Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner - Sacred Mysteries video (removed)]

[Hervé]

Posted by Bob (here)
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Those folks demanding that Todd and Nora reveal what they know (that which is confidential) behind the cracked door I find is unbelievable to me (for the reasons stated below), and certainly appears to me would be more counter-productive than helpful.
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... then, why bother posting all the smoke since no cigars can be offered?

[Satori]

Posted by araucaria (here)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1116563

The above post of mine addresses some of the complexities of this discussion in a hopefully balanced way.

And, I must say, a very good post araucaria.

[ThePythonicCow]

TODD & NORA have left Avalon: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1116984

This is a tough topic - let's continue to do our best to discuss and contribute in the best ways we can.

[Bob]

Posted by Paul (here)
TODD & NORA have left Avalon: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1116984

This is a tough topic - let's continue to do our best to discuss and contribute in the best ways we can.

I think it is worse than 'tough' Paul. Have you ever talked with Todd and Nora personally, like on the telephone? To ask what is it all about? How many others have? Just thinking out loud. I know it is not easy to be eloquent using 'words' to convey emotions, and how the words come out is not what one necessarily really means in the 'soul' speaking when that happens, right?

In light of them being "retired" - https://projectavalon.net/forum4/send...member&u=17902 there still appears to be a VALID email address to CONTACT THEM via EMAIL, and get those answers. If they apparently know so much about the traffic'ing, it is logical to not just walk away. And seems to me, getting Aaron Cohen to become a member and give first hand testimony is what the Forum members want, if I read the many posts asking for LIGHT on the subject, yes?

[onawah]

The little bit that Wikileaks has already given re Podesta, spirit cooking, etc. has gone viral.
I think it's going to do a lot more to wake ordinary people up to the harsh realities of child trafficking, Satanism etc.
If I am any kind of indicator, even many members of Avalon had and/or have no clue who Todd and Nora are.

The kind of information they have won't do much good if it remains private.
Which is why Wikileaks has proven so valuable; like most whistleblower information, it is widely disseminated, but entails risk.
I don't think many here would agree that Wikileaks info comes from Russia.
(Though it seems quite clear there is a lot of slavery and child trafficking originating in and from Russia.)
I think Assange and his sources are motivated for the good.

[Bob]

Posted by onawah (here)
The little bit that Wikileaks has already given re Podesta, spirit cooking, etc. has gone viral.
I think it's going to do a lot more to wake ordinary people up to the harsh realities of child trafficking, Satanism etc.
If I am any kind of indicator, even many members of Avalon had and/or have no clue who Todd and Nora are.

The kind of information they have won't do much good if it remains private.
Which is why Wikileaks has proven so valuable; like most whistleblower information, it is widely disseminated, but entails risk.
I don't think many here would agree that Wikileaks info comes from Russia.
(Though it seems quite clear there is a lot of slavery and child trafficking originating in and from Russia.)
I think Assange and his sources are motivated for the good.

And you think Todd and Nora are what? Have you met them personally? I have. I find them quite in integrity, and being highly caring about children, and working towards destroying the networks who are into human abuses, such as slavery of children.

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved fifteen posts to a split thread: Split thread from "Very Disturbing [Jay Weidner videos ...]" .

Those who wish to continue discussing whether or not the posts of TODD & NORA, and/or replies thereto, were or were not slanderous, inflamatory, insulting, or whatever ... please post on that Split thread.

Those who wish to continue discussing the very disturbing material that was the original focus of this thread, please continue here.

Thanks.

[The Freedom Train]

Posted by the trojan (here)
there are lots of essays on kubricks work online and after watching this mans interview,i think he has gleaned much of what he is selling as revelatory from the same stuff i have been reading for a number of years....nothing new.

I like what he has on his home page:

"Whatever ideas are the most suppressed are most likely to be the closest to the truth.” – Weidner’s First Law of the Universe

“If a picture is worth a thousand words then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures.” – Weidner’s Second Law of the Universe

“The only people who call conspiracies ‘theories’ are the conspirators.” – Weidner’s Third Law of the Universe"

[The Freedom Train]

Posted by Octavusprime (here)
Todd and Nora. You are quick to get very emotional and lash out at us (Avalon). I realize that this is a sensitive subject but having more attention focused on the child slave trade is not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps this is a huge conspiracy to redirect the masses towards a political rival. Maybe you have some insider knowledge to offer or perhaps you have emotional ties to those in the spotlight and are blinded to the truth. It could be that the people you think you know aren't the people you think they are. You may be 100% correct that this is a huge Witch hunt. It's all in the delivery.

Let's see some examples of the "doctored photos" and evidence that the Podesta emails are fake. Please provide some sound rationale as to why there is suddenly a witch hunt out for "fake news" and such a strong reaction to suppress this story by "news agencies" like NPR. Your emotional attacks on the Avalon members is not helping your cause. This isn't the first time you have gotten emotional on a topic in which you claim to be an insider and that everyone else is clueless. How is it that you are an expert/insider on so many topics? I would provide examples but you seem to want to be an online ghost and delete your past posts.

Many trusted people on this site are trusted because the community gets to know them. You are very secretive and often brash in you responses. It would be way more helpful and effective if you provided real life examples, evidence or researched hypothesis' rather than to just tell people that they are wrong and foolish. People don't respond well to dismissive emotionally driven responses. Trust me, I've made this mistake many times myself.

I listen to NPR and what I've noticed is that it is extremely biased. It was a Pro Hillary and Anti Trump propaganda tool over the last few months. Essentially it just regurgitates the narrative of the current heads of state. We will see what happens to NPR once Trump is in office. I still listen but more to hear what is being pushed and what is being conveniently left out... One must look between lines if you know what I mean.

Thank you for such fair, balanced, and rational replies Octavusprime.

I'd like to contribute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf48D4dHgKg

The guy talks about pizzagate as a psyop - the thing that makes me wonder if he may be on to something is that he does not in any way deny the existence of an elite pedo ring - in fact the guy believes it is absolutely happening. If Todd and Nora knew this, though, I would wonder why they were unable to express this? I don't know them, so I have very little to contribute there. If they are operatives, then my guess is that they are victims of mind control and other means of control and manipulation. If they are not, then I don't know what else to say about it. It's too bad that they had to leave - understandably emotions are high when discussing this kind of stuff.

[The Freedom Train]

Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
Attacks are what public forums such as Project Avalon are for apparently.

The fulfillment of Garabandal could not come soon enough...you are welcome to fight amongst yourselves. The request to delete our account from the forum has been submitted.

Out of curiosity, I googled "fulfillment of Garabandal" and this is first:

http://www.garabandal.us/prph_warn

"The Blessed Virgin told me (during a two-hour apparition at the pines January 1, 1965) that a warning would be given before the miracle. The warning is a thing that comes directly from God. No one can escape it. It will be visible all over the world. We will feel it bodily and interiorly. The warning is like a chastisement, a terrifying thing for the good as well as for the wicked. It will be like a revelation of our sins. We shall see the consequences of the sins we have committed. God will send the warning to purify us so that we may better appreciate the miracle by which He clearly proves His love for us and hence His desire that we fulfill the message. The warning will draw the good closer to God and it will warn the wicked that the end of time is coming.

1) The Authentication Factor–After we have experienced the warning, we will review the prophecy describing it. Point by point, the description of the warning, known and published years before it actually happened, will testify to the credibility of the apparitions and thus the message.
2) Preparation–As a personal experience, the warning will probably be the most awesome confrontation of our lives. Are we ready for it? Are we ready for the “terrifying thing” which is “a thousand times worse than earthquakes” which will make us prefer to be dead rather than suffer it? Are we ready to “see ourselves in the light of our sins?” These, especially the last, are stupendous pronouncements. How does one prepare? Our Lady said, “We have given you all that you need,” and her reference was to the message of Garabandal, a message, it must be noted, which re-states the constant teachings of the Church. These fearful details are provided by Our Lady to prompt us to make ready for the warning now through earnest, generous fulfillment of the message in our daily lives.
3) Consolation and Inspiration–Any thinking person is aware that the world is in great need of correction. It would seem that here, indeed, are at least the beginnings of the “difficult times” St. Paul spoke of, when “men will be in love with self, in love with money, boastful, abusive; without reverence for their parents, without gratitude, without scruple, without love, without peace; slanderers, incontinent … thinking rather of their pleasures than of God” (II Tim. 3:2-5). Further since, as Pope Paul observed recently, men seem to have lost the sense of sin, it would seem that nothing short of Divine intervention, can open men’s eyes, reform their hearts. The Garabandal warning promises to be understood by everyone as “from God,” “a correction of the conscience of the world.” This is a great consolation to all who are frightened and confused by widespread iniquity, who long for truth to be once again honored. I believe Our Lady also wishes that those so disposed render praise and thanksgiving to God now–even before the warning–for the consolation and inspiration the knowledge of it provides and for the great good it can be expected to achieve."

What is this???? I do not consider the vatican to be the source of goodliness that will cleanse the earth of sin. I see the concept of sin as a blame and shame campaign designed to brainwash, manipulate and control people. Regarding the elite pedo ring, more than a few people have alluded to the manipulation and blackmailing going on. How far up the line do we have to go to find the source here? How did it start? Are all pedos brainwashed victims of a non human ploy to control and abuse and torture us.?

Just WHAT IN THE HEY is going on here??

[onawah]

For all any of us know, the Garabandal warning was a psyop.
ETs have had the technology to stage such events for a very long time, and for that to be used as evidence of anything on a conspiracy theory forum is really kind of ludicrous.
Much less something that supports the role of the Vatican, home to Satanic rituals and paedophilia for God only knows how long...

[The Freedom Train]

Posted by onawah (here)
For all any of us know, the Garabandal warning was a psyop.
ETs have had the technology to stage such events for a very long time, and for that to be used as evidence of anything on a conspiracy theory forum is really kind of ludicrous.
Much less something that supports the role of the Vatican, home to Satanic rituals and paedophilia for God only knows how long...

I absolutely agree and suspect that the ET's have been using psychotronics for thousands of years to manipulate and control our minds (creating "mental illness" for instance) in order to subjugate and enslave us. So, yeah. Right on onawah.

[The Freedom Train]

I saw a truck today with a License plate on the front that said, simply, CAIN. I filed it away for some reason. Not being a bible reader, I was not familiar with the details of the Cain and Abel story. For some reason, I just looked it up on wikipedia.

"1 Adam knew his wife Eve intimately, and she conceived and bore Cain. She said, "I have had a male child with the Lord's help."
2 Then she also gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel became a shepherd of a flock, but Cain cultivated the land.
3 In the course of time Cain presented some of the land's produce as an offering to the Lord.
4 And Abel also presented [an offering] – some of the firstborn of his flock and their fat portions. The Lord had regard for Abel and his offering,
5 but He did not have regard for Cain and his offering. Cain was furious, and he was downcast.
6 Then the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why are you downcast?
7 If you do right, won't you be accepted? But if you do not do right, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must master it."
8 Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
— Genesis 4:1–8 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)"

So, let me get this straight. God is only happy with the firstborn sacrfices of Abel's flock - making Cain feel rejected, wanting approval from the big daddy. So God gives Cain a pep talk, tells him to do right to feel accepted (apparently sacrificing firstborns) to avoid the "sin" crouching at his door and gunning for him, so Cain then goes out and kills his brother, who is a firstborn of Adam and Eve. And then of course he feels horribly afterwards....

"According to Genesis 4:1–16, Cain treacherously murdered his brother Abel, lied about the murder to God, and as a result was cursed and marked for life.[18] With the earth left cursed to drink Abel's blood, Cain was no longer able to farm the land.[19] Exegesis of the Hebrew narrative has Cain punished as a "fugitive and wanderer".[20] Exegesis of the Septuagint's narrative, "groaning and shaking upon the earth" has Cain suffering from body tremors.[21] Interpretations extend Cain's curse to his descendants, where they all died in the Great Deluge as retribution for the loss of Abel's potential offspring.[22] Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain. This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible.[23]"

So, yeah. This is, to me, so obviously about the manipulation of human minds and emotions via mind control and psychotronics to commit atrocious acts, including blood sacrifice and murder, which are then turned against the mind controlled perpetrators and used as emotional blackmail so that they devolve into depravity and self loathing.

[Baby Steps]

Posted by The Freedom Train (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
For all any of us know, the Garabandal warning was a psyop.
ETs have had the technology to stage such events for a very long time, and for that to be used as evidence of anything on a conspiracy theory forum is really kind of ludicrous.
Much less something that supports the role of the Vatican, home to Satanic rituals and paedophilia for God only knows how long...

I absolutely agree and suspect that the ET's have been using psychotronics for thousands of years to manipulate and control our minds (creating "mental illness" for instance) in order to subjugate and enslave us. So, yeah. Right on onawah.

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There are congruent prophecies about this event in various traditions. Tod & Nora alluded to the secret space program in this connection.

[Hervé]

Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
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As for taking off where Wikileaks left off - Wiki has been a direct messaging source for Russian intelligence. Their mission was to destroy Hilary by any means necessary. That s not over and no, I am not her fan at all. Their mission of confusing and disseminating information of this kind is not over, clearly. and btw the Russian mob is at the top of human trafficking gangs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

Well, the WaPo devotees, incriminating Russia and Putin for all mishaps and undue influence, may be right:

Dear President Putin

By Paul Craig Roberts November 28, 2016

Valdimir Putin
President of Russia
Moscow
28 November 2016

Dear President Putin,

Now that CIA agent Craig Timberg posing as a Washington Post reporter has blown my cover and exposed me as a Russian agent, I was wondering if I might ask you for a Russian passport and a bit of diplomatic cover, perhaps assistant press officer at the Russian embassy in Washington, until I can get out of the country. I saw that you gave a passport to Steven Seagal, so I am hopeful that being a Russian agent is as important as teaching martial arts to Russians.

I don’t know what the pay scale for Russian agents is, but whatever I have coming to me please deposit in a Russian bank. The Swiss banks are no longer useful as the Swiss government allowed Washington to write its banking laws. Perhaps also you could line me up with a publisher for my memoirs—“My Life As A Putin Stooge.”

We need to get on with this ASAP as the Washington Post has the FBI on my tail. They will be very angry at me for deceiving them all those years when I held top secret and higher security clearances while I was a Russian agent. Any day now the Washington Post might discover that my fellow KGB agent Ronald Reagan and I cut taxes on the rich in order to make capitalism so oppressive that the American people would rise up and overthrow it. Boy did we fool the left-wing!

I regret that the Washington Post got wise to me being a Russian agent, but it wasn’t my fault. I think the leak came from one of those Atlanticist Integrationists you are stuck with in your government. Better check up on it as 200 of the Russian financed websites have already been exposed.

Better have someone bring me the passport and diplomatic appointment. I would be nabbed by TSA if I fly to Washington to collect the documents. A diplomatic appointment is better than asylum, because Washington, like the old Soviet Union, doesn’t recognize political asylum. Just ask Julian Assange.

Don’t let the Atlanticist Integrationists convince you that my exposure as a Russian agent is just a CIA ruse to plant an agent on you. My criticism of Washington’s policy of raising tensions between nuclear powers and support of your policy of reducing tensions is not spy cover. I really do prefer that the world not be blown up in thermo-nuclear war. This is a suspect view in the US, but I hope it is an acceptable one in Russia.

Looking forward to that passport.

Paul Craig Roberts

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
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As for taking off where Wikileaks left off - Wiki has been a direct messaging source for Russian intelligence. Their mission was to destroy Hilary by any means necessary. That s not over and no, I am not her fan at all. Their mission of confusing and disseminating information of this kind is not over, clearly. and btw the Russian mob is at the top of human trafficking gangs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8fe_story.html

Well, the WaPo devotees, incriminating Russia and Putin for all mishaps and undue influence, may be right:

Dear President Putin

By Paul Craig Roberts November 28, 2016

Valdimir Putin
President of Russia
Moscow
28 November 2016

Dear President Putin,

Now that CIA agent Craig Timberg posing as a Washington Post reporter has blown my cover and exposed me as a Russian agent,

...

Looking forward to that passport.

Paul Craig Roberts

I presume that you are speaking "tongue in cheek", Hervé, as I am sure Paul Craig Roberts was .

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)
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I presume that you are speaking "tongue in cheek", Hervé, as I am sure Paul Craig Roberts was .

Yes, apologies to the readers... I just went through a severe bout of "tongue-in-cheek-itis" similar to the one Paul Craig Roberts seems to have experienced as well.

[Ewan]

It serves a purpose sometimes. IMO there was no need to apologise. :shrug:

Steve Hughes on political correctness

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs

Threads are organic, or should be, if a post prompts a related thought why shouldn't one share it - it may be beneficial to link ideas?

Anyway, in order to conform I hereby end my post with a safety

[Basho]

Hilarious vid Ewan, thank you for sharing! Nothing better than a good laugh amongst friends to deflate the bubble of tension.

Back to topic, a great interview with Jay Weidner on TheHighersideChats

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t1_9Z3pvM50

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Basho (here)
Hilarious vid Ewan, thank you for sharing! Nothing better than a good laugh amongst friends to deflate the bubble of tension.

Back to topic, a great interview with Jay Weidner on TheHighersideChats

As can be seen here, this video is from October 4, 2014, when the Georgia Guidestone mysteries were a hot topic.

Yes - Jay Weidner is good!