrew Slaves in the land of Egypt. That's all part of the "cover story" designed to usurp the land of Canaan, and genocide the inhabitants.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qgodwiVtAHo

One can regurgitate this distorted history regarding this Biblical Claim, but the archeology simply doesn't support the story....

[take]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

Posted by take (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Does Israel have a divine Claim to the land of Cannan?

No.

.......

Map and Story of Canaan

"The Conquests of Canaan

Joshua and the Israelites crossed over the Jordan River just south and east of the city of Schechem. Many battles and "conquests" followed their entry into Canaan (also referred to as "The Promised Land", "Israel" or "Palestine), but the first major battle that transpired took place due south of their entry, and is known as the Battle of Jericho. With God's intervention, Joshua spearheaded the destruction of Jericho before moving west to the small city of Ai, which would eventually fall as well. Other conquests at the hands of Joshua and the Israelites took place against the Amorite kings from Jerusalem, as well as other cities such as Lachish, Hebron, Jarmuth, Eglon. Joshua 10 tells of a battle at Gibeon where God answered Joshua's request for assistance to extend the hours of daylight so that the battle could be finished. God also unleashed enormous hail stones from the heavens, an action that killed many Canaanites. Soon thereafter, much of the land of Canaan was secured under Joshua's command..."

I'm well aware of this topic and I don't even feel it's worth discussing.

No offense.

[Rocky_Shorz]

remember, I didn't chose the title or start this thread, but observer has brought important info forward I am interested in digging into, so take a hike and let us continue.

well a more important story to me is Christianity used the Jewish Religion for the old testament, now we learn that isn't the Jewish religion, it is Egypt's. We already knew by DNA Israeli's DNA are Identical to the Semites. Jewish is a religion, not a race.

so now to dig into those texts to find out the story preceding what is in the bible as the old testament.

it really doesn't change anything to me, from the other side of the world, Egypt and Israel are the same lands.

The Persian Empire stretched across this area, and from Persia comes the history of the Sumerians, which were the star travelers.

the original metal scrolls had info predating Egypt, time to do some digging to see how much more they have to offer us.

after dropping Thermo Nukes on Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned Israel will never exist...

they have stolen these lands from the rightful owners to take for themselves by lies, which has affected the whole world including my Nation. This is no secret to any of us in the alternate media.

Ralph just makes it official by explaining why.

Why were the pyramids lined up exactly with Orion's belt, who traveled from that area that taught us what they have,

will they return?

who in Egyptian history, wrote the Prophesy of Elam?

It is important to me, because I am living it...

[observer]

The northern most extent of the Egyptian Empire was at the ancient site of Carchemish (also Karkemish). The ancient ruins of this capital city was at a point where the Euphrates River crosses-over from modern-day Turkey into Syria, thereby making all of modern Syria a part of the Egyptian Empire in great antiquity.

Around 2000 BC the Hyksos invaded the fertile Nile Delta and established 400 years of rule of Lower Egypt as the Hyksos Pharaohs. These Hyksos came from the area of Canaan and Syria, i.e. the ancestors of the modern day Semites that continue to populate the area. At the point in time when these Hyksos moved into the Nile Delta, the land they came from was already a part of the Egyptian Empire.

When the Hyksos Pharaohs were evicted from Lower Egypt, around 1600 BC, it would only be natural to expect them to return to the land where they once had come.

Modern archeologists have confirmed that in the time period we are focusing upon (1600 to 1400 BC), Jerusalem was nothing more than a tiny village, and that the Semite tribes of the area were mostly involved in piling-up rocks.

The story of Hebrew Slaves in Egypt was a construct designed to give these exiled Hyksos Pharaohs a license to genocide the Semite Tribes of Canaan.

This license continues, to this day, to drive the turmoil in this region of the world.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Yesterday I was talking with someone about the 33 bloodlines, about how Turkey is attacking Kurdistan and how #isis was created for the purpose of stealing ancient artifacts to make the history of Kurdistan and the beginning of Jewish religion disappear.

We spoke of 9/11 and everyone involved from Cheney, Bush, Israel and Saudi Arabia were behind these attacks to bring the middle east to the point it is now.

I said I was very disappointed in Islam and the Leaders of Mecca for causing all of these problems, their King knows I was depending on them to bring the main religions together...

Today a friend here on Avalon sent me a link to the interviews Kerry did with a Kurd...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dm65i1eQpCY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ycEx1BNAB7Y

Everything I had spoke of...

now I just ran across the story, of Mecca getting hit by lightning...

without anything here in black and white, we will never know if 1 hour before this strike was when I was speaking of being disappointed with Islam...



When I demanded the Catholic Church make changes, the Pope resigned immediately after, and the Vatican was hit an hour later...



ET's are surrounding us, we are approaching a critical moment, the reason we are all gathered... We have been waiting a few thousand years, how many billions of years have they been waiting?

I was going to bring the 33 bloodline thread back to the surface to continue where it was left for years, time to revisit so much we have discussed before... but it is closed, so I am stepping in here...

this happened on the 14th anniversary of 9/11 7+7 107 Killed, another 7, just a coincidence?

The Catholic Church has been struck, Mecca has been struck, God demands the world religions comes together...

so many faithful with signs they have all been watching for, walking blind...

what will it take to wake up this world, two of the top religions have been struck, at their most holiest of spots...

all that remains is Israel...

3 religions, one God and all these wars because each think theirs is best.

It's time for change.

“His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles.” Psalm 97:4

yesterday, on the 14th anniversary of 9/11, this photo was taken over the twin towers location.



World leaders are meeting this month

the Will of God is Peace



Tomb of the Virgin Mary in Murree Pakistan

I said I was taking off on a cruise ship last week, forecast was clear no rain expected when I mentioned it... Suddenly a huge storm appeared due to slam Avalon when I was in port... dang coincidences...

""Sheikh Rashid: Son of Dubai's ruler dies of a heart attack aged 33..." link



eldest son of a modern day Pharaoh...

from Ben's report

"align with Russia in Syria against ISIS and their Israeli and Gulf Cooperation Council backers, the sources said.

To make sure their message was being heard, the 33-year old Sheik Rashid of Dubai, one of the top ISIS supporters, was killed by heart attack, according to US intelligence sources."

before his 3 days of mourning was over, the storm started dissipating over Ensenada, the following day it dissolved completely, not one drop hit the ship...

" Saudi Arabia's safety record for religious pilgrimages was under scrutiny on Thursday after 717 people died in the worst disaster to strike the annual hajj pilgrimage in Mecca in 25 years.

At least 863 others were injured in the crush at Mina, a few miles east of Mecca, caused by two large groups of pilgrims arriving together at a crossroads on their way to performing the "stoning the devil" ritual at Jamarat, Saudi civil defence said... link

now those of you following along watched this all unfold...

the 4th blood moon is coming in 4 days...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I shared this almost a year ago...

The King of Dubai and his son went against the promise of Muhammad...



those who know God, fear him for a reason...



"Before jihadists overran this mountain town in 2013, Maaloula was one of the oldest Christian communities in Syria, where Western Aramaic—the language of Jesus Christ—is still spoken. It was also a place of profound peace, where Sunni and Shiite Muslim residents, along with their Christian neighbors, forged a pact early in the war to avoid the sectarian conflict ripping their country apart. “We decided that even if the mountains around us were exploding with fighting, we would not go to war,” Mahmoud Diab, a Sunni imam, told Newsweek in 2012. “It’s a sectarian war, but the fact is, there is no war here in Maaloula. In this town, we are not defined by religion. We all know each other. Everyone is a Christian, and everyone is Muslim.”..." link

" ISIS’s Mission: Burn Their Churches And Kill Their Pastors
The place where God first made man is the place where evil men are attempting to use the name of God to destroy mankind..." link

To date, more than 170,000 people (mostly Christians) were killed in Iraq by ISIS. Why is nobody talking about this genocide? link

The fist of God is ready to drop, I begged him to only strike the leaders who created these atrocities...

maybe he listened when he grabbed the son of Dubai's King and took the life from him...

I am only the messenger, will he take the first born of all those involved?

"Egypt's leader says country in 'ferocious war'"

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Egypt's President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi said in an interview that the Mideast region needs to cooperate to defeat a worsening terrorist threat that has led to a "ferocious war" in Egypt and created the danger of some countries "sliding into failure."

In a wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press Saturday night, el-Sissi also said that Syria should not be divided after its civil war, that the Egyptian military needs to be "augmented" to defeat terrorists fighting in the Sinai and Western Desert, and that efforts should be renewed to solve the Palestinian issue and expand Egypt's nearly 40-year-peace with Israel to include more Arab countries.

Resolving the Palestinian question, he said, could "change the face of the region and ... bring about enormous improvement to the situation. ... I'm optimistic by nature and I say that there is a great opportunity."

The 60-year-old former military chief, who ran for president and assumed office in 2014 after the army ousted his predecessor Mohammed Morsi the year before, spoke with AP at a New York hotel on Saturday night after he addressed a U.N. summit that adopted new development goals for the next 15 years. He will also attend the annual ministerial meeting of the General Assembly at U.N. headquarters that begins Monday.

Speaking just days after pardoning and releasing two jailed Al-Jazeera English journalists in Cairo, el-Sissi said he is open to clemency to other journalists who have been tried and convicted in absentia. But he said he would only act within his powers as president and would also respect the prerogatives of Egypt's judiciary.

"Rest assured that we are always keen on sorting out issues and problems, especially those that relate to journalists and to the media personnel," he added.

El-Sissi, speaking through a translator, said that regional security is in "its most vulnerable state."

"Let it suffice to look at the map and find countries that are suffering from failure. There is an increase in the extremist groups. There is the problem of the refugees that are flowing into Europe. With all that in mind, we can sense how difficult and how complicated" the challenge is, he said.

"I don't want to say we are late in doing what we should have done, but (defeating the threat will require) a lot of effort, and not only a lot of effort but as a matter of fact it entails a good amount of understanding and cooperation from every country ... to restore the countries that are now sliding into this vicious cycle of failure."

In that vein, the Egyptian leader cited what he called an "improving" relationship with the United States. Ties are "strategic and stable," he said.

It has been a tumultuous period in Egypt. Longtime leader Hosni Mubarak was ousted in 2011 in the Arab Spring revolt that eventually led to the installation of the Muslim Brotherhood's Morsi as Egypt's first popularly elected president; he then was tuned out by the military amid another popular uprising.

"The last two years were a real test of the endurance and strength" of the ties with the U.S., el-Sissi said.

Since then, Egypt has been fighting an insurgency by militants based in the Sinai who have pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group, and militants have carried out bombings and shootings against policemen and troops in Cairo and other cities.

Security forces have cracked down hard on Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists. Hundreds of Islamists have been killed and thousands arrested, and Morsi and other Brotherhood leaders have had death sentences issued against them in multiple trials. The trials and the crackdown have brought heavy criticism from human rights groups. El-Sissi's government contends the Brotherhood is complicit in violence, a claim the group denies, saying authorities want to crush them as a political opposition.

Asserted el-Sissi: "The problem with the Muslim Brotherhood is not a problem between the government of Egypt and these people. The real problem is between the Egyptian people and the Muslim Brotherhood." He said the Brotherhood has given "a very bad impression" and Egyptians "are not able to forgive and forget."

The Egyptian military, he said, "has always been a factor for stability" and should be strengthened because it faces "a ferocious war against terrorism and extremism ... Increasing the military capability of the Egyptian military means that it can strike a strategic balance" for the region.

Referring to the civil war that has shattered Syria, the president said "we are very keen that Syria remains as a nation and as a state and does not divide into smaller states."

He warned that the collapse of Syria would mean that all its weapons and equipment would fall into the hands "of the terrorists." If that happens, he said, the danger will not only hurt Syria but spill over to its neighbors and "will pose a serious threat to the rest of the region, and this is what we fear."

Asked how extremists could be neutralized, he offered no immediate solution: "This is exactly the dilemma we are talking about."" link