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    [Mod-edit: 58 posts from the original thread were moved to this one in an attempt to untangle the roles and confusion regarding the two main subjects. See this post <---]

    onawah with respect every one is unique and equal.
    The Buddha, who never claimed specialness, said "Put no head above your own"
    I think that is very good advice.

    My issue with Simon is the advice not to go into the light when you die.
    Religions tend to promote fear of what might happen to you when you die in order to control.

    Im my opinion there is enough to contend with in "every day normal" life without fear of the here after and what I find to be bizarre statements about soul capture.
    If ancient spiritual texts are looked at and current teachers like Mooji, Eckhart Tolle and many others are listened to, then honestly there is nothing to fear --in essence the there is only one without another--only God is, and you are that.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Greybeard, in terms of contradictions, I'd say Simon is pretty unique compared to the average person.
    I didn't say anything about equality, nor was I inferring anything about worth; in any case and in lots of ways, no doubt Simon is quite average.
    I wasn't touting him in any way, just letting people know what he has said recently, which they might find of interest, since this is a thread about him.
    Stories about soul capture may seem bizarre to you, but lots of people have them--they might find you bizarre for not understanding there's something going on with that, considering their numbers, including many members of Avalon.
    The concept of God also varies considerably--what is it that makes you think the sources of teaching you reference are superior to any other, or that those teachings haven't been tampered with over the centuries as so many have?
    In Zen Buddhism, there is no God at all and practitioners are advised to "throw the Buddha out", yet Zen practitioners have direct experience of Source, or satori, quite regularly ( I did myself, when I lived in a Zen Center years ago.
    Consequently, I was quite happy to throw out the concept of God as well.)
    Simon's advice about not going into the light is referring to an artificially generated false light (not Source), a kind of energetic bubble that much New Age activity is promoting which is very ungrounded, though it may feel good.
    I was fooled by that for a long time myself, though no longer, so I find that advice to be quite relevant.
    If you think all that kind of thing is nonsense, I don't really understand why you are a member of Avalon, where a lot of time is devoted to investigating just this kind of thing.
    You use the forum to preach what you seem to think is your superior take on reality and spirituality, which frankly I don't find relevant to this or many of the other discussions where you have contributed similar posts.
    Yet you reference this quote "Put no head above your own".
    I find that to be quite a contradiction, too.
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    onawah with respect every one is unique and equal.
    The Buddha, who never claimed specialness, said "Put no head above your own"
    I think that is very good advice.

    My issue with Simon is the advice not to go into the light when you die.
    Religions tend to promote fear of what might happen to you when you die in order to control.

    Im my opinion there is enough to contend with in "every day normal" life without fear of the here after and what I find to be bizarre statements about soul capture.
    If ancient spiritual texts are looked at and current teachers like Mooji, Eckhart Tolle and many others are listened to, then honestly there is nothing to fear --in essence the there is only one without another--only God is, and you are that.

    Chris
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I do agree that the word God is misleading onawah --however the statement "You are that" is in line with no god, at least nothing separate.
    The first hand information from those "Self realised" including the member Tim who speaks of this in the spiritual section is uniform.
    I dont preach just share what interests me and many others. Over three thousand visitors go to the the thread on enlightenment each week.
    Zen teaches non-duality which is what I believe in.
    Non-duality, Self realisation is the way out of the wheel of reincarnation.
    I know of of other way.
    The spiritual section is very much part of Avalon is it not?

    We can agree to disagree onawah--you have every right to your opinion as do others.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Certainly we can agree to disagree and you have every right to your opinion, as long as you don't attempt to "correct" others who don't necessarily share your opinions.
    I do question whether the opinion you voiced was relevant (on topic) to this thread, and to whether inserting your belief system comments outside of the spirituality section, into discussions on very different subjects is appropriate.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    For clarification and with hope that no one feels offended by my previous remarks ( I'm about 10 days back from India now and miss the love and spices ) ,

    I've experienced too many strange reactions from people in the years following my main ET contact event ( vis here : https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...of-Mankind-Q-A)
    and what you would probably label subtle psychological targeting at all times ,

    allow me to tell the other people reading is that I don't consider such a result of some sort of clandestine global conspiracy but rather what can be considered typical human nature and ignorance , prejudice and misinformation.

    Being sensitive to environments and people , I'm not on social media a lot nowadays ( so far this forum is the only remaining public outlet I keep active ,
    not closing my mind to options but ..well anyway ,
    the debate and human nature, and scientific findings and reports discussed are rather similar in its clue points wherever you go )

    There's a widespread targeting going on from the say, copycats of hard core ( and maybe even some soft-core ) skeptics ,
    the real skeptics can't be bothered to read here so never mind ,

    from simple commoners who think about improving society by politicising 'alien agendas' ( vis for example, exopolitics or secret space programs ),
    those who are trying to monopolise certain type of information as a tool of their foreseen governance ,
    so called researchers who are waiting for human like ETs to talk to them in American English ( preferably with their regional accent ) and so forth.

    As a member of 6 years here .. still feeling lots of pressure and intimidation before I post knowing it's going to be read not only by people who care about each other and retain their sovereign instincts
    but also by plenty who consider themselves 'all knowing' 'mothers n fathers' , protectors of the species and controllers of the chessboard .

    I've learned from the humans involved how having big shoulders and playing lots of tricks actually works
    and how truth alone is either almost intangible - talking of real inter-species communication here - or perhaps , not spicy enough to be tried at all .

    And much more . Human nature ...


    Being open about your ET enterprises with humans should be reserved to safe , trustable friends and of them , very few can 'take it' anyway or in the long run.

    And yet ... we come back here , to place of public viewing and scrutiny where unknown minds drunk on whatever , still keep greeting me with 'go eat a borsch' ( not sure with spelling ) because I was born in Prague , lived in India and they always sat home and thought that it's all Russia behind borders ( just tease ).

    There were times when I thought it all would better never happen and my life could have continued on its calmer , cleaner avenues , making me aware how knowing too much usually pains and how there are very few real remedies .


    What gives me the strength to go , on the other hand ... is the purpose of this mission, this new horizon we are approaching , discovery of unknown lands ,
    landscapes of existence we could only sense before we encountered them for real .
    They're there I believe for us and when we are ready ..



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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I have listened to Simon for some time now. He do help me put the pieces together in this almighty matrix we live in and experience. The ego-created character that goes by the name Simon Parkes seems like a nice guy. Then.. We also have this mixture of reptilian and mantis. This individual frequently talks about himself, referring to be both reptilian and mantis. I wonder what kind of known or/and unknown characteristics we are not seeing or even noticing. Come to think about it. He just present himself as Simon Parkes and goes on with saying he's something completely different.

    I'm trying to figure out how it would be profitable in the heart to trust a reptilian or mantis. Extraterrestrials seems to like playing games with the human mind.

    A little bit off topic. Needed to ventilate just a little!
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by alexius (here)
    I have listened to Simon for some time now. He do help me put the pieces together in this almighty matrix we live in and experience. The ego-created character that goes by the name Simon Parkes seems like a nice guy. Then.. We also have this mixture of reptilian and mantis. This individual frequently talks about himself, referring to be both reptilian and mantis. I wonder what kind of known or/and unknown characteristics we are not seeing or even noticing. Come to think about it. He just present himself as Simon Parkes and goes on with saying he's something completely different.

    I'm trying to figure out how it would be profitable in the heart to trust a reptilian or mantis. Extraterrestrials seems to like playing games with the human mind.


    A little bit off topic. Needed to ventilate just a little!
    I think it is a good idea to question everything. Be very cautious with trust. My old boss, John Ward (Senior Project Engineer), used to say "Trust your fellow man but check up on him." I liked the part "check up on him".

    My intuition tells me that within many ET groups, including the reptilians, there are a variety of agendas, both light and dark. Similar to our Earth humans. Some serve the light and some serve the dark side of consciousness.

    It would not take long for dark team reptilians to give all reptilians a bad name. Same applies to humans.

    IMHO, we are all extensions of Source energy on Prime Creators never ending journey of self discovery. Perhaps this experience can be accurately described as boot camp for consciousness.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    cccme & Ron. thank you for the brilliant answers!
    its becoming rather evident that each of us are experiencing our own individual reality - its nice to absorb the visions of others as it developes creative and open mind. truth or not.. perhaps it doesnt matter much.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    The new scifi movie Tomorrowland with George Clooney is referenced in the Skype talk.

    This is a trailer for the movie:

    I'm having an interestingly synchronistic morning.
    The first thing I saw on Facebook today was a video about a 13 year old prodigy which I posted here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049339

    In the talk with the Ramtha group, Simon says:
    that the Archons are hoping that the young prodigies who are incarnating on Earth now will be siphoned off into top secret technology projects and used to create technologies the Archons need

    when that is accomplished, their next goal is to destroy the human race, but their time is running out and the human race is evolving more quickly than they realized

    but the Illuminati are fracturing now because they have begun to realize they would also be destroyed

    the Archons' goal for a very long time has been to artificially advance human technological development, ahead of our natural rate of spiritual development.

    The latter theory coincides with theories from other sources about the Atlanteans and the Lemurians, in that the Lemurians were more spiritually advanced but were content to evolve more slowly and naturally, but were taken over by the Atlanteans who were more technologically advanced, leading to the destruction of both cultures.

    The movie Tomorrowland is apparently on a similar theme ( I haven't seen it as yet, but it's in my Netflix queue).
    What I don't understand is why the Archons, a non-physical race, would need the human race to develop technology for them.
    If they aren't physical, why would they need physical technology?
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This excerpt is interesting, about something I'd not heard before re the Archons:


    I'm having an interestingly synchronistic morning.

    The first thing I saw on Facebook today was a video about a 13 year old prodigy which I posted here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049339

    In the talk with the Ramtha group, Simon says:

    that the Archons are hoping that the young prodigies who are incarnating on Earth now will be siphoned off into top secret technology projects and used to create technologies the Archons need

    when that is accomplished, their next goal is to destroy the human race, but their time is running out and the human race is evolving more quickly than they realized

    but the Illuminati are fracturing now because they have begun to realize they would also be destroyed...
    I must be part of your synchronistic play, onawah, or you're in mine.

    I caught your video of Max Loughan earlier and when listening to Simon’s 8 minute video, he came to mind.

    BTW: Simon's videos are time stamped January 2, 2016.

    I’ll add your post here.
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This 13-year-old says he was put on this world to make a difference.
    Max Loughan created an energy harvesting device that could provide energy to some of the most desolate places on the planet.

    https://www.facebook.com/ktvnlandonmiller/?fref=nf

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Thanks Running Deer,
    Synchronicity happens!
    I noticed that date too, but the date on the excerpt was in December, so it must have been earlier than January, but I haven't been able to find the exact date yet.
    There is another interview from May 9th 2015 with the Ramtha group here:


    I don't know if that one was ever posted on Avalon either.
    He talks in that one in the first 10 minutes about the Indigo children who are awakening very quickly.

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    BTW: Simon's videos are time stamped January 2, 2016.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Another synchronicity is that yesterday I posted this:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049110
    about a recent astro reading for the planet which dwells on the same theme of how humanity has been evolving so fast technologically that we have lagged behind in our spiritual growth. Here's an excerpt:
    Quote In the last 50-60 years, through the growing integration of machinery, computers and electronic equipment into our workplaces (both business and domestically) we have seen an enormous improvement in our ability to raise our collective productivity and effectiveness in just about every area, and as such, at this quarter-juncture of this great Uranus/Pluto cycle, have created a burgeoning economic crisis in our obsessive pursuit into the realms of output productivity, over-efficiency of resources and labour. So much so that we have flushed away a great deal in order to ‘get the job done’. We have glorified the working culture, perfected the ‘working class’, learnt to measure national/cultural success via its GDP index, streamlined the time management of our entire lives, and in doing so we have all but cursed the more nebulous mysteries of life altogether, like dreaming, resting, healing and merging into one another’s lives without asking for distinct definition about what we want and how useful or how practical anything is.
    In our hyperbolic mania to become super-efficient we have taken this whole ‘civilization’ deal to an outrageously unsustainable level by specialising every aspect of our functioning. Such increased specialisation means fewer people can see the big picture, and most of us are at the point now where we are all somewhat caught up like cogs in the excruciating minutia of the productivity machine, our practical value and performance being monitored more by computers than other humans. Our efforts are measured against the most competitive global value, and as the world becomes more desperate to compete in the labour market, our time, and level of craftsmanship have become gradually diminished in worth. Of course, as machines gradually take over our everyday processes, we slowly become redundant, and by today’s measurements many of us may feel practically useless if unable to fit back into the machine.

    This is naturally not so good for the spirit.

    Hence, whilst the overall output of product is increasing in volume, lack of human involvement results in a product which is diminishing in both quality and value. We are mechanically churning out disposable products at a consumer rate which has become economically unsustainable.

    In short, we have become a species that is effectively mass producing its own disposable obsolescence, mostly because we have engineered the human service, craftsmanship and qualities of love and specialised care out of our own culture. How sad. . .

    We have imbued awful limitations in our ability to create a genuinely sustainable quality of life into our world, because in the pursuit of trying to become efficient, we have over-produced everything – including ourselves. And now, the world is swarming with a sea of spare, human parts – looking for a machine to fit into. Yet, the machine seems to be increasingly running fine without you, thank you.

    These limitations did not begin in the 1960’s. They trace back to the beginning of civilisation when man decided to give up his nomadic ways and become a farmer.

    The advent of agriculture defined the beginning of our limitations as a species. Not only did we immediately narrow our dependence of survival upon just a handful of plant species, we began to concentrate our population’s impact all in one place. We built fortresses to prevent the starving outsiders from stealing any of our surplus food, amassed armies to kill those who were not directly involved in food production, began to farm (not hunt) animals for food and labour, created a class of wealthy and elite to rule over the ‘labourers’, and set an ever expansionist culture upon an invasive, aggressive sprawl to seize and conquer the surrounding lands. Finally, thanks to global capitalism, six of our ‘finest’ families have managed to own the entire world.

    How long did that take?

    About 10,000 years. Prior to agriculture humans were nomadic, and our understanding of nature and its phenomenal diversity of lands, cultures, species, peoples and choices spread far and wide.

    So, are we at the end of civilisation?

    Of course we are. We have exhausted it. Agriculture is about to fail us due to dramatic climate change (hole in ozone layer). Our global currency is shifting from the $dollar$ – used to trade in stock and commodities to oil, arms, and balance of political power. This ties in with massive infrastructure changes in all sections of government, corporations, clergy, financial systems whose emphasis has moved further away from tending to the people that support them to defending and maintaining the functional efficiency of their power structure. And our leaders? Where are our leaders?

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    The effect of Industrialisation shown by rising income levels since 1500. The graph shows the gross domestic product (at purchasing power parity) per capita between 1500 and 1950 in 1990 International dollars for selected nations.
    In the past 500 years we have progressed from the Dark Ages to the Renaissance, to the Age of Enlightenment, to the Industrial Age and the now the rise of computer technology and robotics… within just a few centuries the human race has become ever so pathological in its climb to reach a level of ultimate efficiency that it has become inexorably ill – emotionally speaking. Socially our species has become diseased by our convergence into cities beyond millions; tens of millions of humans; all packed together, living on top of one another, scrambling to ‘get busy ‘ and ‘produce’ some ‘GDP’ within a single concentrated location.

    Our industrial capacity to extract megatons of resources from under oceans, deserts, rainforests, sides of mountains, fracking rock layers and farming vast fields of genetically processed crops is phenomenal. So much indeed that our population has exactly doubled since 1965 from 3.6 billion to 7.1 billion. According to statistics, we’re all better off – wealthier and busier.

    Everyone is busy. Too busy.

    And yet, curiously… everyone is broke. Or broken . . .

    . . . trying to fix something that was ironically perfect. And so we have amassed a peculiar debt that we will pay forward to our dear children. Most of the damage is incalculable, since at this point there is really no way to either see or measure the emotional suffering that is building on this planet, thanks to the industrial noise and the clamour created by our machine/robot/computer-dominated world.

    That we are somehow managing to support so much life upon what appears now to be a dying planet – a planet which if it were a human body would appear to be kept alive by artificial respirators, nebulisers, intravenous drips and genetically modified nutrients, whilst grafting organs, blood transfusions and bone marrow from our own children’s future planet to support a failing heart-beat. Meanwhile, the statements by the media are telling us that ‘the prognosis is stable’ and to carry on calmly because “There’s nothing wrong with grandma at all. She’s fine. Just carry on being busy at work”.

    It’s a good thing then that we have a bevy of narcotic distractions such as television, internet, prescribed pharmaceuticals and other wonderful drugs and alcohol to keep us dumbed and numbed, as well as those basic staples of society – work, sex, pop music, video games, homogenised consumer goods available online and of course porn on demand. Why would you bother to put yourself out when there is a constant supply of panacea to what Jung called the “Pleasure Principle”?

    Are we ready to understand how we are paving the way towards a pathological state of mass global depression? Is everybody ready?

    Well, . . . we think not.

    Depression is a common mental/emotional disorder. According to statistics from the WHO (World Health Organisation) globally, more than 350 million people of all ages suffer from depression. This is reported cases only. Depression is the leading cause of disability worldwide, and is a major contributor to the global burden of disease. One in five people is being treated with some form of depression at any one time, but then, many people – especially men – will go through depression all their lives and never be even diagnosed, let alone treated for the condition.

    Some people may be very well familiar with all this, but I’m sure that the vast majority of people are completely oblivious to how much their world is becoming affected by the lack of opportunities to make constructive choices due to our socially limiting cultures. Not many can see the effect of long range cycles either. Not many can see how their quality of life has, over the years, become increasingly compromised by the great creeping deception that their basic needs are taken care of as long as they have some form of a “job”. All we seem to worry about is whether there is adequate employment – a source of income to keep up with the process of paying bills. At the rate of today’s progress, the redundancy of many jobs that were once created by the’ industrial culture’ is getting more and more imminent.

    As the giants Uranus and Pluto square in on this Virgo Full Moon, we see globalization take its toll on our post-agricultural, post-industrial, post-consciousness shifted society. The emotional need to be oneself, no matter what the cost, and to make change happen is starting to dawn upon humankind. Our ‘jobs’ and our whole employment structure is barely sustainable with this planet’s economic resources. Many of us know that change and innovation are important, and we are finally ready to confront whatever has to be done to make change happen. Sudden, drastic turns of events that deeply affect and potentially change the way we pursue our goals, or even the goals themselves are about to occur as we each come to some level of understanding that we are missing so much from our lives due to our preoccupation with our ‘occupation’.

    The opposition to the Virgo Moon from Ceres/Neptune in Pisces presents us with a deeper, more pressing need to reconnect to our nurturing, maternal sensitivities in the most nebulous manner of this great earth mother’s most elusive yet deeply spiritual heart. Through dreaming, art, prayer or meditation, we become aware just how lost we have become in our illusion, delusion, lost perception, or misconceptions of what constitutes a nurturing parental role, not only to our children but this entire planet. Some of us who are more sensitive are welcomed into an awakening – an emotional insight into the higher dimensional realms. We see most starkly that what we have sought after in all the toil and physical struggle to get this world perfect has in the end failed to bring us any spiritual satisfaction.

    We make a decision now to let go of the futile struggle for ‘perfection’ and start the journey home, to re-embrace our custodial place in the great cosmic oneness. While others have become lost in the lower strands of this by hooking on to things like medication, booze, drugs, internet, perfunctory spirituality and other great forms of escape and glorified excuses (like work), becoming totally unavailable or confused en masse by the great machine of ‘civilization’, we come to rise above by purifying our intent and being more discerning about how we show our care.

    [art: brooke golightly]
    [art: brooke golightly]
    Such are the challenges and rude awakenings we face at this very confronting Virgo Full Moon.So how do we fix this massive problem? How do we remedy the situation?
    We must act locally. Starting with ourselves. The only thing we stand to salvage is our own spirit here. Refine our own intent. What more can one do to faithfully navigate their way out of all the disillusionment that we are facing?

    Staying pure, healthy, clear-minded about what really matters is the message of this wonderful Virgo Full Moon.

    Next fortnight’s PISCES SOLAR ECLIPSE (Mar 9),conjunct Chiron, is a powerful, universal call to officially introduce the shaman back into our world – hope you are all ready…

    Blessings, and have an amazing Full Moon!
    and the following, which concurs with what some have been saying about this Spring being a very critical time:
    Quote Personal baggage. Emotional, psychological, infantile clingings that we employ as crutches or as weapons over others - culturally implanted baggage that rings through all of us, like some inherited, unsigned agreement to play along to a ballgame that we don't necessarily enjoy, let alone ever chose to be a part of...
    Baggage.

    Dead weight we cannot take along with us on our amazing journey forward.
    All the money and resources in the world will soon not be able to secure a safe place. We are about to enter a most tense period in our social history. After a 3 year spell of squares from outer planets Uranus/Pluto, responsible for forming a revolutionary shift within our personal/global nervous system not felt since the mid 1960's, we are about to embrace a 3-4 month crisis that involves squares between socio/spiritual planets Jupiter/Saturn/Neptune - peaking on June 5 - in the very tense phenomenon of this Mutable Cross. The tight inclusion of Venus in the Gemini New Moon suggests that we come to a major crossroads in our evaluation of all of our relationships, and in an evolutionary sense, we are really about to release centuries of pent up karmic baggage.
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    This post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1054294
    and
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...421#post803421
    and others related to it in that discussion, deal with a subject which I think has not yet been thoroughly enough examined or discussed as yet, and it has to do with the role of the Mantids.
    PA member Truman Cash, also an Experiencer by his own admission, has a very different take on just what that is than Simon does. (Simon is still apparently, by his own admission, being influenced by the Mantid he calls "Mum".)

    From: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post908374
    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    I have seen this thread keep popping up from time to time, which I think is an indication that it is important to people as well as being mysterious.

    What I discovered is that the reality behind it is knowable, subjectively, but not yet knowable for the general public, so to speak. I covered this subject in a recent interview for the Project Avalon Forum.

    This subject is very touchy for some because it necessarily touches on the subject of religion. After all, people often report seeing dead relatives in NDEs or receiving divine knowledge and so forth. If taken literally it would indicate the existence of "heaven", an after life where one can still have one's body that one had in the earthly life and continue living forever without aging or death.

    But what if it's an illusion? What if it's an intended deception? It appears on its face that there are sentient beings behind this phenomenon who are apparently creating and perpetuating it. Why aren't they being up front about it and telling us what it's all about? Why all the secrecy? Is that a red flag we should pay attention to?

    What I and many other people have discovered for ourselves is that this is one of the biggest secrets.

    What I discovered is that one can discover for himself or herself what this is all about. To do so one must conduct extensive past life therapy and research. In doing so, the in-between lives incidents will start to show up.

    In short, the going-to-the-light phenomenon is accomplished with technology. The "light beings" that people see in NDEs are actually Mantis ETs who use an ability which can best be described as telepathic hypnosis. The Mantis ETs work in a coordinated conspiracy to establish dead end religions on this planet as well as secret societies to keep us in a state of confusion and chaos, which equates to spiritual darkness. Fortunately, things are indeed changing and we appear to be gradually evolving out of that paradigm.

    I have also commented on this phenomenon here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...421#post803421here.
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    ​Choosing between "going to the light" or returning to Source (as recommended by Simon and others) is an easy choice for me.

    How could holding a strong intention to return to Source be a bad choice? In that environment I expect to find freedom, accurate information and loving wisdom, all that I need to wisely choose my next adventure. Or possibly just hang out for a while and enjoy the vibes.

    We are so conditioned by religion, mainstream news, governments and misguided programmed friends to accept illusion and lies instead of truth. Some conditioning and manipulation is intentional, some is not. We need to learn to never give our power away to others.

    It makes so much sense to me that "going to the light" is a very clever trap created by the control freaks to manipulate our permission to return to this 3d reality. The harvesting and feeding of human loosh by the dark side is not disclosed. Very similar to a farmer (dark side ET) maintaining a herd (of humans) for food.
    Loosh: Energy generated by all organic life, the most potent coming from humans-engendered by human activity which triggers emotion, positive (love) or negative (fear, anxiety, stress, etc.).
    I have one recollection (a dream) of what may have been a memory erasure station, part of the "light trap" described by Simon. During the dream, while exploring somewhere off planet, I found a room with an open door. I entered and the door slammed shut and locked behind me. A very loud buzzing sound started and in the room with me were robots, possibly grays. Immediately recognizing that this was a trap, I called upon friendly ETs to get me out. No help came. Then I called upon my own power and was immediately set free. Probably a big lesson here.
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    Hi, Perheps this may be a good opportunity to view things well above the human interaction, We live in an extra - ordinary times with regards to the understanding of Alien/ interdimensional operations and how it controls and in the works on our planet and in our human being. These methods are used via all (most) everyone. It is true that we are seeking truth, but we are also at times in great need of help and assistnce with a lot of our findings and revalations (which often requires a good mental and emotional digestion), [U]it is this aspect of our empathy and human psychology that is well known and is 'catered for' by those same beings who currently subjagate the human society on this planet in some profound ways that we are now discovering to allow it all to come to the light of truth.

    One way to benefit is for us to be able to percieve what's going on beyond only the human to human level of things. Such needed observation may greatly support us at this time with the amount of truth that may swirl our heads first, but will push us to want to deprogram and free our minds from whatever it is that is not ours which was given to us, inserted in us, and was scripted inside us to follow and manifest a reality which is constant but not ours. and by this couragous approach we go back to our own 'realness' without any need to rely on anyone else. Some are chosing this option at this time, many more will follow, hereby lay our advancement and potential for evolution. Difficut truths backed by the implementation of technology are surfacing as to the amount of orchastration combined with beautiful opportunities, when we connect with our true spiritual essence and chose to go to roads of creation and independence from any ancient 'babysitters', refusing their work on us anymore, we better get there, but first we need to see, identify, not blame and tke personal responsibility. Universal benevolence is our inherent legacy and it is our right to implement and live by instead of the many scripts, games of manipulation and hidden energy downloads that we are being fed with by the various competeing forces. We have huge, remarkable and beyond belief beautiful potential and it seems to be a good time to pursue this and face the unnatural overlays and programs we are immersed with. No one is exempt. Droping any expectation on anyone else to 'tell us things' - this perheps could be a good first step, while we opt to share in equal manner our findings and understandings, trying to leave the interdimensional 'workings' aside. I wonder if any of this makes sense?

    I am attaching one of my recycled posts posted on Simon Parkes's thread in response to Flash, sorry for the length -
    ... we are all under a large influence from all kinds of directions, especially contactees, abductees and all sorts of other (future to be insignificant) titles. Self scrutiny is important if the destiny of this planet and it's inhabitants is at our hearts. With that said, what I hope we won't do is be deterred from looking at all aspects and all agendas from every angle, simply because there is a lot at stake

    Having been groomed from childhood (or even through pre-reincarnation or from soul relations/agreements) the individual does not have much choice but to follow the specific agenda they were programmed with, in this case that is the alien mind consciousness. Anyone who came to this planet with a purpose of helping or consciously being involved is pre-programmed, this is the name of the game, the nature of this type of reality. To take this thought further, if by origin one is from a fourth dimension realm, then they will unconciously promote their knowledge of their reality (etched in their cellular memory) and bring it here to this situation that humanity is at. We will also react (unconciously) to other's such offers made to us with the same engarved memory that we have in our 'incarnational DNA', this is why the intervening ET's wich sometimes appear as very helpful are working to alter us. This can also be done via a download given to an individual for the sake of healing, deprogramming, etc, a subtle touch of energy seeded within the individual that is willing to accept. Nowdays there are Arcaturian downloads, Reptilian downlowds, and we may be standing on-line to recieve it.. the notion that we are left 'alone' as species, then, with no intervention may not be completely accurate. I hope that is understood enough. If the origin of the individual is from an energy existance for example, or from fifth plain or sixth plain, that will also be evident in the desire and the promoting of solutions for this planet. So, in regards to what you said, Flash - "We have to decide by ourselves, with no outer influences and at any price"- that is true but probably not possible, unless we develop an awarness, deprogram ourself and view things from a more comprehensive perspective than just the one we came programmed with, either as deliverers of a message or as the recievers of it.

    Flash, You talk about freedom, free will, Sovereignty etc, I am with you. Is this what we are offered by the mantis beings, by the reptilians who according to Simon are in correlation with them at times? it's not up to me to convince one way or the other, some will say yes, some will say no, some will be assisted and some will be repressed , this is all part of the plan. If taking the more spiritual perspective there will be no repressions of any kind where some are being strengthened and others are being repressed, as that in itself is a manipulation.. the same old attempt to try and divert people one against another in a subtle way, to have such a gap in the perspectives.. Psychologically, we are being played with perfectly.. This is something some of the Alien types who are involved with us, know well and happy to operate behind the scenes, in this way it is always kept on the level of the human interaction, without seemingly any acknowledgment to the ET's own steering and grand 'contribution' behind the scenes.

    With this response, I am in no way, relating to all ET's, and I sympathise with Freed Fox's stance that - "there are benevolent AND malevolent individuals of ALL kinds. Humans, E.T.s, and E.D.s" and interaction IS important, though, simply done with our eyes open.

    If I may push it a little further, one of several sub-conscious messages given to us on this thread is that Humans can not evolve without the aliens guidance.- There is a usefulness in convincing us to think this way. Guidance is indeed needed, but to quote here another person which I trust- " The best guidance is subtle and nuanced. Its not overt hand holding, scolding, telling us what to do and what to think. That is the whole "Gods" concept all over again."

    Whatever vision or agenda we would like to pursue, as long as it is taking into consideration the best possible outcome for our human evolution, for this planet's evolution as in growth which is rooted in free will, in freedom of the species and a true spiritual evolvement as the leading considerations then all will be well. Simply, replacing one controller with another will not do this time.

    I wouldn't like to derail this thread even more, yes, I am concerned on the many subtleties going on that we can not always detect and that prevent us from taking a mindful yet objective decisions on how we would like to see our future. It is our tendency to rely on others to take care of us instead of learning how to take responsibility on ourselves (even if we think that we are doing just that and only encouraging some good neighborly relations) that is the impediment we have infront of us (one more to the list of challanges on this planet at this time)

    The risk of being a contactee of certain species from childhood is the conditioning to seek aliens for answers and rely solely on them, instead of going within to find the true OverSoul/Divine Source connection, therefore, the message is in accordance. Hopefully developing an awarness will help us all to safely navigate our way in this grand journey and continue interactions as we emerge out of the egg and collectively discover the world around us, while maintaining our rights to evolve gradually and keep some of our better features.

    I do appologise if this post is not worded as delicately as it could be, and am sorry for the length. The opportunity to be able to express ourselves here is exceptional, I am very thankful to be able to do this on the Avalon platform.
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    Quote Having been groomed from childhood (or even through pre-reincarnation or from soul relations/agreements) the individual does not have much choice but to follow the specific agenda they were programmed with, in this case that is the alien mind consciousness. Anyone who came to this planet with a purpose of helping or consciously being involved is pre-programmed, this is the name of the game, the nature of this type of reality. To take this thought further, if by origin one is from a fourth dimension realm, then they will unconciously promote their knowledge of their reality (etched in their cellular memory) and bring it here to this situation that humanity is at. We will also react (unconciously) to other's such offers made to us with the same engarved memory that we have in our 'incarnational DNA', this is why the intervening ET's wich sometimes appear as very helpful are working to alter us. This can also be done via a download given to an individual for the sake of healing, deprogramming, etc, a subtle touch of energy seeded within the individual that is willing to accept. Nowdays there are Arcaturian downloads, Reptilian downlowds, and we may be standing on-line to recieve it.. the notion that we are left 'alone' as species, then, with no intervention may not be completely accurate. I hope that is understood enough. If the origin of the individual is from an energy existance for example, or from fifth plain or sixth plain, that will also be evident in the desire and the promoting of solutions for this planet. So, in regards to what you said, Flash - "We have to decide by ourselves, with no outer influences and at any price"- that is true but probably not possible, unless we develop an awarness, deprogram ourself and view things from a more comprehensive perspective than just the one we came programmed with, either as deliverers of a message or as the recievers of it.


    Dear Limor,

    I'm sure you're completely right there . There's much misperception and misunderstanding , so also misuse of human mind based in very little understanding going on , and on, in this 'research area'.

    I've just mentioned in other thread how much secular education is really missing to billions of people around the globe , well, some do not like the term 'education' because it reminds 'institutionalised education' but that's not all I meant ,
    it's the information missing and being untrained in the intrinsic logical process that makes profound understanding available , not immediately but after 'mental work out' .
    Next to it, how much 'spiritual education' is available , globally and how much of any spiritual education is missing ..

    so how many people approaching this 'area' do have a clear idea about 'who are they' , and how does their mind function .
    How many people took the time and process to discern and peel off each layer of their social, religious , family and other forms of 'programming'

    how many people contemplated the interconnectedness of life on Earth to minute detail

    and how many people contemplate about the interconnectedness of life in the Universe .

    True, we all beg to differ . We already inhabit this planet together with few trillions of other species ( counting the bacteria in this time ) and they do play major role not only as our symbionts and vice versa but they do influence all our lives profoundly .

    I'm sorry if your religions did not tell you there's life out there and we are all connected . I'm even more sorry if people are so dull and unimaginative thinking there's no option 'beyond human legacy' and it's the same people , mostly , warning from abhorrent alien minds ,
    as there are others hoping in human-like aliens with taste for beer and human fashion .

    I'm sorry the internet is full of it . It's not better than comix magazine for adults these days, especially in the area discussed here .
    More intellectually endowed individuals go around here with cautions, I suppose .

    The nonsense is too dense to stir but 99,9% of it is bound to be completely human .

    It includes the 'confused human' and places him under the lamplight of misty investigation , the human who just barely woke up to being human ..

    who knows too little about himself to start with .

    How can someone who do not know themselves too well discern between 'human' and 'ET' or 'spiritual' and 'extraterrestrial' ,
    or even record some sort of intelligence from the 'other side' ,

    if the same person - lets say - was given 4 hour interview in Mandarin , with or without translator, how much would they be able to report from that interview ?


    I may be wrong .. but I am seeing abuse of both sides of this debate , the ET side and the human side.
    People know so little of each other and yet some , claim knowledge of 'ET races' and 'translate' them /explain them at their own liberty/ how much is any 'ET' entitled to human 'opinion' ,
    how well can any human person understand about any ET mentality without spending considerable time with them and so on.


    This field and its claims should be studied, first of all, it would divide the 'wheat from chuff' in the first row, second row, third row before we would ever start 'to study' and then ,
    I mean this would have to be done rather than said .

    More advanced intelligence than human are quite capable of human point of view, unless you miss what ways human perspective is limited , determined , relative to its time and circumstances ,
    how much the opposite is true is questionable and again, relative to how much 'free processing space' and memory does each individual in them that can compute another live data.


    I'd say so to anyone with ears to listen , Simon inclusive . Cast off the human deception and confusion ( the tons of it ) and what remains may be the bit ( and bite ) of pure information you have .

    And unless you can do that much, the rest about it is all from funny to pitiable , tragic and ridiculous - it's how people see us , from how I see them
    and that's not who we are , and what this is all about.

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    Could we non-Latin scholars have a translation please?
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere."
    I've found some of Simon's information as a whistleblower to be of interest and the process of assisting in bringing a whistleblower out of the shadows, so to speak (which I have spent a lot of time doing in Simon's case here on Avalon, however amateurishly) has been interesting as well.
    In trying to understand the more obscure and confusing aspects of my own journey, including contact with ETs and other out-of-the-ordinary experiences I have in years gone by gone to quite a few psychics and spiritual teachers, etc..
    The results were always mixed--sometimes I ended up having to spend more time and energy in healing my responses to the opinions of those individuals than I had to spend on the actual experiences that made me seek input in the first place!
    And other times the information was very useful.
    It seems we must be prepared for those possibilities when embarking on such a journey.
    I think it's a case of the (unlicensed) counselor in Simon being very much on a journey of learning himself in some very uncharted territory, but inasmuch as he has what he has described as a direct portal to Mantids (and perhaps other beings), that's pretty much an unknown factor, and I would certainly proceed with caution if I were planning to be on the receiving end of that, as a client.
    Just as we should be wary of who the source of information might be for channelers, or what their motivation or purpose might be, inasmuch as we do at least know now that a lot of channelers are being manipulated, whether willingly or without their knowledge.
    I once almost embarked on a Skype session with Simon, but as soon as we connected, I felt very uncomfortable and decided not to go through with it.
    Simon soon after that said in one of his talks or posts something about people who were afraid of the Jinn and didn't understand that they can be benign if used (by someone like him he added) with benign intentions.
    I never asked if he was referring to me, but that didn't matter to me--I don't really care if the Jinn are benign or not-- I just don't feel comfortable or safe with that connection, and I have to respect that.

    Eventually, on my own journey of seeking input from others, I learned not to take their opinions to heart in such a way that I could be unduly influenced or upset, but found a neutral space from which I could judge objectively whether the information was worth considering.
    However, by the time I was able to do that, I was feeling grounded enough in myself so as to not feel the need to get input from others, except in a very general sort of way.

    "No man is an island", and I think it is not an unhealthy thing to want to learn more about the world from the perspective of others' experiences and viewpoints though it's certainly helpful if we have the ability to use discernment and remain emotionally detached, but leaving ourselves open to being unduly influenced by another is another matter.
    It comes down to a process of finding one's center and staying grounded in that center.

    Then again, sometimes other people can be very useful in helping us to see ourselves as other see us.
    We all have our blind spots, and mirroring can be a good exercise if done in good faith.
    However, in my experience, that is usually accomplished in informal relationships of equality, not in the usual sort of teacher/student, counselor/client, etc. situation where the roles have preset and inflexible boundaries.
    The latter, I think, are characteristic of linear, patriarchal thinking and are more supportive of maintaining those kinds of structures than they are of the growth and nurturing of the individuals involved.
    Aside from many circles of women friends I've joined over the years who meet regularly for support, I haven't experienced many environments in which I've felt safe and supported enough to be really open and able to share and mirror freely.

    I think humanity's next step in evolution may be a spiraling back to a more tribal and individually empowering kind of social organizing, where there is a balance of feminine and masculine energies, instead of patriarchal structures.
    And in that way I think our greatest potential may be realized, and we may find the venues we need to evolve in the way I know we are capable of, as sovereign beings united in achieving common goals.

    I also discovered that potential in myself and others in a group, way back in the 60s when I lived in a spiritually based commune in the mountains of Virginia.
    In just one year, it was incredible how much growth and bonding I witnessed among the members, though a big part of the reason for that was that we were living closely and in harmony with Nature.
    And that latter connection is the other--if not the primary--piece of the puzzle that we have to find again if we are to be free, imho.
    If we can find a way to use science and technology to bring about a way to live again in harmony with Nature, instead of technology for the sake of technology, then the rest will surely follow.
    If our contact with ETs leads us in that direction, that seems positive to me; if not, then I don't think they have our best interests at heart, and that should be obvious.
    I think it is in recognizing that we are part of Gaia and Gaia is part of us that we will find our real identity as a race, and that it will be obvious that anyone, whether human or ET, who does not recognize and respect that is clearly not a friend to humanity or to Gaia.
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    Did anyone start to teach how to teleport , quite yet ?


    I'd love to learn that ability , it would save a lots on flight tickets . The sages of old say we can't learn that now because the environment is too polluted ..



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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Could we non-Latin scholars have a translation please?
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Praesertim venditor dicit: "Habes magna quaestio. Solum ego potest reficere."
    I've found some of Simon's information as a whistleblower to be of interest and the process of assisting in bringing a whistleblower out of the shadows, so to speak (which I have spent a lot of time doing in Simon's case here on Avalon, however amateurishly) has been interesting as well.
    In trying to understand the more obscure and confusing aspects of my own journey, including contact with ETs and other out-of-the-ordinary experiences I have in years gone by gone to quite a few psychics and spiritual teachers, etc..
    The results were always mixed--sometimes I ended up having to spend more time and energy in healing my responses to the opinions of those individuals than I had to spend on the actual experiences that made me seek input in the first place!
    And other times the information was very useful.
    It seems we must be prepared for those possibilities when embarking on such a journey.
    I think it's a case of the (unlicensed) counselor in Simon being very much on a journey of learning himself in some very uncharted territory, but inasmuch as he has what he has described as a direct portal to Mantids (and perhaps other beings), that's pretty much an unknown factor, and I would certainly proceed with caution if I were planning to be on the receiving end of that, as a client.
    Just as we should be wary of who the source of information might be for channelers, or what their motivation or purpose might be, inasmuch as we do at least know now that a lot of channelers are being manipulated, whether willingly or without their knowledge.
    I once almost embarked on a Skype session with Simon, but as soon as we connected, I felt very uncomfortable and decided not to go through with it.
    Simon soon after that said in one of his talks or posts something about people who were afraid of the Jinn and didn't understand that they can be benign if used (by someone like him he added) with benign intentions.
    I never asked if he was referring to me, but that didn't matter to me--I don't really care if the Jinn are benign or not-- I just don't feel comfortable or safe with that connection, and I have to respect that.

    Eventually, on my own journey of seeking input from others, I learned not to take their opinions to heart in such a way that I could be unduly influenced or upset, but found a neutral space from which I could judge objectively whether the information was worth considering.
    However, by the time I was able to do that, I was feeling grounded enough in myself so as to not feel the need to get input from others, except in a very general sort of way.

    "No man is an island", and I think it is not an unhealthy thing to want to learn more about the world from the perspective of others' experiences and viewpoints though it's certainly helpful if we have the ability to use discernment and remain emotionally detached, but leaving ourselves open to being unduly influenced by another is another matter.
    It comes down to a process of finding one's center and staying grounded in that center.

    Then again, sometimes other people can be very useful in helping us to see ourselves as other see us.
    We all have our blind spots, and mirroring can be a good exercise if done in good faith.
    However, in my experience, that is usually accomplished in informal relationships of equality, not in the usual sort of teacher/student, counselor/client, etc. situation where the roles have preset and inflexible boundaries.
    The latter, I think, are characteristic of linear, patriarchal thinking and are more supportive of maintaining those kinds of structures than they are of the growth and nurturing of the individuals involved.
    Aside from many circles of women friends I've joined over the years who meet regularly for support, I haven't experienced many environments in which I've felt safe and supported enough to be really open and able to share and mirror freely.

    I think humanity's next step in evolution may be a spiraling back to a more tribal and individually empowering kind of social organizing, where there is a balance of feminine and masculine energies, instead of patriarchal structures.
    And in that way I think our greatest potential may be realized, and we may find the venues we need to evolve in the way I know we are capable of, as sovereign beings united in achieving common goals.

    I also discovered that potential in myself and others in a group, way back in the 60s when I lived in a spiritually based commune in the mountains of Virginia.
    In just one year, it was incredible how much growth and bonding I witnessed among the members, though a big part of the reason for that was that we were living closely and in harmony with Nature.
    And that latter connection is the other--if not the primary--piece of the puzzle that we have to find again if we are to be free, imho.
    If we can find a way to use science and technology to bring about a way to live again in harmony with Nature, instead of technology for the sake of technology, then the rest will surely follow.
    If our contact with ETs leads us in that direction, that seems positive to me; if not, then I don't think they have our best interests at heart, and that should be obvious.
    I think it is in recognizing that we are part of Gaia and Gaia is part of us that we will find our real identity as a race, and that it will be obvious that anyone, whether human or ET, who does not recognize and respect that is clearly not a friend to humanity or to Gaia.
    Beautiful post Onowah. I wish I could have the good fortune of befriending someone like you in real life
    ISness is my business..

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    Thanks Basho!
    Project Avalon IS real life (in a way)!
    PS. The commune where I lived was a combination Zen/Taoist spiritual community/ and an actual hippie-style commune.
    We used to read a lot of poetry such as that of Basho.
    Quote An ancient pond
    A frog jumps in
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    ...once inspired me to do a water color painting of that scene, which I wish I still had!
    Those days seem unreal to me now, and it would be nice to have that reminder.
    Each breath a gift...
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