Are you afraid to speak out?

[Pam]

This is the era of technological advances beyond what we could have imagined 30 years ago. Personal information is available to anyone with a little curiosity, a few bucks and a PC.

I was shopping for Auto Insurance a while back and was blown away that a perfect stranger I talked to on the phone about an insurance quote had immediate access to my credit score, home address and names of others living in the household, a list of accidents and tickets on my record and probably a lot more.

A while back I went to the ER . I had never been there before, I was surprised that they had a computer program that exchanged medical information with pharmacies, doctors and other hospitals. So much for confidentiality.

The amount of personal information that is readily available for the masses to see is mind blowing, imagine what is available to the government with a little help from AI. If an individual draws attention from the government in any way, it would be very easy to mine for more details.

I am wondering if my observation is correct. It seems to me that there is more apprehension to participate in discussions online that may involve speaking out against the government.

In a nutshell, I am curious to hear if PA members do any self censoring or if they curtail involvement in conversations that could raise red flags. I would like a little soul searching before you answer, really think about it.

[Matt P]

I've thought about this quite a bit already. I used to make all online comments under my own full name and I did enough of it that I'm sure my government knows everything about me they need to know.

I also agree with the old phrase "Evil thrives when good people do nothing." I decided long ago that I'd rather speak my mind and live with the consequences than to shut up and go just go along with things I knew were wrong. Imagine if EVERYONE did this?! Imagine if all the good people of the world stopped worrying about what others think and actually spoke their truth and stood up for what is right? Yeah, we probably wouldn't be dealing with all this crap today.

I say, hell yeah, get off your fence and take a stand. The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.

They can't catch ALL of us if we all do this.

Matt

[Sunny-side-up]

Considering the fact that they wan't to kill most of us off indiscriminately, well!

This question depends on your own status as well.
Do you have money to be self sustained and can up and go when, where you like, or are you on benefits which means you are already very valuable and basically enslaved to them

[Ewan]

If there are lists the majority of Avalon are already on them. :D

Speak up, it's not a popularity contest. I had my son at the dental hospital last week and there was a questionaire involved in which I mentioned the toothpaste used was fluoride free. When asked why I explained that fluoride was a neuro-toxin, accumulates in the bones and is linked to all manner of chronic disease. She listened politely enough and when I was finished launched into a speech about how fluoride was the single most important care item for young peoples teeth. It was as though she'd just left the lecture hall and was repeating by rote. Can guarantee she never went home to begin her own research but we must do what we can.

[Bubu]

Yes they knew what we are saying and doing, Afraid to speak out? Fear is one that makes us fall into their trap. Living in fear is not living at all, which means that I'd rather die than live in fear.

[Pam]

Thanks for the great comments so far. Although I don't use my full name here, I do use it for most other things when I write online. I have committed to speaking out, whatever that means, but I must admit that there are times when I question the sanity of it. Will I still feel the same way if they come to gather those that are of questionable loyalty. Do I really have the internal strength and stamina that I think I do? I have been a big city dweller most of my life, but have moved to a small town a couple of years ago. I can see how the police are really aware of the "trouble makers". The ones that don't follow without question.

For me, at this point, it is a matter of making my life and actions match my internal convictions, and that takes a form of courage. I believe there are convictions that I am willing to die for, but I often wonder if the Sh## hits the fan, will I still have that conviction?

[Sunny-side-up]

I guess real name or online name they now who you/we are.
The only difference is that you write/chat under a fictitious name, is the still you?
If pinch came to punch, if they wan't you they will get you.
but yes it is important to show what we think and to help others open up, wake up!

[ghostrider]

I will always speak out ,l it's the only way seeds are planted to one day take root and grow into something beautiful ... civilizations always kick against truth , and truth is always cold and hard ...

[WildOrchid]

We are in midst a "war" of freedom of ideas, thought, expression, individual liberty, privacy etc.
So in my view the wisdom of Sun Tzu (art of war) is quite applicable:

"The wise warrior avoids the battle.”

“Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”

“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”

“Great results, can be achieved with small forces.”

“mystify, mislead, and surprise the enemy”

Much more here
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quote...z-b-ngf?page=2

[Orph]

This is a question that can only half the people can answer. The other half can't answer because they're afraid to speak out.

[amor]

While wide awake, watching the sun rise above the horizon, my consciousness was snatched out of my body and there I was before the ALL POWERFUL GOD of the UNIVERSE. He said, I am a God of Love, I am a God of Holiness, I am a God of JUDGMENT! When he said that, he was frighteningly serious. After he assured me that I had come from him and would return to him, he gave me the Beatific Vision. For many months after, I realized that I had been baptized by the Holy Spirit. I am 76 years old and cannot remember one day in my life that I felt I belonged here and was happy. You may slay me, but I shall be more powerful from the other side and I have been shown The DEMONS of HELL by the Christ Spirit. All of which is waiting for those who kill the JUST, such as the dead Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and say there is no God, "Let us steal, kill and Lie." Unfortunately, I am directly descended from the longest lines of world rulers there is. However, I will bow to none of them but GOD.

[Carmody]

If not You, then... who?

If not Now, then... when?

[Harley]

Posted by Orph (here)
This is a question that can only half the people can answer. The other half can't answer because they're afraid to speak out.

Is it a matter of being afraid?

Or is it more a matter of being smart?

[TargeT]

I only self censor when I know it's a risk to my job... since eating is important and all that..

otherwise, NSA can suck my balls (I expected this to get caught by the filter.. haha), read away my friends..... at least that way you'll see you're demise coming.


no, all that said: I do not participate in obvious social experiments (facebook, twitter, flicker etc...)

[Calz]

Posted by Harley (here)

Posted by Orph (here)
This is a question that can only half the people can answer. The other half can't answer because they're afraid to speak out.

Is it a matter of being afraid?

Or is it more a matter of being smart?

Those with children and families to consider have an extra level to ponder.

I have toned it down considerably at times ... yet have come to think that I don't want to face death (life review and so on) with not having done *something* to fight for what is right.

Not a warrior ... yeah like my shotgun will hold off a swat team.

So much evil.

Makes me wonder if karma isn't just another new aged trap.

... but that would be going wildly off topic.

[Althena]

Toning it down, self censorship, fictitious names, VPNs, it DOES NOT MATTER. We are all on their little black book. Good times ahead. Keep awake.

[Tangri]

Posted by Orph (here)
This is a question that can only half the people can answer. The other half can't answer because they're afraid to speak out.

....

[Mike]

I understand playing it a bit safe sometimes. Totally get it. Respect it.

But really what chance do we have when the the majority of the so called resistance are too skittish to even reveal their faces on a place like avalon? I mean, if that represents a courageous act for most of us, whats going to happen when we're forced into something that requires real courage and bravery?

I fear the worst.

I used to believe in the cavalry. I thought there were thousands upon thousands of folks out there like us...folks that, for whatever reason, didnt interact on forums n such, but instead sat in the silences..waiting for the time to act..

I finally figured out thats not true. Theres just us. And that scares me. It's a lonely feeling.

Because I think we've slowly hypnotized oursleves into thinking posting on the forum is a courageous and subversive act...and it reallly isnt. It's an easy thing to do. And that gives us a distorted view of what courage really is, and.what should be considered brave and what shouldnt....and in drastically undershooting the mark, we vastly overestimate our roles and underestimate the minimum requirements of one who considers oneself part of the "resistance"

[Carmody]

I am personally, individually, directly responsible for the perpetrators of 9/11 having to pull the story about cell phones in planes.

And a bunch of other stuff.

yet,

I'm still here.


So, what is the problem for some of you?

The problem with this sort of asymmetrical war, is that you lose your best first, while they hold the line and the rest of the folks are given the chance to wake up.

Sometimes I'm resentful, sometimes I'm not.

[Calz]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Sometimes I'm resentful, sometimes I'm not.

Do you have kids Carmody???

I don't think you do ... or if you ever mentioned such I missed it.


Would that change how you feel (silly question I suppose because until you have kids you wouldn't know)


On one hand it makes you (me) more protective and cautious yet on the other I look at the world and what we are leaving for our children.

I don't like it.

I feel guilty that I should have and should be doing more ...