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    Quote Posted by NoTingles (here)
    [I]......
    Rapidly rising prices, even if matched by wage increases, will make this exploitation much worse. It’s no wonder that the Chinese public is angry about inflation, and that China’s leaders want to stop it.

    China's currency scheme is unraveling and China's government is trying to manage the internal pressures. But for who? Interests in China that have become wealthy use their increased wealth and power to influence policy to keep the good stuff flowing their way by keeping restrictions on imports......
    Vivid and substantial points! I appreciate it. Thank you

    As you had presented: Chinese public want it, "China’s leaders" want it (as least they say so), but those "Interests in China" doesn't want it!---this route back a hard-core question: who the hell is really in charge of China? who is the Chairman on the board of China Inc.? It's a question many Chinese(include me) are still searching for an answer. But one thing for sure, it's not the president of People's Republic of China, it's not the Prime Minister

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    Chinese National TV Reports President Obama to Disclose Extraterrestrial Contact!
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    Submitted by Alfred Lambremo... on Fri, 01/21/2011 - 19:15

    by Alfred Lambremont Webre



    Chinese National Television Xinhua news is now reporting an impending extraterrestrial disclosure by the Obama administration.

    The unprecedented national China TV news bulletin that U.S. President Barack Obama may be preparing to disclose U.S. relations with specific extraterrestrial races was broadcast on the official channel Xinhua on January 4, 2011 on the eve of China President Hu Jintao's state visit to the United States.

    President Hu is presently visiting a Chinese language facility in Chicago, IL as of this writing on January 21, 2011.

    View China National TV reporting impending ET disclosure by Obama administration

    Examiner.com readers can view the China TV news broadcast above in this article on by clicking in the URL below:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=TMP_q...ayer_embedded#!

    ET Disclosure Race?

    The Xinhua China TV broadcast on the official news channel stating that President Barack Obama may be preparing an official U.S. disclosure of the extraterrestrial presence by one perspective may be fueled by an “Extraterrestrial disclosure race” now developing between China, the U.S., and other major space powers as to which nation will be the first nation will use the authority of its Head of State and secret ET files to authoritatively declare there is an extraterrestrial presence on Earth.

    The first nation to authoritatively announce the Extraterrestrial presence stands to gain world prestige and trust in the eyes of the increasingly extraterrestrially-sophisticated more than 6.89 billion persons populating the Earth at this time.

    One journalist, Michael Cohen, notes that “Prime time TV news broadcasts announcing the upcoming US UFO admission…. have been beamed to the living rooms of hundreds of millions of intrigued Chinese citizens.

    “Commentators and analysts now believe a new cold war over alien and UFO secrets is underway between the two superpowers.

    “The historic decision [by Xinhua by Chinese national Television agency] to broadcast this news is seen as stemming from fears that the US might steal China's glory and admit an alien presence on Earth before Beijing does.

    “In fact, neither side particularly wants to admit to the public that they are in contact with aliens, however at the same time, they do not want the other side to do so first. In other words, if there is UFO admission both nations want it to be their moment of glory.

    “The recent news broadcasts are probably a way for progressive elements within the Communist party to nudge the notoriously cautious President Hu Jintao by bringing to his attention the possibility that America might steal his moment and come clean.

    “In an era where both superpowers possess enormous nuclear arsenals it is essential that the race to UFO disclosure does not heat up into fully blown conflict, or else alien observers themselves might be forced to intervene.”

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    http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-...ional-tv-repor...



    Any thoughts Cayman?

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    ......in 1949, a movement in China, funded and encouraged by world PTB, which includes some American citizens, was to grow into a behemoth beyond historical telling. This movement has grown to what we see today, and the Chinese people are subjected to on a daily basis. This movement in China spawned a regime of evil that makes all others in the world pale by comparison.
    ......
    An intriguing theory. My opinion of that is related to the questions below

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    One thing I find interesting about China is that it is acting more and more like a superpower, but China has never been a colonizer, like Britain or the US. What do you think China's end game will be? And, do you think that China is sovereign -- meaning in control of itself and not subordinate to some Western or other global superpower?
    For the sake of reasoning to our question , we have to dig much deeper to have a microscope view of the Chinese regime itself.
    Most of outsider or Majority of Chinese population would think the Chinese regime as an whole unification of interests. Actually, that's never the case. Just like there're Illuminates, Freemasons, MJ12, various interests groups play with each others behind the scene in the USA. Chinese regime is the same, but it is much harder to identify. Because of that, it's no easy way to tell "what the Chinese regime is up to?"

    As far as I could tell,in the past 10 year, various contradict incidents happened in the regime, even for those high level insiders that I know of are confusing.

    Given the completely controlled Media conditions, there are literally nothing concrete to confirm or deny our suspicions. In a sense, I need you guys who are outside China to offer as many materials as you can(no matter how insane that might be), together, we might get a more clear pictures---that's the primary reason why I am here, not only reporting, but also more importantly---learning

    But for the sake of our conversation, at this point, my conscious tendency is: China is sovereign, the Chinese regime is sovereign mainly speaking although there are forces(on earth level) try to infiltrate, the competition is seething among different forces within the regime,all of them are trying to use outside forces(on earth,above earth,under earth or whatever) to leverage themselves. the End-game scenarios are: A compliant China under the NWO(seems most likely) ; a new Chinese empire rising up against NWO(that would be complicated); No China, no nations, we are united as one new world(that require miracles)

    so, we should work together and try to find out more. the recent meeting between Presidents of China and US, I believe there are major clews for our future, so now , I'm focus on that. you'll know anything I find.
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    Question 1: What do you know about the the massive increase in Chinese Defense spending and the Chinese Military build up in the Southern Hemisphere?
    Actually, I don't know anything about that, but I'll try to find out more---if it's true, that will not be a good sign

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    Question 2: Regarding the 'People Daily' article on Australia's Pine Gap being an Alien Base? Can you give us a little more insight on what else was said about Pine Gap? ......
    Everything I know about the Pine Gap is from the Camelot interview with Bob dean

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    Question 3: I would be interested to know your thoughts on one of the latest Australian blockbuster movies called "Tomorrow When The War Began" which depicts a Chinese invasion of Australia.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1456941/

    ...... I would be interested in your thoughts as to whether or not a Chinese Invasion of Australia is a possibilty?......
    Since I cant' access IMDB website from China, I can just put out my original thoughts on that: Given the abilities of Chinese Military that I know of, China Invasion of Australia is remotely possible.

    If you can offer me some reference about "the Chinese Military build up in the Southern Hemisphere", that will be appreciated.

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    Would you please translate what the Chinese news anchor is saying......and give us your impressions regarding this thread:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...313#post103313
    Actually, I noticed this "News" 2 weeks ago, It's the same kind of shocking as my post on the People Daily report about "Aliens".
    the original source is here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/video/2011...c_12944686.htm

    The main content of what the TV news anchor say in Chinese is :" UFO八卦网站AllNewsWeb宣称,美国国防部“先进研究计划总署”(DARPA)已经承认,总统欧巴马将在一项演说中脱稿间接承认,外星人可能试图联络地球人,而且各国政府在3年内会直接承认,地球人和外 星人已有接触。"

    Translation: "An UFO gossip website name AllNewsWeb claim: US Defense Advanced Research Program Apartment(DARPA) had admitted: there will be a speech, in which,without script, President Obama will confess that: ETs might try to contact human, within 3 years, governments of earth will admit that human had contact with ETs."

    you see, how many "probable" words they used? and the TV channel is a local TV channel, Xinhua news just quoted that as an entertainment style report. the appearance of the content itself is worthless and boring.
    but background of the context is important: XinHua news is the most important official Info&Intelligence Agency under direct controlled by the Top of CCP. It doesn't own a newspaper or TV channel per say,the website is its only public channel, but everything reported in/out China is under and through its control, so, you see, it never say something meaningless or far out.
    And one more thing to add: its reports about Aliens or dooms day debate stuff are increasing rapidly in the last 6 months. So you can bet on more things will come from it.

    My thought is: Xinhua news Agency informations leak tactic: borrow others' mouth and others' words to say what they really want to prepare you, that create a plausible confirm and deny abilities, when things finally come out, either way, they win----two birds with one stone. that's the way they usually do.
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    Thanks Cayman. Very interesting!

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    Chinese National TV Reports President Obama to Disclose Extraterrestrial Contact!
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    Submitted by Alfred Lambremo... on Fri, 01/21/2011 - 19:15

    by Alfred Lambremont Webre
    ............

    ...........

    In fact, neither side particularly wants to admit to the public that they are in contact with aliens, however at the same time, they do not want the other side to do so first. In other words, if there is UFO admission both nations want it to be their moment of glory.

    The recent news broadcasts are probably a way for progressive elements within the Communist party to nudge the notoriously cautious President Hu Jintao by bringing to his attention the possibility that America might steal his moment and come clean.

    In an era where both superpowers possess enormous nuclear arsenals it is essential that the race to UFO disclosure does not heat up into fully blown conflict, or else alien observers themselves might be forced to intervene.”

    ......
    Mr. Alfred is right on!

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    That 1st video is awesome! Does appear to be a high altitude missile though but what a spectacle to behold nonetheless!
    "As long as you still view the stars as something above you, you still lack a viewpoint of knowledge" -Fredrich Nietzche

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    Actually, I don't know anything about that, but I'll try to find out more---if it's true, that will not be a good sign

    Everything I know about the Pine Gap is from the Camelot interview with Bob dean

    Since I cant' access IMDB website from China, I can just put out my original thoughts on that: Given the abilities of Chinese Military that I know of, China Invasion of Australia is remotely possible.

    If you can offer me some reference about "the Chinese Military build up in the Southern Hemisphere", that will be appreciated.
    Thanks for your Reply Cayman,

    Here is some interesting information for you to ponder. Keep up the Good Work...

    China hiding military build-up: WikiLeak's cable shows Australian intelligence concerns

    "AUSTRALIA'S intelligence agencies believe China is hiding the extent of a massive military build-up that goes beyond national defence and threatens regional stability, the latest WikiLeaks cables show.

    A strategic assessment by the agencies found that China's military spending for 2006 was $90 billion - double the $45 billion budget publicly announced by Beijing, Fairfax newspapers reported."

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225983341586

    Fears over China military buildup

    "AUSTRALIA'S intelligence agencies believe China is hiding a massive military build-up.
    A strategic assessment by the agencies found that China's military spending for 2006 was $90 billion - double the $45 billion budget publicly announced by Beijing.

    "China's longer-term agenda is to develop `comprehensive national power', including a strong military, that is in keeping with its view of itself as a great power," a copy of the secret assessment provided by Foreign Affairs officials to the US embassy in Canberra said.

    "We agree that the trend of China's military modernisation is beyond the scope of what would be required for a conflict over Taiwan.

    "Arguably China already poses a credible threat to modern militaries operating in the region and will present an even more formidable challenge as its modernisation continues."

    The 2006 Australian intelligence assessment was contained in a US embassy cable obtained by WikiLeaks.

    The assessment also warned that factors including China's rising nationalism and difficulties with Japan meant that "miscalculations and minor events could quickly escalate".

    In the attached Poll "Should Australia fear China's military", 76% anserwed Yes to this question:

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/n...-1225983427134

    Tomorrow, When the War Began Full Length Trailer HQ!





    Regarding Pine Gap here is some more information you might find interesting...



    Navy Diver involved in murder of Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt in 1967, as Holt was opposed to bases such as Pine Gap on Australian soil...

    http://www.harold-holt.net/

    Pine Gap is linked by a 1400 mile long tunnel to North West Cape (Submarine Station) and Submarines refuel at Pine Gap. The facility has up to 9 underground levels...

    http://www.uforq.asn.au/casefiles/pinegap.html

    Underground Bases and Tunnels by Richard Sauder says some sources even contend that Pine Gap is simultaneously operational in the 3rd, 4th and 5th dimensions. A man who once communicated with Rich Hansen, told him he leaves for Mars military service from a time portal in Australia (Pine Gap).

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._pinegap08.htm

    HAARP and the Mystery of Pine Gap, Australia...

    http://stream.adamdodson.org/items/view/3176
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    Fears over China military buildup

    "AUSTRALIA'S intelligence agencies believe China is hiding a massive military build-up.
    A strategic assessment by the agencies found that China's military spending for 2006 was $90 billion - double the $45 billion budget publicly announced by Beijing.
    That would make China the 2nd biggest military spender just measly $600 billions behind USA


    the world's top 5 largest military budgets in 2009



    USA spends as much on it's military as the rest of the world combined !

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    .......
    Navy Diver involved in murder of Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt in 1967, as Holt was opposed to bases such as Pine Gap on Australian soil...

    http://www.harold-holt.net/

    Pine Gap is linked by a 1400 mile long tunnel to North West Cape (Submarine Station) and Submarines refuel at Pine Gap. The facility has up to 9 underground levels...

    http://www.uforq.asn.au/casefiles/pinegap.html

    Underground Bases and Tunnels by Richard Sauder says some sources even contend that Pine Gap is simultaneously operational in the 3rd, 4th and 5th dimensions. A man who once communicated with Rich Hansen, told him he leaves for Mars military service from a time portal in Australia (Pine Gap).

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._pinegap08.htm

    HAARP and the Mystery of Pine Gap, Australia...

    http://stream.adamdodson.org/items/view/3176

    Thanks for the input. very interesting stuff

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    Cayman thanks for all the information from inside. I am a student studying chinese now and all your reports tell information im not going to get in a textbook or hear from my Laoshi. Best wishes!
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    Quote I believe I first saw it on David Wilcock's website as "China October surprise".
    Cayman, you start talking about this post and then speak about other things. I was wondering how many people have actually seen David Wilcock's post on 'China's October Suprise' and perhaps you could share any insight into this? I think this particular topic bears some more attention than I have seen, people have mentioned it in passing and I wonder why nothing more has been said here at Avalon? (unless I have missed it by virtue of it being buried in amongst the many other posts that have been flying in the last short time)
    More questions, the sooner we get closer, the sooner we head off disaster, and create the 'Eucatastrophy'.

    Thank you Cayman for your insight, you have obviously gone to great lengths on your research.

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    I used to live in and just outside of Alice Springs ...just as you come into alice there's mass arrays of antenae and they have a csiro quarantine station also just on the edge of town , further out they have a quarantine station

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    not to mention the prison just down the road from "the gap"

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    Cayman : can you configure your browser to reroute through a proxy server ?

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    That would make China the 2nd biggest military spender just measly $600 billions behind USA


    the world's top 5 largest military budgets in 2009




    USA spends as much on it's military as the rest of the world combined !
    Thank you for that perspective redezra. China has over 3 times the population of the USA and has a mind to protect its' assets. The anglo based news reports have the shadow of hysteria in the way they present their distorted news. CHINA DOUBLES ITS MILITARY BUDGET!!!!. As your graph so clearly demonstrates. So what! the USA is going rogue, can you blame a country with the resources China has from making sure they stay out of Americas cross hairs? I'm not portraying the Chinese government or military as cuddly or benevolent, but relatively benign might not be to much a stretch of the imagination.
    Now of course if the banksters get their way, and I hope they are coming their end, they will push for aggression. The banksters have created all modern wars and their greed knows no limits. We can only hope this greed will be their undoing as they expose themselves by overreach. The internet and mass awakening are creating a light that has the capacity to disturb these cockroaches and make them fear for their safety. The world must rid itself of the infection of the international bankers.
    Thank you Cayman for making us aware that we anglo countries are not the only ones infested with this filth. You make it clear that you are suffering under an even heavier burden because of your more developed police state. I feel honored to be able to communicate with you at Avalon. This blessed isle.

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    Quote Posted by Damnos (here)
    Cayman, you start talking about this post and then speak about other things. I was wondering how many people have actually seen David Wilcock's post on 'China's October Suprise' ......

    Love and Kindness
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    Thank you for your reminder. the original source is in David Wilcock's website
    http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...risequarantine

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    Cayman : can you configure your browser to reroute through a proxy server ?
    proxy server is the best way to reroute, but I have a hard time to find a stable proxy server. the Chinese "Great firewall" seems have some A.I capability, it can adapt to block the way used to work best. Now, I'm using various computers with different OS and various methods to get pass at the same time. If you or anyone else know some good proxy servers, please kind enough to enlighten me, thank you

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    Hi, Charles, very much appreciate for your input here. I enjoy your style
    I'm from China, so my questions is:
    1) Have you ever engaged with Chinese personally?
    2) Have you ever been to China?
    3) Are you doing anything relate to China nowadays? or Will you?
    4) Is Chinese population a big concern to all the 33 point of view
    5) Is China(or Chinese regime) the solo force independent from the 33? or China is part of the parallel force which confront the 33?
    6) What is your personal view of China? what is you master think of China?
    7) I know you are super busy right now, whenever you are available, I would like to invite you to see my reports from China, I know my knowledge is very limited, so if you can make some comments on it, that should shatter the stones in my pocket. my post is https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ening-in-China

    Thank you very much for you candor and diligence!
    Charles/Atticus reply to your post;

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    Could you pm me please,thank you.

    Important
    Have you had a chance to correspond with Charles/Atticus yet?

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    I used to live in and just outside of Alice Springs .......
    So you used to be a neighbor with Aliens, cool!

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