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    Cole in Auschwitz

    Quote A Jewish revisionist visits Auschwitz in order to uncover the real facts about the so-called holocaust.

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    Bryn ap Gwilym,

    You have raised a most interesting point here on this thread regarding persecuted people.

    The people of Cymry, who originally inhabited a much larger geographical area, have been hounded and culturally surpressed for hundreds of years.

    It is little known fact that their culture was extemely advanced, extremely ancient and shared many similarities to ancient Vedic culture. There are many welsh words today that are uncannily similar to their sanskrit counterpart.

    The question is why do dark forces want to obliterate the mystic knowledge of Cymry? Your references to the Washington monument, etc. are most intriguing.

    Certainly this topic deserves its own thread, if anyone feels qualified in their understanding of the subject to do so. I would certainly like to know more! (Sorry if I got spelling/usage for 'Cymry' wrong)
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    Quote Posted by Lost Soul (here)
    There's too much evidence to deny that the holocaust did not exist. Read the memoirs or letters of American GIs who stumbled into the camps. One group of GIs round up about twenty prison guards and Waffen SS and shot them all. Can't say I blame them for that, but today we would have tried those (outraged) GIs with war crimes.

    I read somewhere that the purpose of WW II was to have a holocaust so that a Jewish state may be created in the Middle East and in so doing, destabilize that region.
    If and this is a big if, we get clearance from Bill Ryan, I will take you on a ride through this construction known as the holocaust and to others, like me, as the holohoax.
    Be aware that if we are allowed to debate this openly, some of the information is considered verboten in parts of Europe, but I assure you that I know probably more about this than all of you combined.
    You may consider this an arrogant statement, but if we go ahead with a thread on this, I think I can foresee a time where you may agree with my statement.
    Some of you may label me a holocaust denier, but I would ask you this, how could I deny something that never happened?
    What actually did happen and what is said to have happened are, in most cases poles apart and a lot of the claims are scientifically impossible.

    Now, onto your post here, the western allies never set foot in a ''death camp'', those are all conveniently located in what was the soviet zone and none of our nations had anyone see them.
    There was indeed a massacre of SS guards, but it wasn't 20, it was 300.
    The guards were mainly recovering SS combat troops not regular Totenkopfverbande guards.
    This was at Dachau, the first camp that came into operation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_massacre


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    David later recanted all his information and never made the videos after this one that he planned and spoke about during this vid.
    The reason he recanted is that the jewish defense league threatened his life.

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    Holocaust debate with David Cole

    Quote In 1994, two gas chamber deniers, Bradley Smith and David Cole went on national television. The maker of One Third Of The Holocaust points out moments like when everyone (except Smith) believes an obviously fraudulent phone caller.

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    THERE IS A REASON FOR EVERYTHING..NOTHING IS COINCIDENCE.

    For Americans, the overthrow of our nation was quietly done by this cabal of animals, they first took over our money supply... then our banking,then quietly took over our medicine, then our media/entertainment industries, they own most sportsteams, then our news, then our universities, then our libraries, then our publishing both print, music,then our corporations, then most of our crime, and finally they took over our government....now there is no aspect of this lunacy that isn't pervasive in our existence.
    Doubt that this is true? They don't try to hide this fact. They want you to know..
    all you have to do is look at their last names. Look at where they meet. Look at who they support.Read their 'religious tracts, they tell you right up front what they think of you, and your part in their world..we're the slaves...they are the master race.

    My hope is that we can expose this, as the ONLY World War there ever was, and is, as it is ongoing and about to be won. By them.

    My view is, free thinking humanity is and has been a thing of the past. Less than 1% of the population of the earth has any idea such a conspiracy even exists. and if you get too close...or get in their way...you're dead.

    Now that's just my opinion...I could be wrong...

    Still...I refuse to hate anyone...I will not be dragged down to their level...and I wish love and peace for all humankind...

    even them.
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    Quote Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
    Fred259 Hi

    No I don't mean celts. In essence there is no such people as the celts, for this was yet another 17th century english invention to suppress & confuse the masses. It also doubled up for intertwining false bloodlines into the Cymry history to which this enabling them to falsely claim a throne, but these false monarchs still need the jacobs pillow / stone of Skone (scone). The Cymry has this title by birth right.

    War machine:
    We are still fighting for our language to have equal rights for the zionists / english are trying their hardest to stamp it out. S4c is the only Cymraeg language channel on the planet, but westmister is in the process of closing it down. Cymraeg, Coelbren & hieroglyphics are all the same & hold the very key of history. If the masses start to study the language then the game is up for the frauds. (Look up Alan Wilson & Baram Blackette - MOSES IN THE HIEROGLYPHS) http://www.kingarthurslegacy.com/bookmoses.html Suppressed historians.
    Our history is refused in schools including Uni. While english brainwashing make-believe is forced on the world. Our culture is refused sponsorship & suppressed while the likes of morris dancing is promoted etc.The only language that isn't allowed to be spoken in the house of commons is Cymraeg, while the likes of german & yiddish is used.
    Political red tape along with their law lords, shills, trolls etc are doing their damned hardest to erase the Cymry once & for all. The list is endless.

    An example is in my sig. How many Americans know that Cymraeg is on the monument? Two years ago scaffolding was erected for Bush wanted it removed. He failed.
    The same time he ordered the plaque of Prince Madoc to be taken down & destroyed. It was taken down, but a higher power ordered it to be put back up.
    Many thanks Bryn,

    I’m interested in your comments.

    Are you saying that Irish & Scots are not Celts?

    And are you saying that the "Stone of Scone" has no relevance?

    I don’t think you can stop the English from “Morris Dancing” do they still do that ? Is that the same as dancing around the Maypole or whatever…. Ha… I can hear the Aussies having a laugh.

    I feel a land grab coming on, is that what your grumbling about?

    Half of Wales is full of sheep; in fact you’ve probably more sheep in Wales than New South Wales, what’s the problem Bryn?
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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    If and this is a big if, we get clearance from Bill Ryan, I will take you on a ride through this construction known as the holocaust and to others, like me, as the holohoax.
    Be aware that if we are allowed to debate this openly, some of the information is considered verboten in parts of Europe, but I assure you that I know probably more about this than all of you combined.
    You may consider this an arrogant statement, but if we go ahead with a thread on this, I think I can foresee a time where you may agree with my statement.
    Some of you may label me a holocaust denier, but I would ask you this, how could I deny something that never happened?
    What actually did happen and what is said to have happened are, in most cases poles apart and a lot of the claims are scientifically impossible.
    Hi Lord Sidious, I for one would be very interested to hear what you have to share.

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    What actually did happen and what is said to have happened are, in most cases poles apart and a lot of the claims are scientifically impossible.
    911 anyone?

    WWll destroyed the British Empire.
    911 destroyed the US.

    We could probably go far back in history and see how every war or revolt has been a chess piece move of the elites to build their 'nwo' and obtain world domination BWAH HAHAHAHHA AHAHAHAHHA.

    I've never understood why world domination was such a desire. Who wants to manage a world? Bo-o-o-o-ring! But I don't go much for chess, either, really.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    It seems that many crimes, large and small, have an element of control through shame. Be it child molestation or mass genocide, the perpetrators often engage others in order to control them through the shame of presumed guilt in the deed.

    My working hypothesis in the case of the Holocaust is that it is exaggerated and misrepresented, in order to provide such a lever of shame control.
    That's a very valid point, Thepythoniccow - only what I have a hard time understanding is why the US citizens feel that way. The US gvt is one of the biggest defenders of the holocaust and the country who fund Israel to a large degree (and we know why that is) but what is it that makes the everyday people feel guilt about it?
    Unless - it was because they entered the war after the bombing of Pearl Harbour and refused to before. That though only just occured to me. And maybe that 'guilt' has been used to stop them questioning anything.

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    Always ready to hear more. No matter what the source, always are more pieces to add to the puzzle.

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    [QUOTE=Teakai;113961]
    Quote But what is it that makes the everyday people feel guilt about it?
    Because they know its wrong, yet they are powerless to act.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Hi Lord Sidious, I for one would be very interested to hear what you have to share.



    911 anyone?

    WWll destroyed the British Empire.
    911 destroyed the US.

    We could probably go far back in history and see how every war or revolt has been a chess piece move of the elites to build their 'nwo' and obtain world domination BWAH HAHAHAHHA AHAHAHAHHA.

    I've never understood why world domination was such a desire. Who wants to manage a world? Bo-o-o-o-ring! But I don't go much for chess, either, really.
    Its an illusion that the sun went down on the British Empire.

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    Quote Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
    What is ironic is the jews were not the Israelites but only about 19 small tribes in the far south. The Israelites were the Omrides, today's Cymry (Welsh). They were the advance race which is inscribed on the black obelisk, Moabite stone, royal inscription of Sargon II of Assyria, Behistun Rock etc etc. 10x millions have been raped, tortured & murdered over the years with hardly a single reference to this genocide can be found in modern zion/jew english literature. History was rewritten by many, King James, the illuminati, Oxford Uni & the American congress to name just a few. The holocaust is nothing more than zion propaganda. along with jewish so called history resulting in covering up an ancient royal bloodline & replacing it with the frauds we know today.
    The truth preaches are also guilty of spreading this lie. Why? You decide!
    The Cymry are still fighting the war machine on a daily base now while the rest of the world sleeps in its brainwashed english indoctrinated slumber.
    The gypsies are also of Cymry descent.

    Nothing is as it seems.
    That is really fascinating, Bryn ap Gwilym. So going even further into it - it's not even really anything to do with the semetic Jews at all - except they happen to be in the desired place and so were handy to use to achieve a means to an end.

    In Herodotus' travels there was no mention of the tribes of Israel - so this may have all been dreamed up at a much later date.
    Anatoly Fomeko gives evidence that the bible was really written around the 14th century, King James re-worked it in the 16th century.

    Thinking about the Scottish rite of Freemasonary here. Apparently child abuse is rampant in Scotland which rarely/never make it to the light of day.

    The gypsys definitely are interesting. This is a fascinating subject just by itself.

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    T So going even further into it - it's not even really anything to do with the semetic Jews at all - except they happen to be in the desired place and so were handy to use to achieve a means to an end.
    Gods chosen people - only which gods?

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    Its an illusion that the sun went down on the British Empire.
    Hi Fred, I think it was that "the sun 'never' sets" on the British empire - because they owned so much - it was always daylight somewhere.

    Or are you saying that the British Empire still remains in a certain form, only not by that name? Because then we could say the Roman Empire never fell either - it just moved.
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    Quote If and this is a big if, we get clearance from Bill Ryan, I will take you on a ride through this construction known as the holocaust and to others, like me, as the holohoax. Be aware that if we are allowed to debate this openly, some of the information is considered verboten in parts of Europe, but I assure you that I know probably more about this than all of you combined. You may consider this an arrogant statement, but if we go ahead with a thread on this, I think I can foresee a time where you may agree with my statement. Some of you may label me a holocaust denier, but I would ask you this, how could I deny something that never happened?
    What actually did happen and what is said to have happened are, in most cases poles apart and a lot of the claims are scientifically impossible.
    Hi Lord Sidious, my understanding is that we need to investigate and unearth all topics to get to the truth - no exceptions. I am not sure why this needs "approval" There is no censorship here so long as what is written is done with the best of intents and historical facts can be supported with references. Many topics discussed at Avalon are controversial - it is up to the individual to discern truth from fiction once all opinions and references are tabled. Without all facts this task is impossible.

    I have certainly gone with the "rolled out" version of truth on the matter and if this is not correct, then I (as well as others) would appreciate the information you have that could highlight where written history is wrong. And given the propensity of the ptw to write history to suit themselves I should not be shocked to discover that this as well as incorrect. We need to right the wrongs - no-one else is doing it.

    Please start your thread, it appears you have much to tell and I look forward to what will in all liklihood be a healthy debate with members here.

    (If you have safety concerns, I understand the topic can be stored as members only - at the discretion of Bill and/or Mods)

    Witchy

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    That is really fascinating, Bryn ap Gwilym. So going even further into it - it's not even really anything to do with the semetic Jews at all - except they happen to be in the desired place and so were handy to use to achieve a means to an end.

    In Herodotus' travels there was no mention of the tribes of Israel - so this may have all been dreamed up at a much later date.
    Anatoly Fomeko gives evidence that the bible was really written around the 14th century, King James re-worked it in the 16th century.

    Quote Thinking about the Scottish rite of Freemasonary here. Apparently child abuse is rampant in Scotland which rarely/never make it to the light of day
    .


    This is very true, we have serious problems with this and utterly corrupt MPs who cover it all up. Who told you this?

    The gypsys definitely are interesting. This is a fascinating subject just by itself.

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    Hi Fred, I think it was that "the sun 'never' sets" on the British empire - because they owned so much - it was always daylight somewhere.

    Quote Or are you saying that the British Empire still remains in a certain form, only not by that name?
    Because then we could say the Roman Empire never fell either - it just moved.
    Yes, Cecil Rhodes passed the lantern to Rothschild and look at the mess we are in today.

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    Quote Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
    What is ironic is the jews were not the Israelites but only about 19 small tribes in the far south. The Israelites were the Omrides, today's Cymry (Welsh). They were the advance race which is inscribed on the black obelisk, Moabite stone, royal inscription of Sargon II of Assyria, Behistun Rock etc etc. 10x millions have been raped, tortured & murdered over the years with hardly a single reference to this genocide can be found in modern zion/jew english literature. History was rewritten by many, King James, the illuminati, Oxford Uni & the American congress to name just a few. The holocaust is nothing more than zion propaganda. along with jewish so called history resulting in covering up an ancient royal bloodline & replacing it with the frauds we know today.
    The truth preaches are also guilty of spreading this lie. Why? You decide!
    The Cymry are still fighting the war machine on a daily base now while the rest of the world sleeps in its brainwashed english indoctrinated slumber.
    The gypsies are also of Cymry descent.

    Nothing is as it seems.
    My last name is the anglo version of Gwilym(s)

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    Quote My last name is the anglo version of Gwilym
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    So are you a Taf as well then?

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    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)
    I,ve enjoyed reading your post Bryn ap Qwilym.

    I was just wondering if when you say today’s Cymry, do you really mean “Celts”?

    When you say you are still fighting the war machine daily, what do you mean?
    Cymru is Wales. Cymry is Welsh person/people.

    Celts are a very large group.

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    [QUOTE=modwiz;113989]
    Quote Celts are a very large group
    Are you Celtic?


    Modwiz - Are you from they Catskill Mountains or have you escaped to the Catskill Mountains – what are you doing to get out of this mess? What’s the plan?

    We are very concerned, seriously..

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    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)
    So are you a Taf as well then?
    Not sure, so good chance no.. I do not know what a T af is. Care to enlighten? Sure I'm not alone in finding this term new.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)

    Because they know its wrong, yet they are powerless to act.
    I don't understand, Fred? They know what is wrong? I think most of them believe the official holocaust version - as most of them believe the official 911 version.

    In which case - the only thing I can think they have to feel guilty about - is not coming into the war immediately. Is there any US citizen out there who can answer this for me?

    My personal experience is that people simply get angry and emotional if you try and have a discussion about it. The door doesn't even get opened, but for a crack before it's slammed shut.

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