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    Greetings World

    We are Modern Age Realists

    Our goal is to spread the truth , to end the evil reign of illusions that are separating us , illusions like nations , boarders , racism , religion , nationalism. Modern Age Realism is more than an idea , more than a movement. It is a state of mind where one can see the reality as it really is. Than a person is able to see the difference between the reality and illusion , to understand what is a lie and what is the truth, to be able to see the difference between good and evil and to see real virtues.

    We have a question for you.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT CHANCE IS THERE FOR EARTH TO UNITE? By Unite i mean no nations , religions , boarders ...

    I Think we could make United Earth if we want to , if humans were no sheeps...

    HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE AND HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST?
    UNITED WE STAND

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    So would this also mean no leaders to lead this endeavor?

    No countries no leaders, right?

    If there is going to be a paradigm shift, it needs to be complete otherwise it is just the same package wrapped with a new bow.

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    Dude I believe this is referred to as the new world order.
    Soooo just throwing this out there but most folks consider this a bad idea.
    Just saying.

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    You know the answer already . As long as it takes for everyone to be friends , naturally .
    Till there will be people who will insist on wrong ideologies and insist that 'being human' means to be in war with other humans , tribes , nations and countless other differences
    and the idea of unity and brotherhood will continue to be mistaken for some 'nwo' forceful threat of divided, genetically enhanced human program in hands of few controllers ,
    there won't be peace .

    The time=line is in human hands , totally . Future is not written in stone ..that's how we discern 'future' . It's not yet . And maybe , it never comes . But something else, new and marvellous is going to happen .


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    Vektor, a warm welcome to AF, I wish you a Wonderful Spiritual and Scientific Journey here!

    May you share the philosophy of Modern Age Realists?, and how do you see this philosophy being implanted?

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    It COULD happen 'In the blink of an eye'....

    And... It 'would last a thousand years'

    IF WE WANT IT.

    In Unity, Peace and Love
    “A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.”
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    Quote Posted by Vektor (here)
    Greetings World

    We are Modern Age Realists

    Our goal is to spread the truth , to end the evil reign of illusions that are separating us , illusions like nations , boarders , racism , religion , nationalism. Modern Age Realism is more than an idea , more than a movement. It is a state of mind where one can see the reality as it really is. Than a person is able to see the difference between the reality and illusion , to understand what is a lie and what is the truth, to be able to see the difference between good and evil and to see real virtues.

    We have a question for you.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT CHANCE IS THERE FOR EARTH TO UNITE? By Unite i mean no nations , religions , boarders ...

    I Think we could make United Earth if we want to , if humans were no sheeps...

    HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE AND HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST?
    Welcome to Avalon Vektor.

    A United Earth/People, absolutely, but a One World Government, One World Banking/Financial System, One World Religion, absolutely not.

    I don't know anything about your Modern Age Realists movement, but if it works toward uniting people without uniting the current control structures it has a chance.
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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    I think that some form of nationalism is valid. Not so much the kind that attacks neighbors for some territory, but the kind that takes pride in and preserves culture. Removing borders might tend to erase that. Miscegenation wipes out cultures the same as violence.

    There's also an enigma that governments, lousy as they may be, can offer us some protection from other citizens. Sadly, there are still plenty of regular people who will continue to commit all sorts of crimes unless stopped. It's not just the rich and powerful. Dangerous individuals and gangs are everywhere.

    I definitely support a paradigm shift but at the same time, I require a structure to administer justice.

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Dude I believe this is referred to as the new world order.
    Soooo just throwing this out there but most folks consider this a bad idea.
    Just saying.
    careful, remember the MO of the baddies... take something good and corrupt it.

    Honestly, most of their goals SHOULD be our goals, but they approach it in a manner that is unacceptable, but only due to their twisted implementation of it.

    I think nationalism is a disease.. it shouldn't matter where you are from on this planet, I'm ok with "planetism" for now (only because I question the existence of other planetary visitors).

    I don't think this one is cut and dry (like basically evrything).
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
    Where are you?

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    It can happen but it will be a slow process, the structures that have been in place for years to control us must be dismantled, but in a way that the sheep can digest it without freaking out and seeking a new leader to save them from thinking or acting, none of this can take place with the psychopaths in power, as soon as we start jailing these scumbags the better, because they are cowards and as soon as we start scooping these parasites up they will start turning on each other, they will never stop until they get what they want.

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    "I Think we could make United Earth if we want to , if humans were no sheeps..."

    Many blessings Vektor

    Perhaps you have identified one of the larger problems ?

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    Welcome Vektor!
    What a first thread!
    Sounds fantastic, could you develope farder? I'l love to hear you. So far Contribucionism by Ubuntu (Michael Tellinger) is the only world wide serious movement .
    Looking forward to know more.
    Define reality?
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    Hi Vektor. I think we can approach a planetary wide aspect of togerthness when the majority have passed this stage.


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    Who ever is elevated in consciousness enough to make a global effect on all its people is how the world will change. Who ever devotes one life to doing this will achieve a global transformation. Creating a domino effect that cannot be stopped. The one may be sacrificed for the good of all but then again he or she would live on forever. Nothing is for sure, but it all starts with a dream, a will to keep going to not settle for less but to give more to your people to see a world like how we would all like to see it.

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    Hi Vektor, welcome.

    Great answer here -

    Ewan wrote:
    Quote Hi Vektor. I think we can approach a planetary wide aspect of togerthness when the majority have passed this stage.


    Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NB2CNr692RE
    To answer your question about what the chances are, I'm going with 100%. Whether it's the effect of unity or being herded is up to each and every one of us as individuals.
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    We are imagining a world of apsolute unity , no nation doesnt mean no leaders. Every world need leaders. United World Council , where there would be a representators of every race of humans , which will prevent racism. This is one solution but if that time comes we will be able to make maybe a better decision who our leaders would be. Important thing is that our leader must be the one whose idea is same as the idea of United Earth ... same goal , to fight against corrupt and against illusions that are surounding us today.
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    Quote Posted by Vektor (here)
    Greetings World

    We are Modern Age Realists

    Our goal is to spread the truth , to end the evil reign of illusions that are separating us , illusions like nations , boarders , racism , religion , nationalism. Modern Age Realism is more than an idea , more than a movement. It is a state of mind where one can see the reality as it really is. Than a person is able to see the difference between the reality and illusion , to understand what is a lie and what is the truth, to be able to see the difference between good and evil and to see real virtues.

    We have a question for you.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK WHAT CHANCE IS THERE FOR EARTH TO UNITE? By Unite i mean no nations , religions , boarders ...

    I Think we could make United Earth if we want to , if humans were no sheeps...

    HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE AND HOW LONG WOULD IT LAST?
    It would go very fast and last forever. Once peace is achieved there is nobody that wants anything heavier, with peace comes unlimitation and freedom and that is something people would never ever want to lose again. Once you are in that state of being you feel complete. So it would be written in stone. And that is only the beginning at that point. Life from that point would be like a summer breeze, like a constant inner echo of happiness. Why? Because everything explodes in beauty, perfectness, synchronicity and love. The being in the state of that level of truth, is like that. It is an emotional depth beyond your wildest imagination. It is like a small child holding strongly to its parent when it is scared, the inner emotional grip onto the truth is similar to that. In that state of being, with that level of clear and true emotion that you have found you do everything not to lose that again. Then after that comes the time of "falling into love", which is when you let go of the grip, you are free, forever.

    Earth has a vibration. When the people reaches peace, everything changes because the earth's vibration changes as a result of that peace. Although it looks similar to this earth, it feels very different, because the whole vibration is "slower" - in peace. You are light, like a child. And it is as if the whole earth "sings", not winds of air, winds of peace, it is a very soft fresh warm and beautiful type of experience. It is just that it is beyond that in a way that cannot be described. The truth unlocks the consciousness in ways you've never experienced before. In a dense reality where peace has not fully manifested yet, the consciousness is wrapped inside of lies, it's as if your senses are blocked without you being aware of it.
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    We are imagining a world of apsolute unity , no nation doesnt mean no leaders. Every world need leaders. United World Council
    How's that going to work with people like me who don't want leaders, how is that unity? Teachers - fine, guides - cool, elders - great, but leaders - no thanks. There's not a human in existence, who believes we need to be lead, who I trust for that position.

    Quote where there would be a representators of every race of humans
    Um...we're all the one race.

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    It's very much an age-old problem.

    I would not doubt for a second that those who seek peace and enlightenment are already united, and have always been so. Why are they dominated? Our challenge is to conquer the world, not by force but from within.

    There are ancient institutions already established for this purpose, such as Buddhist sangha and Craft Masonry. There are others who are perhaps more effective by being focused on small areas. In the physical world it comes down to issues of property and agricultural surplus. How do you deal with stateless people such as Roma or Roshyinga? How do you address natural famine?

    I think before attempting to resolve the "planetary system", it would behoove us to establish small, independent, self-sustaining communities, such as the Amish. If I don't agree with their religion, it's not my place to take it away, nor to discriminate against them in any way. In order to not be a hypocrite, I have to fully support their right to do whatever they want. If they were committing crimes it would be different, but for the past few hundred years, I don't see a major problem with Amish crime.

    Can't achieve the same thing with a general mass of people in a given area. There is no culture, no ability to self-sustain, most of them are itching for an excuse to kill off the other, on a personal level. I don't know of any fast remedy for this. It may be different in your local area, but whether in this "melting pot", or in the fairly homogeneous cities of China, ordinary people are quite vicious.

    The existing form of the United Nations might be fine, if its policies were totally re-written and major institutions such as the I. M. F. were abolished. One thing that inspires me is that the crowd who either started the deception intentionally, or blindly followed as participants, is starting to die off. Of course, it pulls in new recruits constantly, but the more it is exposed the better. Quit funding it. Quit paying taxes into the system. Boycott everything related to it. Look to the seven or eight remaining countries not under its heel. They may be quite draconian towards their own citizens; but I can see how that may be necessary for their independent survival.

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    Dude I believe this is referred to as the new world order.
    Soooo just throwing this out there but most folks consider this a bad idea.
    Just saying.
    careful, remember the MO of the baddies... take something good and corrupt it.

    Joseph Stalin did a pretty good job of that. I'm afraid all movements that hope to centralize some kind of world think are doomed to be corrupted by someone who sees the opportunity. I wish it wasn't the case, but I'm a student of human nature and I just do not see this ending anytime soon.



    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Honestly, most of their goals SHOULD be our goals, but they approach it in a manner that is unacceptable, but only due to their twisted implementation of it.

    I think nationalism is a disease.. it shouldn't matter where you are from on this planet, I'm ok with "planetism" for now (only because I question the existence of other planetary visitors).

    I don't think this one is cut and dry (like basically evrything).
    That Nationalism part sounded like something Bill Hicks would say. He is my hero as he is many other's hero as well.
    I'm not big on Nationalism either, but I'm even more against the idea of the world being governed under a single centralized government.
    The centralization of power is the root of all evil in my opinion.


    It is a nice dream, but there will always be somebody there to mess it up.


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