The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[Jake]

Didnt read the thread did you? Lol!! Throwing around baseless opinions arent you? Yawn...

Love to you, though...

Jake

[TheChosen]

Posted by Jake (here)
Didnt read the thread did you? Lol!! Throwing around baseless opinions arent you? Yawn...

Love to you, though...

Jake

Yet another assumption ... I DID read the whole thread. Some posts I read twice.

[Jake]

You read the entire thread, some of it twice and you took away that we judged him because of some keychains?

???

Fair enough! Lol...

Im considering rewriting it in crayon!

Jake

[TheChosen]

No .. that is your interpretation of what I wrote.. The keychains & coffee mugs were only the icing on the top. I am not going to repeat what qbeac already wrote several times.

[Matthew]

I'm very dubious here's why

We have the blue avians telling us we need to sort our own problems out, which they will do for us all except the last bit we can just about do ourselves. We can do it ourselves except we need them. Not very empowering. Then they're shielding us from cosmic waves because we're not strong enough to take it but we could, but we need their protection. Saying one thing, but leaving me with the linguring impresion of the opposite.

Blue avians say we will get FULL DISCLOSURE. As a big data dump in one go. The start and end of all the disclosure. The implication is we stop searching for the truth because we have it all now.

But this is the bit that got me: why does the sphere being alliance (SBA) logo remind me of the UN flag? I don't trust the UN on the whole

I'm not cynical about the people, Corey and David. I wonder if they are being exploited. But I am dubious about a few things that I've shared because I am open minded and here is my mind. The one certainty I have is I don't know.

Peace and love

[Jake]

The chosen,,

You said we have a long long way to go if we judge others on their selling of coffee mugs and keychains. An ASSUMPTION, and insinuation of blatent caddy childishness.. Just before that, you characterized every contribution to this thread as "hurt egos", "wild assumption" etc...

If your intention was to add some sort of intelligent input, then i apologize for missing it...

Your opinion in duly noted, thank you...

I take a bit of offense for your ASSUMPTION that i have a closed mind.

If a big Bull took a crap on my floor,,, i would NOT tolerate it,, AT ALL. Id clean it up, and prevent it from ever happening again! It does NOT make me closed minded just because i dont tolerate Bull Crap!!!

Sorry for the obtuse analogy...

Jake

[Sierra]

Posted by TheChosen (here)
No .. that is your interpretation of what I wrote.. The keychains & coffee mugs were only the icing on the top. I am not going to repeat what qbeac already wrote several times.

Oh yes, thank you very much, qbeac repeats himself quite enough already. He repeats himself so many times hoping the response from the members will be different the umpteenth time around.

Kind of like how the Republican politicians and commentators on TV repeat the exact same phrase across all conservative television shows across the nation... (and then Jon Stewart strings the exact quote video blurbs together making fun of them lol.)

[Valley]

I've been watching/listening to all of the Goode videos/audio for past few months.... and my general view so far is that he appears to be honestly relaying his personal experiences. He has been releasing so much detailed info that it seems very unlikely that he could make this all up and I haven't found any clear contradictions yet. Also, much of it makes a lot of sense to me by adding many new details to hidden/suppressed histories I've learned little bits of over the years.

I can also understand why many have rejected his 'stories' altogether based on some of his seemingly 'childlike'/reactive behaviour in earlier exchanges here on the forum. I think he was just being human, with his own 'character flaws', like anyone else. It makes sense to me that he would get upset with folks who thought he was 'full of it', when he first started bringing his story out here... because he was taking a big risk coming forward (if his story is true).

So overall, it all makes 'good' sense to me... his 'stories', and all of yours. His is such a fantastical sounding story, it's understandable that hardly anyone would accept it at first... but with every new update/video he does, he adds more details and fills in more gaps... which is painting a more complete picture, and adds more and more credibility to his story, I think. I'm not saying that I blindly believe it all 100%, but I'm leaning towards a higher than 50% possibility that he is a genuine whistleblower... based on my own observations, research, intuition, and logical deductions.

[Jake]

I can respect that! It is all a good lesson... my problem is that i actually knew the guy... He basically told md "feck off" and "watch what i can do!"

I remember when he was telling stories about helping the alien beings who brought us all into the world from the astral!! Does anyone remember that load? Nobody? Surprise surprise...

Yawn....

Love to you.
Jake

[Valley]

That's interesting Jake... Many times I've seen that those closer to someone are 'hit the hardest' by the other's 'flaws'. I can understand your position/feelings.

If he's right about all his trainings and how he has said that he was being told repeatedly that he was 'special' by his 'handlers', that he likely started believing it himself... causing a major 'character flaw' that would account for a lot of his callousness in early exchanges here. I'm not in any way trying to excuse his actions, but it does fit in with his story in my mind. I've also heard him speak about his poor behaviors here, in interviews... and he admitted that he was 'out of line' and that he had to 'grow up'.

I wasn't around much back when the Goode turbulence was happening here and I hadn't seen the astral references you mentioned... Do you have a link where I can see about that in particular?

Blessings Bro...

[Jake]

it started here,, then went into PMs that were sworn to secrecy!

Several members were involved... But only if we swore to keep quiet... Only a footnote now... but, yes,,,, his first contact story was much different than his latest.. And it keeps changing! When he left, he went on a six month 7 days a week streak of attacks and lies,, all of which have been taken down now.. The new reader is completely ignorant, by design! This joker became obsessed with lying and attacking Bill and me and the mods and Avalon! Much more than a character flaw... A TACTIC... one that requires ignorance of the truth! The WHOLE time, playing as if he were the victim!

It is embarrassing to me that folks who have absolutey no idea what happened tend to insist to me that they do!

We here at Avalon, Bill, the Mods, the Administration, etc,,, take our vows of integrity to the truth quite seriously. If i tell someone that i will keep a secret, then i keep it... I lament the day i told Corey id keep what he said private! Its killing me!

Ive learned more than i ever wanted about how being a trustworthy, supportive person can bite me in my arrse! I fell for the 'Brother Bear' tactic, then watched my friend walk away shaking his head and laughing!

"Fine then, Jake! Watch this, watch what i can do."

And i have been,, and it hurts!

Jake

[Tangri]

If I gave my word to a person not to tell his story out and find out he was a child predator and confessing his past sin, his future plans to continue more evils intends make me a conspirator, at the outcome, Then, all my prior stance will change to a new one.

[Jake]

If being trustworthy, supportive, honest, etc,,, are my character flaws, ill take it!

Jake

[Mike]

Posted by Jake (here)
If being trustworthy, supportive, honest, etc,,, are my character flaws, ill take it!

Jake

You're a good man, Jake. I'd trust you with my bank account number.

but if I may be so bold...

If withholding info hurts more people than it helps, then perhaps it is not a noble thing.

I've not told you anything you don't already know, but it doesnt stop me from saying it.

I'd never dream of telling you what to do, but thats my take...for what it's worth. You'd lose no honor in my eyes by exposing this guy even further..regardless of oaths of secrecy.

Either way, you have my total respect bud.

[Valley]

Thanks for the 'lead'. Yeah, looks/sounds like it got pretty ugly there. It appears that once that emotional 'snowball' started rolling, it really got out of control. Do you think that slandering 'captain & crew' was the plan all along before joining the forum?

I feel like I'm walking around in a 'minefield of emotions' here... and I don't want to set anyone off, so I'm just going to meditate on all this some before I say much more. Please disregard any of my questions if you don't want to think about any of that.

Peace...

Posted by Jake (here)
it started here,, then went into PMs that were sworn to secrecy!

Several members were involved... But only if we swore to keep quiet... Only a footnote now... but, yes,,,, his first contact story was much different than his latest.. And it keeps changing! When he left, he went on a six month 7 days a week streak of attacks and lies,, all of which have been taken down now.. The new reader is completely ignorant, by design! This joker became obsessed with lying and attacking Bill and me and the mods and Avalon! Much more than a character flaw... A TACTIC... one that requires ignorance of the truth! The WHOLE time, playing as if he were the victim!

It is embarrassing to me that folks who have absolutey no idea what happened tend to insist to me that they do!

We here at Avalon, Bill, the Mods, the Administration, etc,,, take our vows of integrity to the truth quite seriously. If i tell someone that i will keep a secret, then i keep it... I lament the day i told Corey id keep what he said private! Its killing me!

Ive learned more than i ever wanted about how being a trustworthy, supportive person can bite me in my arrse! I fell for the 'Brother Bear' tactic, then watched my friend walk away shaking his head and laughing!

"Fine then, Jake! Watch this, watch what i can do."

And i have been,, and it hurts!

Jake

[Carmody]

like the huge crowd fight in "blazing saddles", it can be a good thing, if it breaks down walls and is transported to other locations.

That good things can come from bad.



File this under 'I don't care what they say about me, as long as they say about me'. Note that Corey, space law, space mining and the secret space program go mainstream, to some extent. That the reaction is not overwhelmingly negative.

And in going mainstream, it sparks the open discussion. The process must begin, somehow... and it's a case of "whatever it takes, just make it happen".

Once that discussion breaks into public view, things like Corey will be a long forgotten bit.... like the first person stumbling through a wall, when thousands follow....(read the article and then the comments):

Http://phys.org/news/2015-12-space-l...tary-gold.html

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Seeking Senior]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.

Thanks for your care — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol).

Isn’t the above the crux of the matter regarding the charge that Corey Goode is an unreliable source?

[Innocent Warrior]

Posted by Seeking Senior (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.

Thanks for your care — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol).

Isn’t the above the crux of the matter regarding the charge that Corey Goode is an unreliable source?

Considering you've clearly already made up your mind about Corey and you aren't interested in debating the issue, what exactly do you expect to accomplish from this post?

[Seeking Senior]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
Considering you've clearly already made up your mind about Corey and you aren't interested in debating the issue, what exactly do you expect to accomplish from this post?

I am backing up what I have stated regarding Bill Ryan's apparent personal issue regarding Corey Goode, as opposed to the veracity of Corey's witness statements as a participant in the secret space program.