Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[Valley]

The Heart always knows which way it goes.
The mind runs in circles until it finds Peace,
Right back where it started from... Stillness.
From Stillness, all things are made clear.

[Innocent Warrior]

“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing
and rightdoing there is a field.
I'll meet you there.

When the soul lies down in that grass
the world is too full to talk about.”
~ Rumi

[greybeard]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Non Duality - Awakenings (loaded 16 January 2016)

Russel Williams - 'Looking Through The Horse's Eyes' - Interview by Iain McNay.

Russel was born in 1921 in a very poor family.
He was orphaned at 11 and came close to death many times. In the second world war he took part in the Dunkirk evacuation and lived through the Blitz. He was never afraid.
He joined a circus after the war and worked with the animals. It was here that he suddenly became aware that, 'I am the horses, dogs, the lion, the trees - everything is true nature.'
He hasn't had any unwanted thoughts since he was 29 years old. 'The only way to attain experience is to come to complete emptiness; that is to come to the end of the thought mind.
But you will find that the emptiness was never empty because it is a potential for all that may come to be. We enter into an area of extremely fine aspects of consciousness that dissolves into itself and loses duality.
And then there is only 'that.' Everything leads back to this emptiness. No form of understanding can connect you to this. It has to be seen within itself.
The peace that passes all understanding that is emptiness.
It is completely fulfilling in itself.
You can just BE instead of think.

'Russel has a book available written with Steve Taylor, 'Not I, Not Other Than I: The Life and Teachings of Russel Williams'.

http://conscious.tv/nonduality.html?...=4700956433001

I have listened all the way through and if time is limited I would start at the 30 minute mark.
Russel is 95 and still going strong, with humour.

A very clear pointing towards enlightenment---a spontaneous awakening.

At the end he points out that "Yes things are happening but do you have to make them "mine" ?
Mooji says similar---"Nothing is happening to you"
He also uses the expression uninvolved--you are aware and not lacking in compassion--just not personally intricate in the event

Basically as you are the One Eternal Self--you are changeless.

The interview has subtitles as the voice of Russel is a bit hard to make out at times.
However this is well worth listening to.

With love
Chris

Ps I looked up the definition of the word I used intricate to see if it fitted.

"entangled or involved:" think it does.

We get entangled all to often.--smiling.

Ch

[betoobig]

Thank you Rachel, spot on!
Much love sister
Juan

[Clear Light]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Mooji says similar---"Nothing is happening to you"
He also uses the expression uninvolved--you are aware and not lacking in compassion--just not personally intricate in the event

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Ps I looked up the definition of the word I used intricate to see if it fitted.

"entangled or involved" think it does.

We get entangled all too often -- smiling

Ch

Oh, yeah it does seem like it doesn't it ? Kind of like thoughts and concepts becoming "entangled" probably because we each have our own "definition" and "framework" for them ...

Context, it's all about the Context eh ? LOL

[Enola]

http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/...by-Nirmala.pdf

I don't know if this is well-known, but one of the best I've read. The Eastern take on things explained very well.

[Clear Light]

Or can 'I' suggest this (also from an "Eastern" perspective) : Tulku Urgyen on Garab Dorje's Three Statements.pdf

1. "Recognize your own nature"
2. "Decide on one point"
3. "Gain confidence in liberation"

Four pages from a Dzogchen P.O.V

[truthseekerdan]

Just sharing some info on this wonderful thread. Enjoy!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=J8gENa7s8QY

For the whole presentation click on the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3deWDpaHB0I

Namaste

[greybeard]

Always good to see you Dan.
Much love
Chris

[Wind]

[Enola]

"21) My mother taught that grief and selfish love, and hopes and fears are but reflexes from the lower self;
22) That what we sense are but small waves upon the rolling billows of a life.
23) These all will pass away; they are unreal.
24) Tears flow from hearts of flesh; the spirit never weeps; and I am longing for the day when I will walk in light, where tears are wiped away.
25) My mother taught that all emotions are the sprays that rise from human loves, and hopes, and fears; that perfect bliss cannot be ours till we have conquered these."

[Clear Light]

Faith

In spite of knowing,
Yet still believing.
Though no god above,
Yet god within.



There is no god in the sense of a cosmic father or mother
who will provide all things to their children. Nor is there
some heavenly bureaucracy to petition. These models are
not descriptions of a divine order, but are projections from
archetypal templates. If we believe in the divine as cosmic
family we relegate ourselves to perpetual adolescence. If
we regard the divine as supreme government, we are forever
victims of unfathomable officialdom.


Yet it does not work for us to totally abandon faith. It does
not follow that we can forego all belief in higher beings.
We need faith, not because there are beings who will punish
us or reward us, but because gods are wonderful ways of
describing things that happen to us. They embody the highest
aspects of human aspiration. Gods on the altars are essential
metaphors for the human spiritual experience.


Faith shouldn't be shaken because bad things happen to us or
because our loved ones are killed. Good and bad fortune are
not in the hands of gods, so it is useless to blame them.
Neither does faith need to be confirmed by some objective
occurrence. Faith is self-affirming. If we maintain faith, then
we have its reward. If we become better people, then our faith
has results. It is we who create faith, and it is through our
efforts that faith is validated.

Deng Ming-Dao

[Meggings]

Really lovely, seems to massage the energy bodies.
This is "AMAZING GRACE" in overtone singing.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nPu9XMMY1Y8

And with the same gentleman, along with a lady, overtones for "chakra balancing". As said, feels like energy body massage.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wz7hk8LftJs

[Clear Light]

Oh ! That certain feeling sensation when centered in the Heart-space is unlike anything one can strive for ... it is as if 'I' must release, let go, breathe, smile and laugh ... Who (or what) is this 'I' which forever seeks distraction from 'without' anyway eh ?

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Ah, and what is revealed / discovered is one's real condition as simply like an "aware knowing" devoid of any "self" ... Words can point and describe yet are not it !

Thus you must turn your attention slightly "inwards" eh ?

[DeDukshyn]

The sun came and introduced itself to me yesterday evening. I have a very interesting experience to share, that I almost already forgot about already this morning. I have to run now, but this is my reminder to myself to come and finish the story

[betoobig]

DeDukshyn i can't wait.... I'll remaind you.... Imagination going wild....
Much love

[DeDukshyn]

I wasn't sure exactly which thread this story should go into, but I think this thread will allow a greater degree perhaps of understanding, as one could easily classify this experience as "spiritual".

In some pondering all this experience "after-the-fact" I was reminded of some biblical texts, explaining certain writers experiences / prophecies or whatever.



The sun came to me yesterday evening, and I suppose formally introduced Himself? It was one of, if not, “the” most intense thing I have ever experienced. So I am sitting at my computer desk, with the headphones on, and I think I was listening to some music. Then I suppose I just sort of went into a trance-like state, I’m sure I was still conscious, yet my experience that normally comes through my 5 senses was replaced by an ethereal/spiritual experience. I have had similar types of experiences in the past, where I seem to “phase” out of this reality for a moment into another, so that part isn’t the oddest part. The odd part was “meeting” the sun.


Suddenly I am in the full presence of the sun and nothing else can possibly occupy any of my senses or attention – full sun. The energy coming from Him was pretty much too intense for me to bear, it wasn’t heat – there was no heat at all, actually, it was pure Love, I suppose. Not the emotion love but the energy Love. It took all my strength to merely and almost literally hold my ethereal self together, and to attempt to contain the emotions that the “Love” pouring over me was drawing out of me with unabated intensity, as well as to just try to, what I felt like, "survive" this encounter. I never felt in danger, I'm just trying to describe the intensity of the situation.


Have you ever had one of those emotional rushes that come over you, maybe triggered by a song or a smell or memory, and it just makes you cry in some sort of elation (no sadness at all), and leaves you a little overwhelmed? If you have had that happen, this felt a little bit like that except billions of times stronger. The energy hitting me was like standing under a giant waterfall, except with the water traveling as pure energetic Love horizontally towards you. The energy sort of made a sound, or rather blocked out all possibility of hearing any other sound with its intensity – basically all my senses could sense was this energy and Love and it drowned out every other possible sensory input – everything. Every sense. I just can’t even begin to explain the power of it. It was so humbling. I can't even describe how humbling.


After a few moments I managed to compose myself just enough to form an actual thought, and I sort of thought out, “This must be God!” in a state of stuporous awe. And then in a communication of sorts, I was “told” or rather “given the impression” that while I was experiencing “God”, the sun is merely a portal through which “God” occurs with any intensity.


Shortly after this information transfer, I came out of my “trance” and was back sitting at the computer desk with my headphones on. I immediately noticed that I was soaking wet everywhere. Without my noticing, tears had been pretty much involuntarily squirting from my face the entire time I was in my “trance”; this obviously was my body’s reaction to the extremely intense emotional effect the experience had on me. I was just glad I didn’t pee myself … !


Wiping away the excessive tears, I jumped up and began pacing the kitchen floor, reflecting on and trying to make some sense of what just happened, then it happened again! This time though, I could sense that the sun was just “nudging” me this time around, much less intense (or at least He was trying hard), and the impression I received was that the sun was consciously approaching me again with less intensity as almost, but not quite an apology for the excessive intensity in the prior experience; ... more like a “Thank you”. I got the impression that the intensity of the first experience was “required” or purposeful for some reason.


I then awoke from this somewhat lighter trance, still standing in the kitchen. My mind blown.

It was very intimate, I felt as though the sun knew me personally and was just stopping by to say "Hi" or something -- it was a very friendly interaction - not mechanical or happenstance, it was very conscious.


Here’s something very interesting to add … Since I had missed the awesome New Year’s aurora, I put a link to a government “space weather” alerts page on my desktop and have been checking it pretty much daily ever since. Every day … one bar out of five on the activity meter. I decided to check it after my experience and it was at 4 out of 5 bars. And it went down to three shortly after and then back to one by this morning. My experience chronologically lines up perfect with a very short but somewhat intense burst of energy the earth received from the sun.

[Meggings]

What a wonderful experience you have shared with us, my friend! This is quite marvelous.

Our sun is the doorway that energies from "far" away come through, something like a step-down transformer. I've been to the sun about 12 years ago, but found one gets looked at askance when such things are spoken of. Isn't it grand that there is a place to put such experiences that is relatively safe.

As more have such experiences, more will realize their multidimensional nature. I am so pleased to have read of your encounter.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Meggings (here)
What a wonderful experience you have shared with us, my friend! This is quite marvelous.

Our sun is the doorway that energies from "far" away come through, something like a step-down transformer. I've been to the sun about 12 years ago, but found one gets looked at askance when such things are spoken of. Isn't it grand that there is a place to put such experiences that is relatively safe.

As more have such experiences, more will realize their multidimensional nature. I am so pleased to have read of your encounter.

Yes indeed - on all points. I think I have a reasonable grasp of the mechanics of Creation; for me, it is one thing to understand the logic behind the fact that stars and "black holes" move energy between octaves of creation, completely another to experience this process close up!

I am no stranger to odd experiences, I have even been able to experience two time-frames at once from the same location - experiencing it at both points in time, separated by several years. But this visit with the Sun ... was just grand. I wouldn't mind it happening again. Hopefully next time I can compose myself better and have some sort of "conversation"

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
The sun came and introduced itself to me yesterday evening. I have a very interesting experience to share, that I almost already forgot about already this morning. I have to run now, but this is my reminder to myself to come and finish the story

You have no idea how grateful I am that you shared this experience. Higher Conciousness is upon all that are ready to receive it and to experience IT. Now please allow me to share mine...

Below is a short summary mostly due to the limitations of words and language, about one of my meditation experiences. Hope you'll enjoy!

I found myself as an observer floating in this field of creative imagination of what some may call the ocean of consciousness, god, the infinite, akasha, etc. - I was aware of many different light forms (shapes), symbols and patterns that were swirling, appearing and dissapearing surrounding me 360 degrees. Some of the forms were familiar to the logical mind (the ego). They appeared to be made from what I would like to compare it to, liquid light or liquid gold-fire (also similar to what we call plasma).

I felt totally relaxed at peace, and a unconditional loving sensation of warmth going to what I perceived to be my body, but could have actually being this light field itself. I understood or better yet known, that as an observer I was in charge or had the power to change my surrounding in this field just by thinking. Time and what we call space did not have the same meaning, because I felt like believe it or not, that I am the space myself. At moments I was also aware of the sound of slow running water or some sort of a pleasant humming, although I don't recall any other sounds.

As I was enjoying my experience, a sudden thought about the Sun came into my awareness. Soon after, I noticed that "my heart" was expanding and felt a slight sensation of discomfort. Suddenly what I perceived to be my heart exploded or bursted with a powerful white light, and I felt like my mind was sucked into the heart-light melting in a flash. Momentarily I felt like becoming the Sun, or being in the Sun. I experienced for what seems to be like a glimpse, and what I can describe with words, the joy and love of creative imagination. Then soon after in another flash I was expelled from that powerful sunlight, and found myself being aware of the light-forms field again. While back in the field I realized or understood why ancient civilizations "supposedly" worshipped or revered the Sun. I also understood the deeper meaning of the phrase "We are made of stardust", as well as what Christ meant by saying that "We are gods"...

Much Love and Wisdom to ALL