Strongest Hurricane Ever recorded! (Patricia, 23 Oct 2015, Mexico)

[Carmody]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Patricia formed suddenly on Tuesday as a tropical storm and quickly strengthened to a hurricane. Within 30 hours it had grown to a record-beating category five storm, catching many off guard with its rapid growth.

It usually takes much longer for such a storm to form, the techniques and technologies must be getting better.

Looking at the videos, if I was there, I would have spent some time in the face of the storm. I would not be in a shelter. Once in a lifetime opportunity, a life based on the memory of the peaks and valleys, as moments of inflection, shaping, and recall. Perspective comes from such experience(s).

[jake gittes]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
Nothing to do with you lacking skills, Paul.
You just couldn't have factored in the Avalonian weather modification team going to work.

♡

Well, someone has to have been doing something: the biggest ever with zero casualties? The mountain has given birth to a mouse, as we say.

Not sure if it's what you meant, but the figurative expression is true literally; tall mountains obliterate hurricanes quickly. The high mountains in Cuba and the D.R. routinely knock down Atlantic basin hurricanes. By contrast, when Hurricane Wilma crossed Florida from the Gulf Coast to the Atlantic Coast in 2005, the damage was actually worse on the Atlantic side because the storm continued to strengthen as it passed over the storm-feeding hot water of the Everglades and there are no mountains in Florida to stop storms.

I was just amazed that the headlines on Weather Channel stated Hurricane Patricia strongest on planet Earth. I guess the WC is becoming more innovative with their news. You never hear planet Earth. Anyway, I am convinced this is one more act of sabotage and weather control.

I'm not sure innovative would be how I describe TWC since being acquired by NBC. They may have added bells and whistles, but they subtracted a lot of science, which was probably the mission anyway: control the information. Kinda like:

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/g...vice-and-noaa/

The power structure is beginning to panic as the public wakes up to the criminal climate engineering insanity. The growing police state is completely out of control and becoming unimaginably blatant with their actions. In recent weeks Washington has placed "gag orders" on the following agency employees, "The National Weather Service", the "National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration", and the "US Department of Commerce". This is a massive red flag that should trigger alarm bells everywhere.

Bill Hopkins, the executive vice president for the National Weather Service employees organization (NWSEO) said this:

“As a taxpayer, I find it highly disturbing that a government agency continues to push gag orders to hide how they operate. This is the work of the American government, owned by the American public, and should be open to the American public.”

Jeff Ruch, the executive director "PEER" (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) said this about the "gag orders".

“The National Weather Service is about the last place where national security-style secrecy rules need to be enforced,” Ruch noted that the broad scope of the gag orders put much of what goes on inside the agency under wraps. “Everyone is free to talk about the weather except for the people working inside the National Weather Service. Go figure.”

Some time ago I personally spoke to an NOAA scientist that said "we all know it is going on (climate engineering) but we are afraid to speak out, we have no first amendment protection". The new "gag order" is a further muzzling of the NWS and NOAA. It is likely there are many in the National Weather Service and NOAA that have had enough of lying about what is really going on in our skies.

As for HAARP-type manipulation of Patricia, I wouldn't be surprised. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, El Nino years are known for much warmer Pacific waters, a prime ingredient for tropical storms. But intensity of storms tends to fluctuate, they don't naturally continue to intensify exponentially, especially when they get really strong. There's some warbling that occurs, leading to weakening. Powerful storms normally - naturally - lose a little steam as they make landfall.

I didn't follow this one, but I've followed storms for roughly 20 years due to employment ramifications, but just the sound of Pat's intensification stuck in the "on" position caught my attention. It reminded me of Katrina in '05. The Gulf waters were/are very warm, so the initial intensification wasn't a surprise. The persistent strengthening was, however. I remember thinking even then, which was before I jumped completely down the rabbit hole, that it seemed like unnatural strengthening -- the thing never warbled. It was like its route was being zapped with a laser to heat the water immediately in its path to continue strengthening, kind of like priming the path of the stone in Olympic curling. The goal may not be utter destruction or commandeering prime real estate (like in New Orleans), but propagating the whole ridiculous "global warming" meme (carbon tax, cough-cough!).

[Hervé]

Anyone remembering those:

Posted by Hervé (here)
Here are two pictures from the OP first link:

[Patrikas]

From Jim Stones website who says he lives within 150 miles of Patricias landfall:

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

Link to full article :

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamer...tseethis2.html

[Operator]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Operator (here)
But at the time now when it passes it looks impressive for its size but there isn't a clear formed eye and it's not turning that clearly either

Some of the higher resolution images I saw earlier today showed a quite clearly formed eye, of unusually small diameter. I suspect that this image lacks sufficient resolution to show that.

Here's a permanent copy of just one frame of the image you linked to, on my server:

Thanks Paul for that freeze-frame pic that keeps at least part of it stored. I know there are higher resolution images but I
normally use this tool because you have some control over where to look (latitude and longitude), zoom factor etc. via de url.

Additionally it moves because of the multiple frames you get a better idea of the dynamics of a storm. That's why
I noticed that this storm deviates from what I normally see ...

Even in case of Cat1 or Cat2 hurricanes you can very clearly see the eye of the hurricane and see it spinning counter clockwise
(I normally look at the Atlantic ones) with 'arms' spiraling out sucking all kind of bad weather over hundreds of miles toward
the eye. Although hurricanes are seldom near the south of the Caribbean it's the spiraling arms that can cause bad weather in
my neck of the woods.

Compared to images of previous less significant storms Patricia is hardly spinning at all and should have had a much better defined
eye ... just my 2 cents ...

[Hervé]

Weird dot connections,, from an article linked by Limor:

Obama mocks skeptics of climate change as ‘flat-Earth society’

By Justin Sink June 25, 2013, 06:40 pm


President Obama angrily blasted climate change skeptics during his energy policy speech Tuesday at Georgetown University, saying he lacked "patience for anyone who denies that this problem is real."

"We don't have time for a meeting of the flat-Earth society," Obama said. "Sticking your head in the sand might make you feel safer, but it's not going to protect you from the coming storm."

[...]

The president noted that the 12 warmest years in recorded history have all come within the last 15 years, and said that rising temperatures were increasing the severity and impact of storms.

[...]

“In a world that's warmer than it used to be, all weather events are affected by the warming planet,” Obama said.

See?

That's the puppeteer orchestration of events: "See all these weird weather phenomena? That's because climate change and a warming planet are true! Now pay up your carbon taxes!"

No wonder NOAA got gagged!

[Citizen No2]

Anyone else get the impression this was all a bit of a non-event?

Dare I say.......... Hoax?


Regards.

[TargeT]

Posted by Carmody (here)

The point is that the legalization of marijuana in Mexico would likely (eventually) end their current internal drug war woes, almost entirely. Same for Canada legalizing marijuana (New prime Minister's promise), regarding the connected issues outlined below.

The US is set up as a police state with corporate black ops running rampant THROUGH the mechanism of the drug wars--- as cover, finance, and societal control. (original modern thrust origin)

if that is the motivation "too little too late" comes to mind....... It almost seems too sloppy and not through enough.

Posted by Carmody (here)
It's not paranoid fantasy to see this storm's potential origins (specifically it's sudden shift and change) through those eyes, when all the data I speak of (to base speculation upon) is fully possible to prove.

Absolutely worth exploring, however I do not think this is the case here... or if it is it's a massive "shot over the bow" and we will see conciliatory follow on actions (policy changes, etc..) which I also doubt will happen.



Might just mother earth doing what she does... "worst hurricane ever" is a huge misnomer (mostly because the word "ever" was used).

Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
Anyone else get the impression this was all a bit of a non-event?

Dare I say.......... Hoax?


Regards.

or a test of the populaces response... if weather fear won't do it, look elsewhere! (clearly terrorism has lost it's "pull", is this a scramble to find the "hot button" for steering society? or just a natural event.... )

[Operator]

Posted by TargeT (here)
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or a test of the populaces response... if weather fear won't do it, look elsewhere! (clearly terrorism has lost it's "pull", is this a scramble to find the "hot button" for steering society? or just a natural event.... )

Yeah, spot on ... I would bet on this possibility as very likely

[jake gittes]

Posted by Patrikas (here)
From Jim Stones website who says he lives within 150 miles of Patricias landfall:

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

Link to full article :

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamer...tseethis2.html

Wow, excellent find, Patrikas. I read JS regularly and hadn't checked his site yet today. The official report makes absolutely no sense. A record-breaking, churning CAT 5 suddenly falls apart before landfall?? BWAHAHAHA! What a CROCK. That does NOT happen. Real hurricanes wind down after interaction with land mass. The more rugged the land mass, the quicker the wind-down. But NO damage from a CAT 5? NOT POSSIBLE. NO deaths? Highly unlikely. I've studied hurricanes and their aftermath for 20 years and this report is antithetical to two decades of data.

[Kristin]

Makes me wonder if this was not some sort of test run of tech. Let's see how fast we can conjure up a hurricane and then let's see how fast we can make it go away. If they are going for precision, that would be the way to do it and a perfect place as well. Having been a Katrina survivor myself, I am completely amazed that there are not pics of major coastal damage. That was a tight eye! The forest would be brown and decimated right up to the foothills. Banana trees every where, palm trees sticking horizontally through houses etc.

Now if this was a fake, why do a fake? Well, if you wanted to move a large amount of people quickly into FEMA camps, that would be one way to do it. Hmmm. It's all very interesting. I find the background with Carmody's points equally as valid. Nothing would surprise me these days.

Kudos to the healers who put forth positive outcome intentions. Regardless of this storms origins, validity, and reason. Good on all of you!!!

(Oh, and let's not forget to look for dustification of some major building!)

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Eric J (Viking)]

I have some friends on holiday in the supposed affected areas ... interesting to see what impact the storm really had...they should be back 2 weeks time..keep you posted.

Viking

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by viking (here)
I have some friends on holiday in the supposed affected areas ... interesting to see what impact the storm really had...they should be back 2 weeks time..keep you posted.

Viking

Yes - that could be quite interesting - let us know as soon as you can - thanks!

[ThePythonicCow]

Jim Stone does have a reputation, of which he's probably proud, of seeing hoax's in more places than most of us. But ... he's often closer to right than most of us, too. In this case, he was living only 150 miles from where the eye of the storm supposedly made landfall, so he's closer to the scene of whatever happened than most of us.

I'm going to repost here some more of Jim Stone's article on Hurricane Patricia

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IT IS OFFICIAL: HURRICANE PATRICIA NEVER EXISTED AND IS A U.S. GOVERNMENT SPONSORED GLOBAL WARMING HOAX

"Eye wall" which only exists in computer models went directly over Puerto Vallarta, yet there were no significant winds and there was no damage or deaths, only heavy rain!

This hoax hurricane arrived two days after the U.S. federal government threatened all NOAA and other weather agencies that if they went against the "official word" they would be jailed for breaking a gag order

MEXICAN NEWS GAVE THE FINAL REPORT ON THE HURRICANE: NO NEWS

I am calling it as it is: The so-called cat 5 world record hurricane was a tropical storm that turned into a tropical depression 100 miles off the Mexican coast, and it caused zero damage on arrival. Though the Mexican news is still calling it a cat 5, there is a surprised tone to it all, because there was no damage anywhere and no deaths. This was a fake hurricane that will hit the books as real, to provide fodder for the climate change scam.

UPDATE: All the pictures are computer generated models. The Mexican press aired footage of the real deal, and it totally dissipated 50 - 100 miles off the coast with no distinguishable eye, and hit the coast as only clouds. The "hurricane" supposedly made landfall closest to Puerto Vallarta, between the cities of Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta. It supposedly took a track that should have destroyed both cities and totally obliterated the Mexican coast between those two cities. The American scam press is saying that it hit a "remote area of Mexico's coastline" to explain no damage. What they are not saying is that it is only 100 miles from Manzanillo to Puerto Vallarta. No damage in either city means there was no hurricane AT ALL. And there are several significant towns with populations over 20,000 between Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo. There is no such thing as a "remote stretch of Mexican coastline", it is 100 percent populated the entire way.

No deaths and no property damage ANYWHERE are being reported. All the Mexican press is saying is that there is "no news" and the hurricane is officially gone. The rain has already stopped in Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo. This "category 5" was at best a tropical depression.

I sort of figured something was amiss last night when not a single whisper of wind happened, even though I was supposed to be in the damage path. From the reports, I figured the winds would be 100 mph here. NOT A WHISPER OF WIND HAPPENED AT ALL. It was a calm night.

Here is the news from Puerto Vallarta:

"The Sokols, a family of five from suburban Detroit, were supposed to fly out of Puerto Vallarta on Friday but ended up for hours in a shelter at a university after their flight was canceled. By night they were back where they began: at their hotel, and no worse for wear. "It's amazing it went from the worst in history to just some heavy rain," Susanna Sokol said.

My response: No, it is not surprising, with a gag order on U.S. climate scientists threatening prison if they speak up and say something other than the official word, a huge carbon tax, and a global warming/climate scam to uphold (which a world record hurricane that is off the charts would support), I don't find it surprising AT ALL that all it ended up being was tropical rain.

"CAT 5 PLUS WORLD DOOM HURRICANE PATRICIA WAS JUST A TROPICAL DEPRESSION, NOTHING SIGNIFICANT HAPPENED.
UPDATE: NO HURRICANE, ONLY A TROPICAL DEPRESSION, HIT MEXICO

And low and behold, two days before this hurricane, the U.S. federal government placed a gag order on NOAA weather officials and others in the U.S., saying they would face jail time if they spoke up against the "official" word given by the government. Why would they do that? Because they needed a huge storm on the records to support the climate change lie and they did not want people calling their bluff, THAT'S WHY.

Ok, a little math here:

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

One strange hurricane

I am holding off on calling it a hoax until I get more info, but this is what happened where I am: NOTHING.

Ok, there was a quarter inch of rain last night. But the biggest thing I noticed this morning was blasting music that was way too loud coming from somewhere. There was a super mild rain. There was never any wind AT ALL. Nothing happened, and I am only 150 miles from where this thing made landfall, and it was supposed to be headed (sort of) in my direction. If this thing was even a normal category 1, there should have been at least 30 - 40 mph winds, possibly 100 mph winds and there was NOTHING. So I am going to say what people should see in the news, or this thing is FAKE.

...

And why would they hoax it? To get their "world record storm" for the global warming scam, that is why. Come on now, THE FREAKING LIGHTS ARE ON AND THERE IS A HUGE PARTY SOMEWHERE, not a whisper of wind, NOTHING AT ALL going on here, and even though I was not in the direct path, I was at least in the strong weather path and nothing at all is simply not possible.

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?
So far I am only going off of what happened where I am, but it was so starkly against what was stated to be happening that I am very suspicious.

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[ThePythonicCow]

Someday, I'm going to learn ... if it's in the "news", it's a lie. And if it's the truth, it's not in the news. Period. Full stop.

... and if a wee bit of truth does escape to the "news", it will be buried in fourteen false variants, and the truth teller discredited, drowned out, or destroyed.

I went from eating a food diet that could easily be found at any local 24 hour convenience store, next to the gas pumps, to knowing that every, single, morsel, even the water, in those stores is more or less toxic.

The same must happen for news. If it's on the main stream news, it must be toxic.

[Raven]

these pictures from a little town - La Manzanilla - 17 miles south of where Patricia hit land - it is from a facebook site so not sure how it will post here? can also see at VisitLaManzanilla.com
https://www.facebook.com/VisitLaManz...type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

[Innocent Warrior]

That's pretty interesting about what Jim Stone wrote, if it's true he has a pretty solid argument.

Cyclone Marcia (Feb 2015) made landfall at a category five (highest category), roughly 750 kms up the coast from where I live, it had gusts of up to 250 kms per hour. We were in the direct path of Marcia, it was forecasted to be at a category one, by the time it hit us, but was a tropical low by the time it did. We were mostly concerned about the flooding here. Thankfully the flooding was only minor. Anyway, point is, you could certainly see the effects of the cyclone, even from all the way down here. This is what my city looked like, as it made landfall up the coast;

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Raven (here)
it is from a facebook site so not sure how it will post here?

They posted fine for me ... thanks!

Here's is what the damage from a "smaller" Cat 4 Hurricane looks like -- except for one amazing house, just a barren field of debris:

Photo Credits

[RunningDeer]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.

Silly ones, here’s your PayPal button?

[jake gittes]

I see some storm surge damage but very little wind damage. CAT 5 - no way.

In the shot of Casa De Regalos with the bent-over sign (which is a top-heavy wind catcher), if this had really been CAT 5, those hanging fabric signs would have been torn to shreds and those faux clay tile roof sheets on the upper level roof would have ALL blown off, not just a few sheets. How is the red towel/wall hanging even still there? The thatch roof on top of the purple building would be long gone.

There is very little roof debris in the streets, just a few clay roof tiles. I see ONE piece of roof tin. It's mostly just palm fronds and storm surge debris. When Wilma hit S.Fla in '05, there was extensive roof tile damage - partly because of faulty construction, but it was much more prevalent and this storm was allegedly comparable to that.

In the interior shots of the room with the barred windows and debris on the floor, the damage is from storm surge flood, stuff moved around by water. Judging by the window, it's not far from the beach. Had there really been 165-mph winds, that stuff on the wall would have been blown off.

MOst of the damage I see appears to be from storm surge and the debris it moved around -- much of it likely beach huts and gazebo-type structures from the beach -- that banged into gates, knocking them open. Wind damage is minimal. 165-mph winds would have blown more coconuts out of the trees! The little plants in the big pots aren't even bent!