Charlotte Riots... NOT protests....WTF is going on with the brewing "Race war"?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Spellbound (here)
The US is fibar'd.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

What the hell does that mean?

My guess is that Dave misspelled fubar.

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P.S. - ah - yes - now I catch up on my reading of this thread and see Dave's reply, above, in Post #57.

[Spellbound]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Spellbound (here)
The US is fibar'd.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

What the hell does that mean?

My guess is that Dave misspelled fubar.

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P.S. - ah - yes - now I catch up on my reading of this thread and see Dave's reply, above, in Post #57.

My bad, I was up late last night. Yes, I meant fubar'd.

Dave - Toronto

[Cidersomerset]

I'm just looking at Davids headline page and heres a couple articles
if already posted I apologise , I had a quick skim thru the thread
but did not notice them.....


Charlotte Riots Show Hallmarks Of George Soros Operation

By David on 24 September 2016 GMT The Police State

ACTIVIST POST....


Charlotte Riots Show Hallmarks Of George Soros Operation

TOPICS:Civil UnrestGeorge SorosJoe Jankowski.

September 23, 2016



By Joseph Jankowski

‘Todd Walther, spokesman for the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Fraternal Order of Police told CNN’s
Erin Burnett that most of those arrested during the riots in Charlotte had out of state IDs
and were bused into the city.

“This is not Charlotte that’s out here,” Burnett said. “These are outside entities that are coming
in and causing these problems. These are not protesters, these are criminals.”

“We’ve got the instigators that are coming in from the outside. They were coming in on buses
from out of state. If you go back and look at some of the arrests that were made last night.
I can about say probably 70% of those had out-of-state IDs. They’re not coming from
Charlotte,” he continued.

This draws parallels with the Ferguson riots in late 2014 which were bankrolled by billionaire George Soros.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT67glzFDIs

Read more: Charlotte Riots Show Hallmarks Of George Soros Operation

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/...operation.html


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Keith Scott’s Wife Releases Shocking Footage of His Shooting Death to NBC

By David on 24 September 2016 GMT

Wife of Keith Scott releases video of police shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBnUAb0lXjM

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...ng-footage-nbc

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RAW: Keith Lamont Scott shooting video released by family

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=333KFUBXxmo

Published on 23 Sep 2016
Keith Scott's family has released a video of officers from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg
Police Department fatally shooting, recorded by Scott’s wife. Video courtesy of the
Curry Law Firm.

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I was listening to Jim Marrs on Fade 2 Black from a couple days ago and he
has said many times violent crime is less than other eras in the US .It is only
highlighted on all types of media better. In this YT discussion below they ref in
past how cops did worse and often would plant a spare gun on a victim if they
had shot first asked questions later whether out of fear for their own safety or
a panic or even deliberate shooting. They discuss how the police departments
story is not adding up....


Charlotte Victim's Wife Posts Her Phone Footage (VIDEO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT8CEcL9wSE

[TargeT]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)

But I’m talking about system discriminations which permeate public education curriculum, mainstream media, wage gaps, laws, law enforcements, judicial systems, etc. (This is why racism tends to hide behind nationalism or patriotism.)

Can you elaborate? There is a meme (mostly instilled synthetically by social engineers I think) that tends to equate nationalism and patriotism with racism. Is this really true? Or just a conveniently conditioned belief? If it is the latter, it is certainly motivated by a very simple and obvious formula: 1. aggravate/ stir-up racial divisions, 2. attribute said divisions and bigotry to the national values, and 3. disavow the (backward) national values in favor of (more enlightened) aforementioned neo-feudalism global fascist sociopolitical order.

Sorry, unless you can convince me otherwise, I'm not takin' the bait...

Int.Fish: Wage gaps? Laws? you listed a lot of things that should have clear examples, very easy to show to be true. Can you list some of that?

I'm seeing a LOT of very common "talking points" right now, how much have you researched these things?

T Smith: I agree, this is much more complex than just the surface issue

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)


Are there more Black people in prison because they’re criminals? Or because they’re more likely to live in poverty, be turned down for work and get paid less? Or because ghettos are deliberately infiltrated with drug trade while Blacks are imprisoned for years for smoking weed or stealing a backpack? Are they racially profiled and targeted to meet police quotas? Even police members have revealed that their pressure to perform causes them to go after the most vulnerable, and they’re rewarded for it. Black slavery never ended; it was only rerouted to the prison system.

This is all quite true. But I would submit it's true probably not in the way you think it's true. It's true because it was engineered this way. Yes, there is systemic unconsciousness, but not necessarily systemic racism. There is, however, very specific racism (directed at all we human plebs en masse, really), applied by social engineering programs (see Margaret Sanger et. al), which has propagated the racial tensions and social conditions you describe, and which has resulted in moving the plantations of the deep south to the inner cities.

Turned down for work and paid less? please show evidence of that... if it were easy to play women, or blacks, or anyone less than someone else, they WOULD INSTANTLY BE HIRED MORE... or are you saying that racism out weighs greed and big corporations wouldn't notice a "paid less" phenomenon and immediately begin hiring that group for increased profits.

I don't think any of those situations exist as you think they do Int.Fish except for maybe the profiling.. but guess what, Profiling is not really based on race, it's based on who commits the most crime, not some super secret race conspiracy among police (that includes black officers as well). They aren't profiling elderly black people are they?

It's young black men... the same ones that commit 52% of the murders in the US, young black men (and mostly it's black on black crime). I see no racism there at all, just an issue that needs to be dealt with (differently that we currently are).

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)

I think racism has always been there, but it was buried, not just under a KKK mask but within our own belief systems that says people of color (or people who are “different”) are dangerous. But the buried issues are now surfacing. Followers of Donald Trump for example, feel more bold in expressing how they’ve always felt which comes across as hate, but I think is ultimately fear. It’s almost a trend but certainly a relief to be able to ramble off racist remarks that haven’t seen the light of day because it was a faux pas to do so.

Yes, it is and likely always will be there as long as we are humans... but more aptly called tribalism. Racism is a contrived concept. As humans, we are one race of many tribes and colors.

I think it was never racism, I think it was always tribalism; couldn't agree more with T Smith on this one.

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)

About being politically correct, people seem to hide behind this phrase when they want to express their bigotry without being called out on it. Yes, it’s hard to be sensitive to people with different experiences than ours. Yes, it takes work to change the way we speak and be careful and genuine with our words and language. It’s not easy to give up our cultural appropriation and privileged platforms to the voiceless to express their experiences…. But if we really wanted unity, wouldn’t we naturally end hostile and legal discrimination which divides us, and support people in their struggle for liberation? How can we expect to end our own enslavement while others suffer under theirs? That seems like a no-brainer to me.

People hide racism behind being politically correct? WTF? people are FORCED to be politically correct by the RACIST (IMO) regressive leftist movement.... Political correctness was forced on people by overly sensitive social justice warriors, not used to hide racism... Seems like an upside down world you live in.

**** POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, it is a disease and it is harmful to society.

The only legal discrimination that exists right now is against white males... nearly every other group gets a "benefit" just for being who they are.

Hiring quota's don't aim for a certain amount of white people do they? What do you think that kind of law does to a persons self image & self confidence? I'd certainly take issue if I was hired just to reach a number... I think those type of NAACP laws are stealth racism against the very people who acted to get them in place.

You mention ALL these egregious wrongs yet never give one example Int.Fish, why is that?

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)

White guilt. Unresolved guilt makes us do all kinds of whacky things such as believe we live in a post-racial society, claim “reverse racism” or think that people being torn from their families and homeland to become plantation slaves “wasn’t that bad.” If it wasn’t that bad, why did they risk and lose their lives escaping to the North or defecting to Britain - the subject of the racist U.S. national anthem?

I would ask you to try to look at this from a more broad and thought-provoking perspective. You have been taught the national anthem is racist, but I am suggesting (as my entire post implies) that you have been taught this for a specific reason. The truth is, at the height of the nation's tarnished history, only 8% of its population owned slaves in the United States. Is it fair to condemn the values of the entire country based on this 8% number? Isn't this kind of like throwing the baby out with the bath water? Slavery was also a global institution, existent everywhere on earth, when the United States was founded. My point is not to condone this 8%, nor suggest that the bath water shouldn't be changed, only to point out memes like this are being used to sell and dismantle national values (which so happen be founded on human freedom, and which likely precipitated the end of slavey as a legal institution) in place of (much more sinister) global values.

Food for thought... and welcome again to the forum!

Ahh I thought it wsa 6% of southerners, can you (you should IMO, always provide reference when numbers are used) provide a link to that 8%?

I've read 6% of southerners, which means only 1.4% of the total US population owned slaves...(yeah, that few).

I think white guilt is the space that you are functioning from when you "Believe" as you have shown you do. Find some facts to back up your assertions; and while you look try to do it objectively. Reality is quite a bit different I think you'll find (I did). You are feeling as you do because it is highly desired, someone wanted you to feel the way you do and you have been manipulated into that position in subtle ways.


ALL of this is a multi-goal distraction...


RIGHT NOW the US is very likely under investigation from the UN for our actions in Syria and the middle east.

Doesn't it seem convenient that the news is covering something else and not that? To me it seems like a very obvious situation; but I guess if your a racism believer you'll think the much more important one is the fabricated issue?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3C0kDDK_bR8

[T Smith]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Ahh I thought it wsa 6% of southerners, can you (you should IMO, always provide reference when numbers are used) provide a link to that 8%?

I've read 6% of southerners, which means only 1.4% of the total US population owned slaves...(yeah, that few).

The statistic was taken from the 1860 census. And actually it's 8% of families who owned slaves; you are right. The number of slaveholders only numbered approximately 1.25% of the population (according to the census).

[Innocent Warrior]

TargeT wrote -

"white dominated world" is just playing into what they are "selling" it has ALWAYS been about money & power; never about race.

Thank you! It’s a cultural problem and it’s a class problem and racism is nothing more than cultural programming and it shifts the focus away from the real problem.

Why doesn’t anybody talk about the racism against white people?

I grew up poor in a housing commission area with a lot of aborigines. My childhood was hell and that was a part of what made my life hell, because I am white.

If I was walking down the street and an aborigine was coming my way on the same side of the street, I’d cross the road. If I dared to stay on the same side I would pay for it when our paths met, I’d be bashed. If I dared to look at them I’d be bashed.

If I was in the park and they walked in, I knew to leave immediately, it was their park and if I didn’t leave I’d get bashed. I hated it when both my sister and I were in the park and they came in because my sister is stupid and stubborn. There would be at least a half a dozen of them, big kids and adults mind you and we were little girls, they’d see us in the park and they’d come to kick us out, they didn’t even want the park, they just didn’t want us in it. I’d see them coming, I’d alert my sister and tell her we have to go but she resisted and thought it wasn’t fair and refused to leave. Of course it wasn’t fair, but six (at least, on a good day) people with backup against two girls was not a fight we could win. My sister always refused to leave and I’d be be forced into a fight against a gang of aborigines. To their credit, they observed that I was trying to obey their rules but couldn’t leave my sister, so after a little while a couple of them would just hold me back while the rest of them bashed my sister. I had to watch them bash my sister, so the next stage was when I saw them coming into the park I’d just tell my sister and start walking. My sister still refused to leave but I knew how it would end, so I just left her there, knowing she was getting bashed as I walked away, I didn’t even look back. Does anyone here have any idea what that feels like? I was her big sister and I left her, I had to, I couldn’t’ take any more than I already was dealing with and she was being stupid.

Another one of their favourite moves was to send out a child with a big stick to whip me with as I walked past. If I dared even to tell the child to stop they’d threaten to bash me, so I’d have to just take it, this boy whipping me with a huge stick over and over again as I walked past and I could hear them all laughing from inside their houses at me.

I’ve had bottles thrown at me, been beaten, harassed, tormented and I can’t even write the names they would call us, they’re too horrible.

I was a little girl, we were just little girls and they were all ages, it didn’t matter, it was open season on us white you know whats and there was nothing we could do about it. We never even considered telling the police, they knew where we lived and our parents didn’t care about us, we had no protection but ourselves.

I could go on but I won’t, thinking about it still hurts and race debates make me angry. It’s a trap, does anyone really believe it matters what we fight about? The race card is an easy divider though. Too easy. And I know my place yeah, I’ve gotta keep my white privileged mouth shut and feel guilty for what has happened in the past.

I lived in that neighbourhood until I was fifteen years old.

Call me racist because I have feared them, because they taught me to, they beat the fear of them into me, they wanted me to be afraid, but this is my truth, to hell with what anyone thinks about what I’ve written on this. It’s all a game to the NWO boys cub and they’re laughing their arses off at us.

[Intuitive Fish]

Vasili, thank you so much for asking this question. To be honest, I was going to share this subject anyway even if no one asked, just in case any lurkers wanted to know. Here’s what I’ve learned so far:

• Understand what racism is and be aware of social programming (which you do and are, but I’m putting this out there for anyone/everyone.) Here are a few racist statements from this thread:
  
• “I’m overly cautious around black people with what I say and do.” This statement assumes all Black people (people with a certain skin color) are dangerous at some level to some degree.
  
• “In Canada we do not have , sorry, ghettos. And we don't have inner-city gangs. It is these that allow hate to spread.” Ghettos specifically belong to Black people because of enforced poverty. This statement blanket assumes all Black people are or are associated with gangs and spreading hate.
  
• “Of course, they have plenty of intra-community violence.” This statement assumes all people with black colored skin are violent.
  
• “I’ve never been a racist but…” Anytime you hear this phrase you know a racist statement is coming! Aaaaand… here it is: “lately I have been getting very pissed off at the attempts by so many blacks to blame whites for many of the circumstances in their lives.” This statement blames Black people for the racism they’re oppressed with, from people who identify as white. (This quote is a case in point.)
  
• “I still don't judge a person by their race but…” Oh no, not again! Here it comes…. “I certainly have become more and more upset with how many blacks seem to be so easily falling into the trap that has been laid for them.” Black-shaming, blaming, hating.
  
• “We focus on Syrian refugees and not the civil war causing the refugee crisis.” This is a more subtle form of racism and likely unintentional but also common. It assumes that a war (or any event) takes precedence over the people that war/event affects. It also blames Syrian people for Western war profiteering and military occupation in foreign lands.... A non-racist way to say the same thing might be: “The best way to help Syrian refugees (the people losing their safety, land and their homes) is to put an end to war profiteering, war propaganda and aggressive military foreign policies.”
  
• “Why doesn’t anybody talk about the racism against white people?” This is called "reverse racism." Reverse racism doesn’t and can’t exist because racism is one group exerting social, political and economic power over another group. The powerless group can’t exert power over the dominant group because the dominant group collectively possesses the majority of power. Look at the majority of people in power. They aren't Black, Hispanic, Syrian, Yemeni, Indigenous, etc. They're predominantly white or light skinned.... The darker the skin, the greater the oppression, generally speaking.
  
  The above statement also attempts to justify discrimination toward POC’s based on a white person's experience, elevating a white person’s experience above POC's. Why do you think people of color distrust and react non-desirably to people who identify as white? Would you also blame Jews for fearing and hating Nazis? Not that these reactions resolve the issue, but the issue isn’t that people of color are horrible people (which is racism.) The issue is that racism creates division and conflict on multiple levels. The problem isn’t Black people. The problem is racist institutional powers that oppress Black people. Discrimination against POC’s occur at a systemic level. Not to disregard your personal traumas, Innocent Warrior, because those are important too, but as far as this topic is concerned, racism is an officially sanctioned reality hiding behind the scenes which keeps you hostile toward races without institutional power. You’re targeting the wrong group of people - powerless people who have been suppressed and violently oppressed since the dawn of white colonialism.

So, when you know common racist themes such as the ones I pointed out, it’s easier to catch them when they pop up in our thoughts.

• When you catch them, you can correct the statement with a personal truth you genuinely believe. You might have to do this a lot!
  
• Guilt and shame are pointless. Simply understand that racism is an institutional construct, stop doing the harmful thing (as much as possible), commit to listening and learning and find genuine ways to support POC’s.

Here are some other things to know that I’ve learned from POC’s:

• Learn about their general histories (you might have to dig through underground info), their cultures, their slang and language, etc. This helps to understand their experiences.
  
• Don’t steal their cultures. Whitewashing appropriation not only destroys their culture but “white people” are praised for doing/wearing many things POC’s are harassed, assaulted and killed for.
  
• Be careful not to expect POC’s to speak “white English” because many don’t have an equal educational opportunity. Respect the way they speak even if it’s considered “broken” English or bad grammar.
  
• Don’t fetishize them or their cultures.
  
• Don’t use “not all white people…” to dismiss and erase the fact that all POC’s experience racism.
  
• When they share their stories, don’t derail the topic onto a different oppression and be careful not to insert yourself into the story as if entitled.
  
• Understand that POC’s are usually dealing with more than one kind of oppression such as involuntary poverty, classism, sexism, genderism, etc. Sometimes people focus on one and ignore the others, but all oppressions intersect.
  
• Not all POC’s agree with each other and that’s okay. You are only responsible for **you** and your views and actions.
  
• Don’t get your news about the Black, Muslim, Native Peoples... struggle from news networks, including alt media. Most media outlets are dominated by white people. Just look at highly influential late night TV shows… almost all are hosted by white males who claim to be "progressive." News outlets have a conflict of interest and either have to play it safe to maintain “integrity” and funding, or they have to wait for an “official statement.” I actually get my news from Twitter. Sure, it has its share of false info, but it’s the only way to get reporting from multiple sources with video footage and evidence from everyday people who are at the scene (as well as long Twitter threads meticulously scrutinizing said evidence) It’s also the only way to get the story in the first place as news outlets leave them out unless there’s a popular protest.

When you get to know people of color, their beliefs, struggles, etc, you’ll inevitably want to support them in their liberation (unless you don’t have a soul.) If you’re not a POC, here are some things to know when supporting them. I've learned a lot of these the hard way and am still learning:

• Watch out for “white savior complex.”
  
• Know that a “white” voice holds more weight and credibility than POC’s and can therefore easily hijack their narrative.
  
• Share their own unedited words crediting them before assuming to speak for them.
  
• Don’t expect them to educate anyone - this creates an extra burden for them on top of the burdens they’re already dealing with, plus they may not feel comfortable speaking about their experiences as there is always a backlash and repercussions in doing so; we should’ve already done our own research anyway.
  
• Don’t say, “I don’t see color.” It’s important to acknowledge they’re a unique race, and so are their experiences.
  
• Don’t equate your tough times with their tough times. They have unique and greater struggles within the system matrix.
  
• Know that you’re going to mess up. Unintentional slips will slip. Simply admit the mistake, make any reparations if possible and welcomed, and move on.
  
• Don’t use their friendship to alleviate guilt or as a token friend. Just be their friend (if consensual.) Don’t we all just want authentic friends?
  
• There’s a lot I’m missing but this is already risking a tl;dr. But now that I think about it, this is good info for any relationship and can probably be filed under Common Sense or Basic Human Respect.

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I have a feeling a didn't respond in the right place and in the right way. Apologies!

[Innocent Warrior]

“Why doesn’t anybody talk about the racism against white people?” This is called "reverse racism." Reverse racism doesn’t and can’t exist because racism is one group exerting social, political and economic power over another group. The powerless group can’t exert power over the dominant group because the dominant group collectively possesses the majority of power. Look at the majority of people in power. They aren't Black, Hispanic, Syrian, Yemeni, Indigenous, etc. They're predominantly white or light skinned.... The darker the skin, the greater the oppression, generally speaking.

You're seeing what you want to and not what I wrote, they were the dominant group.

[Atlas]

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)
Don’t say, “I don’t see color.” It’s important to acknowledge they’re a unique race, and so are their experiences.

Thank you Intuitive Fish, I agree with your post. Yet, I'm still unable to see any difference in color, human beings are only one race, different genetic makeups are sub-races of the same species.

I met a South African lady one day who told me: "I don't need to go to Africa to see monkeys, there are plenty of them at the local zoo already"...

...and she looked something like this:


I didn't say anything but my first thought was: "I don't need to go anywhere to see a pig, here's one sitting just in front of me"

What I'm trying to say is that there are no races, religions or nationalities, there's only the human species, belonging to the family of great apes.

[Intuitive Fish]

As a side note, I'm not even sure what the "white race" is? It doesn't seem to have or belong to a particular culture, language, land or other origins that can be defined or identified. Is it really a race?

The Census Bureau defines people from the Middle East and North Africa as "white" and also includes Caucasians. Also, some Asians are whiter than some Europeans. So the concept isn't based on skin tone.

Apparently, the concept of "white people" or "white race" came into use (in the way we use it today) in the late 17th century in connection with racialized slavery and European colonialism. If so, this seems to imply racism is inherent to the "white race" identifier.

[Intuitive Fish]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by Intuitive Fish (here)
Don’t say, “I don’t see color.” It’s important to acknowledge they’re a unique race, and so are their experiences.

Thank you Intuitive Fish, I agree with your post. Yet, I'm still unable to see any difference in color, human beings are only one race, different genetic makeup are sub-races of the same species.

I met a South African lady one day who told me: "I don't need to go to Africa to see monkeys, there are plenty of them at the local zoo already"

...and she looked something like this:


I didn't say anything but my first thought was: "I don't need to go anywhere to see a pig, here's one sitting just in front of me"

What I'm trying to say is that there are no races, religions or nationalities, there's only the human species, belonging to the family of great apes.

Hopefully I'm posting correctly. Someone please let me know if I'm not!

Atlas, yes, I understand your well-meaning intention and I think that's a legitimate perspective. But I'm not sure why you'd want to erase the diversity of races, religions and nationalities? Would you also eliminate the different kinds of plant life and fish in the sea?

To me, rich diverse cultures, languages, customs, religions and races... make up the beauty of existence on this planet and in this universe. We can equally respect each one while acknowledging their differences.

In fact, I have a motto that says unity means nothing if it doesn't include diversity. Otherwise, it's just communism. <--- If I could find the laughing smiley with the tears, I'd put it here.

I'll ignore your fat-shaming comment since that's a whole different topic. : )

[Intuitive Fish]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)

“Why doesn’t anybody talk about the racism against white people?” This is called "reverse racism." Reverse racism doesn’t and can’t exist because racism is one group exerting social, political and economic power over another group. The powerless group can’t exert power over the dominant group because the dominant group collectively possesses the majority of power. Look at the majority of people in power. They aren't Black, Hispanic, Syrian, Yemeni, Indigenous, etc. They're predominantly white or light skinned.... The darker the skin, the greater the oppression, generally speaking.

You're seeing what you want to and not what I wrote, they were the dominant group.

The dominant group in your personal experience doesn't necessarily represent the institutional power over the planet.

You could be a white rabbit living in a neighborhood of black rabbits while white rabbits assume political power over the whole kingdom.

[stevcolx]

Race Wars, Shootings, Riots? These look like more suspicious False Flags. Just as well the US now has thousands of Foreign UN Troops stationed all over in US Bases. They have no qualms with shooting American Citizens. Added to that the hundreds of Armored Cars at their disposal too. I don't see these events as shootings and riots. I see them as a prelude to Martial Law and the disarmament of the American people!

[DNA]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)

“Why doesn’t anybody talk about the racism against white people?” This is called "reverse racism." Reverse racism doesn’t and can’t exist because racism is one group exerting social, political and economic power over another group. The powerless group can’t exert power over the dominant group because the dominant group collectively possesses the majority of power. Look at the majority of people in power. They aren't Black, Hispanic, Syrian, Yemeni, Indigenous, etc. They're predominantly white or light skinned.... The darker the skin, the greater the oppression, generally speaking.

You're seeing what you want to and not what I wrote, they were the dominant group.

I've heard what you wrote. And it is my opinion that racism can exist in the microcosm as well as the macrocosm as such I feel your statement is completely valid.


Racism exists as an attitude within individuals, not just as a sociological references to determine what one large population has done to another large population of persons.

Innocent Warrior I know something about what you are talking about.
I've gone through a lot of similar experiences as a child.


In the end I know what happened to me is not the true fault of the perpetrators, more or less I've always known the blame rested with my parents for allowing me to be in harms way.


My experiences occurred in the seventies and early eighties, and race tensions were very high. Especially living in the impoverished areas that were basically deemed only suitable for those with black skin color. So you and I we were basically easy scape goats and targets for a lot of sociological black rage.


On the farm there is a term known as "ratting" a dog. You take a dog at the age you would consider him a large puppy, about six months. You then take the dog and place him in a cloth bag with a rat. The rat and dog will fight to the death, after which ussually the dog wins and after that this horrible situation the dog will forever hate rats, and will hunt and kill them on the farm when ever the opportunity presents itself.


Suffering the abuse you did, I'm sorry. I was in and out of black neighborhoods as a kid, I didn't live my whole childhood in one.
But when I reflect on the horrible things that happened to me and my little sister, I personally blame my mother who is not capable of understanding the reality of the situation for what it was. Regardless of how poor you are, there are always places you could have lived within the confines of your own race. To not understand the obvious sociological situation going on around you, this was a situation your parents and mine should have been able to steer us clear from. The analogy stands I think. It was like a mother rat knowingly moving her children under the porch of a ratted dog. And in this case do you really blame the dog? You as a child could not have fully understood the situation and I'm sorry these things happened to you, but your parents should have known. As should have mine.

[Innocent Warrior]

Posted by DNA (here)
And in this case do you really blame the dog? You as a child could not have fully understood the situation and I'm sorry these things happened to you, but your parents should have known. As should have mine.

DNA, your post is so kind, thank you so much for that.

I hope it would have been stating the obvious to say I don’t blame those aborigines (other than where the fear came from), or that they’re not all racist and other things I feel I’m supposed to say to make that perfectly clear. I understand that by having white skin, with my experience, that that is assumed by me saying anything about it, by a lot of people, in my experience. I’m not assuming you thought that btw, DNA, but do want to take this opportunity to make that clear.

Nobody ever had to teach me not to be racist or not to believe all aborigines are, I learned from experience. My first boyfriend was aboriginal, nothing serious, just kid stuff. He sent me a letter and told me he thought I was cute and asked if we could hang out. We only got to hang out once though because the girls became really angry about it. They told me to stay away from him and threatened me. I think it was that night or soon after that I was walking home from the shop (yep, my parents used to send me to the shop at night) and a woman came out of her house to me and informed me she was walking me home. That’s all she said. Well the aborigines must have respected her. About every 20 metres a male aborigine stood (looked like older teens), waiting to bash me but each one just peeled off and walked away as we passed them. I was going to get beaten all the way home, so we never saw each other again.

My point wasn’t even that we should be talking about racism against white people (or people with white skin, whatever is pc these days), I was trying to say that racism is senseless and that the real issues aren’t about race. I’m convinced that if the real social issues were solved then racism would melt away as an effect.

Back to your analogy, DNA, this rat doesn’t blame the dog (I don’t even blame the mother rat). Their (aborigines) parents weren’t any better than ours, none of us got a fair start.

[Hervé]

Here is an interesting, very disgusting piece of suppressed history:


IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES

Monday, March 16, 2015

They came as slaves: human cargo transported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

But are we talking about African slavery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies.

By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade.

Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.

Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.

Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.

African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (£50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than £5 Sterling). If a planter whipped, branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African.

The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce.

Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish mothers, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their children and would remain in servitude.

In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls (many as young as 12) with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves.

This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.

England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.

There is little question the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more, in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is also little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry.

In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end its participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded this chapter of Irish misery.

But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong. Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.

But, why is it so seldom discussed? Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims not merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?

Or is their story to be the one that their English masters intended: To completely disappear as if it never happened.

None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.

Interesting historical note: the last person killed at the Salem Witch Trials was Ann Glover. She and her husband had been shipped to Barbados as a slave in the 1650's. Her husband was killed there for refusing to renounce catholicism.

In the 1680's she was working as a housekeeper in Salem. After some of the children she was caring for got sick she was accused of being a witch.

At the trial they demanded she say the Lord's Prayer. She did so, but in Gaelic, because she didn't know English. She was then hung.

To learn more you can go to the following sources:

Political Education Committee (PEC)
American Ireland Education Foundation
54 South Liberty Drive, Suite 401
Stony Point NY 10980


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Arthur Percoval Newton, The European Nations in the West Indies 1493-1688, London, J. Dickens & Co, Reprint 1967 Page: 163 Note: 4

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Of course, then, there is the origin of the word "slave" tied to the "Slavic People."

[Cidersomerset]

I'm watching this Cross talk episode and have posted it on WW111 and is very interesting
as usual and worth watching . But also Scott Bennett ties it into some of the recent disturbances
in the US and Canada , as we speculate all the time. There are also several shooting and
stabbing incidents and there are usually reports daily.....

https://www.davidicke.com/headlines

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Former Psyops Officer: Recent Domestic Terror Events Designed To Distract Attention Away From Syria

By David on 25 September 2016 GMT



Scott Bennett, formerly of the U.S. Army 11th Psychological Operations Battalion, told RT the dumpster
bombing in New York, a pipe bomb explosion prior to a charity race in New Jersey for Marines and Navy
sailors, and a potential bomb threat resulting in the closing of 60 schools in the Canadian province of
Prince Edward Island were part of a psychological operation to draw attention away from an effort by
the US to step up the war in Syria.

Scrub to 12 minutes, 34 seconds on the video below to view Bennett’s claim.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PLVixaAgxVk

[Atlas]

Posted by DNA (here)
[...] the dog will forever hate [...]

French had a similar technique:

At the end of the nineteenth century in Britanny, the sardine canneries were infested with rats. [...]

We had the idea of sewing a rat's ass with a big horsehair. Unable to normally reject the food, the rat, continuing to eat, became mad with grief and rage. It turned into a mini-beast, a real terror to his peers [...]

The worker who accepted to accomplish this dirty business got the favor of management, a salary increase and received a promotion as a forewoman.

Couseuse de cul de rat: "A la fin du XIXème siècle, en Bretagne, les conserveries de sardines étaient infestées de rats. Personne ne savait comment se débarasser de ces petits animaux. Pas question d'introduire des chats, qui auraient préféré manger des sardines immobiles plutôt que des rongeurs fuyants. On eut l'idée de coudre le cul d'un rat vivant avec un gros crin de cheval. Dans l'impossibilité de rejeter normalement la nourriture, le rat, continuant à manger, devenait fou de douleur et de rage. Il se transformait en mini-fauve, véritable terreur pour ses congénères qu'il blessait et faisait fuir. L'ouvrière qui acceptait d'accomplir cette sale besogne obtenait les faveurs de la direction, une augmentation de salaire et recevait une promotion au titre de contremaîtresse. Mais pour les autres ouvrières de la sardinerie, la "couseuse de cul de rat" était une traîtresse. Car tant que l'une d'elles accepterait de coudre le cul des rats, cette répugnante pratique se perpétuerait."

insane..

[Cidersomerset]

Here is an interesting, very disgusting piece of suppressed history:
IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES
Monday, March 16, 2015

Good point I was going to post yesterday about the Barbary Pirates and the slave
raids around the med and UK. Also around the same time of the Irish disaster , UK
citizens were also being sold into 'bondage' and the attempt after the death of
Charles the second , one of his 'bastard' son's James Duke of Monmouth tried to
seize the throne , against Charles 11 brother James 11. The result was the failure
of his claim at the Battle of Sedgemoor a couple miles from Bridgwater and many
citizens from the South west of England and elsewhere who got caught up in the
rebellion were either hung at the 'Bloody Assizes ' by the infamous Judge Jeffries,
and many were sold into bondage/slavery in the West Indies to man the
plantations. This was just before the African slave trade started in earnest
and when the call for abolishing the slave trade took off seriously in the 19th
century it was the MP for Bridgwater who was one of the first to petition for it to
end. Memories were still raw with what happened to family members 150 year
earlier...... I have got this in more detail in a thread somewhere...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedgemoor


http://www.bridgwatertowncouncil.gov...r-and-slavery/

Of course various types of slavery still goes on today from all ethnic groups
Sex ,economic and more.....

Slavery Today

There are an estimated 20.9 Million people trapped in some form of slavery today.
It’s sometimes called “Modern-Day Slavery” and sometimes “Human Trafficking." At
all times it is slavery at its core.

read more....
http://www.endslaverynow.org/learn/s...FUaVGwod3BII1g

[Hervé]

Posted by Atlas (here)
[...]
Couseuse de cul de rat: ...
[...]

insane..

... or how to create a psychopath in just a few days... mental health and gut fauna and flora... there definitely is something to it!