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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    If you are really that concerned, please provide some proof about the "facts that you know are false".
    Decent people want the lid blown off the whole phenomena from the ground floor up, and if the press has been complicit and law enforcement teams haven't been able to expose the elite perverts, I think it's a very good sign that the public are attempting to take up where Wikileaks left off.
    I think people are wise enough to know that exposing the elite will be effective from the top down, since those in power will be likely to turn a blind eye to those operations at the lowest levels, inasmuch as that is the source of their victims in many instances, apparently.
    If enough people become convinced this is real and begin acting in whatever way they can, even if they are not expert or professional in their attempts, sooner or later, it should have a worthwhile effect.
    It's crtainly encouraging that you are supportive of groups who are working to rescue children caught in the web, but it seems a little strange that you are not more supportive of the public's attempts to get involved and help, so I think you should be prepared to be called out for some proof of your allegations that pizzagate and twittergate are based on lies.
    The evidence so far may not be conclusive, but it looks pretty convincing to me.
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    The networks are run by ruthless gangster mobs and the demand continues to grow. The law enforcement teams working on this are risking their lives every day. I have a friend who is a slave retriever, goes into bordellos and rescues the children, and he has survived over 6 assassination attempts. Not everyone is so lucky. The trafficking spiraled out of control after 911 due largely to the internet. Efforts with protocol of witnessing trafficking in action on buses, trains, planes, has saved thousands of children. There are a lot of organizations out there that are doing actual WORK to face this and deal with it. Innocents at Risk is an awareness organization that has actually done a lot to get different agencies to work collaboratively and more effectively.

    btw - it's extremely hard these days to discern real news from fake news. The pizza gate was an alarm bell as it is in my literal backyard and directly in my life and really smart people were convinced of certain "facts" that I know for FACT are FALSE. The war we are in right now is perception, information, and psychological. This article should be mandatory reading for all well intentioned internet users of "news":

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc..._medium=social
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    Onawah, "supportive of the public's attempts to get involved and help"....do you get involved in police investigations? does it help to promote conspiracies based on doctored emails and photos that have no relationships? Remember when witches were burned at the stake? That was the "public" doing its job to stop the bad women. This is the same. I have never publicly had to defend anyone against false accusations but in this situation I have been gobsmacked.

    Now you want to call me out? Are you a detective? You want the public to do something? You realize that the Police AND the FBI have investigated and found that this is a manipulated political hate crime directed at James. This is about pizza, not babies. That video clip somebody posted of a young woman "putting it all together" ...if that's your proof, my god, have mercy on your soul. Reality check: people do talk about "doing pizza" because it is a meeting point for many of us to yes, "eat pizza and hang out". James is an incredible chef. He has 2 restaurants next to each other and there is a great book store. the whole block is a place where people come together and the language has nothing to do with babies being eaten.

    As for taking off where Wikileaks left off - Wiki has been a direct messaging source for Russian intelligence. Their mission was to destroy Hilary by any means necessary. That s not over and no, I am not her fan at all. Their mission of confusing and disseminating information of this kind is not over, clearly. and btw the Russian mob is at the top of human trafficking gangs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)

    ...really smart people were convinced of certain "facts" that I know for FACT are FALSE...

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc..._medium=social
    Actually I was rather hoping you would elaborate on this statement also. I don't think that can be termed calling you out?

    As to the article, yes, that is disturbing.

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    I do know for a fact that human trafficking exist, and trafficking of underage young teenagers as sex slaves exists as well. I do know that the revenue generated from people traficking is more than that from drug trafficking. Therefore, there has to be a whole lot of trafficking and a whole lot of people involved at all levels.


    Two groups of teenage sex slaves was discovered in my neighborhood, in fact, a few neighbours with keen eyes - mostly mothers - told the police what they were seeing, one group was caught where the young girls could go out, the other group where teenagers were slaves locked in an apartment moved out a day prior to the police intervention and were never caught, neither the pimps, neither the kids - it is utterly frustrating - it does exist and it is basically next door to all of us, wherever we live in Europe and America.


    Believe me, they are prudent and one have to have a keen eye to observe anything wrong, since the kid are jailed in apartments - I had seen nothing for the worst group, and when told what to look for, then I realised it was true and that even my daughter had been watched when coming and going in my house, as a potential prey. A chill went through my spine and the whole neighborhood started to help the police.

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    I am also pretty sure that as with drug trafficking, there is quite a lot of high level rich people running human trafficking and some politicians are involved, no doubts. Where there is money there is humanrie (greed and exploitation)


    I am aware of the russian mafia being instrumental in human trafficking as well as Chinese mafia.


    And yes, I believe that Russia and China are well trained to meddle in our politics and make trouble (mostly with Hillary who wanted war), as USA and other agents are for doing the reciprocal in China and Russia. And therefore, they could have been helping Hillary's demise with all necessary means, including damaging her friends (which she would also have done to others anytime if she needed it, those levels are snake pits).


    However, If Todd and Nora tell us this pizza place is not doing kids trafficking, I have a tendency to believe our long standing members, they are the daily witnesses in their own environment. As long as they are keen observers and keep their eyes opened, I will believe them.


    But I also know how subtle the signs of human trafficking are, most people, like me, would not notice anything.


    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    Onawah, "supportive of the public's attempts to get involved and help"....do you get involved in police investigations? does it help to promote conspiracies based on doctored emails and photos that have no relationships? Remember when witches were burned at the stake? That was the "public" doing its job to stop the bad women. This is the same. I have never publicly had to defend anyone against false accusations but in this situation I have been gobsmacked.

    Now you want to call me out? Are you a detective? You want the public to do something? You realize that the Police AND the FBI have investigated and found that this is a manipulated political hate crime directed at James. This is about pizza, not babies. That video clip somebody posted of a young woman "putting it all together" ...if that's your proof, my god, have mercy on your soul. Reality check: people do talk about "doing pizza" because it is a meeting point for many of us to yes, "eat pizza and hang out". James is an incredible chef. He has 2 restaurants next to each other and there is a great book store. the whole block is a place where people come together and the language has nothing to do with babies being eaten.

    As for taking off where Wikileaks left off - Wiki has been a direct messaging source for Russian intelligence. Their mission was to destroy Hilary by any means necessary. That s not over and no, I am not her fan at all. Their mission of confusing and disseminating information of this kind is not over, clearly. and btw the Russian mob is at the top of human trafficking gangs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    No, I'm not calling you out, just asking you to elaborate with some proof, if you have any. I have no desire whatsoever to get into an emotional debate with you or anyone else, I just asked some reasonable questions of someone who claims to have insider information, which hopefully you will share.
    But I don't really consider the Washington Post to be a credible source of information, much less insider information.
    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    Onawah, "supportive of the public's attempts to get involved and help"....do you get involved in police investigations? does it help to promote conspiracies based on doctored emails and photos that have no relationships? Remember when witches were burned at the stake? That was the "public" doing its job to stop the bad women. This is the same. I have never publicly had to defend anyone against false accusations but in this situation I have been gobsmacked.

    Now you want to call me out? Are you a detective? You want the public to do something? You realize that the Police AND the FBI have investigated and found that this is a manipulated political hate crime directed at James. This is about pizza, not babies. That video clip somebody posted of a young woman "putting it all together" ...if that's your proof, my god, have mercy on your soul. Reality check: people do talk about "doing pizza" because it is a meeting point for many of us to yes, "eat pizza and hang out". James is an incredible chef. He has 2 restaurants next to each other and there is a great book store. the whole block is a place where people come together and the language has nothing to do with babies being eaten.

    As for taking off where Wikileaks left off - Wiki has been a direct messaging source for Russian intelligence. Their mission was to destroy Hilary by any means necessary. That s not over and no, I am not her fan at all. Their mission of confusing and disseminating information of this kind is not over, clearly. and btw the Russian mob is at the top of human trafficking gangs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    Todd & Nora - some of your recent posts are coming across to me as being defensive, by means of somewhat over the top counter attacks.

    My take is that there is indeed a "there there" ... something substantial and seriously wrong here. I make no claim to having specific, vetted facts or sworn testimony that would be sufficient to prove anything. But the patterns run too deep, for far too long, in the history of the powerful on this planet. I trust the reports of others, such as Flash above, indicating that there is indeed a "there there" ... and it's dark and evil there.
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    I'm going to cross post this here (from #Twittergate thread).

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    I'm only 25% into The Franklin Scandal, it covers all the above and much more. What is clear is there were elements of many law enforcement bodies, incl. the FBI, with full knowedge of child abuse. Furthemore they went out of their way to protect the continued existence of the practices and facillitate transportation (across state lines) of minors to 'parties' where politicians were often to be seen.

    There was a 'care' home in the equation and certain adoptive parents were serial abusers who were given protection from the very authorities that were supposed to be caring for children.

    The majority of people in the case were horrified and tried to do what they could, but due to the actions of a few in powerful positions they all found themselves pushed away, ignored, told to back off etc.

    It seems it is not periodically happening, it is always happening and only periodically surfacing.

    With the e-mail scandal, Wikileaks, FBI declarations of nothing to see here, the rapid closing of all discussion threads on social media and the most recent - The Washington Post's speed of denial in a 'fake news' announcement there should be a massive investigation underway, not silence! The Washington Post thing is almost laughable because they are journalists who are supposed to investigate and report news. Not deny its existence before even looking at the relative merits of claims - and people still don't see the game right in front of them. I saw people yesterday literally quoting the WP's stance and that was that, case closed.

    edit to add: Just want to mention there were also cops who were trying to do the right thing, even to the length of carrying out an investigation without the knowledge of their boss and not handing reports to the office stenographer for typing.
    As far as I understand it #twittergate sprang directly from people investigating #pizzagate so there has to be 'something' there. Unless #twittergate is #fakenews.

    God I hate #hashtags.

    If there is such a large volume of teenagers being trafficed where are they all going to? As the book I mentioned in the quote above indicates, or hints at, there is always money/power involved in these things. Silence bought with fear (and bribery).

    A frequently used, and condoned, practice of the alphabet agencies here and abroad but it doesn't happen in Washington DC? None of the trafficed minors end up in Washington's sordid embrace?

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    Incidentally, I still think Wikileaks is free of Russian influence despite your stated opinion. But, if you are right then is it not just part of the great game. Bringing down one cabal to replace it with a fresh new coat of paint?

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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    referencing one item in post #31 above - a comment about friends being put in harms way for going after the "system" of slavery and traffic'ing..

    although Aaron is not a close personal friend, I did meet him once in DC, and his vibe is genuine.

    a couple quotes from http://osocio.org/message/aaron-cohen/ an interview they did with Aaron Cohen. "Aaron Cohen: As Darkness Disappears – Fighting slavery today"

    Quote Q: Since then you landed on a death list put out by an extremist publication linked to Al Qaeda ending your 12-year career in the music industry.
    Do you get many death threats? How do you deal with these?


    A: In the days prior to 911 lot’s of human rights activists were put on death lists if they spoke out about slavery in Sudan. It was something that awed me to learn more about Al Qaeda and their motives. It did change my life after 911, as the culture of fear crept even into the concert world I was working in, and the articles written about it in New York added to the hysteria.

    Clearly it changed my life and I learned to live off the grid so to speak. To be less accessible.

    I do get people upset and threatening me quite a bit even now.

    That’s what happens when you hurt someone’s financial enterprise, but I learned early to stop playing who are the good guys and who are the bad guys, and instead to see the light in each set of eyes….to try and see all people as having that divine spark in them.

    If we could string the light together in people both good and not so good, then maybe the darkness just might disappear. This is how we deal with the issue, by realizing we’re growing through these experiences, by meditating on our enemies and trying our best to love them. Just as the darkness disappears when we turn the light on, so the fear goes away when we’re living our love for everyone.

    Q: Let’s make one thing clear: human trafficking is not a Muslim inclination. You have met a lot more of it with other groups. It is an economic consequence, right?

    A: Well, of course economics is a major component of the problem, but I see it also related to greed and lust for power.

    I’ve been involved with trafficking victims from affluent families, and I’ve seen poor people looking for work get sucked into the machine of slavery.

    From the victim side, poverty is certainly an issue, but from the side of the traffickers themselves and from the demand side, lust and greed play into the equation.

    Q: Could you tell our readers how the situation in the world is – where is human trafficking most rampant? Who is behind it? Can you give us numbers?

    Human trafficking is the fastest growing illegal business in the world, it’s already passed arms sales and its in position to pass drug sales when you factor in prostitution and pornography.

    Basically, human trafficking is everywhere you go, whether in the United States, England, India, Cambodia, or Brazil…slavery is everywhere.

    The UN has recently released some new statistics that seem to indicate that at any one given time, millions of people are being trafficked. Statisticians and scholars tend to side with the the lowest numbers citing the available data, but the real data just isn’t there.

    Most say there’s somewhere close to 27 million slaves world wide, but really, we don’t know the numbers.

    What we do know is that globalization and the Internet are breeding a new generation of pedophiles and sex addicts.

    We know that there are not enough women willing to enter the industry on their own to satisfy the demand for illicit sex for sale.

    Our society is becoming more sex centered, and pornography is bigger than all media combined at an estimated 100 billion dollars a year. Prostitution is also a multi hundred billion dollar business, so if you do the real math, it’s easy to see that the human trafficking statistics we’re relying on now are just the tip of a massive ice berg that’s growing bigger by the minute.

    Through globalization, the Internet, social media, and technology, the ease with which traffickers are subjugating human beings into slavery is increasing exponentially.

    The discussion should not just be about who is behind it, but also how can we as a society work to be aware of our own place in the subjugation of others.

    Are we using anti slavery aps from Not For Sale or Slave Free?

    Are we checking bar codes on the things we buy to see if they were manufactured with slave labor? We all need to pay attention to this because there are these companion industries in manufacturing, in pornography, in prostitution, modeling, and tourism that are feeding the problem, and the traffickers are out there more and more, luring human beings into slavery.
    Maybe take a look at http://osocio.org/message/aaron-cohen/ for some more of the story


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    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    You realize that the Police AND the FBI have investigated and found that this is a manipulated political hate crime directed at James.
    That may be ... though I admit to not entirely trusting such reported investigations ... however at least one well placed former FBI official has reportedly stated that there is a major problem with pedophilia in America.

    From FBI: 'Epidemic' levels of pedophilia, child sex trafficking (Washington Examiner):

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    By Barbara Boland • 7/30/15 10:33 AM

    Pedophilia in the U.S. is "unprecedented" and has reached an almost "epidemic level," according to assistant director of the FBI's Criminal Investigative Division Joseph Campbell.

    Although the FBI rescued 600 children last year, the FBI believes that tens of thousands of children are still being sexually exploited. Hundreds of children are sold every night for sex, the BBC reported in an investigative piece on child sex trafficking in the U.S.

    "The level of pedophilia is just unprecedented right now," Campbell said. "We have so many cases constantly of individuals in all walks of life, from the very wealthy … to all other levels engaged in child pornography, child exploitation … it just seems to be almost an at epidemic level."

    The vast majority of the children trafficked in the U.S. are not Mexican or Central American, but are American.

    Women from the East Coast to the Midwest tell "frighteningly similar and horrific stories," reported the BBC. "Neglected, abused, exploited and often ignored starting from a young age — sometimes even prosecuted by the very people who should have protected them."

    Girls are manipulated and taken advantage of before being trafficked, according to Jenny Gaines, who works at Breaking Free, a Minnesota-based advocacy group that helps former sex workers.

    Half the women at Breaking Free's support group were under 18 when they were first sold for sex, and many were not much older than 18, reported the BBC.

    One woman said "when [her abuser] actually found out how old I was [14] it didn't stop him ... he wanted me even more."

    One woman the BBC spoke to was five months pregnant and still on the streets. She said she "was groomed from age 12 by a neighbor, who enticed her with a garage full of toys and games. He offered her money for topless photos," reports the BBC.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    That may be ... though I admit to not entirely trusting such reported investigations ... however at least one well placed former FBI official has reportedly stated that there is a major problem with pedophilia in America.

    From FBI: 'Epidemic' levels of pedophilia, child sex trafficking (Washington Examiner):
    Here's an earlier source for these reported quotes by Joseph Campbell of the FBI, who reportedly told this to the BBC in July of 2015: FBI: Child Abuse ‘Almost at an Epidemic Level’ in U.S. (Time.com)

    Cidersomerset posted this on Avalon at the time: How Jimmy was able to Fix it !!! -- Post #1525.
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    This is ridiculous. I am embarrassed for Project Avalon for pushing this ****. Modern day witch hunt.
    I'm not hunting anything, I'm compiling information. I'm happy to include yours in the pile when you provide something more than emotional statements and, seemingly implied, inside knowledge.

    I'm not interested in conclusions, I'm interested in patterns.

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    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    The networks are run by ruthless gangster mobs and the demand continues to grow. The law enforcement teams working on this are risking their lives every day. I have a friend who is a slave retriever, goes into bordellos and rescues the children, and he has survived over 6 assassination attempts. Not everyone is so lucky. The trafficking spiraled out of control after 911 due largely to the internet. Efforts with protocol of witnessing trafficking in action on buses, trains, planes, has saved thousands of children. There are a lot of organizations out there that are doing actual WORK to face this and deal with it. Innocents at Risk is an awareness organization that has actually done a lot to get different agencies to work collaboratively and more effectively.

    btw - it's extremely hard these days to discern real news from fake news. The pizza gate was an alarm bell as it is in my literal backyard and directly in my life and really smart people were convinced of certain "facts" that I know for FACT are FALSE. The war we are in right now is perception, information, and psychological. This article should be mandatory reading for all well intentioned internet users of "news":

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc..._medium=social
    It has been a long time since I posted here, but this entire Pizza Gate thing is extremely disturbing, and made even more so by the mainstream media's current onslaught (especially the NYT) of "fake news" exposes, trying to convince everyone that any news that does not originate with them is "fake." It reminds me of what happened with the police during the Boston Marathon Bombing, when they were telling everyone to "look at these guys, not those guys...." when the users on alternative sites like 4Chan and Reddit were finding all kinds of inconsistencies in the mainstream version of the story. Attempted mind control at its best? So what makes this NPR story about alleged "fake" news creators any different? Isn't it possible that NPR made up this whole story about this guy who creates fake news in order to reassure those people who still rely on NPR for their news (truth) that something like this could never happen -- and who would really like to dismiss the whole thing because it's too disturbing anyway?

    Ask yourself Todd & Nora, does NPR and its benefactors benefit from people dismissing this absolutely horrid story that ties pedophilia a little too close for comfort to high level political players? Any alarm bells going off at all when every major newspaper seems to be focusing a little too obviously on weeding out "fake news" just as this stuff is erupting? Surprising that you could be a member of PA and not have any doubts about MSM's take on things....

    BTW, another red flag in this NPR story: the assertion that the only ones falling for the "fake news" are those dumb "Trump Supporters" because liberals just don't fall for it..... Wow. Really? A little pandering to the NPR audience: "Oh yes, those dumb Trump Supporters fall for everything. Good thing I'm a smart, educated NPR listener. Good thing I rely on Snopes." (and BTW, I have always considered myself a liberal. I am also neither a Trump nor Clinton supporter -- they are the same in my book).

    Anyway, would like to know what parts of the Comet Ping-Pong/Podesta story you think are "fake" since you seem to know some of the alleged players. Other than simply asserting that it's all politically motivated and perpetuated by completely false/doctored images, I haven't heard much in the way of real information that would tend to exonerate those implicated. Which parts are doctored? Are none of the images real? Are the Wikileaks emails not real? Are the hackers all liars or idiots? Personally, I read the Wikileaks pizza-related posts by Podesta and they are extremely strange -- they certainly seem like "code" to me. And unless all of the images that are going around about Comet Ping-Pong and its owner are fake, at the very least, this guy has some twisted taste in "art" as you say.

    I think James Corbett has the proper approach to this: gather evidence and see what emerges -- or doesn't. But in my opinion, shutting down subreddits and calling it a witchhunt or claiming that it is all politically motivated definitely raises red flags in a community like this where trust in the MSM and the PTB is generally, and deservedly, very low.

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    The networks are run by ruthless gangster mobs and the demand continues to grow. The law enforcement teams working on this are risking their lives every day. I have a friend who is a slave retriever, goes into bordellos and rescues the children, and he has survived over 6 assassination attempts. Not everyone is so lucky. The trafficking spiraled out of control after 911 due largely to the internet. Efforts with protocol of witnessing trafficking in action on buses, trains, planes, has saved thousands of children. There are a lot of organizations out there that are doing actual WORK to face this and deal with it. Innocents at Risk is an awareness organization that has actually done a lot to get different agencies to work collaboratively and more effectively.

    btw - it's extremely hard these days to discern real news from fake news. The pizza gate was an alarm bell as it is in my literal backyard and directly in my life and really smart people were convinced of certain "facts" that I know for FACT are FALSE. The war we are in right now is perception, information, and psychological. This article should be mandatory reading for all well intentioned internet users of "news":

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechc..._medium=social
    It has been a long time since I posted here, but this entire Pizza Gate thing is extremely disturbing, and made even more so by the mainstream media's current onslaught (especially the NYT) of "fake news" exposes, trying to convince everyone that any news that does not originate with them is "fake." It reminds me of what happened with the police during the Boston Marathon Bombing, when they were telling everyone to "look at these guys, not those guys...." when the users on alternative sites like 4Chan and Reddit were finding all kinds of inconsistencies in the mainstream version of the story. Attempted mind control at its best? So what makes this NPR story about alleged "fake" news creators any different? Isn't it possible that NPR made up this whole story about this guy who creates fake news in order to reassure those people who still rely on NPR for their news (truth) that something like this could never happen -- and who would really like to dismiss the whole thing because it's too disturbing anyway?

    Ask yourself Todd & Nora, does NPR and its benefactors benefit from people dismissing this absolutely horrid story that ties pedophilia a little too close for comfort to high level political players? Any alarm bells going off at all when every major newspaper seems to be focusing a little too obviously on weeding out "fake news" just as this stuff is erupting? Surprising that you could be a member of PA and not have any doubts about MSM's take on things....

    BTW, another red flag in this NPR story: the assertion that the only ones falling for the "fake news" are those dumb "Trump Supporters" because liberals just don't fall for it..... Wow. Really?
    A little pandering to the NPR audience: "Oh yes, those dumb Trump Supporters fall for everything. Good thing I'm a smart, educated NPR listener. Good thing I rely on Snopes." (and BTW, I have always considered myself a liberal. I am also neither a Trump nor Clinton supporter -- they are the same in my book).

    Anyway, would like to know what parts of the Comet Ping-Pong/Podesta story you think are "fake" since you seem to know some of the alleged players. Other than simply asserting that it's all politically motivated and perpetuated by completely false/doctored images, I haven't heard much in the way of real information that would tend to exonerate those implicated. Which parts are doctored? Are none of the images real? Are the Wikileaks emails not real? Are the hackers all liars or idiots? Personally, I read the Wikileaks pizza-related posts by Podesta and they are extremely strange -- they certainly seem like "code" to me. And unless all of the images that are going around about Comet Ping-Pong and its owner are fake, at the very least, this guy has some twisted taste in "art" as you say.

    I think James Corbett has the proper approach to this: gather evidence and see what emerges -- or doesn't. But in my opinion, shutting down subreddits and calling it a witchhunt or claiming that it is all politically motivated definitely raises red flags in a community like this where trust in the MSM and the PTB is generally, and deservedly, very low.
    Yes! Thank you. I knew there was something off about that article but I just wasn't paying enough attention.

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    Quote Two high profile pedophilia cases have come to light in recent years, the abuses of Jerry Sandusky at Penn State and those of famed British entertainer Jimmy Savile. While both cases certainly garnered their fair share of media attention, their time in the spotlight has ended and we are led to believe that their horrific abuses were the result of a lone pedophile preying on children, while esteemed institutions turned a blind eye to their discretions.

    Occasionally, however, the media would pick up on a story such as “Jimmy Savile was part of satanic ring” 1, EXPRESS UK, or “Jerry Sandusky was part of pedophile ring, victim claims” 2, GLOBAL POST. These stories seem absurd at first glance. Yet if they are investigated further, we are lead down a horrific and disturbing rabbit hole of pedophiles populating positions of power in government, finance, and entertainment.

    This post will lay out the evidence for an international pedophile ring of massive proportions. The information contained within is of tremendous importance, for we are sitting on our very own modern holocaust, a holocaust of children. I promise that this statement is by no means an exaggeration, and urge you to not be scared away by these walls of text, which are as concise as possible while still conveying the necessary information. Throughout, I will be completely transparent with my sources, and will not beat you over the head with conclusions, but rather present you with evidence and let you decide for yourselves.

    THE DUTROUX AFFAIR

    I will begin in Belgium, with a case known as the Dutroux affair. This case is important because it illustrates how investigations can be undermined by a cabal able to place its members in crucial positions of power, and how powerful people can be implicated in abusing children. The Dutroux affair is was covered extensively by the mainstream media, 3, NY TIMES, I use the MSM as most of my sources and was HUGE 4, NY TIMES news in Belgium, where 350,000 people took the streets to protest the handling of the case, known as the famous White March, from a nation of just 10 million.

    The case begins in 1995, when multiple young girls began disappearing around the area of Bertrix. Young girls had been disappearing in this area for a couple of years but the BOB (equivalent of the FBI) was unable to develop any solid leads. A breakthrough was made when a suspicious white van was reported, and the police were able to trace it to Marc Dutroux, a known pedophile. Dutroux had been released from prison just a few years earlier, after serving a third of his sentence, despite reservations among those involved in the hearing and his own mother, who had warned the parole board that he would certainly cause harm again 5, BBC. It was also revealed that Dutroux, though unemployed and receiving welfare from the state, owned seven homes and lived quite lavishly 6, NBC, from his involvement in selling children and child porn. It turns out that his mother was right, and Dutroux was responsible for the recent abductions. Girls as young as 8 reportedly starved to death in a makeshift dungeon in his basement, after months of sexual abuse 7, GUARDIAN UK.

    The horrible transgressions committed by Dutroux are widely available knowledge and thoroughly documented, and though disturbing, are not important enough to focus on this case. Now, I will attempt to highlight the incompetence of the investigating police, and the subsequent cover-up of evidence by the state. Police had investigated Dutroux multiple times without any arrests. Once, they entered his home and witnessed the outside of a makeshift dungeon in his basement, while two girls were being held and starved inside. They even reported hearing voices, though they said they believed Dutroux's story that the voices were coming from the street outside 8, FOX NEWS. Police ignored a tip from an informant, who said that Dutroux offered him between 3,000 and 5,000 dollars to kidnap young girls 9, CRIME LIBRARY. Again and again, police failed to act on information, or acted with complete incompetence. Incredibly, Police had in their possession a video tape of Dutroux constructing the makeshift dungeon in one of his basements, and would have saved the lives of two girls who were being tortured while the police held on to the evidence, had they viewed the video tape and acted on it 10, GUARDIAN UK.

    By September 1996, the official body count had reached 8, and public outrage over police incompetence mounted 11, GUARDIAN UK. Why had a known pedophile been released so early from his original prison term, and allowed to terrify a country while the police stumbled about, seemingly complicit in the carnage?
    When the case transferred from the police to the courts, the coverup became much more egregious. The lead prosecutor, Jean-Marc Conorrette, was dismissed from the case, which drew huge criticism from across the nation 12, NY TIMES. Conorette became a hero because it was his initiative that led to the police actually finding two girls in Dutroux's captivity. He also was instrumental in finding the bodies of four more girls. Conorette would later break down in tears in court while describing the death threats he received when he was still involved with the investigation 13, TELGRAPH UK.

    Fuel to the fire would be added when a highly regarded childrens activist, Marie France Botte, claimed that prosecutors were sitting on a politically sensitive list of high profile customers of Dutrouxs thousands of video tapes 14, LA TIMES.

    Marc Verwilghen, the Flemish parliamentarian who became the most popular politician in the country after leading the inquiry into Dutroux, claimed that many in the Belgian establishment, including heads of government, refused to cooperate, and sought to stifle and ridicule his report. He claimed that magistrates and police were officially told to not answer certain questions, in what he described as a 'characteristic smothering operation'. He was further quoted as saying 'For me, the Dutroux affair is a question of organized crime'. 15, GUARDIAN UK.

    A parliamentary panel revealed the names of 30 government officials it said were complicit in the hiding of Dutrouxs misdeeds, none have been punished 16.

    The most important information on the case comes from a victim of Dutroux. Regina Louf was the first to come forward, and was candid about the abuse she received at the hands of Belgiums child abuse networks. In 1996, she named and described in great detail, to a specially assembled police team, the people and places involved in the paedophile ring. Senior judges, one of the country's most powerful politicians - now dead - and a very influential banker were included.

    17, BBC. The BBC article [17] says, “The sessions not only involved sex, they included sadism, torture and murder; and again, she described in detail, the place, the victims and how they were killed.” She corroborated that one of Dutrouxs associates, Jean-Michel Nihoul, was instrumental in the abuse parties. "At these parties Nihoul was a sort of party beast while Dutroux was more on the side." Nihoul had significant connections among Belgian political and financial elite. He confessed to organizing an orgy at a Belgian chateau attended by government officials 18, TELEGRAPH UK.

    It emerged that Dutroux and Nihoul were part of a long distance child trafficking ring that imported children from Slovakia 19, BBC.

    Lets get back to the questioning of the witnesses. The primary witnesses to step forward all suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder. In 98% of DID cases, the person suffered extreme sexual abuse as a child 20, MERCK WEBSITE.

    The abuse that the Dutroux witnesses attested to is beyond comprehension. Louf, and other witnesses, recounted being raped by dogs and snakes, and being forced to witness the murders of other children which were captured on video tape 21, REGINA LOUFS BOOK.

    That Louf spoke the truth about witnessing these murders is laid out HERE in an excellent manner. She gave a tremendous amount of detail to her prosecutors that she simply could not have known without being there herself, and there is simply way too much evidence to lay it out here. I recommend reading the whole page, which is as long as a short book, as the research is simply phenomenal. She also reported being involved with Satanic rituals, which I will address in greater detail later in the post.

    Despite evidence that linked Dutroux and Nihoul to abuse parties and murder snuff films, the prosecutor that replaced Conorette, Jacques Langlois, completely dismantled the investigation. He sent police out on false tips and helped spread disinformation in the media. Although nearly 100 high profile people in government, religion, entertainment and finance being accused of involvement in child abuse
    22, ISGP, no one of significance other than Dutroux was ever jailed. 9 police officers would eventually be arrested in connection with the murders

    23, LA TIMES contains dozens of suspicious deaths among those who were helping the case. I have only presented a small picture of what amounts to a mountain of documentation on Dutroux. For further reading, look HERE, ISGP and HERE, CRIME LIBRARY.

    I understand that my discussion on the Dutroux affair does not validate any of the claims in the title of this post. It is only one small piece of the puzzle. It shows how, from the bottom level of police work to the top level of prosecution politics, people complicit with pedophiles can be placed into key positions to ensure that investigations never bear fruit. Now I will briefly highlight pedophile rings that operated parallel to Dutrouxs during the same time period, again in which no high level officials were brought to justice, although they undeniable participated, to illustrate how widespread the child porn and child abuse epidemic is. I will then move on to more important cases. In Latvia, three top officials, including the Prime Minister, were named in connection with a pedophile ring in which 2000 children in the country were abused 24, LA TIMES.

    An online ring known as Wonderland was busted and yielded 750,000 images of children 25 BBC. From the article [25]: “Wonderland originated in the United States but also operated in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and Britain.” None of the men charged in relation to the ring served more than 30 months in jail, and only two were put on the sex offenders registry (in the year 2000!!!)
    26, GUARDIAN UK. A child porn ring in Mexico was busted and said to have thousands of clients in the United States
    27, BBC. Child porn videos reportedly made a Russian ring 410 million dollars being sold in Germany, Italy, and the United States
    28, GUARDIAN UK. A Dutch ring was discovered in which images and videos of abuse of infants were circulated
    29, NY TIMES. A magistrate leading an investigation into an Italian pedophile ring denounced what he called a “paedophile lobby” of powerful politicians which he said openly obstructed his investigation
    30, INDEPENDANT UK. French police arrested 250 people associated with child pornography within a year of the Dutroux affair [31, NY TIMES](http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/14/wo...aphy-ring.html


    THE LINCOLN, NEBRASKA SCANDAL

    From here on out the post gets more surreal. These child abuse and pedophile rings are not by any means limited to Europe. Rather, the United States has perhaps the biggest child trafficking epidemic in the world. It is important to note, before I begin the next segment of this post, that the FBI does not track statistics for missing children. Of all the statistics it keeps tabs on, rape, homicide, domestic abuse, what amounts to perhaps the single most important one in terms of citizen safety is ominously missing. Perhaps they simply do not want us to know how bad the epidemic is? It should also be noted that FBI prosecution of major child trafficking rings had been virtually non-existant.

    Take a good look at THIS, WASHINGTON TIMES frontpage story, published on June 29, 1989. The first chapter reads: “A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washingtons political elite, documents obtained by The Washington Times revealed.” The story never fully hit the streets, as agents grabbed the copies from newstands in the early hours of the morning. Another good article for background before I move on to American organized pedophilia and satanism is THIS, CHICAGO TRIBUNE. The first paragraph reads: “All nine children tell the same story, a grisly tale of being taken out of school and abused in a blue house. They name the same culprit, a school administrator who, they say, performs satanic rituals as part of his twisted routine. In the 14 months since the first child came forward, police said they have conducted 150 interviews and cannot substantiate the claims of the children, who range in age from 5 to 9. Prosecutor Stanley Levco is more blunt: He doesn`t believe them, and he plans to publicly clear the accused.”

    I will now talk about America's own Dutroux affair, which began in Lincoln, Nebraska, in the late 1980s. A good part of the story, minus the satanism aspect, is covered in a documentary called The Conspiracy of Silence. The documentary was set to air on the Discovery Channel in 1994 but at the last minute, it was pulled and destroyed. We only have access to it now because of a “cutting room copy” leak a year later. The story begins with Omaha businessman Lawrence King, who was a rising star in the Republican party at the time. In 1988, it was revealed that he had diverted millions of dollars from the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union, the investigation of which spawned an investigation into a pedophilia ring of mind blowing proportions 32, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. Soon enough, investigators into the embezzlement scandal began receiving reports of sexual abuse 33, NY TIMES. Omaha newspapers were running stories of how young boys from Boystown were being prostituted among local business leaders and sometimes traveled to Washington. Parties would include sex, and abuse such as “beatings with extension cords while naked”[33]. Immediately, the FBI began claiming that there was no substance to the sexual abuse allegations 34, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. The stories of the victims told a drastically different story. “The older sister alleged that King arranged for her to fly to parties in Washington, D.C., and other cities where men engaged her in sexual activity,”35, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. Apparently, the abused were all foster children, and they would miss weeks of school each year taking these trips [35].

    The head of the investigative committee, known as the Franklin Comittee, Gary Carodori, was also convinced of the rampant child abuse and was determined to bring perpetrators to justice. As a side note, you can view Caradori's interviews with the victims here. Early on in the investigation, Gary Caradori would meet an untimely death, during a flight on his way to Chicago to review new evidence. There was a scattered wreckage pattern, indicating that the plane broke apart in the air, and not upon impact 36, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. The new head investigator would repeatedly lead the committee in the wrong direction, away from child abuse and satanic ritual claims. A state senator resigned from the investigative committee and said, “"I really don't think the things Larry King knew will ever be made public,” 38, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. He also cited concerns about the change in leadership.

    A New York Times article 39 confirms that state investigators were given thousands of files regarding sexual abuse from children and testimonies from people involved in the foster care and education system. What happened next is amazing. Instead of indighting the accused perpetrators to develop cases against them, Grand Juries twice ordered the thousands of files to be sealed, and then brought charges of perjury against some of the victims! 40,SALEM NEWS. The mainstream media did their part to defend the grand jury and to marginalize the testimonies of the victims Example, NY TIMES. One of the victims was sentenced to 9-15 years in prison, and spent two years in solitary confinement!!! [40]. 8 years later the woman in question, Alisha Owen, was denied a hearing to commute her sentence 41, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. Lawrence King, however, would leave prison after just 10 years, being found guilty only of financial crimes 42, OMAHA WORLD HERALD. As with the Dutroux affair, I have again only shown a small portion of a truly mind blowing and exceptionally well documented story. Many victims in their interviews cited being forced to participate in satanic rituals, and had named King as a participant. What I hope I have laid out here is that there are certainly child prostitution rings in the United States and that kids are transported across the country for high profile customers. When people get in the way of these activities, they are silenced or killed. To learn more about the Franklin Coverup (and there is a lot more to learn!!), read this book by John DeCamp, watch this documentary, and view this website which h

    Unfortunately, the next step in this expose takes us to truly bizarre and disturbing places. A particularly disturbing child abuse case involving a military day care center came to light in 1987 43, NEW YORK TIMES. Allegations of abuse involving 60 children, some infants, surfaced at the Presidio military base in San Francisco. I would like to point out that this article claims that child abuse allegations had surfaced at more than 30(!!!) military day care centers across the country in the previous 3(!!!!) years before its publishing, including some of the most esteemed bases such as West Point and Fort Dix. It would be impossible to lay out the cases for each one here, but I would like to share this quote from the San Jose Mercury News: “Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed. “

    [44]. At the Presidio, at least 4 children were found to have chlamydia, and up to 60 had shown clear signs of abuse. The most important exposes into the Presidio case were written by Linda Goldston of the San Jose Mercury News. In an article titled 44, “Abuse Case at Presidio Quietly Closed By U.S.”, the events are told in chilling detail. The first victims to come forward were aged 3 and 4. Interestingly, the Presidio child care center was not closed until over a year after these allegations came to light. Initially charges were only brought against one man, Gary Hambright, a civilian employee. Later, however, it was revealed that police were investigating a man named Michael Aquino, a Lt. Col. Aquino was the founder of a satanic church known as The Temple of Set. Army documents showed that children were often taken on unnanounced trips outside the center, and many children could accurately describe Aquinos house. The search of Aquinos house got investigators thousands of videos and photographs, and what appeared to be a soundproof room, but charged were never brought against him. [44]

    The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 45 wrote an extensive analysis of the victims of the Presidio. They stated: “The severity of the trauma for children at the Presidio was immediately manifest in clear cut symptoms. Before the abuse was exposed, parents had already noticed the following changes in their children: vaginal discharge, genital soreness, rashes, fear of the dark, sleep disturbances, nightmares, sexually provocative language, and sexually inappropriate behavior. In addition, the children were exhibiting other radical changes in behavior, including temper outbursts, sudden mood shifts, and poor impulse control. All these behavioral symptoms are to be expected in preschool children who have been molested.” [45]

    The San Jose Mercury News expanded on the story a few months later with an article titled Army of the Night, 46. This article dives into the satanic aspect of the child abuse at the Presidio. Satanism had apparently surfaced at the Presidio years earlier. Military Police had investigated some buildings after reports of a man dressed in all black holding a little girls hand had been reported. An MP was recorded as saying: “We kicked the door open and here's this nice little bedroom. In a corner was a mannequin with a gun aimed at the door. On the left side there was a bunk against the wall. There was a pentagram on the floor, a huge one. There were dolls' heads all over the ceiling, just off-the-wall stuff... We were sitting there, we've got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about it. We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.” As a side note, in February 1987, Aquino appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show and gave a passionate defense of his Satanic beliefs. On the Autumnal equinox of 1987, an occult day of importance, fire would strike a building adjacent to the day care center, destroying many records relating to the center. A month later, fire would destroy the day care center itself. The ATF found that the causes of both fires had been arson, contrary to the Army which claimed faulty wiring. Prosecutors would once again bring charges against Gary Hambright, but suspiciously they did not include the allegations of children with serious documented abuse such as missing hymens and rectal lesions. Apparently the children were chosen on the basis of who would make the best witnesses. The strategy did not pan out, the judge ruled the charges as “too vague” and Hambright walked free, and no charges were again brought against the Presidio military base day care center [46].

    FALSE MEMORIES SYNDROME FOUNDATION

    The next case I will address is known as the McMartin Preschool abuse scandal. But before I delve into that, I need to address the False Memories Syndrome Foundation, FMSF. They are a prominent group promoting the idea that children who claim they have been abused in satanic rituals have either wild imaginations, or were prodded along by zealot psychologists. They have been tremendously successful in their mission. Recently a Reddit post promoting the false memory theory received over 2000 upvotes in r/TIL. Members of FMSF have been called to appear as expert witnesses in dozens of court cases. I have already established that there have been hundreds of different children reporting satanic abuse not only across the country, but in different continents as well. This alone should be enough to make the false memory theory very flimsy. However, there is a lot more interesting information about the FMSF to discuss. A huge amount of members of the FMSF have not only been accused of pedophilia themselves, but are also a part of the military industrial complex. Peter J. Freyd founded the FMSF after being accused of sexual abuse by his daughter. David Dinges, a member of the scientific advisory board of the FMSF, was involved with Navy Intelligence. Harold Leif was involved with CIA mind control experiments. Paul McHugh has been a very vocal critic of Dissociative Identity Disorder and has worked at many military hospitals. Martin T. Orne was funded by MKULTRA Harvard Crimson. Ralph Underwager claimed it was 'gods will' when adults engage in sex with children. There are more suspicious members of the FMSF but I feel that this list suffices. I will end this paragraph with a quote from the Columbia Journalism Review: "Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers, Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.”

    MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL ABUSE

    Now, on to the McMartin Preschool case. The McMartin preschool, located in California, was the center of a massive child prostitution and pornography ring, and appears to be the center of an equally massive coverup. Concerns began in August 1983, when a mother told police that her two year old son had been sexually abused 47, LA TIMES. By 1984, 360 children had come forward claiming abuse 48, NY TIMES. A significant number showed physical evidence of abuse 49, NY TIMES. These kids also described wild satanic rituals they were forced to participate it, such as eating feces, necrophilia and coprophilia, with some claims as bizarre as a babies head being chopped off, and being forced to drink the blood 50. CRIME LIBRARY. The children told stories of being transported in underground tunnels. The mainstream media did their best to discredit the tunnel theory. However, archeologist E. Gary Stickel, PhD conducted a study of the McMartin preschool grounds, which you can read here. The survey was conducted in 1990, after the property had been sold, and long after charges against the abuse perpetrators had been dropped, and the victims thoroughly marginalized in the mainstream media, with help from the FSMF. Stickel found two extensive tunnel complex systems underneath the preschool, which accurately reflected the testimonies given by the children. In summation, the media and government would have us believe that 360 children all invented false memories of horrific satanic abuse, of participating in rituals in which adults sheathed in black ceremonial robes uttered chants, that they lied about being transported for prostitution across town, and that they lied about being photographed and videotaped for child pornography, despite verification of physical abuse in most of the children as well as the existence of tunnels under the complex. Again, the victims were marginalized in the press, the FBI denied any legitimate claims, the prosecution harassed victims endlessly in court, and all charges were eventually dropped.

    THE FINDERS

    In 1987 the New York Times ran a story, 51 about a little known cult called “The Finders”. The first paragraph reads: “Police officials here said today that six disheveled children found in Tallahassee, Fla., might be the offspring of members of a little-known cult, but the officials said they had not ruled out the possibility of kidnapping.” The Finders had previously been described in the media: “In appearance, the Finders—mostly middle-aged men, always in dark suits—wouldn’t be out of place managing a local funeral home. But the behavior of the handful of adherents has people wondering whether they arrived by flying saucer. Townspeople say the Finders constantly walk the streets, following people home and taking extensive notes and pictures. They often appear at local council meetings, never saying a word but simply observing the scene. At other times, they plunder the visitor’s center of brochures, maps, and local travel guides. And they haunt the courthouse, scouring land deeds to find out who owns the local real estate,” 52, WASHINGTON CITY PAPER. Who are these suspicious people, and what were they doing with 6 undocumented children, transporting them across the country? The children were found to show signs of sexual abuse 53, CHICAGO TRIBUNE. Customs agents raided one the Finders compounds, and found detailed instructions on obtaining children for unknown purposes and several photographs of nude children 54, US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT .The US News and World Report article continues: “The more the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed: There were suggestions of child abuse, Satanism, dealing in pornography and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of the allegations was ever proved, however. The child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee were dropped.” The stories about The Finders quickly died down, but would not disappear entirely, as rumors linking The Finders to the CIA persisted. According to the US News and World Report, “Customs Service documents reveal that in 1987, when Customs agents sought to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, D.C., police, they were told that the Finders investigation 'had become a CIA internal matter.' The police report on the case had been classified secret,” [54] Florida congressman Tom Lewis was quoted as saying: “'Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That's what all the evidence points to," says Lewis. "And there's a lot of evidence. I can tell you this: We've got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn't be happening if there was nothing here.'“ A connection was produced, and confirmed by the CIA: A firm that provided computer training to CIA officers also employed several members of the Finders. Anyone researching the CIA will come to the conclusion that the organization does not contract training out to other sources, it only ever creates proprietary organizations.

    CONCLUDING THOUGHTS

    I would love to be able to say I have exhausted all there is to know about organized pedophilia. Unfortunately, the truth is that I have only captured a glimpse of the epidemic. For example, I have not even touched pedophile rings in the United Kingdom, of which there are many well documented cases I hope that every single person who reads this post will be spurred to do further research, and help bring to light the child holocaust that is happening under our noses. I will end this post with a list of questions for further thought.
    *How can pedophiles and sympathizers exist at crucial positions to prevent investigations from ever gaining steam?
    *Why do so many people with a military intelligence background seem to have a vested interest in marginalizing victims of ritual abuse?
    *How could victims of satanic ritual abuse exist in such diverse geographic areas and from such different walks of life?
    *Why has the FBI and CIA failed to ever bust a major child trafficking ring? And why aren't missing children counted?
    *Is it suspicious that the transgressions of Americas notorious serial killers are so similar to the claims presented by victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse?
    *Should we further investigate the social connections of high profile pedophiles, such as Sandusky and George Bush, and Savile and the Royal family?
    *Should this information make us rethink the Feds recent push for gun control?
    *Could organizations that traffic children also be involved in terrorism?
    *What can I do to spread information about this epidemic?
    *Is it possible that intelligence agencies or satanic cults would provide children to politicians with a purpose of blackmailing them?
    Some final notes. This account is brand new for anonymity purposes but I am a long time redditor and have been actively contributing to this conspiracy subreddit for a period of time as well. Feel free to repost this essay as you see fit, anywhere, without worrying about credit. I do not care about recognition, I only want this information to be made public.
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    8chan can be depressing, you have to learn to skim read the mindless posts.
    There are some good researchers there.

    Quote Sex trafficking trade forces women from Odessa to massage parlours in Britain

    https://archive.is/9u6VO

    Odessa grew rich in the 19th century by exporting Russian grain. These days one of its main trades is in flesh. The city is a collecting hub for women from across the former Soviet Union who, unbeknown to them, have been snared by traffickers. From Odessa and elsewhere in Ukraine they are conveyed west to Europe and east to Russia, or south to Turkey and the Middle East. Twice a week ferries from Istanbul bring back those, often ill and pregnant, who have been deported by the Turks.

    https://archive.is/E5GkY

    Welcome to Odessa: the strategic southern Ukrainian port that has emerged as one of the principal hubs of the international sex trade. Blighted by police corruption and organised crime, the city has become a marketplace where women are bought, sold, deceived, abused, and in many cases trafficked to a hellish life abroad.

    https://archive.is/JxhY0

    Also, organs

    Israel is the organ harvesting and human trafficking global ringleader, with complicit help from US and Turkey

    https://archive.is/uazdM

    Shocking information appeared on the social networks saying that the militia from Slavyansk found hundreds of corpses of National Guard soldiers during a night reconnaissance operation. The soldiers had had their stomachs ripped open and internal organs removed. In addition, the people living in the troubled territories, have seen well-equipped ambulance vehicles, armored cash collection vans and other special vehicles near hospitals of the Ukrainian army.

    Employees of international airports, for example, in Boryspil, said that there were many small aircraft chartered to transport special refrigerators that are used for transporting human organs.

    https://archive.is/OAlLK

    To my knowledge moscow is not complicit. Kiev is. Moscow should be investigated nevertheless. Kikes[sic] were running kiev at the time this was going on. Moscow provided us with some useful information (link above). There is large market in israel

    Thousands of women are being smuggled into Israel, creating a booming sex trade industry that rakes more than USD one billion a year, a parliamentary committee said on Wednesday.

    https://archive.is/NvVhX

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    Quote Posted by awakeningmom (here)
    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    btw - it's extremely hard these days to discern real news from fake news. The pizza gate was an alarm bell as it is in my literal backyard and directly in my life and really smart people were convinced of certain "facts" that I know for FACT are FALSE. The war we are in right now is perception, information, and psychological. This article should be mandatory reading for all well intentioned internet users of "news":
    Anyway, would like to know what parts of the Comet Ping-Pong/Podesta story you think are "fake" since you seem to know some of the alleged players. Other than simply asserting that it's all politically motivated and perpetuated by completely false/doctored images, I haven't heard much in the way of real information that would tend to exonerate those implicated. Which parts are doctored? Are none of the images real? Are the Wikileaks emails not real? Are the hackers all liars or idiots? Personally, I read the Wikileaks pizza-related posts by Podesta and they are extremely strange -- they certainly seem like "code" to me. And unless all of the images that are going around about Comet Ping-Pong and its owner are fake, at the very least, this guy has some twisted taste in "art" as you say.
    Well said, awakeningmom. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    Quote Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
    This is ridiculous. I am embarrassed for Project Avalon for pushing this ****. Modern day witch hunt.

    [Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGj5IhepMg]
    Please don't feel sorry for me Todd & Nora and please do not feel embarrassed for Project Avalon.
    Some day you will realize the error of your ways, and you will feel embarrassed for your naivety regarding this current situation.
    Just my take but you have been coming off like a real A$$hole regarding this topic, you might want to take a deep breath and ask yourself the question "Do I know absolutely everything about any given topic"? If the answer is "no" maybe you should stop posting like the pompous know it all you keep coming off like.



    In so far as the data is concerned, David Seaman is a professional journalist giving his take on the situation. He will probably never get a job in the industry again because of his honest take but here it is.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL15ZkNgUI0



    And this young lady does an excellent job of breaking down some of the facts concerning this situation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGj5IhepMg

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    Default Re: Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1116563

    The above post of mine addresses some of the complexities of this discussion in a hopefully balanced way.


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    Thanks Ewan, and apparently NPR is a client of the Podesta Group too.... coincidence?

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