Is this becoming the all Charles forum

[irishspirit]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Hi Folks:

[Mod Hat On]

A clarification: Shiva777 had for a long time been flouting posting guidelines, and the mods had had many attempts to communicate with him. Redeyeblue was verbally violent, and was asked to leave. Manny was drunk when he made a very abusive outburst, and was unsubscribed for 30 days. He e-mailed us to apologize very magnanimously. He will be welcomed back.

Members are never asked to leave because of their views. They are asked to leave because of their conduct. Please see my opening post on the Welcome thread for more details.

I can attest to that Bill. Avalon is, and will continue to be, the greatest forum on the internet.

I have never been made to feel apart of something quite as amazing as Avalon. People are free to express their views without being attacked, on a personal or intellectual way.

Avalon is different to all others for many reason. Avalon has a purpose and a reason for being. And I am proud and privileged to be invited here, and to share so much time with many many great people.

[Bill Ryan]

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Out of interest (and to answer the question in the thread title!) I just took this screenshot:

[Gajanana]

Well put Irish. I would also like to underline that even if I say something maybe a bit off course, being put right is done in such an acceptable way, that I dont feel "bad" about it... a very cool place indeed. Tipping my hat to Bill

[jorr lundstrom]

No its all members forum

[greybeard]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Hi Folks:

[Mod Hat On]

A clarification: Shiva777 had for a long time been flouting posting guidelines, and the mods had had many attempts to communicate with him. Redeyeblue was verbally violent, and was asked to leave. Manny was drunk when he made a very abusive outburst, and was unsubscribed for 30 days. He e-mailed us to apologize very magnanimously. He will be welcomed back.

Members are never asked to leave because of their views. They are asked to leave because of their conduct. Please see my opening post on the Welcome thread for more details.

Having been a member of this and previous PA I feel that Bill and the Mods do a great Job, they are very tolerant.
I have been asked to be a Mod on several occasions but said no as I am very out of the box at times and there is no point tin being a Mod if I cant stick to the guideline/rules, I dont and tend to wander of topic, I have not been pulled up for it as I tend to self correct after a while.

I am opinionated and promote the ego thread strongly on every occasion I can as I personally believe it is very important to do so.
I of course still have one, EGO, my humor is also intact Laughing.

What I am sayng is that this is a brilliant forum, well run with consideration for all members old and new. There are many excellent posts from new members.
So while I would like to whole heartedly support Charles I cant hand on heart do so yet.
I do however whole heartedly support Bill.

regards to all
Chris

[sepia]

Posted by Levent tonga (here)
Hi Sepia,
I think Master means not a "Sahib","owner" but a Teacher.
Yes you can be your own teacher but also you can use a light from any source.

Sincerely Love

Thank you, for picking my sentence up again.

I learned from many Teachers and still do.
I met Masters - spiritual beings, free from Karma, humble, compassionate - enlightened you would say - in this world and in the spiritual realms.

The learning process goes on and I'm more than grateful for this.

My point was the following:

What we see, perceive and love on others we can bring to light inside of us.

But if your head falls back into your neck in awe and fascination, you make yourself small.

This would mean to repeat what is taught by the church (at least in my culture):

"Jesus is God's son and you are not worth the sand on his feet."

Our potential is beyond limits. - But you know that

On this Forum this will not be forgotten.

[BenjiRixon]

Well i might as well throw my 10 pence worth in

I must admit the charles material first brought me to this forum as i was looking for more info/evidence after watching the video, but once here i noticed all the other topics and subjects and realised this is the place i need to be. As Upon reading the various topics and subjects, i had found many answers i have been looking for and also like minded people who share the same views. This is by far the best place to find wide and varied info with the minimum amount of bs and very knowledgable memebers with huge bs radars to ensure quality information, which makes it such a great community to be part of, its not just a 'one trick pony'.

For me the charles material is just another subject/topic that i read about with an open mind and wait for more info to unfold before i make any assumptions as such.

[Nela]

Posted by Levent tonga (here)
Hi Sepia,
I think Master means not a "Sahib","owner" but a Teacher.
Yes you can be your own teacher but also you can use a light from any source.
I had a lot master in the past ;They were my professor, my Chess partner, my (experienced) co-worker, old time philosophizer.
They never had me, I had my own free will.

Sincerely Love

Hi Levent tonga,

I think that in the context it was made, this statement is a very profound one and address a really big issue. It is about looking up to external authority versus taking responsibility for yourself. And this is the very lesson that human race is about to learn. And in the context that it was made, Master does not mean Teacher. The intent of those self-proclaimed Masters and Rulers of the World is not to teach us, but to own us, and it is very clear.

However, if people learn to take all they have experienced as a lessons, and learn that there is no other authority in their life except themselves and to finally get up and stand on their own feet, and get out of victim mentality, that is when the shift happens. THAN the Masters and Rulers will became a teachers, even if unwillingly. Than we take away power that we gave them, and we are free.

After we gain our own freedom, we have an obligation to carry and share this spirit among our fellow people, but not by becoming their teachers, leaders, gurus and masters (I would never go down that road, it is very corruptible for the soul) but by being an example and inspiration.

[araucaria]

Posted by araucaria (here)
I thought Bill had lost all credibility with the Serpo business?! I expect he'd just eat his hat, buy a headscarf or something, and carry on as before. And so would we.
'His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery' (James Joyce)

This post may have been ambiguous, if so I apologise. My joining this forum is proof that for myself Bill's credibility is intact and will remain so. However, I feel like an inexperienced driver trying to join the motorway at rush hour.
If I may add, you guys are just so nice to each other, did no one tell you it doesn't work this way: this bird won't fly?!
Yes but it does, doesn't it, a whole flock in fact, producing some amazing shapes!
Best wishes to all

[Annie]

It is great that you cleared this up for all Bill.These tiny little seeds of discontent tend to grow into large distracting trees.

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A lovely post araucaria.Well said

[OneLittleFrog]

Posted by Annie (here)
It is great that you cleared this up for all Bill.These tiny little seeds of discontent tend to grow into large distracting trees.

That's correct, seeds of discontent must be stomped out.

I'm sorry, I'll leave peacefully .............................

[Intraphase]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
That's correct, seeds of discontent must be stomped out.

I'm sorry, I'll leave peacefully .............................

Are you a victim?
Or are you a frog?

Frogs don't think like that.
Be a frog. Why? It ain't easy being green.
Kermit The Frog

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco

This is how the pro vs. con Annunaki arguments stack up. One or the other.

The Eye begets Frog Jesus

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5TKerWEQono

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)

Posted by Annie (here)
It is great that you cleared this up for all Bill.These tiny little seeds of discontent tend to grow into large distracting trees.

That's correct, seeds of discontent must be stomped out.

I'm sorry, I'll leave peacefully .............................

Might be more accurate to say seeds of misunderstanding.

[Carmody]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Quite wrong.

The care I was taking was because of the sensitivity of the subject matter. I was astounded that the interview was taking place at all. I hadn't known for sure until we turned the camera on that it was actually going to happen.

I wasn't concerned about my safety. I was concerned about making a good interview from the opportunity of a synthesis of more than 30 hours of prior conversation, much of which covered very complicated ground, in limited time.

yes. it was my understanding that the process of the interview had to be accelerated to some degree. I winced when I watched it for that very reason, knowing some people would see it in their minds.. as an 'arranged' set up. Where if it were a court of inquiry -which journalistic interviews are in some ways, regarding the idea of bringing out data to the given observing group- people would be screaming from the rooftops "Objection! He's leading he witness, your Honor!"

The problem for them (viewers of the prior interviews), is that every single interview that had come before, was of the exact opposite nature. Ones where you and/or Kerry, would sit there and allow the person to ramble on, with as little interruption as is possible. These viewers would and could be very shocked, confused, and concerned when they saw this seeming 'arranged' format emerge in this interview.

I read the words you stated before and in the typed bits before the interview, so there was an awareness of what was going on. Still.. I had to sit back and wait. Now, for most other people, clarity on these seemingly subtle but critical points is being taken in and ruminated upon.

[peterspm]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
That's correct, seeds of discontent must be stomped out.

I'm sorry, I'll leave peacefully .............................

things don't look very peaceful to me, not with billions living on less than a dollar a day.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by peterspm (here)
things don't look very peaceful to me, not with billions living on less than a dollar a day.

Off-topic, but here's one statistic which shocked me when I heard it a few years ago - and which I still remember:

There are 2 billion people who have never made a telephone call.

(13 years ago, in 1998, it was half the world's population.)

[Nela]

Posted by OneLittleFrog (here)
That's correct, seeds of discontent must be stomped out.

I'm sorry, I'll leave peacefully .............................

Oh, OneLittleFrog came back, don't give up so easily! We all need each other, there is so small number of us in the world!
Pull yourself together and drag your little green ass back here!

[Mike]

the Charles material, whether good or bad intent, whether accurate or inaccurate or somewhere in between, is, well...fun! i'm enjoying the give and take here, and fully understand the ramifications of Charles' disclosures, but I retain the right to remain steadfastly ambivalent until I decide to jump off to one side of the proverbial fence. I'm digesting all of this with a grain of salt(or 2) and simply enjoying the ride. I'll need a bit more than an interesting video to be totally convinved, and until then I'll maintain a healthy dose of what I think we'd all do well to maintain: an unserious seriousness. a bit cloudy, a bit abstract? yes. but i think you all get the idea

[Mayan2012]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I don't think Bill will fall if Charles turns out to be a deceiver. I'm involved here because of the quality of the members not this particular bit of material (it did catch my eye and bring me here) although if we get some decent information about our history I'll be delighted.

I'm with you joedjemal.
Bill credibility does not depend on Charles in the slightest.
Bill simply is the one who brought him to us so that we could be presented with new information.
Weather it turns out to be true or not is not a reflection on Bill.
I am thankful that Bill does present us with a variety of information for us to chew and digest or chew and spit out. It's up to us.

XLNT work Bill and thank you for all you do.

[Tangri]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Off-topic, but here's one statistic which shocked me when I heard it a few years ago - and which I still remember:

There are 2 billion people who have never made a telephone call.

(13 years ago, in 1998, it was half the world's population.)

I am sorry Bill, but I am little skeptic about statistics.
Unlike North America, Europe most of third word country do not use cell phone or resident phone.
They have pay phone , post office phone.(in a small town one phone serves everybody.)
Now days same statistics is going to be on internet usage. most of the population using internet cafes. if you minus 300 millions N .American+ 400millions Europeans you do the Math.