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    Question: Pence's best friend keeps getting mentioned as on the list. Somebody must know who Pence's best friend is.

    Also, the implication has been in some videos that Pence's best friends name being on the list - and Pence not being notified - was the reason Flynn got fired. That would suggest that Pence feels that protecting his friend was more important than getting to the bottom of PizzaGate and saving children?!?! Maybe.

    I'm more inclined to suspect that Trump (who was already inundated with bad press) just thought it was easier to fire Flynn than keep fighting or perhaps Trump wasn't ready to even mention PizzaGate yet, as to not reveal his plans? . . . except, it seems most of the elite already are aware of his plans. Conundrum ?!?!?
    Publicly: Flynn was fired for violating the Logan Act.. a law that no one has ever been convicted of violating and never will be (we have the 1st amendment after all) an Act that would (if it were prosecutable) enable us to arrest every single American Bilderburg attendee.

    So the "reason" for him getting fired is pretty shady already, unbelievably so in fact... I think it was a targeted smear campaign, and I think your right, trump fell for it and went a head and fired Flynn because of it (and it's controversy baggage).

    I think there's a different reason for him being removed, but keep in mind, all this "flynn had a list" business comes from ONE source: Steele... so grain of salt there, single source info like that (with zero evidence to back it up) is highly questionable to me.

    Yea, my tingly senses are saying they are having a go at pulling off a "full spectrum dominance" tactic, probably for the first time ever and it's going to be a wild ride as they find out if it will actually succeed or if it will get them all slammed up. I guess some of them even have ass saving plans for failure too.

    The Logan Act sounds like something that could put a lot of people away.
    The Logan Act is a violation of the first amendment, it's never been challenged in court, if it was it would be struck down by any judge.

    I've not changed my mind completely about "the list" but Flynn CERTAINLY seems to have been fired related to pizzagate...

    This is so gangster....(tweeted RIGHT after flynn's removal, Flynn JR was fired two months ago)
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    What I most want to know right now is who has the biggest clout, Clapper or Mathus?

    The answer to that question is probably the tip for how this is going to play out. The crooks are going to pull out every dirty trick toy they can before they surrender. I just don't know if they have the biggest dirtiest tricks or if the Pentagon has the last word with those kinds of things.
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    On the youtube page entitled The Men Who Knew Too Much About PizzaGate, there is this reply:
    Quote Gary Doherty3 days ago
    the russian ambassador who was killed, excuse me "died" today was pushing an investigation into child traficking in kosovo. this connects to dyncorp and the highest levels of cia and u.s. gov. dyncorp ceo is now trumps chief economic advisor. dont hold your breath on trump doing anything. see george webb's youtube videos
    And there are 55 replies to that comment as of now...

    Quote Posted by seleka (here)
    David Zublick talks about Flynn's resignation and Hillary's admitting PG is real on twitter. He talks about several people that have been investigating this and what has happened with them. This video connects some dots for sure.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5cdwReKyqCc

    According to the victorious liberatus channel voat has been compromised. I won't put the video here I just read too many videos can bog the loading down for some. Its just an FYI that voat is suspected to be compromised by admins. Oh I can put the link... https://youtu.be/ACEZoe1Mx2k

    Also for those that heard or saw the released video from worldcorpo of the child being abused, it has been lightened up so that it can be clearly seen. I will not put that link here because I did not follow it but you can likely find it with a search or on one of the channels that have been covering this.

    The new outer dark video puts together some pieces. https://youtu.be/oIkQauDJi-M There are clips from the 60 minutes pedophile episode, interviews with the survivor Theresa, referencing the vatican snake room and the chief constable saying Heath is guilty for sure....
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    I have noticed some odd things on Voat lately. I'll see a topic and then later go back to find it again and it's missing. Random posts go deleted more often now. Someone posted to the forum about Voat being compromised and that post was deleted too. I only was able to learn what it originally said by PM'ing someone there who had seen and responded to it.

    They have a group of bots or something that mass down-votes good topics too.

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    ALex Jones talks about why he decided to take away his youtubes dealing with the pizzagate story.

    In a nutshell:
    He smelled a rat and judged pizzagate to be probably a conspiracy theory that the Democrats picked up on to blow it up and use a diversion to real incriminating stories like "spirit cooking" and the involvement of the Clinton foundation and child trafficking and such.

    Not sure which is true, but AJ makes a good case and over the years I've come to respect AJ's intuition for spotting the truth.
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    I'm wondering if Flyn has left the inside team so he can work on Pedogate more freely and keep the admin team out of tricky legal issues.
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    Here's Johnny...

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    A comprehensive summary of "PedoGate" can be found in this article:

    Pizzagate turned PedoGate Leads to Momentum Surge in Busting Global Child Sex Trafficking Rings

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    Mon, 27 Feb 2017 01:00 UTC




    This article will examine the current status of the so called "Pizzagate" scandal. But from here on out this presentation will refer to it as PedoGate for several reasons. Pedogate involves global child sex trafficking networks that have been operating over a lengthy period of time, far beyond the WikiLeaks release of the John Podesta emails and his obsession over "pizza," and incriminating contents found on disgraced former New York congressman Anthony Weiner's laptop leading up to last November's election. PedoGate also extends far beyond the so called Comet Ping Pong pizza parlor in Northwest DC that was last year's epicenter of alleged child sex crime activity resulting from an intensive online investigation linking Comet to the Podesta brothers, the Clintons, Obama and George Soros. And though virtually every business on that entire DC block located so close to the White House may well be [or have been] involved in a major Washington child trafficking sex ring based on substantive circumstantial evidence uncovered, PedoGate addresses the growing global epidemicof children being abducted from their hometowns and moved across both state and international borders for the purpose of sexual exploitation as victims of pedophilia, pornography, Satanic ritual abuse and even sacrificial murder.

    With the internet age, 76% of pedophile sex with underage girls starts out as online contact. Of the estimated up to 800,000 victims of human trafficking each year, 76% are women and girls and 27% are children. When internally trafficked victims are included, the numbers jump to 2-4 million annually raped, beaten and tortured. Half of the worldwide trafficked humans within a country are children. In the global commercial sex trade, 2 million children are being exploited. Worldwide human trafficking has skyrocketed since 2012 with over 20.9 million victims.

    At $32 billion a year, profit from human trafficking has even surpassed the total global illegal arms sales. Up to 300,000 US children are lured annually into the commercial sex trade. Of those exploited children, 14,500 to 17,500 are trafficked into America from other countries. The average age is 11-14 and the average lifespan of child trafficking is only 7 years with death caused by attack, abuse, overdose, HIV/STD's, malnutrition and suicide. Clearly, sexually exploited children have reached the global crisis stage.

    Just prior to the election last year psychiatrist and longtime intelligence operative within the state department Steve Pieczenik has stated publicly that both Bill and Hillary Clinton are pedophiles having made multiple trips on their buddy sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express to his Caribbean sex slave island.

    Epstein is the most infamous case in recent years that links the Clintons, Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, Hillary's longtime aide. Multi-billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was investigated in 2005 in Florida, arrested in 2006 and convicted in 2008 of pedophilia, having to register as a sex offender after being convicted of having sex with underage girls. His mansion on his private Caribbean island, Little St. James in the Virgin Islands, has been the Lolita Express getaway destination for a number of high profile pedophiles who "partied," engaging in sex with child slaves. One victim said the mansion was wired with secret cameras in a number of rooms where recorded orgies and sex with minors are filmed for blackmailing purposes of powerful invited guests. In addition to the Clintons and Weiners, retired Harvard law professor and attorney Alan Dershowitz who represented Epstein and got him off with a sweetheart deal along with English royalty Prince Andrew and Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey are all known to have traveled on Epstein's private Boeing 727.

    Veteran CIA case officer and US Marine Corps intelligence officer Robert David Steele maintains that Epstein has been a Mossad agent who was set up as a "made" financier to work on behalf of Israel to entice numerous high profile politicians both from America and abroad to his island, equipped with electronic monitoring in order to get the dirt on the world's major power players for potential blackmail and subsequent control. Department store tycoon and ultra-Zionist Leslie Wexler took a young Epstein under his wing as his mentor, and suddenly Jeffrey Epstein went from prep school math teacher and college dropout to owning Wexler's Manhattan East Side mansion and managing billionaire hedge funds. Epstein also employed media mogul-Mossad spy Robert Maxwell's daughter Ghislaine Maxwell as his longtime girlfriend and closest assistant. As a Mossad agent Epstein was nearly overnight transformed mysteriously into a billionaire owning massive amounts of real estate properties in Palm Beach, NYC, his "Virgin" Island, New Mexico and a Paris apartment.

    By capturing on video file the world's political elite in compromising positions as pedophiles, such pro-Israel senators as John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Chuck Schumer are forever controllable and beholding to the Greater Israel Project, committed haters of Russia and Trump, and traitors of America. That way Congress and presidents are easily bought, sold and completely owned by the powers-that-shouldn't-be.

    [...]

    Full article: https://www.sott.net/article/343780-...fficking-Rings

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    The REAL REASON Why Podesta Joined the Washington Post
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    THE COMMON SENSE SHOW

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Looking after their own.....

    JOHN PODESTA HIRED BY WASHINGTON POST AS COLUMNIST:
    Podesta New Columnist at Washington Post.


    Published on 24 Feb 2017

    ====================================================
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    THE WASHINGTON POST.....

    WashPost PR Blog


    John Podesta joins The Washington Post as a contributing columnist

    By WashPost PR

    February 23

    The Washington Post today announced that John Podesta will join the Opinion
    section as a contributing columnist. Podesta, former chairman of the 2016 Hillary
    Clinton campaign, will provide commentary and analysis on the intersection of
    politics and policy, the Trump administration and the future of the Democratic Party.

    “No one knows more about how Washington works, how the White House operates,
    and how policy ideas are translated into reality than John Podesta,” said Editorial
    Page Editor Fred Hiatt. “His long experience in Congress, inside two Democratic
    White Houses and on the front lines of numerous presidential campaigns, will offer
    readers vital insight into Washington and politics at the start of a new era.”

    John Podesta served as Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and as a counselor to
    President Barack Obama. He is the founder and board member of the Center for
    American Progress, a liberal think tank in Washington, D.C. He is also a visiting
    professor of law at the Georgetown University Law Center

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    PIZZAGATE | NEW TUNNEL DISCOVERY. Connects At Least 4 Of Alefantis’s Properties
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    “As Above, So Below. As Within, So Without.”
    There are miles of old abandoned water tunnels directly under a lot of Alefantis’s properties of interest. The picture above is of workmen in one of the tunnels circa 1900s.
    First off there is a bit of background on the tunnels then there’s a map outlining all the properties of interest in relation to the tunnel network. I’ve also included examples of some of the tunnels discovered.


    The Washington Aqueduct

    The Washington Aqueduct, managed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, provides wholesale water treatment services to DC Water and its partners in Northern Virginia, Arlington County and Falls Church. – DC Water

    The Origin of Washington’s Water Supply ? Architect of the Capital

    Built in 1864 by Montgomery Meigs and the Army Corps of Engineers.
    The Washington Aqueduct forms the central node in DC’s water infrastructure.
    Water splits into a set of parallel conduits and is gravity fed 9 miles from Great Falls, Maryland to Dalecarlia Reservoir.

    Precast conduit segments for the Washington Aqueduct.

    Water continues under Reservoir Road near Georgetown Reservoir and Glover Archibald Park.
    The aqueduct crosses Rock Creek Valley inside the Pennsylvania Avenue Bridge structurally supported by two 48-inch (122cm) arching water pipes.


    The conduits then begin to branch out in a network of smaller and smaller pipes that eventually connect with individual houses.
    In total 12 miles of conduit, 11 tunnels, 6 bridges, pump stations, pipelines, and 2 reservoirs were built. – National Park Service
    Note that just before the aqueduct crosses Rock Creek it branches off left into Georgetown.

    1864
    A close up of the Washington Aqueduct tunnels in downtown Washington. Note they pass straight through the White House.
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    1865
    In the mid-1920’s a second conduit was added to increase the capacity of the system – National Park Service
    The conduit is the largest structure of the water system. It stretches almost 12 miles downriver from the intake at Great Falls to the Georgetown Reservoir. The circular tube, built of brick, stone and mortar, is 9 feet in diameter. It was constructed by tunneling and by deep rock cuts. A road was built parallel to the conduit to facilitate cleaning repairs and inspections. The road was originally named Conduit Road, today it is MacArthur Boulevard.


    1920s
    Route of the Washington Aqueduct conduit.


    The Washington Aqueduct
    This short documentary talks about only 1 conduit used at a time. We only see the conduit down as far as Georgetown Reservoir.


    Cities of the Underworld – Washington DC: Seat of Power
    This documentary give a good insight into the what the tunnels look like under DC.



    The Washington City (Lydecker) Tunnel

    The Washington (Lydecker) Tunnel, completed in 1901 by the Army Corps of Engineers, is up to 10 meters in diameter and runs 4 miles from Georgetown Reservoir to McMillain Reservoir. Shortly after in 1926 a second tunnel was dug beside it.


    The Lydecker Tunnel Fiasco | Architect of the Capital

    Within a decade the District’s population had increased by 75% and it was clear that a larger system was necessary.
    The Army Corps of Engineers’ proposed the McMillan reservoir NE Washington
    In 1882 Major Garret Lydecker started building a 4 mile long tunnel connecting the new McMillan Reservoir (east) with the existing Georgetown Reservoir (west).
    The project was marred in corruption. Eventually Lydecker received a court-martialed for his role in the fiasco and was banished to the Rocky Mountains.
    The Washington Post describes the reality: “A committee of experts went through the tunnel and found that instead of a solid lining, thousands and thousands of feet of the tunnel contained nothing more than a brick arch, with spaces between the sides and the top of the arch and the original rock large enough to drive a coach through.”
    The Army Corps of Engineers finished the tunnel by 1901
    This map shows the proposed route of the Washington Tunnel.

    1883
    This map shows the water distribution network for Washington DC. The Washington Tunnel is the red broken line running left across the map from McMillan Reservoir. The old Washington Aqueduct conduit is also shown in solid red lines.
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    1900
    A Brief History of Bloomingdale | Bloomingdale DC

    The Army Corps added the McMillan Park Reservoir and the Washington City Tunnel (10 meters in diameter and 4 miles long) between 1882 and 1902.

    Bryant Street pumping station Final Seminar Project | By Justin Kockritz

    A second tunnel paralleling the original was completed in 1926 which allowed the Lydecker Tunnel to be periodically closed for routine maintenance without noticeably interrupting water service.

    Configuration of the Bedrock Surface of the District of Columbia and Vicinity | usgs.gov
    The diagram below shows a cross section of the tunnel. There are several vertical air shafts.

    download PDF:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170226...217/report.pdf



    In the Widows Mite air shaft just north of Wyoming Avenue, near the line of Twenty-second Street, the official section shows a capping of “clay and sand 30 feet thick” underlain by 35 feet of “clay,” but this is undoubtedly a mistake, as the gneiss has been revealed by many cellars in this vicinity under only a few feet of terrace gravel and sand. In the air shaft on the highest part of the ridge near the corner of Sand Thirty-fifth Streets the blueprint of the tunnel section shows 42 feet of “clay” lying on “soft rock” at a depth of 158.7 feet, but in fact the rotted bedrock out-cropping extensively in that area is overlain by very thin remnants of terrace gravel at 195 feet above sea level. Probably the clay referred to is mostly rctten rock.
     
    Merging the two maps produced this.



    Properties of Interest

    download:
    https://s14.postimg.org/t07yceenz/Khhzdd.jpg

    1. Alefantis
    3334 N St NW, Washington, DC 20007

    2. Alefantis (Metro Interiors)
    2605 P St, NW, Washington, DC 20007
    Current business: Midtown Cleaners, Dry Cleaner / Press Associates Inc, Newspaper Publisher

    3. Alefantis
    1526 Wisconsin Ave, Nw, Washington, DC 20007
    Current business: Little Birdies, children clothes shop. www.shoplittlebirdies.com

    4. Alefantis
    1531 33rd St, NW, Washington DC
    Business: The Strand at Voltra

    5. Alefantis
    1536 Swann St, NW, Washington DC, 20009

    6. Alefantis
    2022 Columbia Rd, NW, Washington DC, 20009

    7. Alefantis/Brock
    2310 California St, NW, Washington DC, 20008

    8. Alefantis
    455 Massachusetts Ave, NW, Washington DC, 20001

    9. Alefantis
    3516 Rear, 11th St NW, Washington, DC 20010

    10. Alefantis
    Transformer Gallery, 1404 P St, NW, Washington, DC 20005

    11. Clinton
    3067 Whitehaven St, NW, Washington DC, 20008

    12. Podesta
    2438 Belmont Rd, NW, Washington DC, 20008


    The Washington (Lydecker) Tunnel – Air Shafts

    These are approximated positions based on the maps.
    A. S St & 35 St
    3509 S St, NW, Washington, DC 20007
    B. Widows mite Shaft
    2215 Wyoming Ave, NW, Washington, DC 20008
    C. Champain avenue Shaft
    Champlain St, NW, Washington DC, 20009
    D. 13th street shaft. 200ft North of Florida Avenue
    1300 Belmont St, NW, Washington DC, 20009

    Harrison G. Dyar (Mole Man) 1900 – 1916
    I’ve included Harrison Dyar to show some example of the tunnels in central Washingtpn DC. This is a tunnel we know about on P Street, NW. This tunnel is highlighted in green on the map above.


    Smithsonian Bug Expert By Day; Eccentric Tunnel Digger By Night | Architect of the Capital




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    804 B St Independence Avenue

    2 newspapers refer to 2 different addresses below:

    1 – 1510 P 21st Street – Greater greater Washington
    2 – 1512 P 21st St – Washington Post
    In the articles they talk about these various locations:
    05/1917
    2115 P St, NW
    Workmen found a tunnel on P Street when digging foundations for Pelham Courts Luxury Appartment block Now Hotel Palomar
    Pelham Courts Apartment block/Hotel Palomar 2121 P St, NW
    while working on the foundation for the luxurious Pelham Courts apartments in Dupont Circle, workers made an unusual discovery: “Workmen find tunnel The passage is more than 100 feet long. (Washington Post, 5/19/1917)”
    So do the tunnels themselves, which fan out as far as 200 feet behind his old Dupont Circle home, though they’re now sealed with concrete.
    The Pelham Courts of Dupont Circle are long gone, and the property now houses the Hotel Palomar. Reference
    09/1924
    Tunnel appeared Behind Pelham Courts
    “Washington was alive with stories of mystery, intrigue, romance, and adventure.” (Post, 3/4/1942)
    While driving behind Pelham Courts in mid-September of 1924, a truck’s tires sank into the ground, revealing the entrance to a hidden underground shaft. Reference
     
    Summary
    I conclude from my research there are many tunnels under Washington DC. The ones outlined above are ones we know about. Some are as old as 1850s. As demand for water increased they built new tunnels and laid new pipes. The older tunnels being left to decay.
    Interestingly here are 4 properties that sit directly on top of the old aqueduct tunnels. Most of the properties in Washington sit above some form of a tunnel or another but it seemed quite a coincidence that the only map I could find of the aqueduct system of tunnels was from 1900s and Alefanis etc have properties either very close or right on top of them. The articles point out the tunnels aren’t that far from the surface so digging down from any building wouldn’t be a great challenge. You would just need to know where to dig.


    Source:
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/...ss-properties/

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    See also:
    Secret Underground Tunnel Network Linking Pizzagate Properties Discovered

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    Am I the only one already disturbed by this image alone?




    The connection to the Smithsonian should be investigated too. There is something up with the Smithsonian and there has been for a long time, since the late 1800's.

    The guy who founded the Cosmos Club (to which Max Maccoby, lawyer of David Brock and James Alefantis, belongs) was head of the Smithsonian during a massive restructuring in the late 1800's. Three US presidents, Henry Kissinger and a bunch of other big names have been members of it and it's a very secretive club. I suspect it's represented a very corrosive influence ever since its inception, and the Smithsonian since that time as well.

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    I`ve been thinking this pizza/pedogate a lot recently and I think this has a potential to have huge influence. Although this pedophilia in the high up isn`t a new thing for alt media followers, this time it`s different. What we have now is overwhelming circumstantial evidence of these crimes. Emails, pictures, associations. You name it. The more you look the more you find. Even a person with a half a braincell knows something is going on after researching this for 10 minutes.

    We know we hit the nerve when there is a massive propaganda campain in the US media (finnish media is totally silent on this) and massive internet censorship.

    We need to keep the momentum up on this. When you got the pedo network by the balls, you squeeze harder.

    Pizzagate is important also because this can really wake up the good guys in key positions. I hope we get even more leaks to really expose this. Also pizzagate will serve as a good entrypoint for people newly awaken to these dark realities we`re dealing. It ties together many things and makes those other stories of satanic ritual abuse and such to a new perspective. Now it`s not only a story. Now we have visual evidence with it.

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    This might Sound harsh:
    It is one of the most important Things for them. They harnest/get fresh/innocent energy this way. It´s one of their most important sources for energy, they have no Connection to source, they have to get their energy elsewhere. They use a lot of this energy to Keep their Masks up and the Matrix running. If their Access to innocent children is interrupted, they will run out of power quite fast. Without energy everyone will see them for what they really are. "Bloody Vampires".

    They could also torture adults, but that just gives them just a little bit of "energy", it´s like getting a litte zap compared to an innocent Soul that gives them a whole new battery. They also get energy through fear and conflict/war. But on a personal level there is nothing like pedophelia for them. Makes sense that they sacrifice children for Moloch. Ever wondered why in old tales its always a virgin that gets sacrificed for the gods, the "energy" is stong with this one. Also seen in the sacrificing of a Baby to the big Owl in Bohemian Grove. They where questioned about that and they said, it´s just fake blood and not a real Baby. Yeah sure, we believe you....
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    Experts find mass grave at ex-Catholic orphanage in Ireland
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    DUBLIN (AP) — A mass grave containing the remains of babies and young children has been discovered at a former Catholic orphanage in Ireland, government-appointed investigators announced Friday in a finding that offered the first conclusive proof following a historian's efforts to trace the fates of nearly 800 children who perished there.

    The judge-led Mother and Baby Homes Commission said excavations since November at the site of the former Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, County Galway, had found an underground structure divided into 20 chambers containing "significant quantities of human remains."

    The commission said DNA analysis of selected remains confirmed the ages of the dead ranged from 35 weeks to 3 years old and were buried chiefly in the 1950s, when the overcrowded facility was one of more than a dozen in Ireland offering shelter to orphans, unwed mothers and their children. The Tuam home closed in 1961.

    Friday's findings provided the first proof after decades of suspicions that the vast majority of children who died at the home had been interred on the site in unmarked graves. That was a common, but ill-documented practice at such Catholic-run facilities amid high child mortality rates in early 20th century Ireland.

    The government in 2014 formed the investigation after a local Tuam historian, Catherine Corless, tracked down death certificates for nearly 800 children who had died as residents of the facility — but could find a burial record for only one child.

    "Everything pointed to this area being a mass grave," said Corless, who recalled how local boys playing in the field had reported seeing a pile of bones in a hidden underground chamber there in the mid-1970s.

    The government's commissioner for children, Katherine Zappone, said Friday's findings were "sad and disturbing." She pledged that the children's descendants would be consulted on providing proper burials and other memorials.

    "We will honor their memory and make sure that we take the right actions now to treat their remains appropriately," Zappone said.

    The report found that the dead children may have been placed in underground chambers originally used to hold sewage. Corless said she found records stating that the sewage systems were used until 1937, when the home was connected to a modern water supply.

    A decommissioned septic tank had been "filled with rubble and debris and then covered with top soil" and did not appear to contain remains, the report said. But excavators found children's remains inside a neighboring connected structure that may have been used to contain sewage or waste water.

    The commission's finding that most of the remains date to the 1950s corroborates Corless' collection of death certificates. It also dispels a popular argument that bones seen at the site might predate the orphanage's opening, when the building was a workhouse for the adult poor, or even be from people who died in the mid-19th century Great Famine.

    Labour Party lawmaker Joan Burton said the Tuam orphanage's dead may have been interred "without normal funeral rights, and maybe even without their wider families having been made aware." She called on the Catholic Church to provide more assistance to investigators.

    The investigators, who are examining the treatment of children at a long-closed network of 14 Mother and Baby Homes, said they still were trying to identify "who was responsible for the disposal of human remains in this way."

    The Bon Secours Sisters order of nuns, which ran the home until its closure, said in a statement that all its records, including of potential burials, had been handed to state authorities in 1961. It pledged to cooperate with the continuing investigation.

    Corless criticized the Bon Secours response as "the usual maddening nonsense. They must apologize and take responsibility for what happened there."

    She called on the nuns to promise explicitly to help the state organize proper marked burial places for every dead child once each set of remains could be identified.

    "That's the least that can be done for them at this late stage," she said.

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    what the hell does that mean???

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
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    what the hell does that mean???


    pedo symbol for girl love at: 2:22, 2:30, 2:38


    I can't help but like the melody, but the clip and text are disturbing.

    Not hard to imagine the song going about the overpowering pedo infesting the world of imagination of the child is it?
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