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    I have posted about what happened to me,
    When I was five,
    Quite a few times over the past 10 years or so,
    The closest I got was someone on the David Icke forum,
    Said that he'd had an experience a bit like mine,
    But not qiute,
    He said it it was a kundilini awakening,
    Another member of a different forum,
    Also said that I could of gone through this,
    Okay I thought to my self,
    I'm finally finding out what happened,
    So I found an expert in this field,
    emailing him explaining what I went through,
    He said it was a bit like a kundilini,
    But I was too young,
    And he'd never heard of anyone hearing a voice,
    Or having heard any voices himself.

    Maybe some of you might have an answer?

    Here's what happened;

    its 1974.
    a happy, go lucky, normal 5 year old.
    not started school, yet.
    (Can't remember the day, or date)
    i'm standing in the kitchen,
    Its a bright sunny day,
    Light is streaming in through the window,
    I'm in the kitchen with my dad,
    When suddenly, with out warning,
    Every atom and molicule is vibrating,
    Shaking inside,
    Can't move,
    There feels like a large splinter is being pushed
    into the back of my head,
    As this splinter is pushed into my head,
    A voice, not mine is speaking,
    Calm,
    Firm,
    Not threatening,
    "THERES SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE
    WORLD AROUND YOU".
    then as suddenly as it started,
    It stopped.
    I wasn't scared,
    Never needed to be.
    Up until this day,
    I was right handed,
    Then after,
    I became left handed.

    I never told my dad
    What had happened,
    There in the kitchen,
    Didn't need too,
    I also knew,
    What could possibly happen if I did,
    Say anything to my parents,
    Even though I didn't really know
    What a doctor or psychiatrist was,
    At that time.
    I also knew,
    That God wasn't separate,
    How small the earth is,
    That there is life in the universe,
    Not just on this planet.
    And  death wasn't an end.
    After this event happened.

    How do I know that I wasn't making this up?
    My mum,
    Over the years,
    Has said,
    That it was my dad that made me left-handed.

    I remember my mum saying that
    She remembered that day,
    And saying recently,
    "That I thought it was a bit strange,
    When you started doing everything
    Left-handed.
    Luckily,
    My mum never took me to a doctor.

    Growing up,
    I have never told anyone,
    No one would understand,
    Just somehow knew.

    I've told people online,
    On the forums I've been on.

    I did tell my parents a few years ago,
    But I don't really think they understood.

    I've always been different.
    Wouldn't want to be any thing else
    When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine he had deciphered the illusion trading magic for fact,
    No tradebacks.....So this is what it's like to be an adult.

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    Default Re: Am I the only one?

    Amazing experience.

    “For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length--and there I travel looking, looking breathlessly.”
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    Roger, I'd rather know what you think happened, will you share your assessment with us?
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    Quote How do I know that I wasn't making this up?
    My mum,
    Over the years,
    Has said,
    That it was my dad that made me left-handed.
    Why did your mom say that? What made her believe that?

    Quote remember my mum saying that
    She remembered that day,
    And saying recently,
    "That I thought it was a bit strange,
    When you started doing everything
    Left-handed.
    What else did she noticed?

    You seem to me to be describing something that happened to your left brain (yes, we have two separate halves).
    And the result seems to me to be the right brain taking over because of left brain damage (left handed, hand is directed by opposite brain half), the feeling to be all one is a right brain feeling, feeling of knowing without knowing why one knows is a right brain feeling as well.

    Did your dad hit you?
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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote How do I know that I wasn't making this up?
    My mum,
    Over the years,
    Has said,
    That it was my dad that made me left-handed.
    Why did your mom say that? What made her believe that?

    Quote remember my mum saying that
    She remembered that day,
    And saying recently,
    "That I thought it was a bit strange,
    When you started doing everything
    Left-handed.
    What else did she noticed?

    You seem to me to be describing something that happened to your left brain (yes, we have two separate halves).
    And the result seems to me to be the right brain taking over because of left brain damage (left handed, hand is directed by opposite brain half), the feeling to be all one is a right brain feeling, feeling of knowing without knowing why one knows is a right brain feeling as well.

    Did your dad hit you?
    Or maybe bumped the back of your head on the kitchen table?

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    So it was titled, "Am I the Only One" - to have been bashed on the head by their dad at an early age?

    If you guys are right on this one I give up. Why go there? I just don't get it. I truly hope that you guys missed the entire point because if you didn't, I did.

    Wow, stunning

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    I’ve had a negative being vibrate me, my energy. I’ve had a benevolent being vibrate my body, similar to how you describe, maybe not as intense. I couldn’t move each time (temporarily, I can move if I want to by shifting my focus, some times harder to than others, it can be a struggle) and I sense it’s an effect of their presence on my mind and body, an energetic effect from the mix of such differing energy beings in close proximity to me. I knew they were extra dimensional beings because I could clearly sense them, their energy was very strong.

    I have, on rare occasion, heard other voices speak to me, mostly my higher self guiding me when I’m in trouble or scared, again, could clearly sense who it was.

    It’s usual for me to hear energy, I also feel sudden and intense pressure shifts in my ears and brain and sometimes very intense spears of energy enter my brain through my ear. The energy spears are precise, I can clearly sense they are directed at me and from where.

    It seems to me like an extra dimensional being helped you. A benevolent being because of the positive effect and powerful because of the intensity of the experience and effect. That’s what it seems like to me but my view is shaped by my experiences. My previous post is my way of saying you’d know best about what happened to you because it's your experience, so you're the expert seer in my eyes, even if it's just your best guess at this stage.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    So it was titled, "Am I the Only One" - to have been bashed on the head by their dad at an early age?

    If you guys are right on this one I give up. Why go there? I just don't get it. I truly hope that you guys missed the entire point because if you didn't, I did.

    Wow, stunning
    You need to start with the possible simpler explanation, the ordinary physical symptoms. Neurosurgeons can provoke a psychic experience simply by touching a given spot in the brain. Sudden left-handedness is not per se a psychic experience, or only indirectly so; there is likely a left-right brain effect. However, a simple cause can have a very real effect: the psychic experience and a very real effect on the experiencer. And that presupposes nothing about a possible agent behind the cause.

    Bob Dean had a psychic experience as a small child, brought on by a very material cause: he fell into a very deep canal. The ‘agent behind the cause’ was possibly behind the fall, but definitely behind scooping him back out onto terra firma.

    Why go there? you ask, Ernie. You could ask why did Bob Dean need to fall into a canal to have his experience? Because everything that happens in ordinary real life on planet earth is guided by such energies. It seems to us unnecessary, but clearly it is someone’s way of getting things done, maybe not here, maybe out there.

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    I was trying to calculate the year that this happened to you; maybe 1975. I wonder if you got caught in the line of fire of microwaves or electro-magnetic energy, say an X flare? Being so young, you might have been far more sensitive to energy waves than your parents. Being hit with electro-magnetic waves might switch your brain around. Just a thought.

    I have an unsubstantiated theory that Rh-, because they are said to have much copper in their blood, are sensitive to electro-magnetic waves. I know I am and I am Rh-.

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    So it was titled, "Am I the Only One" - to have been bashed on the head by their dad at an early age?

    If you guys are right on this one I give up. Why go there? I just don't get it. I truly hope that you guys missed the entire point because if you didn't, I did.

    Wow, stunning
    You need to start with the possible simpler explanation, the ordinary physical symptoms. Neurosurgeons can provoke a psychic experience simply by touching a given spot in the brain. Sudden left-handedness is not per se a psychic experience, or only indirectly so; there is likely a left-right brain effect. However, a simple cause can have a very real effect: the psychic experience and a very real effect on the experiencer. And that presupposes nothing about a possible agent behind the cause.

    Bob Dean had a psychic experience as a small child, brought on by a very material cause: he fell into a very deep canal. The ‘agent behind the cause’ was possibly behind the fall, but definitely behind scooping him back out onto terra firma.

    Why go there? you ask, Ernie. You could ask why did Bob Dean need to fall into a canal to have his experience? Because everything that happens in ordinary real life on planet earth is guided by such energies. It seems to us unnecessary, but clearly it is someone’s way of getting things done, maybe not here, maybe out there.
    Araucaria,

    Neurosurgeons may open up channels to our dimension by poking certain areas in the brain, effectively creating a wormhole, from there to here.

    I find his experience fascinating.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    So it was titled, "Am I the Only One" - to have been bashed on the head by their dad at an early age?

    If you guys are right on this one I give up. Why go there? I just don't get it. I truly hope that you guys missed the entire point because if you didn't, I did.

    Wow, stunning
    You need to start with the possible simpler explanation, the ordinary physical symptoms. Neurosurgeons can provoke a psychic experience simply by touching a given spot in the brain. Sudden left-handedness is not per se a psychic experience, or only indirectly so; there is likely a left-right brain effect. However, a simple cause can have a very real effect: the psychic experience and a very real effect on the experiencer. And that presupposes nothing about a possible agent behind the cause.

    Bob Dean had a psychic experience as a small child, brought on by a very material cause: he fell into a very deep canal. The ‘agent behind the cause’ was possibly behind the fall, but definitely behind scooping him back out onto terra firma.

    Why go there? you ask, Ernie. You could ask why did Bob Dean need to fall into a canal to have his experience? Because everything that happens in ordinary real life on planet earth is guided by such energies. It seems to us unnecessary, but clearly it is someone’s way of getting things done, maybe not here, maybe out there.
    Araucaria,

    Neurosurgeons may open up channels to our dimension by poking certain areas in the brain, effectively creating a wormhole, from there to here.

    I find his experience fascinating.
    Yes, it is fascinating, but I prefer to view it holistically, without automatically eliminating the nuts and bolts. This is a kitchen experience, not some revelation on a mountain-top. Bob Dean’s experience made it very memorable, which must be important, and it must have been important to prove to his mother that something very unusual had lifted him back out of a deep-sided canal. Similarly Roger Thingymebob will be reminded of his experience all the time, including every time he uses a pen or a knife. So there is more to this than the momentary triggering obtained by poking the brain; the hardwiring of his whole right-handed brain has been reverse wired with respect to the right-brain/left-brain asymmetry which remains stable. That is why a left-hander’s brain works differently. Left-handers form a minority that has traditionally been feared, ostracized or otherwise persecuted even in so-called primitive societies. I myself am only just too young to remember when it was not allowed for children to learn to write left-handed (myself being one who was allowed).

    Left-handedness seems to be often confused with or enlisted by what is known as the left-handed path.However, if 10% of the population is left-handed, and only 1% is on the left-handed path (and only some of them left-handed), that means that well over 90% of all left-handers are ambidextrously on the right-handed path. If they are seen as being of special value to the other side, it would make sense to understand that the rest of us are also of special value to our side, and to act upon that understanding.

    Edit to add: we may be talking about some kind of walk-in experience.
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    Thank you for your replies.
    I'll try to answer your questions.

    I don't know why or how this happened,
    I've asked my voices on many occasions,
    Over the years,
    But they just won't tell me.

    I have never been hit by my parents.

    I have never fallen, or hit My head on any tables.

    I wish I knew,
    Might help explain why I am here,
    Not only this forum,
    Here on this planet,
    In this body.

    It was 1974!
    I don't know nylon blood group,
    But I'm sure it's not RH-.

    I knew at 5,
    When this happened,
    What might happen if I told my parents,
    That I heard a voice in my head,
    And that I feel connected to everything,
    That death isn't an end,
    There is not such thing,
    How big our planet is,
    That I'm psychic,
    Telepathic,
    That I'd rather use my mind to talk to people
    Rather then my own voice,
    That the world around me confuses me,
    I don't judge people by how they look.
    Everyone is the same,
    I don't like churches,
    I can talk to the higher consciousness,
    Without going to a man made building.
    And hear voices that know information,
    That as a 5 year old, you don't understand.

    I'll ask you this;
    "What would you do for your 5 year old child,
    Told you this?"
    Not having any books on these subjects in the house?
    Your 5 year old hasn't started school yet?
    The next door neighbour children are of the same age?
    And the only place your child goes is in the back garden?
    When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine he had deciphered the illusion trading magic for fact,
    No tradebacks.....So this is what it's like to be an adult.

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    Sometimes it feels like I shouldn't be here,
    Like everyone else has an instruction book,
    And somehow I didn't get one.

    I've met many different people on my way through life,
    If still makes me feel weird,
    When I meet people younger than me,
    How somehow have managed to fit more in,
    They have a house
    Mortgage
    Car
    Children
    Act like adults
    Seem to be older
    Talk older
    They've seemed to cram so much in
    In and short space of time.
    How?

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    I still feel homesick
    When I look up into a clear night sky,
    And want to be up there with them.
    When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine he had deciphered the illusion trading magic for fact,
    No tradebacks.....So this is what it's like to be an adult.

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    I don't get angry or annoyed if people have different opinions,
    That's how I learn.

    Feeling sick,
    When in a group of people,
    And the subject of death arises,
    And one person saying,
    "When you die, that's it's, I'll be buried in the ground,
    And be eaten by worms",
    And I want to shout,
    "NO",
    But they wouldn’t believe me.
    I just know
    Always have done.

    I'm the boy that says
    "The King's got on clothes on",
    When the rest of the crowd ate cheering the king's
    Wonderful new clothes.

    I'm the one standing there asking people,
    That are walking towards an edge of a cliff,
    Asking them why are you doing this?
    When he was six he believed that the moon overhead followed him
    By nine he had deciphered the illusion trading magic for fact,
    No tradebacks.....So this is what it's like to be an adult.

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    Roger, you are supposed to be different. When you raise children, you learn that they don’t have to be like everyone else, not even like you; so you need to go beyond that simple observation and see how your particular configuration might function wherever you happen to be, without worrying about others. If you are playing the trumpet in an orchestra, you don’t worry about not playing along with the violins, you don’t worry if you have literally ten minutes with nothing to do. You know the score and do your thing when the time comes.

    Maybe you have nothing to do right now, but I would suggest you are building up experience that will serve you in good stead when the time comes. Alternatively, you may be just waiting, like a trumpeter, or like firemen playing cards all day until they are called out. You know better than most that you are here for a purpose and that seems to be connected with some coming disaster scenario. I’m sure emergency services personnel would like to be back home somewhere often enough, but when they swing into action they don’t have time to fell homesick.

    On the subject of death, hundreds of millions of Catholics believe in an after-life or did so until recently, and many more Buddhists believe in reincarnation. The idea of total extinction is actually a fairly new concept for the human psyche to be playing around with. It could be that a few overly negative souls will actually experience that fate and are not liking the idea – they are going down, and would like to take as many others as possible with them. Instead of feeling confrontational, one can play around with the things people say. For instance, perhaps an event or relationship is not going to happen in someone’s present lifetime: you might jokingly suggest it as a possibility next time around. This type of osmosis is a much more interesting way of relating to people; they get to experience what you are in a painless manner, and in return you get closer to them, making you feel less isolated and so relieving your pain somewhat. You really must find your common ground with the rest of humanity, because the feeling of knowing something that others don’t know is precisely what gives rise to the pseudo-superiority, elitism and secrecy that take others down the negative path.

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    Roger,

    Welcome.

    I can't explain your experience, but everything you said about your current situation suggests to me that you are a what may be termed a wanderer.

    The symptoms you describe of loneliness etc, your broader vision, your wanting to go "home" - which you feel is not here, probably because it is not.

    These symptoms are exactly the same as tens of millions (perhaps now, hundreds of millions) of wanderers all over the world. "Wanderers" in this context are experienced souls, evolved elsewhere in the universe, that enter into the cycle of earthly birth and death voluntarily rather than by being part of those who work out an entire evolutionary cycle on this planet. I describe myself as such, been through some what you appear to have and there are many others on this forum.

    We come because we were called, and we come to serve.

    If I am right, then you are here, essentially to serve, and your among the tools you possess for this service are the powerful insights that come from your unusual experience.

    Given that you have an intrinsic sense that we are all one, you will not be like those who do not have this advantage/knowledge and you wont be relying on any faith in such a thing, because you know it as fact. This is surely a position of strength and not doubt.

    I don't know a single wanderer who didn't go through this in some measure - the odd experiences, the longing for home, the "what am I here for" moments as we find our way to the remembering of that self elected mission and our purpose.

    If you think what I am saying makes any sense at all, then the time may now have come for you to stop worrying about all that and turn your intent instead to finding and refining your inner vision, and then work to bring it about. We all share these visions of beauty, peace, harmony and oneness at some level and we aspire to see it on this planet and among its people.

    Once you have found and re-internalized your "mission-plan", then you are free to act as necessary to bring that vision about for the entire period remaining to you as an oddly matched, somewhat out-of-sorts incarnate entity on this wonderful planet that is going through quite a lot of transformation and needs our help.

    I hope this makes sense and is helpful. Even if it doesn't, thanks for reading.

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    I had an experience that was somewhat similar to yours. I did not have the molecular vibration with the experience but I received a strong message that was not in my voice. It strongly stated "everything you know is wrong". I had no idea what that meant in the least. In fact, at that time I questioned nothing. Over the years, I was to discover that there was much truth to it. In fact, I would say it ended up being the theme of my life, though not by intention.

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    Rogerthingymebob,

    You are here for a reason. This sounds so corny and I hate applying it to anybody, because of overuse. It is also used by all sorts of narcissistic types in a self aggrandizing way. You strike me as having an honest to God shamanic personality. Tell us more about the voices. Are they always uplifting and helpful? Do they tell you about things like future events, send you visions?

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    Roger
    is your mother still alive. .If so please ASK her why she said your father was responsible 'Didn't you ever Ask her what she meant?

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    Quote Posted by RogerThingymebob (here)
    I'll ask you this;
    "What would you do for your 5 year old child,
    Told you this?"
    Not having any books on these subjects in the house?
    Your 5 year old hasn't started school yet?
    The next door neighbour children are of the same age?
    And the only place your child goes is in the back garden?
    This same sort of situation actually happened to me. My son told me all sorts of things I didn’t understand from the time he could talk. My mother is highly psychically gifted and I’m an experiencer, but I didn't give it much thought before he came along, even though I had always been fascinated by the paranormal, so I was pretty clueless as to what he was telling me.

    I just listened and did my best to understand what he was telling me. I consulted an excellent psychic medium about him, she helped me understand some more. I already knew he was interacting with beings I couldn’t see, I figured they were ghosts. I saw him responding to them while he was a baby, one time I heard a female voice teaching him about what I was doing (just mundane stuff, housework). But then when he could speak, wow, it turned out to be a lot stranger than just a few ghosts.

    My son is very different and highly sensitive and aware, so another thing I learned to do was to protect him from others. He would often say things he couldn’t possibly know to people and it would freak them out sometimes and he didn’t understand why, so he would get scared from their reactions. I would just distract him as soon as I saw that look on their face, so he wouldn’t get scared. So I have witnessed why you had the knowing not to tell others who wouldn’t understand.

    My son has been a trigger for my own development, so I understand much more these days. I’ve found Avalon an excellent platform to help with my understanding, my awareness has exploded and continues to do so since I became a member here. I highly recommend sharing your experiences and thoughts and reading others’ experiences, a lot arises from interacting with people here, both energetically and intellectually. When you don’t have much of an idea about what you’re experiencing it’s wise to do as Araucaria has suggested and start with the physical first and work your way out from there, being grounded is important.

    Most of my knowledge/understanding comes from exploring my own consciousness and learning from experiences, exploring is a brilliant and powerful way to learn about the things you have asked about.

    Quote I still feel homesick
    When I look up into a clear night sky,
    And want to be up there with them.
    Are you familiar with Mary Rodwell’s work? I’m not suggesting you’re an abductee but you may find her work interesting and helpful, her work covers a few areas I think you could relate to and it may help with some ideas of your purpose here and why you feel so different. The lecture below is excellent and I highly recommend taking the time to watch it (it's long).



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    I have now participated in this community for five years (the alternative possibility community). Most of this participation has been spent here on the Project Avalon forum. I am not at all trying to speak for anyone else or in anyway trying to get anyone to think like what I am about to state. It is just my own conclusion based on my own experience in this community, on the forums and with the folks I have met through these forums.

    I have discovered that many, many clearly sincere folks have had anomalous experiences which in turn they have then interpreted these experiences in ways that suggest there are specific dynamics to the graeter (and perhaps overall) reality experience where, if you then try and reconcile one persons suggested dynamics (paradigm) with another's paradigm derived in the same way, you end up experiencing paradigm wars.

    For example, I have met and conversed with three different individuals who have stated specifically exactly who a well known "mythical being form outer space" is and how that being manifests today where it is impossible that each of these are true unless!!!... and this is the key to what I have discovered about folks (including myself) who have experienced such anomalous experiences. It is possible that the experiences are real with regards to how that individual has translated the experience such that they are able to reconcile the experience with their own ability to actually believe they had the experience.

    I will give an example - remember in the movie Contact where Ellie (Jodi Foster) perceives she meets "the intelligence" that had made contact. And this intelligence appeared to her as her deceased father.

    Quote The alien tells her that the familiar landscape and form were used to make their first contact easier for her and that this journey was just humanity's first step to joining other spacefaring species.
    from this link

    I feel fortunate to have transcended these paradigm wars but I can assure you that the experience of doing so was not easy. Now though I have implemented into my operational protocol that I must honor those who insist their paradigm is the right one while having a different view about it all simultaneously and while maintaining the great relationship simultaneously. I always consider that it is possible, there may actually be one actual, real truth though if so, that is still relegated to the realm of form.

    Here was my own anomalous experience which I posted about on this forum almost five years ago -

    My possible abduction experience
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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