Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by misbis (here)
Again- with simple words- what exactly to do with the money in the account?

When a variety of people have been through the same sort of crisis several times, then they can learn what works, and what sorts of preparations are useful.

But when the crisis is immensely complex, covering a vast and diverse area, involving people and institutions that have never seen anything like it before, then there are not easy answers.

Begin studying ... we're all about to enter a crash course in the school of hard knocks. One (of many) ways to begin is to search on "surviving an economic collapse russia" or "surviving an economic collapse venezuela".

The study of economics and money is especially challenging, as there are multiple deliberately misguided, theories and understandings of such, with roots deeply implanted in almost all our schools, public discourse, propaganda, universities, and even Nobel Economics prize winners, Federal Reserve Chairmen, and US Treasury Secretaries.

Money is a key control mechanism over humanity. The Bastards in Power are not about to allow transparent understandings of how "it works" to gain wide acceptance. Rather they bury any such under centuries of myth and deception.

(And if I had a reliable answer to the question of "what do I do with my money", perhaps my net worth wouldn't be a tiny fraction of what it might have been, had my crystal ball worked better. The usual answer, amongst most of us who have been studying this for a while, is "gold and silver", but just because it's the usual answer doesn't mean it's the right answer ... indeed the "usual" answers are usually wrong in such matters.)

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by misbis (here)
Again- with simple words- what exactly to do with the money in the account?

Posted by Paul (here)
When a variety of people have been through the same sort of crisis several times, then they can learn what works, and what sorts of preparations are useful.

But when the crisis is immensely complex, covering a vast and diverse area, involving people and institutions that have never seen anything like it before, then there are not easy answers.

I see you're flying the flag of Bulgaria, misbis ... so my financial insights would likely be worth even less to yourself than they are to any Americans near me.

[Cidersomerset]

The latest Dark Journalist interview is with Dr David Jacobs.
Now there is not a fix all for contactees but might be worth
a watch....They discuss mainly Greys and hybrids , but also
Preying mantis and reptoid types as well.


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...16#post1086516

[Pam]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
A likely example of "pure fabrication" which (if it is) is another part of his "story" meant to achieve a false representation of who he is.

Consider the talk given at the "Lifting the Veil" conference on June 22, 2013.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AL1xS5ZsjOw

Just check out a three minute segment of this talk starting at 12:09.


at 13:20 Simon says the following -

“Earlier this year I had an invitation to join [the Illuminati]. And you will be surprised as I was surprised that it had an application form and my question was, why would a secret society have an application form and they said, “well in your case we think it’s very important that we know what we’re saying and you know what you’re saying.” I don’t let this form out of my sight. I brought it with me today and during break if you wish to have a look at this, I am more than happy to let you look at it, I won't allow any photographs of it.”

OK so Simon says a prominent politician invited him to join this secret order.

It just so happens that this order has been around for decades and has had an online presence for at least 7 years (at least 4 years prior to event in Leeds on June 22, 2013).

The application Simon had was most likely this very application found at this link right here -

http://theorderofthehiddenmasters.com/application.php

Nothing secret about this "order."

Easy to print the application right off the internet.

Ohhh and note that anyone that wishes to join this order must submit the completed application... Simon represents in his statement - "in your [his] case" as if he is a special exception.

[message to the vulnerable - "Don't doubt how important it is for the Illuminati to have me join their ranks."












and there's more...

The following two quotes finish at just after 15:00.

..."and so the question is, why was I invited to join the non-satanic arm of the Illuminati."

[message to the vulnerable - "could it be because "they" understand who I am (Son of Anu, special emissary for the Mantids and Draco ) and how important I am with regards to the future of the world?"]


"I wouldn't accept the Satanic arm because I am diametrically opposed to that and I didn't accept this one either."

[message to the vulnerable - "don't worry folks, I have rejected the dark side. This is an example of one rejection (among many). You can be assured of your safety with me."]


To all "researchers" - please, when a fraud is exposed...

STOP THE INTERVIEWS.

When reports to the extent that has been received by many in this community demonstrate the quite likely degree of danger to the vulnerable of this community...

STOP THE INTERVIEWS.

First of all, Sam, this is really good investigative work on your part. This is what we should all be doing when we are deciding whether someone is being honest in this area. It looks like he took a little bit of truth and wrapped it around a self glorifying scenario where he is all important. Remember the part in the video where he stated no one could take any pictures of the application. What a bunch of bunk.

What obvious manipulation. He counts on the fact that no one will really look into what he is saying. I looked up the application and the following is what he was being asked to sign up for. A course that you pay to take, yet he would have the listener believe he has been asked to join a special , exclusive illuminati organization. One where most would not have to write out an application, but he is so special, they will make an exception.

So, I can only come to two possible conclusions. One, is he is completely naive and somehow believed this to be true. In that case he is not fit for any kind of work that he is doing. The other option is that he is cunning and deceptive taking a little fact and wrapping it in a pound of lies.

What you found hear speaks volumes, Sam!!! Excellent work. I hope you will find time in your future to continue your watch dog work, it is important and you are good at it.





This is what he would really be signing up for:

THE HIDDEN MASTERS
present
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I would absolutely love to have one of Simon's followers respond to this outright deception. How will you explain this? Is it that difficult to admit that you were wrong in your assessment of him ? Please, I would like someone to explain this away.

[Agape]

Posted by norman (here)
As important as it is to provide future references with accurate facts, think for a moment where your arse is facing while your snout is down a rabbit hole entrance.

Today I imagined that I put my special pair of "They Live" sunglasses on and looked at the forum 'New Posts' list.

What I saw was this:


[ NOT The Big Picture ]

[ NOT The Big Picture ]

[ NOT The Big Picture ]

[ The Big Picture ]

[ NOT The Big Picture ]

etc....................

This thread was definitely one of the "[ NOT The Big Picture ]" ones..

Since I am not allowed to reply in the same thread where most of the discussion goes , in favour of the chosen topic ,

I'll add few more words here instead .


My suggestion for those curious , notorious , eyes attracted to flickering lamps of men ( and women ) clad in whatever costumes they are , whistling to the winds and against the roar and tides of the cosmic waves , against the lunacy of birth and death ,
as it should ..

is get over it .. get over the idea that you're somehow a privileged member of privileged forum and the wide and vile and poorly informed world around should somehow pay obeisance to you and read here, not even that , that they should come and study this all ( and get a certified diploma in conspiracy ) and it will somehow again, make them more knowledgable if not more literate .

Get over the idea there's something exceptional going on here that is not going on everywhere else too and don't think even for a moment that you've somehow 'started it'.
We did not, not anyone did .

Some of our older generations dogmas will remain with them till the end of their natural life times . And till they're allowed to preach their truth and 'their only truth' or version of and use their intellect negatively, as they were used to, born into world full of conflicts, full of clandestine aversions, full of suspicions and paranoia they swore to fight and fell victim to the same disease because war .. this bloody human war spares no one, including infants , there's nothing we can do for or against such trends being propagated , for them - the 70 year old politicians ( in average ) and their faithful sons and daughters being elected to stand behind the captain wheel and think they're navigating the course of human destiny.
Should the humanity sink in between , they'll still be there , looking to the fairway mists convinced about their truth , the last mohicans , the stone Lenin's, the tragical monuments of humanity .

So I say , if you have eyes to see and ears to listen as you hopefully always had .. look around instead ..

and read, read again the thousands of paths people have walked , the traumas and treatments, the pitfalls of everything and most importantly , the clues and the cures .

Don't spend your time on believing . Study . No matter how old or smart you are not , there's more you can find from doing so than from the time you and I've spent arguing about outrageous claims of Mr X or Mr Y and why you are you and me is me over thousand and millions of miles and how this place is special and belongs to you .


People do know more at all times than they dare to say and than they have time and care to say in open .

Everyone has a little Buddha in their heart

There's no way how a forum post or thread defines anybody . There's nothing written here that is not known or written in another way , another place too.

There may have been time and the time may yet come that internet companies and their gurus will use the liberty of what they purchased and 'leased' to us the Freedom of Speech , at least so it seems .. a hard won virtue

But soon they get over it and they'll have to beg for people to come in and share their wisdom.


This is just one time like that . Not any 'universal truth' at all. It has as many facets as you wish to encompass .

Not ever anything is what it seems .. and as long as there's an authority over our heads , making things and people to be seen as they want them to be seen ,

This place, this planet , this society .. is not and won't be free .



It will always come under the spell of the men with strong voice and diction .


If you want to open your eyes though .. then so and be free .. the reason behind conspiracy theory is not 'conspiracy theory' , the reason is Life .

Life harder than most of us can carry for more than few or 80 years before we can't take it anymore .

The reason why most people come to forums like this .. the same reason behind the world wide web , is people seeking people .

Now , we're so incredibly rich as we ever were , we have all the information needed to save and advance this humanity .

See it all depends on whether we're all also benevolent, well intentioned and compassionate beings

or just pathetic lunatics who can't stop blowing their whistles and lungs and shoot their guns to space ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QLUDJlx5jEc

Well, don't blame the kids . No matter what happened with moma last week ..

[onawah]

I will just point out that a lot can change in 3 years, which is how long it's been since that Lifting the Veil conference.

I would absolutely love to have one of Simon's followers respond to this outright deception. How will you explain this? Is it that difficult to admit that you were wrong in your assessment of him ? Please, I would like someone to explain this away.

And to that I will repeat once again that you may deceive yourself by thinking that just because certain members have been interested in finding out what Simon knows or doesn't know means they are "followers". The truth is nothing near so black and white as that. I refer you again to one of Kerry's very astute posts here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1061261

...especially this:

So pay attention. Stop assuming that I agree with my witnesses number 1. And 2. stop assuming that ANYONE — regardless of which so-called lofty Angelic, ET, Channel, Elohim, Deity or Avatar they claim to speak for and be in contact with has the god almighty TRUTH. We all have a direct connection with Source / The Force or the Creator. As such be careful who you listen to. Because in spite of our birthright connection to source, many are deceived, mind controlled or simply being controlled and many don’t know it! Many sources of info are heavily infiltrated and purposely deceptive. Many are deluded. Some people have good sources and even their good sources may be misled on a higher level. Every whistleblower and source I deal with has both truth and falsity in their info. Some are extremely well intentioned. Sometimes the most well intentioned are the easiest ones to mislead. Because they see what they want to see and are blind to the rest. Many of the Camelot whistleblowers who worked or still work for the military or secret space program or Illuminati secret societies or others are also trained from a young age to view reality in a certain way. And they have assumed a belief structure (without questioning) without even knowing it.

For example, some of the whistleblowers I have dealt with are brilliant in the truth they provide while at the same time firmly believing in nonsense such as the concept of “overpopulation”. That piece of programming is still in place. Seeing this planet as over populated is based on the false notion of scarcity. As CREATORS IN TRAINING we will ultimately create any kind of abundance we wish to have. Especially as consciousness rises. The more conscious we become the more we can create.

What is clear is that consciousness is rising and that is changing the playing field. Don’t be mislead by ultimatums. Understand that people like Kameran are doing you a service to see inside the war between the factions at the top. If you look behind the message you will see that in the case of the CAPP ENFORCEMENT ACTION — what is most interesting in that statement is that the authors are bothering to threaten ETs on and off the planet, acknowledging that chemtrails exist and should be stopped, that weather manipulation, scaler weapons platforms, portals are being opened and so on are all impacting Earth to our detriment. And so on. This is significant along with the inside look at exactly how one contingent declares war on a number of others. How this manifests once the deadline passed as it has, we shall see. Or not, depending on how thick the chemtrails are and how duped we are by the media misdirection in coming days and so on…

I suggest that people stop looking for the final word or truth to be given to them on a silver platter without questioning the source and their sources and the sources behind them! Stop believing in the lofty notion of the the sources behind sources and think for yourself. Use your direct channel to the highest source and your own higher self. Stand back and observe. Blindly follow no one and question everything. Stay alert and awake. It’s a grand experiment and you are here NOW.

[onawah]

This is a discussion between Jay Pee and Win Keech, friends of Simon Parkes, who are filling in for Simon while he is on holiday.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jFSwiepU6fI

They are talking about the Lyran/Reptilian wars and how that trauma is still affecting us now on Earth.
There are some shows Jay Pee did previously on the same subject:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_xegaOnWgE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r_GzWSOnzTY

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k8ME4ksYacE

I've included these on this thread because, although they aren't specifically about Simon, they are about healing the trauma caused by that ancient war and how it is playing out now with the Reptilian agenda continuing to affect us in the here and now on Earth.
It's interesting that these guys are good friends with Simon, who still has some strong Reptilian traits, and they acknowledge that most of us also have Reptilian DNA which makes for an interesting scenario as the traits of love and self-sacrifice from the Lyran heritage is working to neutralize the Reptilian aggressive traits, both within and without us, and how that is manifesting now on Earth and coming up for deep healing.