United Earth

[Vektor]

If the way of Unity is without a leader , then let it be.

[Eram]

Posted by TargeT (here)

I think nationalism is a disease.

Not necessarily.
It all depends on what form it takes.

When in balance:

Posted by shaberon (here)
I think that some form of nationalism is valid. Not so much the kind that attacks neighbors for some territory, but the kind that takes pride in and preserves culture.

When out of balance and becoming an outlet for existential fears, it can become a monster.

In any case, nationalism is inevitable and a natural element of the human condition.

[kirolak]

TargeT, you have hit the nail on the thumb - nationalism IS a disease, along with speciesism, racism, & all other -isms. . . well expressed!

As long as "we" see ourselves as separate from "them", or better than "them", or more or even LESS than "them", there will be discord. . . . . ego & or bodily identification seem to be the root of all 3D problems.

If one succeeds in dehumanizing or de-conscientizing any other Being, it is that much easier to destroy them, denigrate them, or disregard their sentient awareness. . . . & "the death of any being diminishes us all" (can't remember source of quote)

Yet it is not the private, personal death , but a public, violent, invasive act that seeks to victimize, humiliate & hurt. . . . .

What do we identify with? And why? Seem to be very valid questions (to be answered in private meditation, not public debate), & something we should all wrestle with in the caves of our secret selves.

[Vektor]

From a sector where I come from , nationalism is at its highest stage ... it is very hard to fight against it , because people are like sheeps ( no insult to the species ). They follow blind leaders and most of them will die for that illusion... But it is worth fighting it

[shaberon]

Posted by kirolak (here)
TargeT, you have hit the nail on the thumb - nationalism IS a disease, along with speciesism, racism, & all other -isms. . . well expressed!

I tend to think "-isms" are a disease--for completely different reasons. In that mostly, there isn't even really such a thing. I would say they are blanket terms which hide the full details of a much more complex situation.

Convenient labels to push buttons, stoke anger and fear.

Just call someone a racist and then everyone will line up taking sides! Discarding that person. The best they can do is waste a bunch of time trying to shrug it off. The other side denounces them, ignores and buries the issues which will just come up again later.

For example, if we look at the last absolute monarchy to establish a constitution, Bhutan. This kingdom had and continues to have policies to repress and deport people that are not of Bhutanese nationality--Bhutanese heritage and culture. It won't accomplish much to call them racists, nationalists, etc., beyond the aforementioned. Now as to why the Nepalis and Indians may have trouble being received amongst their own nations versus why try to stay in a sovereign country without assimilating, you may start getting to issues that can be identified and dealt with--chances are, most of that is related to property.

To use the U. N. to mandate "multi-culturalism" upon Bhutan, or to wage an economic war against the sovereign, seems to me to be a misuse of its powers.

[Davidallany]

Hi Vektor,
There are barriers in the way of a united earth. Some of these barriers are our own human frailties, vanity, physical and mental limitations. Too much emotions is in the way and these emotions are mishandled and misused due to family education, religion and society influence.
In my opinion there is a definite hope but as you know things take time and important things take even more time and testing. I thin 10,000 years would do the trick. I think that we humans need another 10,000 years to mature, unless there is outside interference Alien or otherwise in form of Genetic manipulations or cyborg enhancements or both in which case I think it will be a matter of generations before getting positive results. 5 generations is enough.

[Justplain]

Hi Vektor, i would tend to think that in order for a true global utopia to exist, the world's human consciousness would have to collectively be raised. In order to overcome organizational logistics, overpopulaion and supply shortages, people would need to have greater spiritual/psychological connection. Telepathy would probably be needed. Zero point energy would be needed for sustainable independent cummunities to flourish. Corporations would probably not be allowed to exist because of their self serving nature.

All this being said, how would we get there from here. Probably start by reducing the size of corporations, outlawing war, promoting sustainable lifestyles in each region, such as growing your own food, medicine and developing local cottage industries that provide for local needs, such as Ghandi promoted in India. Hi tech efforts would have to be organized differently and not be beholden to corporate fascist interests. Education should be revised to develop spiritual and academic skills, much like Yoganada's Ranchi schools, where telepathic skills, etc. could be honed.

Creating a new global society would be an arduous task, though a well worth endeavour.

[EvoAwa]

A united Earth can only happen if majority of people on this planet come to realize (on their own and from their own heart) and clearly understand that:

-we live on a tiny planet called Earth located in a solar system known as the Sol system spinning and moving through our infinite universe---> instead of just only looking horizontally and at their feet

-we are all part of the same human family and it does not matter what we look like, etc (since vanity is rampant these days)

-reincarnation is real (we have been everything living things and every kind of sentient beings)

-we live forever and don’t just live one life

-we first have to be responsible for ourselves and our actions (and an upright citizen) and not blame others if there is a problem

-unconditional and universal love is very important and we should not only concentrate on the physical aspect of love

-we cannot take away our wealth, physical body, etc when we move on to the next life

-etc

…Unfortunate majority of the people only care about what they can see and what they can accumulate physically (Sex, Money and Status)…
Even when I talk to my close families, friends, and acquaintances (from all races and cultures): majority of them do not care about life after death, ETs, (they do not care about it and don’t want to have any serious discussion about it or they simply just say it point blank that these things are not important to them). They just care about earning a six figure salary and buy fancy cars and go on expansive vacations…

And if they are religious, they only pray that they when they die, the heavenly door will be open for them and they will be let into God’s Heavenly Utopian kingdom (which I think is stupid, because we should actually make our physical life close to an utopian society, instead of waiting until we are dead)…

Anyways, to speed up the process of a United Close to Utopian freedom type of Earth Society (that we all envisioned), we first have to be what we preach and try to not give up, even though is very hard being here…

It is hard to stand on my own two feet these days, since I just graduated university and in the process of job search (and is hard for the recent graduate to find jobs these days, doesn’t matter where you are at on the planet)… I have to feed myself and it is very hard. 
From what I seen from friends of all walks of life, majority of the jobs are in Finance and Investment (that directly deal with money), CS (AI type and coding etc), and Medical Industry (I prefer natural remedies and holistic, energetic if possible)… it is very sad and that all the “conventionally smart, good test taker” folks that I personally know are working in these type of industries… they are good, normal people that are very nice and kind, but they are just simply “sheepeople” who just follow the herd and don’t care about anything else…

On the outside, I might seem like everything is fine and I have a ok good life… but deep down I am not satisfy with Earthly life at all, seems like there are lots of restrictions (for examples: if I want to go to another country I need VISA and TAX forms my parents tell me to fill out, because I need to practice how to fill them out)... I am ok with doing sixty pages of final reports and three hours of final exams, which I am OK with it, because unfortunately this is how the educational systems in university work… But sadly, students will forget most of what they learned (due to our short memory span) and the only things I think is helpful are actually the hands-on laboratory work and interactive group analysis…

Sorry for the long post… I am still trying to be positive and will try to live on Earth for another eighty-some years…

[shaberon]

Posted by EvoAwa (here)
It is hard to stand on my own two feet these days, since I just graduated university and in the process of job search (and is hard for the recent graduate to find jobs these days, doesn’t matter where you are at on the planet)… I have to feed myself and it is very hard. 
From what I seen from friends of all walks of life, majority of the jobs are in Finance and Investment (that directly deal with money), CS (AI type and coding etc), and Medical Industry (I prefer natural remedies and holistic, energetic if possible)… it is very sad and that all the “conventionally smart, good test taker” folks that I personally know are working in these type of industries… they are good, normal people that are very nice and kind, but they are just simply “sheepeople” who just follow the herd and don’t care about anything else…

There's the rub. We can be pretty well united, mentally, but what it comes down to is that--you and I will be struggling for the same piece of pie.

Finance Industry: a bunch of voodoo that renders us into this helpless state.

Those other "growth sectors" you mentioned are also basically non-productive. In that a human being can have a full, complete life without computers or robots, which would probably be of greater quality without vaccines, drugs or surgery.

Is not the Earth--the land and our harmony with it? Yet I was a surplus, expendable person from day one.

[Vektor]

Well important thing is that there is an idea ... some time in future , it will be realised we hope

[shaberon]

I was sitting here hoping for unity, and my military went and blasted Yugoslavia to pieces.

It would help us to know, from an insider's point of view, what are the situations that lead to problems in the area? There obviously are some people who were pretty serious about fighting before we came and overpowered it.

Our government always lies and is out of control, and about all I can suggest to outsiders is to not use dollars, follow Hungary's example and kick out the I. M. F., leave NATO, and get rid of any similar institutions because they will take over your press and steal your land. It will look a little different than the way Communist dictators did it, but it will be basically the same thing.

[Starseed]

Posted by Vektor (here)
We are imagining a world of apsolute unity , no nation doesnt mean no leaders. Every world need leaders. United World Council , where there would be a representators of every race of humans , which will prevent racism. This is one solution but if that time comes we will be able to make maybe a better decision who our leaders would be. Important thing is that our leader must be the one whose idea is same as the idea of United Earth ... same goal , to fight against corrupt and against illusions that are surounding us today.

Thank you Vektor for this post. For what I know of the future, liberating us from everything that society taught us is through total collapse. An Earth cataclysm followed by an alien invasion would certainly rally the human race when billions would be exterminated for total domination. Thankfully to Earth changes, humans' salvation resides in elevating their souls to 4th and 5th densities. There is hope at the end of this dark tunnel.

[ozmirage]

Based on the number of nations that adopted a republican form, I would say that there's ZERO chance of a "United Earth" based on justice, reason and common sense. Or the concept that all men have inherent rights to life, liberty and absolute ownership, which are not at the mercy of a majority vote, nor government.

[CD7]

HIGH chances for Earth to Unite......ORCHESTRATING IT is the issue. THERE ARE MORE THEN ENOUGH ANGRY BEES IN THE NEST---Unification would be a breeze with the right draft setting the fire Ablaze. It could All change in ONE day.

Certain events could change things very rapidly.......the petty repetitive drum beats happening over the years from many has already made some waves

[thunder24]

YOu can not take away a family unit as of now, thus you can not take away community as of now, thus you can not take away expanded unity which some call statehood or nationalism... To get a unified world is much like is portrayed in united states of our unified founding.... Nations unified together as one, saying "NO MORE".... Community or village it takes to raise a child and take care of each other... so a unified world is great, but until you find your self in a community of agreement you can not expect a world to be unified...it starts at "your" center. When We as a whole take that stance we can so "no more" to that which keeps us divided. But if those around you can't agree how can we expect those on the other side of the globe to say " we agree"?!?!?!?!