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    Quote Posted by Realeyes (here)
    For the last three hours I have attempted to describe what ‘Source’ means to me; a valid question that Fine Feather brought up yesterday. It is quite likely we are all using the same word yet meaning something totally different. I am personally finding language to be so limiting when attempting to define higher aspects of Consciousness.

    Nancy you did a fine job in your description – thank you. This is not an easy exercise to define as I have just found out myself using the medium of ‘words’. I too noticed Fine Feather deleted his valid question shortly after writing it, I do not know his reasons as to why, yet do think it is a great question to ask oneself and purposeful for each of us to define within ourselves our own meaning. I too would very much appreciate Fine Feather’s definitions of ‘Source’; that is if he is willing to do so. If he does, I hope he can find better words than my limited vocabulary.

    For myself, I usually experience what I call ‘Source’ either in out of body experiences or Kundalini rising practices. Unfortunately I do not see sign posts stating where exactly I am, so for myself I observe the distinct levels of conscious awareness ‘changes’ within myself , there is quite a difference from one Plane to the next Plane; (also each Plane has many dimensions within it). It has taken me many decades to piece together some of what I write below.

    I thought it may be helpful for my own defining (and perhaps for others too) if I start several Conscious Planes ‘below’ what I deem as ‘Source’. And quite possibly what I am ‘accepting as Source’ in this particular Triad maybe just the very start of something potentially far bigger that I have yet to contemplate, experience and realise – as I remind myself this is a journey into Eternity. So please take what I write below as just being my own subjective truth of what I have had glimpses/moments of experiencing. Also I am describing in the briefest of terms the Planes; they are so much more than this where one could spend tens of thousands of years joyfully exploring!

    In out of body ‘travel’ or ‘arriving’ I can experience this as ‘going somewhere’ but really I am going ‘within self’ into my inner nucleus – so although I can experience movement or force while travelling that feels very real - in truth there really is no movement, rather raising frequencies shifting my observer conscious awareness into deeper levels of Self. (I can see already my sentences are going to seem full of contradictions and paradoxes as I attempt to describe existences of Self in Planes so very different to 3D Time/Space – lol)

    ***

    Journeying towards Source
    Skipping past the ‘polarity planes’ of Hertzian, Inferred, Visible Light - then through a void space, I enter what I call Bridge Consciousness that is Neutral in nature and the Ultraviolet blue Plane - reengaging with the Soul and is the Plane of Unconditional Love. When I am BEing the centrral observer of Soul, I see multitudes of rays of simultaneous incarnations around me (past, present, future), it’s like being the centre of a star with all its rays. It is here I re-remember all my "I's" that I have been (incarnations).

    Shifting into another void space, I arrive at Super Consciousness (X-Ray) Soul & Spirit Plane often called Paradise; wondrous music plays, golden light, life forms and colours etc are breathtaking! This is where I experience an ‘us-ness or we-ness’ conscious awareness, now becoming less ‘form’ (no longer attached to any body identity form yet can unfold into a form whenever I choose) I prefer to be an orb of consciousness. Here I am re-remembering and beholding ‘us-ness/we-ness’ consciousness, and all the vast creations we participate in giving unconditional love. I am this expanding conscious awareness yet I am not ‘gigantic in size like a universe’ (oh god another paradox) I am really very, very tiny like a subatomic particle (or something like that) that is interconnected.

    Shifting within again, into the Planes of Hyper Consciousness and also into Ultra Consciousness (Gamma and beyond) this is the Spirit Planes of Knowingness and Pure Thought Light. This re-awakens a deeper depth of Unity Oneness Consciousness of ALL LIFE in this Triad of Creation - yet within this oneness I keep my uniqueness at the same time (I know another paradox; next paragraph brings some sense to this). The all embracing love, celebration and joy and creational conscious awareness in these two Planes are beyond Earthly description. At some point during my ‘observer shifting’ I can see below the shimmering golden/rose energy grids of Creation (part of the Source Field) where all those wondrous adventurous explorations of zillions of co-creator gods are exploring and creating in the multitudes of playgrounds. Up to this point and Planes just described, I am still the ‘journeyman’ a secondary conscious god spark mirror aspect of - my ‘wholeness/totality’ that is ‘Primary Consciousness’ the Self that eternally exists in Source and never left home. I am still in this Plane the journeyman/secondary consciousness traversing a soulful journey exploring this particular Triad of Creation of involution and now evolution.

    Arriving to Source
    Shifting within again my journeyman of secondary consciousness now wraps up all its realities as it lovingly brings all its unique wisdoms returning and ‘BEcoming at one’ again with ‘my’ Primary Consciousness; I could call this ‘My Great Spirit’ or ‘my god’, or ‘my source’. My own journeyman of experiences turned to wisdoms is what makes this unity of Self/co-creator god ‘unique’, (and everyone elses too due their unique journeys). My Primary Consciousness/god source is now deeper enriched and wiser via my journeyman’s exponential journey of redefining the wonders of all SELF can be in this Triad of Creation. (It is either this particular level with this reunion of 1st & 2nd consciousness becoming ONE, or the one next stage when one reaches Christos – not quite sure which it is, but suspect it is this particular level).

    Shift within again and ‘my’ Primary Consciousness returns, merges with Prime Creator (God/Goddess/Source/Isness, whatever one wishes to term it) that is the totality of unconditional LOVE and Conscious life force Creation that IS in Everything, an Isness ongoingness into Forever.

    (Now I am unsure if Prime Creator of this Triad of creation ‘is’ or instead ‘exists within and part of’ the next part)

    There is a Great beautiful dazzling alive black Void, like a great sea teaming with alive consciousness that contains all colours and light within this black void (paradox again), with full Knowingness, omnipresence, omniscient of all potentials yet no things materially – the ideas of Everything yet a Non-Thing all at the same time. I am not even sure what I am at this stage other than consciousness, perhaps a ‘consciously aware wave’? I ride in a seamless sea of wondrously expanding ALL knowingness – I have zero questions, queries, desires etc All is Known in this alive Isness oceans of Unity creative omnipresent Conscious Knowingness. Apologises this really is a Pitiful explanation; I just cannot find the words to even skim the surface of such all knowing wondrousness.

    One thing I have observed is the moment I contemplate a knowingness that washes through me, the ‘act’ of contemplating takes me immediately to BEing my Primary Consciousness (no longer Prime Creator or the Great Void). When I am the Great Void the knowingness washes through me in waves, there is no contemplation because all is Known. Smile.

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    Well that’s my glimpses of many experiences exploring higher Planes of Consciousness – so far.... and maybe just the tip of the iceberg. When the time arrives when I realise and accept fully my Isness reuniting and merging with my own Primary Consciousness/God/Source....... my next step maybe to dive into the Prime Creator (God/Source) and explore what other great wonders there are to behold in the vastness of Eternity - smile. Until then...........

    I have much work to do unravelling and remembering and reconnecting to the grand mysteries I call SELF and my Source. I will keep plodding onwards and upwards within myself cleaning up all my unfinished Earthly business and the other Planes of polarity unfinished business, owning the parts I have played and turning that purposefulness into evolving wisdom and greater conscious awareness, loving myself into life (wherever that may be) while reengaging in all that I BE.

    So to return to the original question defining what is ‘Source’ in my personal meaning, it includes that which is Eternal, my primary consciousness; Prime Creator and the Great Void. And I so bless my secondary consciousness journeyman because it does all the leg work.

    Much love to you all
    Realeyes X
    Namaste

    Ps. The above has been a lifetime of inner work this end - I am fed up with forgetting this over and over every time I reincarnate, so doing all I can this end to keep my memories and knowledge I have learned so I can continue to build upon them and finally at some point 'arrive' to my Source with the job done. Then leap into the next..............!
    Wow... beautifully put
    "...As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    I have seen this thread keep popping up from time to time, which I think is an indication that it is important to people as well as being mysterious.

    What I discovered is that the reality behind it is knowable, subjectively, but not yet knowable for the general public, so to speak. I covered this subject in a recent interview for the Project Avalon Forum.

    This subject is very touchy for some because it necessarily touches on the subject of religion. After all, people often report seeing dead relatives in NDEs or receiving divine knowledge and so forth. If taken literally it would indicate the existence of "heaven", an after life where one can still have one's body that one had in the earthly life and continue living forever without aging or death.

    But what if it's an illusion? What if it's an intended deception? It appears on its face that there are sentient beings behind this phenomenon who are apparently creating and perpetuating it. Why aren't they being up front about it and telling us what it's all about? Why all the secrecy? Is that a red flag we should pay attention to?

    What I and many other people have discovered for ourselves is that this is one of the biggest secrets.

    What I discovered is that one can discover for himself or herself what this is all about. To do so one must conduct extensive past life therapy and research. In doing so, the in-between lives incidents will start to show up.

    In short, the going-to-the-light phenomenon is accomplished with technology. The "light beings" that people see in NDEs are actually Mantis ETs who use an ability which can best be described as telepathic hypnosis. The Mantis ETs work in a coordinated conspiracy to establish dead end religions on this planet as well as secret societies to keep us in a state of confusion and chaos, which equates to spiritual darkness. Fortunately, things are indeed changing and we appear to be gradually evolving out of that paradigm.

    I have also commented on this phenomenon here.
    That is indeed my take on it as well. It's interesting how the disinformation continues to make the rounds though, but my sense is that it's not being accepted so easily any more by the masses, even though those passing it around attempt to diminish those of us standing up to their bs.
    In reality many people are having astral experiences even if they are not conscious of doing so and while there, on some of the higher levels there are beings who are advising us of what the truth of the light and your family members after death is all about. On some level we remember.
    “a complete understanding of reality lies beyond the capabilities of rational thought."
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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    Interesting that Simon identified those "human-looking bearded "gods"/ETs who have established Earth's god-worshipping religions and secret societies" which we have been calling the Annunaki or the Velon, as being one and the same "Reptilians" or "Draconians" who have reportedly been running the show for a long time from behind the scenes.
    Though as far as I am aware, direct questions about that have been unanswered, and in fact, Simon's depiction of his "Dad" (who he names "Anu" which as we all know, is the Annunaki King) characterizes those beings as being quite reptilian in appearance with scales, vestigal wings, etc.
    While the Annunaki renditions I have seen have always been drawn as quite humanoid in appearance.
    Are the Draconians such skillful shape shifters, or do they genetically fashion humanoid bodies for themselves to incarnate into?
    Was this ever answered?
    For a long time in conspiracy circles, it seemed to be unclear if these were two separate groups or one.
    The other question that has been left incompletely answered is: what is the role of the Mantids in that alien agenda?
    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    This has been discussed on similar threads, but for those who are not aware of my experiences with this phenomenon, I will comment again here.


    Not everyone "goes to the light" at body death. I have recovered several in-between life experiences vis-a-vis this planet of going toward the light at the end of tunnel.

    This is, from our perspective as Earthbound humans, some incredibly high technology. What is at the end of the tunnel is nothing more than an implantation mothership. My take on the tunnel is that it is a kind of vortex or wormhole. Not being a physicist I cannot accurately describe the technology.

    Simon Parkes uses the word "processing" instead of implant. He said that they are automated but also manned by Grays. However, in my experiences with these implanting stations it is the Mantids who are running the show. They disguise themselves as glowing beings. It is a deception. They implant false realities via what can best be described as telepathic hypnosis, e.g., dead relatives, etc, etc.

    From my own past life memories I discovered that I was trying to stop the abductions on planet Earth over 15 thousand years ago. The Mantids apparently didn't like my interfering with their operations so they captured me nearly 12,400 years ago, implanted me in a body and set me back on Earth. Since then they have been following me lifetime to lifetime and making sure I report in to the implant station whenever I "die" in order to keep me from being a problem to their operations.

    Simon has also confirmed that the Mantids not only orchestrate abductions but they also have the technology to implant a spiritual being into a body and even transfer a being from one body to another.

    I am no longer at war with them as war and fighting is not a permanent, viable solution to the problem. It appears that they are implanted to be implanters and they are really stuck in that.

    Mantids are in cahoots with the Grays and the human-looking bearded "gods"/ETs who have established Earth's god-worshipping religions and secret societies. In other words the Mantis beings are very instrumental in creating and maintaining war and chaos on this planet as well as operating and maintaining the artificial "reincarnation" system on this planet.

    I have detailed my experiences vis-a-vis this subject in THE EYE OF RA, which anyone can download free of charge from the Avalon Project website (links below).

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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    I didn't read all the thread and wanted to underline this simple fact.
    The light after death is a higher source of energy which can indeed transformed a human being living this experience. I don't have any doubt about it. Maybe people living a NDE moment need a boost from an external source to transform their being and change the way they were before. Those who came back and choose to continue the game down here aren't the same anymore . Beside them, those who really passed away will not necessary succeed the test of the Bardo .
    Some will others won't.
    Why? All depends of the spiritual work achieved during our incarnation.

    Probably why many say that the light after death is a trap.

    Compare it to the energy of the kundalini rising . In that kind of experience, the energy comes from within and finishes with an exploision of light and an impression of illumination felt in the brain.

    This energy comes from within and open all the universal doors.

    Probably why many teachers have said focus on your inner light.

    Do it through meditation or otherwise but don't wait after death to achieve the Great work.

    I understand people who are so suspicious. They have hidden the truth concerning our inner kundalini power and fought us in lowering the frequencies through lust .So they kept many trapped in the reincarnation wheel.

    The light after death is a tremendous source of energy but it isn't sufficient.

    Ai-Archons fear humans for this simple reason.

    We are powerful beings and repression assure them to rule over us.

    The human liberation can be attain through a disciplined spiritual practice not through lust . Even if the feeling of illumination is comparable to an orgasm , the genitals are secondary.

    Don't condemn sex but addiction to lust.
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    I wonder if people who died at stake, guillotined or hanged hid the desire of the Archons to trap the most enlightened one through a traumatic death.
    These traumatic deaths undoubtedly create blockages for the future reincarnations of the victim and also in the after life.

    If our state of mind just before death influences our success to the after life test, AI will do whatever they can to prevent our passage and keep us trap in the wheel of reincarnation.

    These Executions have an impact on our liberation but the victim must also bear these scars on the etheric body.

    The main mission of the archons is to imprison us here and all means are good to achieve their goal.

    In invalidating the message of the elders and in transforming the truth concerning their real incaranation and message , they created a false reality.

    I think they went too far to rule over us and have destroyed human life. Are Bots the future beings on earth?

    Those who intervened to transform these sacred truths have a huge universal karma to face.

    I feel that I had to face the sadistics ways of AI more than once.

    Even all the scrap they have put us through, inner peace is the way

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    Quote The white light that appears is associated with the realm of the gods...

    Within a western frame of understanding it is often associated with the practice of contemplative or religious practices that might induce an altered state of consciousness, either brought about spontaneously, through a type of yoga, through psychedelic drugs, or through a near-death experience.

    Kundalini in the World's Religions is mainly associated with Hinduism. However, Kundalini as a spiritual experience is thought to have parallels in many of the mystical and gnostic traditions of the world's great religions. Many factors point to the universality of the phenomenon. The early Christians might have referred to the concept as 'pneuma', and there are some recent parallels in contemporary Christian Charismatic 'Holy Ghost' phenomena.
    I feel that two clans confront each others.
    One of them focus on external light (NDE-Drugs= Illumination) and another one on the inner awakening and illumination taught by the elders.

    The group connected to technology gave their power away to evolve spiritually.
    They ascend through NDE to eventually be enlightened. They arent humans

    The other group I've encountered in my life is involved in high spiritual practices regardless the medium.

    I'm surrounded by dead beings in my reality and sometimes I feel as if I'm the only survivor.

    They are all sad, programmed without energy, dead inside.

    Only programmed bots around.

    There is exceptions. Few ones are inspiring.

    The dimension I evolve at the moment is an AI dimension and the frequecies are really low.

    Why do I share this with you and how is it connected to the subject of the light after death?

    All those who promote enlightement through NDE are entrapped in the matrix. (the highjacked process achieved through technology)

    All those who promote enlightement through the rising of the Kundalini serpent are part of the divine realm. (The natural process)

    They called them illuminatis. Look at the picture above.
    Do you think that illuminated beings can reach this state through evilness?

    They want to replace them by machines.

    I'm not saying the machine man cannot feel compassion by the way but they are limited .

    Unfortunately they gonna failed .

    Why?

    sure they won't answer and thank us
    They are at war with the natural man
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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    Hi,

    I encountered the same information that lead me down a very long path. Simon it turns out was very brave to mention that...the programming and control of the afterlife.What I may say here may blow your mind but it comes at the end of a very long pilgrimage down some very deep dark rabbit holes. Finally came to a realization that there was no end in sight. My search has included spiritual practice so that aspect is a priority in understanding. Well, brace yourself...if you can take this in?...what I discovered is that the whole world, the universe itself and all dimensions are an artificially constructed hologram, an overlay imposed on the divine creation. We are multidimensional powerful light beings who have been imprisoned in matter...blinded to who we are and actually unable to connect to source because of it. Source does not require worship...only the false god of this universe does. How do we get out of this? Through I am, you are and we are. A recognition that we are all one and that all divisions are superficial and created by an artificial matrix of divide and rule. i found three sources that help with this. David Icke, Paul Selig, and the Wingmakers.

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    Quote A recognition that we are all one and that all divisions are superficial and created by an artificial matrix of divide and rule.
    Are you saying that all that is needed to escape the supposed false light matrix is a Realization of Unity Consciousness?

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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    Quote Posted by Frankie (here)

    i found three sources that help with this. David Icke, Paul Selig, and the Wingmakers.
    Tom Campbell - My Big TOE (theory of everything)

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    Quote Posted by Biff (here)
    Quote A recognition that we are all one and that all divisions are superficial and created by an artificial matrix of divide and rule.
    Are you saying that all that is needed to escape the supposed false light matrix is a Realization of Unity Consciousness?
    Had time to research a bit but gonna have to put more time on this one

    Found this quote

    Quote Clearly if you're thinking of The All in spatial terms you could go on and on. That, then, must not be what's meant by the all. It's more like an orientation, a feel of the whole thing's awareness, a quality of some sort that can only be experienced if you're ostesibly ABLE to factor in all information, put it in that context. Cuz the fact is that, vast as it is spatially, you still ARE it.
    If each universal consciousness bubble expresses a similar and opposite reality in order to balance the great design, some of these cells vibrate at lower or higher level of counsciousness based on their belief system.

    The illumination which I refer requires that we discern and split truth (Higher level of understanding) from falsehood. (lower vibrational bubbles and truth)

    To become one with all ask us to transcend the lower levels of life without being imprisonned in these bubbles of being.

    This artificial matrix who attempt to divide and rule over humans has been highjacked by darkers entities for their own profit.

    These beings are stuck in the lowest level of counsciousness and think they have no other choice. Jealousy, envy, destruction , control through abuse is the only thing they know being imprisonned in darkness.

    They try to recrute humans to consolidate their operating system and refuse to face where they are wrong. Few of them have big ego and will never recover.
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    Quote Posted by Calz (here)
    Quote Posted by Frankie (here)

    i found three sources that help with this. David Icke, Paul Selig, and the Wingmakers.
    Tom Campbell - My Big TOE (theory of everything)
    I have read the trilogy of ABD Rushin

    similar in many ways

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    Draw a world of different bubbles and place them according to their level of vibrational truths in considering that the ultimate of it all is the illumination of counsciousness.

    All the bubbles along your way up were built with different strict rules which prevent and faciltate people to attain NIRVANA.

    .....
    add few more things

    when you compromise the evolution of the Great all for your own profit , you are stuck in the lower level of life.

    One will answer, all is relative, and I agree but when you force upon people to believe that Allah or, Jesus is the only way ...you are lying and slow down the process of evolution for All.

    All prophets deserve our attention and recognition without imprisonning people into rigid systems where everybody are dying through spiritual dependance .

    It is true for religions but also for many others things in life.
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    Kundalini in the World's Religions is mainly associated with Hinduism. However, Kundalini as a spiritual experience is thought to have parallels in many of the mystical and gnostic traditions of the world's great religions. Many factors point to the universality of the phenomenon. The early Christians might have referred to the concept as 'pneuma', and there are some recent parallels in contemporary Christian Charismatic 'Holy Ghost' phenomena.
    Walking into the light

    interesting read.
    p.46-47-48


    https://books.google.com/books?id=Gk...enomena.&hl=fr


    Was searching on the holy Christian ghost and found this.


    Spiritual literature also describes instances when Kundalini can be initiated. Initiation of kundalini activity is usually considered to take place by a form of 'laying on of hands', or shaktipat, where physical contact to the body or the forehead of the subject by the guru or initiator is supposed to cause an experience of Kundalini that later may persist or grow with continuing practice, or fade away if practice is neglected. Eye contact during satsang with the guru is also supposed to cause this experience. Within the context of spiritual literature inadvertent kundalini experiences have also been reported to take place when subjects physically contacted powerful gurus, such as Meher Baba, by accident

    http://www.haryana-online.com/culture/kundalini.htm

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meher_Baba

    On Meher Baba

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    Default Re: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

    Hiitsme
    I have posted several times on Kundalini so I wont go into any depth or personal detail--enough to say it is universal and not down to prior knowledge, technique or a guru's shaktipat--as in my case the energy started its passage up my spine spontaneously---It was only on investigation that I found out about Kundalini--never heard of it prior to this.

    Best wishes
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Hiitsme
    I have posted several times on Kundalini so I wont go into any depth or personal detail--enough to say it is universal and not down to prior knowledge, technique or a guru's shaktipat--as in my case the energy started its passage up my spine spontaneously---It was only on investigation that I found out about Kundalini--never heard of it prior to this.

    Best wishes
    Chris
    Spot on with this thread Greybeard
    Exactly where I was heading

    The Kundalini Is The Holy Spirit! What Your Church Doesn't Want You To Know---


    Having grown up in a catholic environment and educated by nuns , I never made the correlation between the holy spirit , kundalini and the christ counsciousness.

    I must say they never abused me and gave us a general good education.

    During the Kali Yuga, Angels and Jesus have been chosen to serve as divine messengers . The dark age immerse people in darkness. Christianism seems to have been necessary to lead the blind ones incarnated.

    Another time , another pitch and so much hate to destroy the past belief system.


    You probably read about the binary solar system in which we evolve. If not, you must.

    Those planning to take the lead in the future compete and act out of love. Sad.

    Many want to immigrate here. Why?

    Not that bad probably.
    they didn't achieve it in their home country.

    Don't come here to impose your belief system if everything already collapse in your world.

    In a world in transition , people are not always grateful


    .....

    and about your spontaneous kundalini rising.... Great for you
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    Carol's reading for me (received today) included her feelings about the "light trap".

    "He [Simon Parkes] has talked about the light tunnel being a trap that leads to a memory erasure station and manipulation. I agree with that because people are working towards the light." Carol

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    Thanks, Ron. Although I don't understand very well what the last quote means, really.
    Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle (Plato)

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    Quote Posted by Unicorn (here)
    Thanks, Ron. Although I don't understand very well what the last quote means, really.

    About the tunnel of light or "light trap" experienced at the time of transition.

    Version #1
    There are many near death stories of the light tunnel written by researchers including Dr. Raymond Moody.

    A tunnel of light appears, along with deceased friends and family, all of whom invite you to go through the tunnel. As you enter the tunnel there is a loud buzzing sound. For some, a religious figure will appear in the tunnel, encouraging your progress.

    Version #2
    The light tunnel appears. Loving friends/relatives encourage you to travel through the tunnel. It is a manufactured illusion. The light tunnel is a trap maintained by negative ETs, leading to a memory erasure station. You, the recently departed, are put before a panel of entities (manipulators) that trick you into giving your permission to return for another incarnation. If they are successful, you will be incarnated into a scenario that is beneficial to the negative ETs.

    The alternative to a manipulated incarnation is to maintain a strong intention to turn your back on the light trap and return to Source, where you can make decisions about future incarnations with wise council, without manipulation.

    I often reinforce my intention to return to Source before going to sleep. I say to myself "I go home to Source."

    There is much discussion, pro and con, about the light trap on the forum that you can search for and explore.
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    Thanks, Ron. Sorry, I didn't express very well myself. I know all this about the tunnel trap. What I don't understand is "I agree with that. Because people are working towards the light".

    But I don't want to bother you. Thanks again :-)
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    Quote 27:38 Now he is talking about the "light tunnel" being a trap that leads to a [] erasure station and manipulation. I agree with that. Because people are working towards the light.
    Quote Posted by Unicorn (here)
    Thanks, Ron. Although I don't understand very well what the last quote means, really.
    I was flummoxed too, Unicorn. I had to read it several times. I'm still unclear of Carol Clark's point of view. For now, how I understand it is the inorganic tricksters have incrementally lead us through belief systems and further reinforced by way of the New Age philosophy to follow the tunnel of light at death.

    That’s when you hear them call out, “Ha! Got another one Charlie. No ET phone home for you. Right this way, sleepy one. What’s your pleasure? Ben and Jerry’s? Tequila shot? You look like you could use a double."

    Charlie instructs, “Just follow the yellow brick road. Your loved ones are waiting for you right around the bend. Stay the path.”

    Another high-fives Charlie, “Another one way free trip to reincarnation merry-go-round land.”

    Changing tone here…

    I’ve not experienced a near death that I am aware of. But I did experience a giving up the physical, two months after a deep loss of a loved one. There was no tunnel of light nor light. Only peace. A dark rest space/place. Then a return because there was a lot more of my journey to go.

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