Islamophobia: Why Are So Many, So Frightened

[Althena]

Too many in America are unwilling to even consider the hard, cold truth.
They want to think of a world where everyone gets along and co-exists. Unfortunately, by its very nature Islam is not built that way. It cannot tolerate any other religion or ideology because it sees it everything else as opposing Islam and ultimately, Allah.

Islam leaves no room for anything else. Everything must come under the authority of Islam or be destroyed. Do not fall for the lies. They present one thing to us and while chipping away at the very society we believe they support.

[Althena]

[QUOTE=delfine;1072501]It has been said that islamophobia is an oxymoron, because there is every reason to fear islam:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

[Baby Steps]

It's worth remembering that all over the middle east, Islam is morphing into the kind of belief system that 'Christians' could relate to-just good people who befriend each other and deal with life in a pragmatic and moral way-almost all my UK Moslem friends generally fit fully into the Western Liberal paradigm and would be as unlikely to discuss the details of their credo as would two Christians sit down and discuss whether that wine REALLY changes into blood as it goes down your throat!

Some confide that they go through the motions of observance without believing it at all, but most-particularly the Mediterranean people are very European in their outlook, and it's just not an issue.

TPTB obviously wish to associate ISLAM with violent Jihad in peoples mind- to feed fear and prejudice, which is a feedback loop into radicalisation and terror.

Of course there are radicalised people. In Europe the source of this is the social conditions that people find themselves in- lack of jobs and racial prejudice. Another reason is that the European colonial powers have sourced their Moslem immigrants from among the least educated and privileged in the old colonies, and there one finds the Jihadi mind set.

So to reduce the problem at home one needs to build a pluralistic, tolerant and prosperous society. Foreign policy should be geared towards promoting prosperity,education, and stability in the Moslem world. Radical Islam is DYING, and it gets shriller as death approaches, if we stabilised the middle east and stopped attacking it, we would hasten this.

People need to accept some Jihadi terror, but learn not to demonise the mass of Moslems or the Religion itself. Have faith in ordinary people! So many from all back grounds are rejecting literalism with respect to ancient texts!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Althena (here)

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

What I wrote — here: 16-Year-old German Girl Pleads for Help From the Influx of Muslim Immigration (BANNED by FACEBOOK) — was:

Be careful you're not picking and choosing your historical evidence to try to convict (or damn) the culture you've put in the dock.

The most imperialistic regime in recent times is the US, with Britain (and other European countries such as Spain, Portugal and France) preceding it. And if we go back further, we have Rome... and also China.

It might be wisest to stick to accurate reports of current events. Or else you may start to look xenophobic — whether you actually are or not.

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

I am saying that from a historical point of view, the culture for most people to be fearful of throughout the world, in all ages, is Christian-justified militancy and imperialism.

[delfine]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Althena (here)

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

What I wrote — here: 16-Year-old German Girl Pleads for Help From the Influx of Muslim Immigration (BANNED by FACEBOOK) — was:

Be careful you're not picking and choosing your historical evidence to try to convict (or damn) the culture you've put in the dock.

The most imperialistic regime in recent times is the US, with Britain (and other European countries such as Spain, Portugal and France) preceding it. And if we go back further, we have Rome... and also China.

It might be wisest to stick to accurate reports of current events. Or else you may start to look xenophobic — whether you actually are or not.

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

I am saying that from a historical point of view, the culture for most people to be fearful of throughout the world, in all ages, is Christian-justified militancy and imperialism.

The difference between christian- justified and muslim-justified militancy and imperialism, is that christian-justified militancy is hijacking christianity/going against the teaching of Christ, while muslim-justified militancy is actually keeping to the word of mohammed

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by delfine (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Althena (here)

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

What I wrote — here: 16-Year-old German Girl Pleads for Help From the Influx of Muslim Immigration (BANNED by FACEBOOK) — was:

Be careful you're not picking and choosing your historical evidence to try to convict (or damn) the culture you've put in the dock.

The most imperialistic regime in recent times is the US, with Britain (and other European countries such as Spain, Portugal and France) preceding it. And if we go back further, we have Rome... and also China.

It might be wisest to stick to accurate reports of current events. Or else you may start to look xenophobic — whether you actually are or not.

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

I am saying that from a historical point of view, the culture for most people to be fearful of throughout the world, in all ages, is Christian-justified militancy and imperialism.

The difference between christian- justified and muslim-justified militancy and imperialism, is that christian-justified militancy is hijacking christianity/going against the teaching of Christ, while muslim-justified militancy is actually keeping to the word of mohammed

Are you trying to be serious or was that sarcasm??

I am sure Jesus always said "Kill thy neighbour and rape and pillage his land, and do it twice if they are brown or Muslim!!"

I am sure that Jesus said "Round up all those natives in Canada and take their children away and "purge the Indian out of them" - done by what are called residential schools where hundreds of thousands of native children where sexually and physically abused - the goal was to remove all their original culture and replace it with a "Christian" one -- Just like Jesus said to do! Jesus loves it when good Christians abuse children, right?

Jesus also apparently said to "send armies into the Americas and kill all the men take women and children to do with as you please; destroy all their "false gods" and bring me back their riches!" As the conquistadors did faithfully in the name of Christianity.


I could go on for hours. Obviously "Christians" have the exact same mindset the project onto their Muslim brothers.

.... give me a break

[Carmody]

The one thing we do understand, I hope, is that we are all dealing with factional aspects of oligarchical groups, who are at war with one another.

The public is kept unaware, to the point of killing all messengers who are on target....specifically when the public begins to see that the given messenger is on target.

In reality, there is no other war except that of oppressing oligarchy. Period.

Otherwise you will stay in these loops of perpetual unreasoned death and destruction.

Which is part of the game to keep you off balance to maintain the hidden oligarchy.


Again, you have no other war or target except that which is to be in action --- against deepset hidden oligarchy.

All of this other religion stuff, immigration, any of it, is just the stick of your forced ignorance waving around and hitting you, in order to ensure you remain in emotions and out of thought, and thus under control.

You must go straight for the man behind the curtain, otherwise you will die and continue to die. Forever.

[delfine]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by delfine (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Althena (here)

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

What I wrote — here: 16-Year-old German Girl Pleads for Help From the Influx of Muslim Immigration (BANNED by FACEBOOK) — was:

Be careful you're not picking and choosing your historical evidence to try to convict (or damn) the culture you've put in the dock.

The most imperialistic regime in recent times is the US, with Britain (and other European countries such as Spain, Portugal and France) preceding it. And if we go back further, we have Rome... and also China.

It might be wisest to stick to accurate reports of current events. Or else you may start to look xenophobic — whether you actually are or not.

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

I am saying that from a historical point of view, the culture for most people to be fearful of throughout the world, in all ages, is Christian-justified militancy and imperialism.

The difference between christian- justified and muslim-justified militancy and imperialism, is that christian-justified militancy is hijacking christianity/going against the teaching of Christ, while muslim-justified militancy is actually keeping to the word of mohammed

Are you trying to be serious or was that sarcasm??

I am sure Jesus always said "Kill thy neighbour and rape and pillage his land, and do it twice if they are brown or Muslim!!"

I am sure that Jesus said "Round up all those natives in Canada and take their children away and "purge the Indian out of them" - done by what are called residential schools where hundreds of thousands of native children where sexually and physically abused - the goal was to remove all their original culture and replace it with a "Christian" one -- Just like Jesus said to do! Jesus loves it when good Christians abuse children, right?

Jesus also apparently said to "send armies into the Americas and kill all the men take women and children to do with as you please; destroy all their "false gods" and bring me back their riches!" As the conquistadors did faithfully in the name of Christianity.


I could go on for hours. Obviously "Christians" have the exact same mindset the project onto their Muslim brothers.

.... give me a break

Are YOU serious? The core teaching of Christ is: Turn the other cheek, and love thy neighbour as thyself, while the core teaching of mohammed is: Kill the unbeliever.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa.../violence.aspx

[I Sit In Silence]

Islam was created as an "anti" religion.

It is the arab Judaism. Arabs, since time began were subjected to all the various religions of the world, but never a uniting religion of their own. If you believe religion to be true then you see what has taken place. Jews, descendants of Isaac, have Judaism, Arabs descendants of Ishmael had nothing but now have Islam to worship in opposition to the Jews.

Unless you think that it was a coincidence that Mohammed rose to heaven on the former supposed temple mount. Having been to the middle east, Iraq, and socialized with Arab muslims, I find it a strange coincidence that they ALL teach the children from birth to hate Jews. They dont know why they hate them exactly, but its the thought that counts. Basically Jews are their boogeyman, as muslims are ours.

Now with all the demonization coming from the west, we are now counted as boogeymen too. Well, for good reason. Obviously we are controlled by the Jews, which makes them hate Jews even more.

Just wait til it comes put that the whole war on terror was a sham instigated by Israel and the United States for the Jews who own the central banks and the corporations who are complicit with them. Just wait and watch, when the dollar/petro dollar collapses, the secrets will start flying from rats trying to avoid drowning and the "truth" will ignite a firestorm of fury from the world, Bye bye Israel, Bye bye USA, Israelis and Americans along with Britain are done.

Blamed for the financial shell game since 1913 the world will come unglued. Theres even a possibility of the Vatican to take some radioactive punishment. Islam will go on a rampage and it wont end soon. Israels remnant will be hiding and brits and Americans hunted. At least thats my OPINION.

I have my reasons for my beliefs, but time will tell.

[Atlas]

Posted by Mitm (here)
[...] many muslim women out there, obey this stupid rule to "cover your hair" as if it matters, the actual rule in the quran is dress modestly... thats it..

Muslim Woman: "Enough memorizing like parrots [...] we are being brainwashed on a daily basis."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by delfine (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by delfine (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Althena (here)

I posted this same exact video here and got told off, maybe they won't say anything to you.

What I wrote — here: 16-Year-old German Girl Pleads for Help From the Influx of Muslim Immigration (BANNED by FACEBOOK) — was:

Be careful you're not picking and choosing your historical evidence to try to convict (or damn) the culture you've put in the dock.

The most imperialistic regime in recent times is the US, with Britain (and other European countries such as Spain, Portugal and France) preceding it. And if we go back further, we have Rome... and also China.

It might be wisest to stick to accurate reports of current events. Or else you may start to look xenophobic — whether you actually are or not.

I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

I am saying that from a historical point of view, the culture for most people to be fearful of throughout the world, in all ages, is Christian-justified militancy and imperialism.

The difference between christian- justified and muslim-justified militancy and imperialism, is that christian-justified militancy is hijacking christianity/going against the teaching of Christ, while muslim-justified militancy is actually keeping to the word of mohammed

Are you trying to be serious or was that sarcasm??

I am sure Jesus always said "Kill thy neighbour and rape and pillage his land, and do it twice if they are brown or Muslim!!"

I am sure that Jesus said "Round up all those natives in Canada and take their children away and "purge the Indian out of them" - done by what are called residential schools where hundreds of thousands of native children where sexually and physically abused - the goal was to remove all their original culture and replace it with a "Christian" one -- Just like Jesus said to do! Jesus loves it when good Christians abuse children, right?

Jesus also apparently said to "send armies into the Americas and kill all the men take women and children to do with as you please; destroy all their "false gods" and bring me back their riches!" As the conquistadors did faithfully in the name of Christianity.


I could go on for hours. Obviously "Christians" have the exact same mindset the project onto their Muslim brothers.

.... give me a break

Are YOU serious? The core teaching of Christ was: Turn the other cheek, and love thy neighbour as thyself, while the core teaching of mohammed is: kill the unbeliever.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa.../violence.aspx

Christianity does not follow the teachings of Jesus at all in case you haven't noticed. I was raised Christian and this was the first thing I notice when I began to open my eyes. In case you haven't noticed that old testament is also almost entirely in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus.

Do you think I can't find a webpage written by Muslims that point out all the "evil" passages in the Christian bible in the same manner as you linked a webpage written by Christian extremists about Muslim extremism?

The problem is not "Islam" -- the problem is religious views that breed intolerance and judgements of others. As being raised Christian I can tell that intolerance and judgement are qualities that tend to be riper in Christians than in non-religious people. So how much is "Jesus" really a part of these peoples lives? It would appear less so than non-religious folk.

Just because Jesus said "Love thy neighbour as yourself", does not mean that millions of people over the centuries have not killed, raped, pillaged, and burned, "non-believers" in the name of Jesus. Good christian folks. You want to see the love of Christ as it shows up in "Christians", Search Youtube for witch burning in Africa - to this day people are burned alive to a crowd of cheering "Jesus" followers. Love my neighbour my ass.

Do you not see that religion (both Christian and Muslim) is orchestrated to control people? To make them hate and kill for the "Elite" that run this world? Do you think the Vatican with it's hoarded trillions in wealth is respecting what Jesus said? Do you forget what Jesus said to the money-lenders in the temple? Christianity became the very thing that Jesus tried to warn us about ... and they did it all in the name of "Jesus" -- the ultimate irony ... well the ultimate irony is that Christians refuse to see this, and believe that their religion is the "one true religion" -- sounds like Islam to me. Same **** different pile.

Christianity was Hijacked during its inception into the Roman government - which provides the basis for pretty much all Christian denominations. It has never been what it has portrayed itself as - ever. As it was constructed in its current form to solve a problem for the Roman government ... long ago - that problem was "losing control over the people's beliefs"

Much of the world has been "conquered" in the "name of Jesus" -- nothing different than Islam, except the view on each side of the arena is different -- yet the arena itself is ironically one and the same.

Here's what the bible says:

Exodus 35:2 – " For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death." - The Christian God orders death on people who work on Sunday?

Leviticus 20:13 – "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." -- note - I think ISIS wrote this one .. oh wait no it s the bible. At lest the Islam extremists have the courage to follow their "word of God" and apparently they are doing the Christian Gods bidding as well ...

Christians are just as deluded as Muslims about their religion ... Here's a great analysis of Christian bible passages:

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Believe_i...ot/ar/t304.htm

[ozmirage]

If you confuse the institutional religion with the founder, you may be misled.

Though Buddhists may fight, and kill, there are few reports, if any, that the Buddha was a violent man.
Though Christians may fight, and kill, there are few reports, if any, that Jesus was a violent man.
Though Muslims may fight, and kill, there are plenty of reports that Mohammed (the perfect man) was a murderer, kidnapper, rapist, pedophile, liar, cheat, thief, and warlord.

[I Sit In Silence]

The world seems to be continually conquered throughout history by men in the name of whatever they choose.
I think it would be folly to believe somehow that the world is in turmoil over a particular belief as its not necessarily the belief system but the believers who are at fault.
To be fair, one should take the system of belief and really get to the core message and judge that belief based on its original purpose.
Take the words at face value, like a child, and compare that to it followers, does the belief and the believers line up?
If not, why?
Is it cultural, is there an outside influence that keeps its believers from following its commands?
What would a "true" believer look like?
Then ask yourself what came first, belief or non-belief?
Is your opinion on what came first proveable?
Since birth, isnt EVERYTHING a belief? Even non-belief is a decision a person makes based on personal feelings, which makes non-belief in fact a nelief.
Therefore if the non-believers ruled the world, as a minority might I add, their belief in nothing, still lead to world domination, by forcing people to NOT believe.
It pretty much boils down to your own personal decisions and how others react to them, which leads to opinions on wether or not religion is good or bad.
It really doesnt matter with humans wether they believe or do not believe, the ones who achieve power always lord over the ones without power.
The problem is human nature not religion, thats just passing the buck.

[ozmirage]

The problem was always predators, not religion.

MORALITY SIMPLIFIED
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The basis for all morality is survival.
Dead things have no morality.

There are two sets of laws:
• 1. Law of love, versus
• 2. Law of the jungle.

Under the law of love, harmless activity in support of one's "right to life" is moral / good. Harmful action is "bad".

Under the law of the jungle, predators are "good", and prey are "good to eat". Prey who fight back are "bad".

Natural law recognizes the "right to life" of lions, sharks, and other predators.

Humans who embrace jungle law are certainly law abiding - it’s just not what we wish for “civilization.” Ditto, for (most) religions.

• People who respect the person, liberty, and property of another are not a threat.
• People who prey upon the person, liberty, and property of another are a threat, no matter what ideology, race, or ethnicity they espouse or use to excuse their attacks.

Humans who embrace "the law of love" are opposed to predation (of other humans) as their means to secure their "right to life." (The law of love does not prohibit acts in self-defense. To surrender to predators is unmerciful to their next victim.)

• The highest expression of the law of love is self sacrifice for the benefit of another.
• The lowest expression of the law of the jungle is sacrificing others for one’s own benefit.

The question now becomes : which law do you embrace?
[] Jungle law or [] the law of love?

Does your religious subgroup of humanity embrace and protect predators or does it abhor and punish predators?

Are you intolerant of predators and a defender of their prey or are you a defender of predators?

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by ozmirage (here)
The problem was always predators, not religion.
...

Religion allows (and to some extent creates) good and normal people to become predators and even feel "justified" and "righteous"while being such. In fact that is often encouraged within religion all the way to extreme extremism -- in any religion (BTW Budism is philosophy, not religion)

I highly doubt that without the teachings of the "christian church" in some of these locations in Africa, people would just go around burning other people alive for fun. The religion gives them the fear and judgment of things that the religion does not agree with, in order to propagate the "belief". Good humans are tragically caught up in religions and their views are changed that cause these atrocities against people. Exact same as we see in pockets of Islam. The machine is the same, it just wears a different face.

It matters not whether you are Christian or Muslim, both these religions are equally harmful. Islam is somewhat more obviously harmful (probably to us because our media is vastly biased), and Christianity does the same harm much more subtly - possibly even more dangerous.

[Atlas]

Commonalities Between the Torah, Bible, and Quran

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=83bFU3sNq0g

[Foxie Loxie]

Have enjoyed reading all the comments! Thanks for the Bill Warner videos....had never heard of him. A visual about the battles was informative to see. Going back to the Muslim Dr. I worked for; her husband had been in the army of the country they came from & he actually told me, "If we had had the atomic bomb we would have used it! I do remember vaguely, a few years ago, that the British Parliament was hard pressed to make sure Sharia Law did not get passed. Maybe someone else can remember the details better. Most of us seem to go through life not seeing the really important issues until something stops us up & causes us to start using our own mind. My observations over this lifetime of mine is that each one of us is brainwashed in some form from birth. If we were fortunate to be born of intelligent, wise parents, so much the better. But too many of us were not! As a result we remain in our little world, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whatever....until some event wakes us up. That's why I am so thankful for Bill & Kerry dedicating their lives to helping the rest of us wake up!

[Iloveyou]

The article in the OP focuses on one important aspect, though the psychological explanation of projected unconscious fear and self-hatred covers only one of many layers. And I doubt the elites being insane.

Even if it was true that Islam is the most aggressive, expansionist religion, and that there are several hundred year old plans to instrumentalize Islam to push WW III - which I tend to take seriously, but which I find rather unlikely to happen - even then please take into consideration that this "Islamic threat" and "Islamophobia" are just two sides of the same coin. The purpose of the manufactured fear and hatred is to hide a possible real threat.

Propagating Islamophobia prevents people from looking at the potential dangers from a rational standpoint and it directly plays into the hands of the fundamentalists and supports them.

There are few topics which are so emotionally high charged and controversial, one is either for or against "it" - similar to the Holocaust (-denial or not) issue, probably. There's barely any reasonable discussion in the public, just verbal fights. Education about the various aspects of Islam would be essential.

add: Maybe the education is just starting here?

[Atlas]

Khalid Yasin: "Throw The Quran, The Bible and The Torah"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=g8HTi4lVnSA

Adnan Oktar: "I read the Quran, Torah and Bible every day"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlAG1q06Uro

[Atlas]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not saying there's not a problem with Islamophobia, or with Muslim immigration. These are serious problems, all carefully engineered, of course.

Savagery of Religion and Islamic Tribal Traditions.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tIqsmHH5wDc