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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Thanks to Flash for that contribution! Nice of her to chime in. And mods, thanks for posting it!

    To me, Simon comes off as an imperfect but caring man in a very imperfect situation.

    Con men don't invest enormous amounts of their time and energy for free. I don't know if i'd seek him out for therapy, but I think he tells the truth as he understands it.

    Thing is, in this world of mind control programs, you can't just go google www.fixmyf#ckeduphead.com..can you? This is unchartered territory...and the pioneers are bound to make some mistakes.

    When Mark Phillips saved Cathy O'Brien, he broke all the rules. He certainly didnt follow the ethics chart of the american psychiatric association. mind control is a whole new game that requires a whole new set of rules. You have to make them up as you go along, because there's really no guidebook.

    Simon certainly should not be making definitive statements like "I can fix you. I can cure you". But if a little overzealousness and a few missed appointments are his biggest crimes, I think we can take him off the cross. My 2 cents.

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    Hi there Autumn, I might say Flash and her daughter got thru a very bizarre period due to Flash's great mothering skills..AND the assistance of Simon. The time and effort and energy he gave cannot be so easily dismissed. That is an ENORMOUS donation of one's energetic resources...with no remuneration, mind you. You can accuse the man of being unprofessional if you like, but you can't really label him uncaring.

    After hearing Flash testimony, what do you s'pose Simon's motivation was? Thats not a rhetorical question. I'm very curious. And i'll listen! Really. The difference here between you and I is that you seem to have made up your mind while I, for better or worse, have not.

    Honestly, this stuff with dracos and mantids is way above my pay grade..and it was never really my intent to get into this business of defending Simon with post after post. In that sense, I kind of regret contributing here. In general, when it comes to esoteric areas such as these, I preach the gospel of "I don't know"...and I find it fascinating that one could reach such definitive conclusions from such murky information. Yes, there could be some dark stuff going on....but there also could not be. Who knows? Jury is still out imho.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Yes, that part at least, is understandable...
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    This is a slightly edited segment of a message I received from a reader who, understandably, wants to be anonymous.
    So once again, we have the alternative community up in arms against itself. Whistleblowers blowing the whistle on whistleblowers. The elite must be having a good chuckle.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    This thread is not about anything other than the treatment received from Simon.
    That is the whistle being blown in this case.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Yes, that part at least, is understandable...
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    .
    This is a slightly edited segment of a message I received from a reader who, understandably, wants to be anonymous.
    So once again, we have the alternative community up in arms against itself. Whistleblowers blowing the whistle on whistleblowers. The elite must be having a good chuckle.
    The chuckle would only be that anyone "buys into" that Simon is some "whistleblower."
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    I'm going to call it as I see it, this is really, really scary stuff . Apparently, Simon sees nothing wrong with telling a 16 year old girl that her father is demonized????? There is no harm in telling a teenager she is programmed by the cabal as a "butterfly" monarch slave with a wolf program and suicidal triggers?



    Quote Of course, he took care of her in his own ways, meaning telling us that she
    had been programmed by the cabal to be a "butterfly" monarch slave,
    with a wolfe program that had suicide triggers included,, etc etc, that we both
    were Lyrans and Pleiadians, that the reptiles would try to stop us at any price,
    the whole shehanigan. To tell the truth, my basic trust was not great, but
    hey, I needed help. So I read every single thing I could find on Dracos,
    Mantids, Satanic programs, etc etc. A real speed studying with complex
    topics, within a few months.
    Quote Therefore, we bought into the Dracos, Mantids and Satanic programming
    things for a while. In it, he father was demonised as being satanic (not hard
    for me to believe), but we never acted on it, so no damages there. And does
    it matter?
    ==========
    I do not believe you can subject a child to this sort of "therapy" and have them walk away unscathed. It is one thing if adults want to pay money for this fantasy, but apparently he's willing to do this to a child. I find this so unethical, it makes my head spin.
    "Butterfly slave", "demons", "mantids", "wolf program"....listen, i'm inclined to say it's all ridiculous too..but look around!...thats what the whole bloody forum is about man!I don't know why anybody here would be so surprised that he'd evoke these archetypes! Its par for the course my friend! If Simon is a bit off, what does that say about us?

    Im trying to defend objectivity, not Simon...but ive been forced to defend him a little in an attempt to bring the debate up to a reasonable baseline.

    Bottom line: the accusations against Simon are quite serious, and he needs to answer for them. In full. I have no idea who Becky is and - no offense - I don't care. Nothing short of Simon making a full and detailed statement will do. I don't think the conversation can really move forward till he does. Till then, I won't have much to add.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    I'm going to call it as I see it, this is really, really scary stuff . Apparently, Simon sees nothing wrong with telling a 16 year old girl that her father is demonized????? There is no harm in telling a teenager she is programmed by the cabal as a "butterfly" monarch slave with a wolf program and suicidal triggers?
    ...
    I do not believe you can subject a child to this sort of "therapy" and have them walk away unscathed. It is one thing if adults want to pay money for this fantasy, but apparently he's willing to do this to a child. I find this so unethical, it makes my head spin.
    "Butterfly slave", "demons", "mantids", "wolf program"....listen, i'm inclined to say it's all ridiculous too..but look around!...thats what the whole bloody forum is about man!I don't know why anybody here would be so surprised that he'd evoke these archetypes! Its par for the course my friend! If Simon is a bit off, what does that say about us?

    Im trying to defend objectivity, not Simon...but ive been forced to defend him a little in an attempt to bring the debate up to a reasonable baseline.

    Bottom line: the accusations against Simon are quite serious, and he needs to answer for them. In full. I have no idea who Becky is and - no offense - I don't care. Nothing short of Simon making a full and detailed statement will do. I don't think the conversation can really move forward till he does. Till then, I won't have much to add.

    A lot of the arguments, accusations in this thread belong to the old paradigm. When I said that the message is infinitely more important than the messenger, I got a rebuttal which in effect says that the messenger must be examined first. Remember that the PTB is generations ahead of us in technology, that means in information technoloy/deceit as well, it is absolutely essential to evaluate the message, its consistency etc and pay little attention to the messenger's "integrity". This is because virtually anyone can be vilified through simple proper procedures, and loses all integrity and dies in shame.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I'm glad you are still here, Eva. It's not easy for me to understand you a good bit of time, but when your meaning does come through, it shines.
    You've made me think a lot more about what it must be like for a basically ET soul to find themselves living on this planet, and how difficult it must be to understand this quagmire of human society that we have created here, and how it might look to them when they are being judged by standards of behavior that humans have set for themselves (and so often don't live up to).
    If life is difficult for a human who is native to this school of hard knocks, how much more so it might be for someone who hasn't spent much time here!
    And how different the inner worlds may be for the children who are incarnating here now who were previously living on other worlds, and there may a lot of them now, we are told by some sources.
    We don't know what Flash's daughter's inner world was like or how she may have responded to Simon's input.
    Flash said that her daughter had a lot of Reptilian lifetimes, and perhaps she responded very well to it.
    I know from experience that scary talk of demons and and dark spirits and Hell and damnation and so on is not spared children who go to Christian churches and Hindu and Buddhist temples, and heaven knows they are not spared from all kinds of terrifying images and impressions from TV shows, movies and computer games and books that many of them are regularly exposed to these days.
    Children today are growing up in a very different world than they were in my day, and I would imagine they have become much more inured to shock than previous generations.

    I really only have a couple more things to say, and then I think I am done with this debate.
    Firstly, about Becky: besides being a member of Avalon for a few years now, though she didn't maintain a high profile here (she is a very private person and doesn't like being in the public eye much) she befriended me on Facebook awhile back.
    We had thanked each other a lot for each other's posts on Avalon, and so I accepted her invitation, and I'm glad I did.
    Aside from being a bit curious about people who know Simon personally, I just had a feeling that she has a good heart and that I would like her.
    Her photos on FB bore that out for me, and I'm pretty good at reading energy, even in photos.
    She has a very sweet and open face and her young daughter is a darling, obviously very happy and healthy.
    Her friends and relatives all look like really nice people- it's a group of people that emits a clear and loving energy.
    We have conversed a bit about various subjects and I find her a very endearing person as well as intelligent and wise.
    So I think if Simon were really the ogre that some of you are portraying him as, she would know it, because she is around him a lot, and she knows other people who know and work closely with him.

    Secondly, I would like to expand upon a post I made here in May: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1071681
    which reads as follows:
    Quote If my posts have appeared to be an attack on Dr. Greer, hopefully this post will be more clear.
    What I really think is not that Greer is a bad guy, but that the man who created the Disclosure Project is no longer in that body, or at least, has been overpowered by some kind of Archonic or perhaps Reptilian being.
    Of course, this is just my own opinion, but it is based on a couple of things, one being my own experience of having a "discarnate entity" in my own body from the time I was about 3 years old until my late 20s.
    A being that came through my alcoholic father and tried to take full possession of my body and my will.
    It succeeded for a time, but I struggled and eventually, with the help of someone who was skilled in that particular rare kind of healing work, was able to eject it.
    I think something similar has happened to Greer, but I think the attack on him has been much more serious, given the prominence of his work in Disclosure.
    As Agape is a first hand witness to, anyone who publicly goes up against the established way of thinking about ETs is likely to be subjected to all kinds of attacks, the price being anything from one's peace of mind to one's life, or even worse.
    I have lots of empathy for anyone who goes through this.
    But humankind is going through an extraordinary period of testing, and we must be vigilant to every aspect of what this entails.
    Ignorance is only one failing we are subject to--complacency and despair are just as dangerous.
    Compassion, vigilance and discernment are necessary to win the battle for our sovereignty, but staying in our comfort zone may not always be possible,
    I think we also have to be very strong and determined, even if it means looking at what makes us fearful and uncomfortable or stretches our credulity to the limits.
    The part I want to expand on is regarding the discarnate entity that tried to possess me.
    That was the term used by the woman who was able to help me evict it finally.
    It was interfering with my body and mind from the time I was around 3 until I was in my mid 20s.
    I was fully aware of it when it first entered me.
    My father was angry and shouting at me, the first time I had experienced anything like that, and it upset me terribly.
    He told me to go upstairs to my room because I had interrupted a conversation he was having with my mother.
    Dismayed and humiliated, as I ascended the stairs trying not to cry, I felt like a huge, black abyss suddenly open up around me and engulf me, then something came through it and seized control of part of my consciousness and my body.
    I almost lost consciousness but was able to stay aware enough to witness what the entity was causing my body to do, though I could not interfere with its machinations.
    The entity propelled my body onward, and directed it to my brother's room, which I had never entered before on my own because he always kept his door shut and I knew he didn't want anyone to go in there.
    My body opened the door and went directly to his chest of drawers, the top of which was too high for me to see.
    My body climbed onto a chair and immediately took a large bar of chocolate Ex-Lax down and then went into the bathroom, sat down on the toilet and began to eat.
    I had had no idea at the time that that bar was in my brother's room, what it was, or what it could do, but my body had consumed a good portion of it when severe stomach cramps began to manifest.
    I was terrified the whole time of course, but it wasn't until the cramps became so severe that my survival instincts kicked in enough to allow me to make my body scream for my mother.
    When she arrived and saw the laxative bar, she helped me pull down my pants so that I could defecate.
    I had terrible diarrhea, and was so ill she called the doctor, and when he came, they stripped my clothes off, put me in the bathtub and gave me an enema.
    The whole episode was painful and horrible beyond belief to my young mind, but what was even worse was the fear and distrust that I felt for my father from that day onward, and the knowledge that my will was no longer my own and that to be a "good girl" was no longer going to just come naturally to me, but would take every bit of strength and determination that I had.
    That led to an even more painful and terrifying near death experience in 1972 when I was 25. and was hit by a speeding hit and run driver while crossing a street in San Francisco, resulting in multiple broken bones and other injuries, necessitating 5 months in the hospital.
    But not long after that, I found myself blessed to be friends with a whole circle of very spiritual people including the late, great Dr. Christopher Hills, and a wonderful woman named Barbara Pettee, who was a major benefactor of the Tibetan saint, Karmapa .
    They gave me healings and lots of loving support which greatly expedited my healing journey.
    Barbara told me one day that she had a friend who lived in Arizona who did long distance healings, and she wanted to pay this woman to do some healings for me.
    Of course, I accepted gratefully.
    I was instructed to send a photo and a sample of my handwriting to this woman, which I did, and I got a letter back from her soon after.
    She told me that a discarnate entity had entered into my body in what she called a "partial possession", and she said that she would be working on helping me to evict it.
    She gave me some instructions and some meditation exercises to do, and said she would continue to work with me until I was free.
    I could feel my inner space gradually become my own again, and it was such a gift.
    Barbara hadn't told me the nature of the work that her friend did-- that she was essentially an exorcist--but she somehow knew that that was the kind of help that I desperately needed.
    I had been on a strong spiritual path for some years and had had some very good spiritual teachers even before the accident happened, including a year living in a Zen Center.
    But the inner freedom that was restored to me by this woman's work was something I never thought I would have again no matter how hard I tried, and so it was a huge milestone in my life to feel that freedom again.
    Hearing from the woman that this archonic being had entered into me through my father did not come as a shock to me--it came as a profound relief.
    I had never been able to talk to anyone about that experience.
    I had no vocabulary for it, and I felt terribly ashamed, thinking that I had become the target of such an attack because I deserved it somehow.
    I knew myself beyond a doubt that the being had come to me through my father, but the confirmation was extremely reassuring and empowering, and I think that I was quite right after that to keep my guard up around him.
    Fortunately for me, he didn't stay around much after that, because he continued to drink and gamble and lead a very dysfunctional lifestyle.

    Of course, I cannot say that I have any idea what affect it may have had on Flash's daughter to hear that her father was a source of demonic energy in her life, but I can say that, as someone who survived something similar to what she may have gone through, I will be forever grateful that there was someone who showed up in my life who was able to deal with those kinds of energies and was also able to affirm for me that I wasn't insane and that what I had experienced wasn't just something that I imagined, and was able to give a name to it and assure me that I was not at fault and had not been singled out by God for a terrible punishment, or anything like that.
    I was also very grateful that she told me just what I needed to do to keep that from happening again, and warned me that doing things like smoking, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, being resentful, angry, spiteful, jealous, etc. could all make me vulnerable to similar attacks, and that I needed to work hard to restore my energy field and keep it intact.
    I never had a mother like Flash did who helped me to work on myself, though later in life I did have good friends, thank the Goddess.
    And that one woman who knew how to give the very kind of help that I sorely needed to bring peace back to my soul, without which I don't think I would have survived much longer, as my will to live was fading after all I had been through.

    So I think that may be why I continue to keep my mind open to the possibility that Simon may be helping people who don't know where else to turn.
    If he is giving the kind of help that I received to others who are suffering from the same kind of affliction, which is available from so few sources, then Goddess bless him.
    I don't think that missed appointments or choosing not to work with everyone who asks him, out of the hundreds of needy callers he gets, really amounts to much when stacked up against the possibility that he is helping people who are dealing with things like Milab mind control, abduction, demonic possession and all those other things that most professionals would simply label as delusional, and probably prescribe a psychoactive pharmaceutical, which is standard practice nowadays.

    I don't claim to KNOW what went down with the people who so critical of Simon (and I've been critical of him myself), nor do I KNOW that he is helping a lot of people, but I am willing to admit that, at least, and I always find people who are willing to admit that the aren't all-seeing to be a lot more believable.
    I am also not the kind of person who stubbornly refuses to change my mind.
    I used to think that Dr. Greer couldn't possibly be mind controlled or possessed, or whatever it is that he seems to be now.
    I was really reluctant to think that because he did such great work in the past.
    Conversely, when we were examining Shane "The Ruiner" on Avalon, I was at first very intrigued, then disillusioned when he wouldn't come out with more juicy whistleblower information and seemed willing only to speak in broad generalities.
    But having listened to Kerry Cassidy's recent new interview with him here:

    ...I think I was being unfair and judgmental, and I am happy to admit it.

    I know what it's like to be psychically attacked, but I doubt that I can imagine what it would be like to be a whistleblower and willing to risk the kind of attacks that could result from doing that kind of work.
    And I think Shane made some very good points about the expectations that people have of whistleblowers and how unrealistic they are.
    He is going to be featured in the next event that Kerry is putting on along with Simon (she describes Simon's work as a whistleblower quite favorably, btw), and Harald Kautz-Vella, another whistleblower who has suffered from very concerted attacks.
    I think it will be very interesting to see how they all interact.
    .
    Win Keech, another whistleblower and a respected scientist and crop circle researcher, is a good friend and neighbor of Simon's.
    I would say that his is no fool, and neither is Jay Pee, who has interviewed Simon extensively on his internet show Wolf Spirit radio.
    I think there is good in Simon and obviously a lot of other people do too.
    If we're wrong and he's got some kind of demonic or archonic energy controlling him, then I hope that he will get the help and support that he needs, just as I do for Dr. Greer, because that is a terrible space to be in.
    But if I were Simon or Becky, I probably wouldn't come onto Avalon now either, because I don't think they would be heard.
    I hope some people who have been helped by him will report here however, and I will see if I can help to facilitate that, because I think that would be much harder to ignore.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    As I wrote in my last post:
    Quote Of course, I cannot say that I have any idea what affect it may have had on Flash's daughter to hear that her father was a source of demonic energy in her life, but I can say that, as someone who survived something similar to what she may have gone through, I will be forever grateful that there was someone who showed up in my life who was able to deal with those kinds of energies and was also able to affirm for me that I wasn't insane and that what I had experienced wasn't just something that I imagined, and was able to give a name to it and assure me that I was not at fault and had not been singled out by God for a terrible punishment, or anything like that.
    I was also very grateful that she told me just what I needed to do to keep that from happening again, and warned me that doing things like smoking, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, being resentful, angry, spiteful, jealous, etc. could all make me vulnerable to similar attacks, and that I needed to work hard to restore my energy field and keep it intact.
    I never had a mother like Flash did who helped me to work on myself, though later in life I did have good friends, thank the Goddess.
    And that one woman who knew how to give the very kind of help that I sorely needed to bring peace back to my soul, without which I don't think I would have survived much longer, as my will to live was fading after all I had been through.
    I think that if I had been helped in that way when I was a teenager, it would have been even better for me. Having that kind of experience tends to mature you very quickly in a lot of ways. I would not have been frightened if someone had told me that I had been attacked by a demonic energy coming through my father at 16 any more than I would have been when I was in my 20s. It was extremely empowering to me to have someone experienced in such matters validate my experience and give me a vocabulary with which to explain it. Relief coming sooner, when I was a teen and my head had already been spinning since I was three but then also plagued by raging hormones as well and all the rest that teens have to endure would have been very helpful indeed! You cannot generalize what is good or bad for all teens--every soul is unique.
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    I am stating it is very unethical, unprofessional and potentially very damaging to give this information to a child. I am very doubtful of the maturity and common sense of an adult that would do this to a child. Also, I wonder about their apparent lack of empathy and compassion in not considering the negative possible outcomes that might occur. I know if I would have been given that information as a teenager, it would have been devastating.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    As I wrote in my last post:
    Quote Of course, I cannot say that I have any idea what affect it may have had on Flash's daughter to hear that her father was a source of demonic energy in her life, but I can say that, as someone who survived something similar to what she may have gone through, I will be forever grateful that there was someone who showed up in my life who was able to deal with those kinds of energies and was also able to affirm for me that I wasn't insane and that what I had experienced wasn't just something that I imagined, and was able to give a name to it and assure me that I was not at fault and had not been singled out by God for a terrible punishment, or anything like that.
    I was also very grateful that she told me just what I needed to do to keep that from happening again, and warned me that doing things like smoking, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, being resentful, angry, spiteful, jealous, etc. could all make me vulnerable to similar attacks, and that I needed to work hard to restore my energy field and keep it intact.
    I never had a mother like Flash did who helped me to work on myself, though later in life I did have good friends, thank the Goddess.
    And that one woman who knew how to give the very kind of help that I sorely needed to bring peace back to my soul, without which I don't think I would have survived much longer, as my will to live was fading after all I had been through.
    I think that if I had been helped in that way when I was a teenager, it would have been even better for me. Having that kind of experience tends to mature you very quickly in a lot of ways. I would not have been frightened if someone had told me that I had been attacked by a demonic energy coming through my father at 16 any more than I would have been when I was in my 20s. It was extremely empowering to me to have someone experienced in such matters validate my experience and give me a vocabulary with which to explain it. Relief coming sooner, when I was a teen and my head had already been spinning since I was three but then also plagued by raging hormones as well and all the rest that teens have to endure would have been very helpful indeed! You cannot generalize what is good or bad for all teens--every soul is unique.
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    I am stating it is very unethical, unprofessional and potentially very damaging to give this information to a child. I am very doubtful of the maturity and common sense of an adult that would do this to a child. Also, I wonder about their apparent lack of empathy and compassion in not considering the negative possible outcomes that might occur. I know if I would have been given that information as a teenager, it would have been devastating.

    Are you suggesting that we throw this kind of "therapy" at children and find out which ones benefit and which ones will be devastated? Do you think the risk is worth it? Would you like to find out you were wrong at the risk of a young persons life or mental stability?

    Why do you defend someone that is not willing to defend themselves? If I was providing therapy I believed in and someone suggested it was tantamount to child abuse, I would personally defend myself at all costs. I would be outraged. I would also be outraged if the information was inaccurate or incorrect. I am wondering why you are the only voice that speaks out in defense?


    In this case, a mother went to him in good faith, seeking help for her child. A mother that has been very dedicated to helping her daughter. Apparently, there was no damage done in this case, however, I know from personal experience that trauma can raise it's ugly head at a much later date, so no one knows for sure. We don't know how many other kids are out there that had desperate parents seeking help in good faith, that could have been deeply damaged.



    If you would have benefited from this stuff, Onawah you must have been a most exceptional child.
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    Default Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

    I am not the only person who has taken the position that there are two sides to this story, which is clear from their posts on this thread.
    And Avalon is not the only place where Simon is a subject of discussion.
    I have asked Simon and Becky if they would object to me petitioning for input from people who have been helped by Simon and posting their comments here on Avalon (remaining anonymous if they wish).
    I think they may have just decided not to participate further for reasons which I am not at liberty to discuss, and think any attempts to add to the discussion would just be adding fuel to the fire, so I will drop it if they wish; I am waiting now to hear if they don't mind me proceeding.
    And I would do that not on their behalf so much as for my own reasons.
    My idea was to ask Jay Pee if I can post something on his Facebook page asking if there are people there who would like to come forward, as there are a lot of people posting there who are interested in Simon's information.
    And asking if anyone in the Connecting Consciousness group refer anyone interested in doing that.
    With the option of remaining anonymous if they wish, and just contacting me privately via email as a relay for their testimony.

    Yes, I suppose you could say that I was somewhat exceptional as a child. I don't think the majority of people presently on the planet have had the kind of experiences I've had.
    And I think unless you have, you really can't understand what different realities are being experienced on this planet, and more and more so all the time.
    People who have had demonic/archonic attacks, abductees and mind control experiences live in a different reality than the mainstream.
    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Why do you defend someone that is not willing to defend themselves? If I was providing therapy I believed in and someone suggested it was tantamount to child abuse, I would personally defend myself at all costs. I would be outraged. I would also be outraged if the information was inaccurate or incorrect. I am wondering why you are the only voice that speaks out in defense?

    If you would have benefited from this stuff, Onawah you must have been a most exceptional child.
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    I've never seen a human story yet where there wasn't two sides.
    I think we are all susceptible to being deceived in this world, and I think that can cut both ways in this case.
    I'm not excluding myself or even you, Bill, from that.
    I got the OK to proceed with seeing if I can connect with people willing to relate experiences where Simon has been helpful to them in one-on-one situations.
    However Bill, this is your forum and if you want to refuse to allow me to post any results here, that is your prerogative, of course.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)

    there are two sides to this story
    A parent who only beats their child once a month...
    A spouse who only has affairs now and then...
    A counselor who only abuses their clients occasionally...

    ...doesn't constitute 'two sides to the story'.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)

    there are two sides to this story
    A parent who only beats their child once a month...
    A spouse who only has affairs now and then...
    A counselor who only abuses their clients occasionally...

    ...doesn't constitute 'two sides to the story'.
    I've never seen a human story yet where there wasn't two sides.
    I think we are all susceptible to being deceived in this world, and I think that can cut both ways in this case.
    I'm not excluding myself or even you, Bill, from that.
    I got the OK to proceed with seeing if I can connect with people willing to relate experiences where Simon has been helpful to them in one-on-one situations.
    However Bill, this is your forum and if you want to refuse to allow me to post any results here, that is your prerogative, of course.
    Of course you can post accounts of positive experiences. But it won't mean a thing.
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    Yes, but as I said, I think there is another side to that story though I am not qualified or at liberty to discuss it.
    But perhaps more will come out about that if the discussion proceeds.
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    Yes there is always another side Onawah--it may even be true.
    A story of Non-duality back ground.

    The culprit before the judge said--I am not the doer, the creator does everything therefore I am not responsible so you can not imprison me.---The Judge said "You are sentenced herewith to three years in prison. --I am not sentencing you the creator is.

    There is a responsibility inherent in all actions---no mater if the child provokes the mother she does not have the right to harm it.
    The mothers side of the story is I was provoked--A court would find her guilty of harming the child.

    So two sides of the story or not the behavior of Simon could well be judged by those who experienced it as "inappropriate".

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    Or appropriate, as the case may be.... We all must weigh in on the scales of Justice.
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    Here is what was just posted to Jay Pee's Facebook page:
    Quote Hello to all Connecting Consciousness members and former clients of Simon Parkes,
    Jay Pee has given me permission to get a message out to you via his FB page.
    I live in the US and have never met or had a session with Simon, but I am a longstanding member of the Project Avalon forum:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/index.php
    ...which, if you are not familiar with it, is a sort of "conspiracy theory meets science meets spirituality" forum which was created by Bill Ryan.( Bill and Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot were originally a team and they still work together at times. Kerry is going to be facilitating an event soon which will feature Simon. See: http://projectcamelotportal.com/events/ )
    Anyway, Simon has long been a subject of discussion on Avalon, and was once an active member as well.
    Currently, his reputation has been taking a beating as some people who had or tried to have private sessions with him have reported they have felt abused.
    Some of the complaints have just been about missed appointments, failure on Simon's part to follow through with return calls, etc.
    I am not concerned about those so much.
    No doubt there is room for improvement there, but due to the volume of the calls received, technological problems and possible interference from unfriendly forces, this is not all Simon's fault, I'm sure.
    What concerns me is the few cases where people have said things like Simon scared them, hurt their feelings, made stuff up, confused them, got angry or insulting--that kind of thing.
    There have not been a lot of these complaints, but It doesn't take much to smear a person's reputation I thought that if most of the people who have been having sessions with Simon have been helped by him and some of them would be willing to share their experience, it could be helpful in presenting a more balanced picture.
    My idea was that anyone who would like to testify on Simon's behalf could send me a private message on Facebook (you don't have to be a "Facebook Friend" in order to do that), and I would post some of the accounts on the Project Avalon forum.
    You can absolutely remain anonymous if you wish.
    There are reasons why Simon has not wanted to take this on himself, things going on behind the scenes which have made him feel like it would just be adding fuel to the fire.
    So this is just my own idea, and I'm doing it because I value whistleblowers who are brave enough to take on the elite and talk about things that need to be made public knowledge.
    I also think it's not really fair to hold someone like Simon to the same standards that we hold professional counselors.
    I once was very much in need of some help from someone who understood and knew how to help in cases of archonic/demonic attacks, and I know that there aren't many people in the mainstream professions who would do much more than conclude such a person is deluded and prescribe a pharmaceutical, which is standard practice today.
    The same goes for people who need help with mind control, ritual abuse, ET abductions, and that sort of thing.
    Again, I cannot give any first hand testimony about Simon's work because I haven't had a session with him. I am only acquainted with his whistleblowing work.
    But if you have and it helped you, particularly if it was a case such as those named above, would you be willing to give witness?
    Of course, if you have had a negative experience, that should be tallied in as well, but I am hopeful that those are in the minority., though I could be wrong!
    I am not claiming to know, for sure, just going on my intuition.
    Thanks, and thanks to Jay Pee for allowing me to post this here. Please share it with others who you think might be helpful, if you wish.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Here is what was just posted to Jay Pee's Facebook page:
    Quote Hello to all Connecting Consciousness members and former clients of Simon Parkes,
    Jay Pee has given me permission to get a message out to you via his FB page.
    I live in the US and have never met or had a session with Simon, but I am a longstanding member of the Project Avalon forum:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/index.php
    ...which, if you are not familiar with it, is a sort of "conspiracy theory meets science meets spirituality" forum which was created by Bill Ryan.( Bill and Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot were originally a team and they still work together at times. Kerry is going to be facilitating an event soon which will feature Simon. See: http://projectcamelotportal.com/events/ )
    Anyway, Simon has long been a subject of discussion on Avalon, and was once an active member as well.
    Currently, his reputation has been taking a beating as some people who had or tried to have private sessions with him have reported they have felt abused.
    Some of the complaints have just been about missed appointments, failure on Simon's part to follow through with return calls, etc.
    I am not concerned about those so much.
    No doubt there is room for improvement there, but due to the volume of the calls received, technological problems and possible interference from unfriendly forces, this is not all Simon's fault, I'm sure.
    What concerns me is the few cases where people have said things like Simon scared them, hurt their feelings, made stuff up, confused them, got angry or insulting--that kind of thing.
    There have not been a lot of these complaints, but It doesn't take much to smear a person's reputation I thought that if most of the people who have been having sessions with Simon have been helped by him and some of them would be willing to share their experience, it could be helpful in presenting a more balanced picture.
    My idea was that anyone who would like to testify on Simon's behalf could send me a private message on Facebook (you don't have to be a "Facebook Friend" in order to do that), and I would post some of the accounts on the Project Avalon forum.
    You can absolutely remain anonymous if you wish.
    There are reasons why Simon has not wanted to take this on himself, things going on behind the scenes which have made him feel like it would just be adding fuel to the fire.
    So this is just my own idea, and I'm doing it because I value whistleblowers who are brave enough to take on the elite and talk about things that need to be made public knowledge.
    I also think it's not really fair to hold someone like Simon to the same standards that we hold professional counselors.
    I once was very much in need of some help from someone who understood and knew how to help in cases of archonic/demonic attacks, and I know that there aren't many people in the mainstream professions who would do much more than conclude such a person is deluded and prescribe a pharmaceutical, which is standard practice today.
    The same goes for people who need help with mind control, ritual abuse, ET abductions, and that sort of thing.
    Again, I cannot give any first hand testimony about Simon's work because I haven't had a session with him. I am only acquainted with his whistleblowing work.
    But if you have and it helped you, particularly if it was a case such as those named above, would you be willing to give witness?
    Of course, if you have had a negative experience, that should be tallied in as well, but I am hopeful that those are in the minority., though I could be wrong!
    I am not claiming to know, for sure, just going on my intuition.
    Thanks, and thanks to Jay Pee for allowing me to post this here. Please share it with others who you think might be helpful, if you wish.
    Perhaps you could ask Jay Pee to reach out and ask Mr. Ryan for a future Connecting Consciousness interview ?

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    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Here is what was just posted to Jay Pee's Facebook page:
    Quote Hello to all Connecting Consciousness members and former clients of Simon Parkes,
    Jay Pee has given me permission to get a message out to you via his FB page.
    I live in the US and have never met or had a session with Simon, but I am a longstanding member of the Project Avalon forum:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/index.php
    ...which, if you are not familiar with it, is a sort of "conspiracy theory meets science meets spirituality" forum which was created by Bill Ryan.( Bill and Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot were originally a team and they still work together at times. Kerry is going to be facilitating an event soon which will feature Simon. See: http://projectcamelotportal.com/events/ )
    Anyway, Simon has long been a subject of discussion on Avalon, and was once an active member as well.
    ...
    Perhaps you could ask Jay Pee to reach out and ask Mr. Ryan for a future Connecting Consciousness interview ?
    On second thought, I really would like to see both Bill and Simon interviewed (together) simultaneously ...
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    I think tempers are running a bit hot for that right now.
    In any case, Jay Pee is about as opposite as you can get from talk show hosts who encourage confrontation.
    Simon has never been one for confrontation, which is a bit of a problem for a whistleblower.
    Maybe down the line, if some of his clients from one on one sessions speak for him...
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    On second thought, I really would like to see both Bill and Simon interviewed (together) simultaneously ...
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