5,000yr old cave painting of alien craft in Hampi, India.

[Billy]

Posted by peterpam (here)

Billy, thanks for the great photos. I am wondering if you might be able to explain about the low er painting. For each of the larger characters, it seems they are attached by a chord that's shape is repeated twice. They are the most pronounced lines in the paintings. Can you tell what you think they are, since you actually saw the paintings?

Thanks for taking a closer look at this painting, I think this is one of the most important and informative paintings, sorry about the quality but one friend has now been in touch, he has read this thread and says he is going to send some higher resolution photos of this scene. My first impression when I was there was this being was holding some sort of net. It also seemed to hold some sort of device in it's hand. The whole bottom scene, the straight lines and all, felt like a cage of some sorts.

While we wait for better quality photos. What is anyone's first impression of the taller being ?

[Billy]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by take (here)
This could be anything [...]

Possibly a map...?

"Deciphering the exact meaning of the paintings was not easy for the experts. Reaching the site itself was an arduous task as it was surrounded by a hillock overlooking a valley and accessible only through a narrow passage.



Researchers found many similarities with the modern-day maps. The triangular marks used to represent hillocks on these maps are similar to the symbols used by surveyors.

Further, the narrow passage has been compared to the figure of a human being, while the ladder-like symbol indicates a pathway. It took Keshava and his team almost a year to confirm the findings. "

Source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repos.../28&ID=Ar00900

You are a star Atlas. This is what I was searching for. Thank you.

Does it look like a map to you.? What does it look like to you Atlas ? Maybe a human being actually is a human being. Maybe a ladder actually is a ladder. And I do not think the folks back then were aware of today's surveyors mapping symbols. all the paintings have to be taken into context together. I think there is a whole story here when they are brought together.

EDIT: because of your research skills Atlas, I have now found Mr. Keshava's contact details. The head office of ASI is in Delhi and I was searching there. Bangalore was the missing link
http://www.academia.edu/8512403/Arch...y_of_India_ASI
Top of the list.
I have emailed him and await a reply.

[Billy]

Posted by Billy (here)

Posted by peterpam (here)

Billy, thanks for the great photos. I am wondering if you might be able to explain about the low er painting. For each of the larger characters, it seems they are attached by a chord that's shape is repeated twice. They are the most pronounced lines in the paintings. Can you tell what you think they are, since you actually saw the paintings?

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Thanks for taking a closer look at this painting, I think this is one of the most important and informative paintings, sorry about the quality but one friend has now been in touch, he has read this thread and says he is going to send some higher resolution photos of this scene. My first impression when I was there was this being was holding some sort of net. It also seemed to hold some sort of device in it's hand. The whole bottom scene, the straight lines and all, felt like a cage of some sorts.

While we wait for better quality photos. What is anyone's first impression of the taller being ?

I am going to post this picture again in different resolutions and hope for some feedback from members, if anyone has the skills to play around to try and highlight any details of this picture. or can create some graphics as Marton showed in post 13, i would very much appreciate your help.

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What kind of being do you see.?

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Billy (here)
What kind of being do you see.?
I am going to post this picture again in different resolutions and hope for some feedback from members,...

Hi Billy,

Here are yours blown up with a filter added for easier viewing. I didn’t catch any wow-wow’s like in Marton’s photos.

Paula ♡

[Billy]

Posted by Billy (here)
A little update. After some intense research today, I managed to find out which organisation carried out the survey on the cave paintings and were responsible for sending the team of archaeologists to the site.
They are the Archaeological survey of India. ASI. The deputy superintendent, a Mr. T.M. Keshava was quoted in the Bangalore express in 2010 on his findings. I have not managed to find the article or a contact for Mr. Keshava but I emailed the Director General of ASI, Dr.Rakesh Tewari and requested a copy of the report. I await a reply.

Dr.Rakesh Tewari has very kindly replied to my email, but only to give contact details for Mr. Keshava in Bangalore, which I now already have thanks to Atlas. I still await a response from Mr. Keshava from the email I sent him.

[Pam]

I will be really interested in hearing what Mr. Kasheva has to say about the paintings. Please keep us posted. Thanks for the enlarged and contrasted paintings, Paula.

[Billy]

After sending two emails, So far no reply from Me. Keshava. But I have sent another email to
Director,
Culture & Archaeology
MGM Museum, Civil Lines,
Near Raj Bhawan, Raipur (C.G.)
Who surveyed the cave painting mentioned in this post. And have asked them if they would be willing to do an independent survey on the site.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1049673


My stay in Tiruvanamalai in Tamil Nadu has come to an end and I leave today to slowly head back to Mumbai for my flight home in 8 days time. I have decided to return to Hampi for a few days as it is more or less on the way to Mumbai and revisit the cave paintings. I start my 21hr train journey this evening. If anyone has any questions regarding the photos I have already posted, please ask away. I will let you know when I am ready to visit the site again.

[Billy]

I see there are no questions. I said i would inform you. I will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Billy (here)
I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time.

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago). They certainly weren't cavemen!

But you already responded to that... and yes, I'd absolutely agree that they look and feel far older. 15,000 years old, or maybe much more, might seem more like it.

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

[Billy]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Billy (here)
I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time.

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago). They certainly weren't cavemen!

But you already responded to that... and yes, I'd absolutely agree that they look and feel far older. 15,000 years old, or maybe much more, might seem more like it.

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

A Great idea Bill. I did not catch your message until I returned but I shot out to the small market and bought a dowsing crystal, I have tested it with many questioned and it was 100% correct on the yes and no answers. So when I return I shall get down to some serious questions.



I also abducted some new folks and took them with me. They did not struggle and had better camera's plus one is an artist and she is going to attempt to scretch the ant/mantis looking being tonight. There, I have said what I think the being appears to be.

[greybeard]

Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

[Billy]

I agree Chris, Sanskrit, although written later, mentions times in history that goes back hundreds of thousands of years.

Quote: https://in.answers.yahoo.com/questio...042211AAGwWDB#
The Rig Veda refers to the river Saraswati which was thought to be a mysthical one...but now proved to be an ancient river from Satellite photos that flowed about 10,000 years ago. Looking at this indisputable fact, the Rig Veda must be at least 10000 years old and the language even older. Also Dwarka was submerged during the last increase in sea levels caused by melting of the glaciers about 12,000 years ago. As Dwarka is mentioned in many Sanskrit works the language must be more than 12,000 years old.

This is why I believe the paintings are much older than 5.000yrs.
You mentioned in this thread earlier that the vimana flying machine's were not alien. Well I would say yes and no. Much like today the technology was passed on to a select few royal bloodlines. So yes, humans flew a primitive version of the much superior alien technology. Then it was kings and prince's who were allowed the technology, now it is secret governments that greedily keep the technology for themselves. But like the kings of old, they still misuse the technology today, and if they do not learn from the past, history will surely repeat itself and come back to bite them in the ass.

If they know that others know what they know. A place like Avalon can turn tide for the betterment of ALL humanity.

[Ewan]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

Hi Chris, I took the liberty of highlighting a small portion of your post as it made me chuckle. IMO the word possibly should have been probably or maybe even definitely.

[greybeard]

Posted by Ewan (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Hi Billy
Sanskrit is an extremely complex language (as written) many thousands of years old --not the language of a primitive race --quite the opposite.
I am convinced that an advanced race of humans lived on the planet long ago--possibly more advanced than us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

Chris

Hi Chris, I took the liberty of highlighting a small portion of your post as it made me chuckle. IMO the word possibly should have been probably or maybe even definitely.

I was trying to be tactful Ewan.
Definitely is more applicable.

However more advanced in what way?
Looks like they almost succeeded in destroying the human race.
We may be heading in the same direction unfortunately.

Best wishes
Chris.

[Billy]

Posted by Billy (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Billy (here)
I see there is no questions. I said i would inform you. will be revisiting the cave paintings in a few hours time.

Well, one question that still seems obvious is the dating anomaly... society in India was pretty advanced 3,000 years BC (5,000 years ago).

If this doesn't seem too wild... one option is to ask the paintings how old they are. They'll be imbued with the essence of the artists. That transcends time.

There'll still be an element of their life force in there they may answer you. It'd be interesting to ask the question in a quiet moment, and then see if you get a reply.

A Great idea Bill. I did not catch your message until I returned but I shot out to the small market and bought a dowsing crystal, I have tested it with many questioned and it was 100% correct on the yes and no answers. So when I return I shall get down to some serious questions.

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Today I revisited the cave paintings with my pendulum dowser. I must say it was very interesting and revealing. I sat and meditated for a while under the cobra painting. The cobra is inside the cave directly beneath the craft, before asking the questions.

I first asked if the paintings were older than 5000 yrs old. Answer. Yes.
Then older than 10,000. Answer. Yes.
More than 20,000 yrs. Answer. Yes
More than 30,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 40,000 yrs. Answer NO.
More than 35,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 38,000 yrs. Answer NO
More than 37,000yrs. Answer Yes.

So the answer is between 37,000 and 38,000 yrs old according to the dowsing method.
I asked many more questions, which I shall have to share later.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Billy (here)

I first asked if the paintings were older than 5000 yrs old. Answer. Yes.
Then older than 10,000. Answer. Yes.
More than 20,000 yrs. Answer. Yes
More than 30,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 40,000 yrs. Answer NO.
More than 35,000 yrs. Answer. Yes.
More than 38,000 yrs. Answer NO
More than 37,000yrs. Answer Yes.

So the answer is between 37,000 and 38,000 yrs old according to the dowsing method.

[Billy]

This is my last full day in India as I head home at 3am in the morning. This truly has been yet another awesome journey, Not only with connecting with the cave paintings but also with many other experiences I have not yet shared.

As I mentioned above, I asked many more questions when I sat underneath the Cobra. At times the crystal pendulum took on a life of it's own and when it could not answer a question the way I asked. The thin chain remained perfectly vertically still while the crystal pulled itself up and down in all directions. It went a tad crazy. Until I rephrased the question and the answer became very clear.

Questions I asked.
Is the circular painting on the ceiling above a flying craft. YES.
We're the painters documenting a abduction experience. YES.
Is the human figure inside the craft a female. YES.
We're the females impregnated. YES.
We're any of the females taken away from their families never to return. NO
Was any of the females harmed during this experience. (Crystal goes crazy, see note above)
I rephrase the question.
We're the females emotionally traumatised by the experience. YES
We're the females physically hurt by the experience. NO.
Did the females become pregnant with a hybrid child. YES
Was the fetus removed before full term pregnancy was completed. NO
The female's gave birth to a hybrid child. YES
Did the females bring up those children. (Crystal goes crazy)
I rephrase the question.
Did the females bring up the children for a period of time. YES
We're the hiybrid children taken away from the mother's after this period of time. YES.

Was the Cobra painted at the same time as the other paintings. YES. (I had some doubt until this answer)
Is the being who is abducting the females from the Ant beings. NO
Is the being who is abducting the females a Mantis Being. YES.
Just to confirm. These paintings are between 37.000 and 38.000 yrs old. YES.

That was as far as I got asking questions as the guardian of the caves had to go.
The Cobra which I believe was painted for protection by the villagers.



A side view of the cave with the Cobra inside. And above the paintings on the wall and craft on the ceiling. (The sky).



Bye for now.

[Bill Ryan]

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Well done, Billy — that is just so very fascinating. And from here, I have to say that all feels VERY plausible indeed.

[Frenchy]

Thanks Billy,
Picture Three makes me think that those 'Boulders' were placed there, was this a wall ? esp as one seems to rectangular to be natural...

To all, A valuable website (imho) is ' EarthAfterFlood.com' created by a Russian, who is very sharing, knowledgeable, after the manner of Eric Von Daniken...

[Billy]

Thank you Frenchy. I apologise for taking so long to answer which is all down to the transition period due to returning back to Scotland from an incredible journey in India.

The official story concerning the rock formations in Hampi is that it is all natural formations made by nature. Which is at times hard to comprehend when you see layered straight lines within the formations. Hampi's mythology stretches back many thousands of years.
http://hampi.in/hampi-boulders

Some examples.layered boulders.


Amazing balancing acts.




An update. I took a lovely couple with me to the paintings. A lady named Andrea and her Indian husband. She snapped over 400 photos and has now sent me around 200 of those, the quality is far better than the ones I posted from my tablet. I will be posting a few of those soon.