Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness

[Andre]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)

People can go to Youtube and search Simon Parkes and listen to whatever they want...

Sam, thanks for your analogies of drug pushers and the vulnerable which I found quite meaningless. You obviously feel strongly that Avalon is no place for Simon but unfortunately, there are lots of us who still believe Simon is extremely well connected and has something to contribute.

I did analyse extensively the other threads on Simon's behavior and I must say I had a really difficult time finding much in the way of factual information when tracking back to the source. I was shocked at how many of the posts took the accusations and twisted them into personal attacks. I wasn't completely convinced that Simon was blameless and I was left with several questions but I simply do not take the fanatical position that he has no place on Avalon.

[Daozen]

Andre,

Aren't the pro-Parkes camp equally trying to silence dissenting voices?

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1096251

What reputation are you talking about? How would this forum look if we let it slide? It looks to me like a good 80 percent of people agree that Simon is a danger to himself and others. So please stop trying to paint Sam as the lone dissenting voice. It's disingenuous. Turn it the other way, how many Parkes supporters can you count here? Five?

It's free speech all round. Simon's free to post. Pathwalker's free to start a thread. Sam's free to question him. The Parkes camp are free to guilt trip and cry-bully. It's not like we didn't try and do this the easy way. Simon was asked to stand down honourably, and he didn't. So it looks like this'll continue.

As I said in the Keshe thread, you are all free to start a mailing list, or a private Avalon group "Friends of Simon Parkes." No-one's stopping you.

This is the first time in human history that we've had free speech. I guess it'll take some getting used to.

[Woody]

Why can't Simons groupies take his nonsense somewhere else?

Sorry guys but enough is enough.

Regards,
Woody

[Andre]

Posted by Woody (here)
Why can't Simon's groupies take his nonsense somewhere else? Sorry guys but enough is enough.
Regards,
Woody

Equally, why can't the Avalon censorship team take their nonsense elsewhere!

[Daozen]

Posted by Andre (here)
... unfortunately, there are lots of us who still believe Simon is extremely well connected and has something to contribute.

We could put it to a vote. You think Simon is honest and has a lot to offer. Others don't. The fairest way to gauge the opinion of the forum is to hold an open vote:

"Do you think Simon Parkes is honest, and has a lot to offer?"

Simple, fair, accurate. The vote will not count towards any action. It'll just let fence sitters express themselves.

[Andre]

Posted by Daozen (here)
Andre, aren't the pro-Parkes camp equally trying to silence dissenting voices?

I can't speak for the "pro-Parkes camp" whatever that is, but yes you may be right. Perhaps I shouldn't have suggested that those who feel a strong need to spit on Simon take their venom to the other thread. As you suggest, we're all free to say what we like, even if it is nothing more than a personal attack. So, here we are, the "don't listen to a word Simon says" camp and the "I like some of the things Simon has to say" camp.

[Daozen]

Posted by Andre (here)

Posted by Daozen (here)
Andre, aren't the pro-Parkes camp equally trying to silence dissenting voices?

I can't speak for the "pro-Parkes camp" whatever that is, but yes you may be right. Perhaps I shouldn't have suggested that those who feel a strong need to spit on Simon take their venom to the other thread. As you suggest, we're all free to say what we like, even if it is nothing more than a personal attack. So, here we are, the "don't listen to a word Simon says" camp and the "I like some of the things Simon has to say" camp.

Yes, here we are. A vote can let people make their voice heard freely. It will at least let people know who the majority and the minorty are. If you don't start a poll, maybe I will. I'll try to be as neutral as possible.

[greybeard]

Posted by Andre (here)

Posted by Woody (here)
Why can't Simon's groupies take his nonsense somewhere else? Sorry guys but enough is enough.
Regards,
Woody

Equally, why can't the Avalon censorship team take their nonsense elsewhere!

Oh Wow!!!
Are you including the founder of Avalon, Bill Ryan in this comment?
Bill was stronger in his comments than any other---and he had evidence given in private re a taped counseling session.
Look at the links provided by Paula with an open mind and see if they alter your opinion.

Chris

[PathWalker]

My response to this controversy is simple.

No one addressed the information or subjects addressed by Simon Parkes answers.
I care more about the information delivered by Simon and others.

I post information that I find valuable for people spiritual growth (especially guests).
We have a long list of failed therapist/councillor, yet the information they bring is valuable for awakening and spiritual growth.

As always some of the information is correct and some disinfo that is the nature of this domain.
Valuable information is coming from both polarities (sts + sto). It is our responsibility and duty to discern.

I find great spiritual value and learning with the Q&A part of Simon's show, many times I agree with his answers (not all). I also learn allot from the questions them selves.

[BMJ]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Being insulting is one thing, What Simon was said to have done and that is first hand from the OP of that particular thread, is far short of any standard required for therapy.
Perhaps some one could post a link to that thread and in particular Bill's post.Chris

Preemptive action, I knew both you Greybeard and Sam Hunter would yet again start banging on about Simon Parkes as counselor as soon as you saw a new thread.

As I said before there is a specific thread about people having issues with Simon Parkes, confine your issues there and allow the individuals in this communty to make their own judgement about the worth of his information.

If you have issue with his material make your suggestion to the moderation team and allow them to enact a solution.

[giovonni]

Posted by PathWalker (here)
My response to this controversy is simple.

No one addressed the information or subjects addressed by Simon Parkes answers.
I care more about the information delivered by Simon and others.

I post information that I find valuable for people spiritual growth (especially guests).
We have a long list of failed therapist/councillor, yet the information they bring is valuable for awakening and spiritual growth.

As always some of the information is correct and some disinfo that is the nature of this domain.
Valuable information is coming from both polarities (sts + sto). It is our responsibility and duty to discern.

I find great spiritual value and learning with the Q&A part of Simon's show, many times I agree with his answers (not all). I also learn allot from the questions them selves.

So glad someone still remembers what it (the forum) is all about ...

It is still a private forum, and if Mr Ryan wants to scrub Simon from it - So be it.

Let him be the one to do it.

[BMJ]

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)
Pathwalker, are you aware of the multitude of issues surrounding Simon and his "counseling" habits, routines and client abuse?

If so, how are you, with good conscience, able to continue to promote Simon to the public?

I really want to know.

Yet again another completely off topic comment. If you have any issues about the material air your grievances with the moderation team or post on the appropiate thread.

You may or may not realise it, but your actions are detrimental to Project Avalon because it could deter potential whistleblowers from coming forward if they have a less than perfect past.

I have made my point and am done with this matter and will not engage in a slanging match with Greybeard or Sam Hunter.

[BMJ]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by PathWalker (here)
My response to this controversy is simple.

No one addressed the information or subjects addressed by Simon Parkes answers.
I care more about the information delivered by Simon and others.

I post information that I find valuable for people spiritual growth (especially guests).
We have a long list of failed therapist/councillor, yet the information they bring is valuable for awakening and spiritual growth.

As always some of the information is correct and some disinfo that is the nature of this domain.
Valuable information is coming from both polarities (sts + sto). It is our responsibility and duty to discern.

I find great spiritual value and learning with the Q&A part of Simon's show, many times I agree with his answers (not all). I also learn allot from the questions them selves.

So glad someone still remembers what it (the forum) is all about ...

It is still a private forum, and if Mr Ryan wants to scrub Simon from it - So be it.

Let him be the one to do it.

Yes I agree whole heartedly, back to topic.

[BMJ]

On topic:

33 minute mark, Simon offers an explanation as for the reason why people are seeing a bleed threw from another reality as I and my best friend have for the last 4 years. It is a indication that person is psychic / spiritual and the physcially body is seeking acension but consciousness has not caught up yet, interesting.

35.00 minute mark mentions the witching hour is 2.30am which is something I knew from my experiences, it seems to be from 2.30am to 4.00am usually.

1hour 49minute mark mentions that people whom have deep fear of wasps but do like bees is an indication that they have been abducted by greys or mantids although this does not indicate if the abduction was positive or negative.
Within the last two weeks I found out there was a wasp nest outside my best friends window although they seem harmless when I went on the roof to clean the gutters. When I told her about it she told me to get ride of it and when I pressed her as to why she stated she is scared of them and I said what about bees? She replied "I like bees because they do good things for the environment."

She also had an experience with a friend in which they both saw a cloaked UFO hovering at midday above the friends house, this happened about a year ago now. And this was just one street away from Guilford train station here in Sydney Australia.
They both said it was a strange swerling cloud that was a little smaller than the house itself and it was hovering probable about 100feet up in the air right above the house.

[greybeard]

Posted by giovonni (here)

Posted by PathWalker (here)
My response to this controversy is simple.

No one addressed the information or subjects addressed by Simon Parkes answers.
I care more about the information delivered by Simon and others.

I post information that I find valuable for people spiritual growth (especially guests).
We have a long list of failed therapist/councillor, yet the information they bring is valuable for awakening and spiritual growth.

As always some of the information is correct and some disinfo that is the nature of this domain.
Valuable information is coming from both polarities (sts + sto). It is our responsibility and duty to discern.

I find great spiritual value and learning with the Q&A part of Simon's show, many times I agree with his answers (not all). I also learn allot from the questions them selves.

So glad someone still remembers what it (the forum) is all about ...

It is still a private forum, and if Mr Ryan wants to scrub Simon from it - So be it.

Let him be the one to do it.

Its only part of what the forum is about --I would not expect Bill to scrub Simon, he has made his views very clear.
However I do believe in the the freedom to express ones opinion both pro Simon and otherwise.

Chris

[BMJ]

Posted by greybeard (here)
However I do believe in the the freedom to express ones opinion both pro Simon and otherwise.

Chris

I take it you mean in the appropiate thread.

[syrwong]

Simon has an explanation for MIB. He said there are two groups of MIB. One group are very psychic humans, the other group are aliens. They came into existence in the 50s as part of an agreement of the US government with the aliens. Listen at 36:30. This is a credible explanation, better than that given by Dan Burisch, who dismissed them as CIA type agents to intimidate UFO witnesses.

[greybeard]

Posted by BMJ (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
However I do believe in the the freedom to express ones opinion both pro Simon and otherwise.

Chris

I take it you mean in the appropiate thread.

No thats a limiting and lacking freedom attitude, its a forum after all.
The credibility of an information giver is extremely important.
Its easy to give some truth to convince a person that everything said is so.

Pro and seemingly anti Simon views were given In the thread on Simon's treatment of a couple, there were pro Simon posts rubbishing the OP--they brought it on them selves --they were disinfo agents--Simon was being set up, there seemed to be a lack of concern for those claiming hurt by Simon.etc

The forum is surely about concern for the vulnerable and many other things.

As said I had no intention originally of getting into this thread and if my name had not be brought up I would not have.

The word whistle blower has been brought up--almost as though it conferred special rights and that may be so.

I would like a definition of whistle blower.

I see that there is the belief that Simon brings important information that perhaps can not be got elsewhere.
I dont see that falls within my understanding of whistle blowing, accepting that I may be wrong in my understanding of what a whistle blower is.

When a post is quoted in a limited fashion it looses context and the original essence is lost invariably.

I dont see Simon as a reliable source of information.

When you apologize on your web site for abusing women and men then it disappears it leads me to suspect that a business is being run and public reputation is very important to cash flow.
Obviously I may be wrong as to the motives for withdrawing the apology but it is fact that It was given then no longer present on Simon's web site.

Chris

[onawah]

I believe it is the right of the OP to request of the Mod team that members who continually go off topic or are disruptive on that thread be banned from that thread.
I think that would be entirely appropriate on this thread.
I also found some interesting things that Simon talked about in the last CC show that I would like to mention, but the remarks from Daozen, Sam and Greybeard are very annoying, and I think it would be more than fair if those of us who like to discuss in peace be allowed to do so.
We can put those individuals on our Ignore list, which I have done, but when they are quoted, their remarks continue to appear on the thread.
We could also all just put them on our Ignore lists so that none of their remarks would appear as quotations, but I think the former suggestion is more in accordance with the way things have always been done on Avalon when these occasions arise.
It certainly beats mob rule.

[greybeard]

Onawah I respect your loyalty to the view point that Simon has important information--
I question the validity of the information as I find the source--Simon--to be less than accurate.
So I may be slightly off topic but I feel it my right to question the validity of source on any thread on any subject here.

Nothing is stopping you discussing the nuts and bolts of Simon's talks/videos on this thread or else where.

Best wishes
Chris