Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness

[RunningDeer]

Perhaps some one could post a link to that thread and in particular Bill's post.

Updated list of Bill's posts (not all of them):

Alberto e Daniela's Thread: Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor

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[Pam]

I feel this very important information regarding the truthfulness of what Simon Parkes says. Sam Hunter discovered this and it is evidence that Simon was blatantly dishonest. Please look at the post and listen to the part of the youtube talk that Sam mentions. I would love to hear what advocates of Simon have to say. I have cut and pasted this directly from another thread. This is not opinion or sentiment, just facts.

Re: Our Experience With Simon Parkes as a contactee (split from "Our experience with Simon Parkes as a counselor" thread)

Quote Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
A likely example of "pure fabrication" which (if it is) is another part of his "story" meant to achieve a false representation of who he is.

Consider the talk given at the "Lifting the Veil" conference on June 22, 2013.


Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AL1xS5ZsjOw


Just check out a three minute segment of this talk starting at 12:09.


at 13:20 Simon says the following -

“Earlier this year I had an invitation to join [the Illuminati]. And you will be surprised as I was surprised that it had an application form and my question was, why would a secret society have an application form and they said, “well in your case we think it’s very important that we know what we’re saying and you know what you’re saying.” I don’t let this form out of my sight. I brought it with me today and during break if you wish to have a look at this, I am more than happy to let you look at it, I won't allow any photographs of it.”

OK so Simon says a prominent politician invited him to join this secret order.

It just so happens that this order has been around for decades and has had an online presence for at least 7 years (at least 4 years prior to event in Leeds on June 22, 2013).

The application Simon had was most likely this very application found at this link right here -

http://theorderofthehiddenmasters.com/application.php

Nothing secret about this "order."

Easy to print the application right off the internet.

Ohhh and note that anyone that wishes to join this order must submit the completed application... Simon represents in his statement - "in your [his] case" as if he is a special exception.

[message to the vulnerable - "Don't doubt how important it is for the Illuminati to have me join their ranks."

and there's more...

The following two quotes finish at just after 15:00.

..."and so the question is, why was I invited to join the non-satanic arm of the Illuminati."

[message to the vulnerable - "could it be because "they" understand who I am (Son of Anu, special emissary for the Mantids and Draco ) and how important I am with regards to the future of the world?"]


"I wouldn't accept the Satanic arm because I am diametrically opposed to that and I didn't accept this one either."

[message to the vulnerable - "don't worry folks, I have rejected the dark side. This is an example of one rejection (among many). You can be assured of your safety with me."]


To all "researchers" - please, when a fraud is exposed...

STOP THE INTERVIEWS.

When reports to the extent that has been received by many in this community demonstrate the quite likely degree of danger to the vulnerable of this community...

STOP THE INTERVIEWS.
First of all, Sam, this is really good investigative work on your part. This is what we should all be doing when we are deciding whether someone is being honest in this area. It looks like he took a little bit of truth and wrapped it around a self glorifying scenario where he is all important. Remember the part in the video where he stated no one could take any pictures of the application. What a bunch of bunk.

What obvious manipulation. He counts on the fact that no one will really look into what he is saying. I looked up the application and the following is what he was being asked to sign up for. A course that you pay to take, yet he would have the listener believe he has been asked to join a special , exclusive illuminati organization. One where most would not have to write out an application, but he is so special, they will make an exception.


What you found hear speaks volumes, Sam!!! Excellent work. I hope you will find time in your future to continue your watch dog work, it is important and you are good at it.





This is what he would really be signing up for:

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I would absolutely love to have one of Simon's followers respond to this outright deception. How will you explain this? Is it that difficult to admit that you were wrong in your assessment of him ? Please, I would like someone to explain this away.

[Chester]

Posted by PathWalker (here)
My response to this controversy is simple.

No one addressed the information or subjects addressed by Simon Parkes answers.
I care more about the information delivered by Simon and others.

I post information that I find valuable for people spiritual growth (especially guests).
We have a long list of failed therapist/councillor, yet the information they bring is valuable for awakening and spiritual growth.

As always some of the information is correct and some disinfo that is the nature of this domain.
Valuable information is coming from both polarities (sts + sto). It is our responsibility and duty to discern.

I find great spiritual value and learning with the Q&A part of Simon's show, many times I agree with his answers (not all). I also learn allot from the questions them selves.

There is a huge difference between someone who has made mistakes (even terrible ones) in their past, has acknowledged them, has removed themselves from the threat they have been to the vulnerable, has sought counseling to deal with their personal issues that are the reasons for their serial negative behaviors and then... after all that has been dealt with returns again to their role in the eye of the public.

Simon knows the trust he betrayed in how he "counseled" several vulnerable folks in one on one situations. He hinted at that in the brief statement he made (where he blamed it all on Anu - haha) and which he immediately took down (thankfully we have the screenshots) with the quote where he acknowledged his damaging behavior "to attack people and women in particular."

I remind the reader this was just two months ago. TWO MONTHS AGO.

Does anyone think Simon has resolved his serious personal issues in relation to the underlying psychological and spiritual illnesses that produced behaviors where folks who have become involved with him (one of the ways was via his selling of what he called "soul readings") have been attacked, especially women?

So I am again going to use the metaphor of an addict yet apply it to someone who serially attacks others especially women. There is something known as the "enabler."

This is precisely what folks are doing who promote Simon Parkes. Interventions do not work when family and friends are divided whereby some continue the role of enabler.

To pretend that this is a matter of free speech demonstrates what is almost as concerning as Simon's behavior and that is using some free speech argument to cover for a lack in personal responsibility we all share with regards to looking out for the vulnerable and ensuring this forum is a safe place for folks to go to for alternative views and information.

It truly blows my mind the seriousness of the matter and the fact that in all likelihood the issues finally owned up to (despite the blame deflection) have in no way been resolved are being ignored by anyone.

Stop enabling, please.

[Chester]

Posted by Andre (here)

Posted by Woody (here)
Why can't Simon's groupies take his nonsense somewhere else? Sorry guys but enough is enough.
Regards,
Woody

Equally, why can't the Avalon censorship team take their nonsense elsewhere!

I will take a guess. Avalon and a good portion of their membership do not wish their home to be a spawning ground for threats that are clearly dangerous to other members, readers and especially the vulnerable.

My opinion - Your attempt to characterize this as censorship is a failing attempt to avoid your own demonstration of personal responsibility to members of this community and the reputation of the Avalon forum.

Posted by BMJ (here)

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
Pathwalker, are you aware of the multitude of issues surrounding Simon and his "counseling" habits, routines and client abuse?

If so, how are you, with good conscience, able to continue to promote Simon to the public?

I really want to know.

You may or may not realise it, but your actions are detrimental to Project Avalon because it could deter potential whistleblowers from coming forward if they have a less than perfect past.

Again... past is past (especially if dealt with... many of us have pasts we may not be proud of) - ongoing threats are another matter entirely. This has nothing to do with whistle blowing (if anyone thinks that's what Simon (also) does).

How is this not understood?

[BMJ]

i understand that the moderation team read all posts could they please step in and take action to delete all posts that are not relevant to this thread and take action to reprimand inidividuals whom blatantly violate topic and thread policy .

[Shannon]

Posted by BMJ (here)
i understand that the moderation team read all posts could they please step in and take action to delete all posts that are not relevant to this thread and take action to reprimand inidividuals whom blatantly violate topic and thread policy .

Absolutley not. I think it nessecary to warn others just what Simon is about. He's far from some enlightened soul. He's an adult who preys on those weaker than him, exploits them and is a liar who cannot prove one thing he states. He also will never take responsibility for his shortcomings rather blame them on an ancient God who he thinks is his dad.

[Althena]

Nobody asked for my opinion either, but frankly I'm getting tired of all these Simon threads. Parkes fatigue syndrome.

[greybeard]

Simon Parks has had a good run for his money here. Many posts by his followers, mainly without opposing comment, so what changed?

Basically, here at least, a couple had the courage to go against the trend and without aggrandizing stated in plain, non emotional terms, their experiences with Simon--which promoted others to come forward with similar accounts.

Now this is an investigative forum amongst other things--some looked deeper into what Simon was saying and doing.
Not going to repeat all that was found but it was enough to discredit him as a counselor and a truthful, responsible, person, with integrity.

Those who support Simon Parks will never see that side of him no matter what evidence is shown.

Chris

[ThePythonicCow]

The moderators have concluded that the Avalon forum should no longer provide a place for threads that are supportive of Simon Parkes. Please see this thread for more details: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility.

So rather than providing support to this present Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness, by moving dissenting posts off this thread, I am instead closing this present thread.