David Paulides' research: over 2000 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

[Shannon]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

• Had he lost or gained any weight?
• Was his hair much longer?
• Had he grown any facial hair (beard, mustache) in the 15 months missing?

In 2001, Amy Rylance was abducted by aliens and according to her housemate Petra Hella, an eyewitness, she went floating through the window carried on a beam of light. Approximately ninety minutes after Petra witnessed the supposed abduction, Amy was found disorientated and covered in mud some 790 kms (490 miles) away.

Ms Rylance said that she had been abducted for days and when Mackay hospital staff examined her they found that she hadn't eaten for days, and her usually shaved bodily hair had grown considerably.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpCn4bVer88

Man alive that cop (or sheriff ), was a total jerk off. He couldn't hold back his pretentious almost giddy laughter.

[Atlas]

And this happened in Cuba:

The story told by a man in the Pasaje a lo Desconocido television program. He claimed that he was captured at his dwelling place in the center of the island; adding that after a few minutes aboard a spacecraft, he was abandoned in the City of Havana, unhurt. (source)
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On Sunday, October 15, 1995 at 9:00 a.m. near the town of Torriente, Province of Matanzas, a 74-year-old farmer named Adolfo Zarate witnessed the descent of an object no larger than a small car, with a cabin, on the premises of his farm. The object remained on the ground for several minutes, and a being of humanoid appearance, dressed in an outfit similar to camouflage and wearing a facemask, emerged from the device, took soil or grass samples, and after an explosion “like air”, took off and headed south, leaving a wake of blue fire. Police confirmed the flattening of grass at the location, suggesting a descent. Members of the Ministry of the Interior investigated the case, but no conclusion was issued after a while.



In October of 1995, the Sunday newspaper Juventud Rebelde published an article about this case. The article stated, " Perhaps, Adolfo's biggest fear was that what happened to his cousin Ricardo Zarate, would happen to him. His cousin disappeared two years earlier, in 1993, after leaving his house early in the morning to work in a farm. The search for Ricardo lasted more than a month, until the case was closed. Until this day, his disappearance is still unexplained.

Perhaps because of that reason, the rain, the loneliness of that Sunday, and most certainly, because of the strange looking sphere that was descending from the sky and landed only 60 meters away from him, Adolfo decided to hide among the corn crops. He could have gotten closer to the object, but the fear of being abducted and never returned like his cousin prevented him from doing so. According to him, the machine stood still after landing. Moments later, an individual that appeared to be wearing a gas mask and camouflaged clothes came out of it. The ship also had a type of camouflage because it resembled the same colors as the crops. As it started to rain even harder, the individual walked around the ship and later leaned on the door to talk to yet another one inside the cockpit. He appeared to be picking up plants from the field. Later, he climbed up the stairs and the machine emitted a bright blue light. Adolfo felt a tremendous air pressure as the ship left.

The newspaper Juventud Rebelde also published Adolfo's own words. He stated, "It was the same size of an amusement ride found at the fair grounds. I could not tell what it was made of. It did not have wings, propellers nor it made any noise. It had an oval shape. It landed on two legs that appeared to have some type of air shocks. It also appeared to have very small wheels because it left wheel tracks behind. I could not see the individual's face but he appeared to be an ordinary human being. The individual did not appear to be carrying any weapons".

Cuban ufologist Orestes Girbau Collado stated, "something did land in that area and I'm almost 100% sure that it wasn't from our planet. [...] The ship was not from our origin; it came either from a different dimension, time or planet, but I don't know exactly.

Zarate is a person with very little imagination; he did not know anything about UFOs. In fact, he knew about them as much as I know about old Hebrew languages, which I know nothing about. Furthermore, I think he was fearful of talking about it. He probably thought that it was some kind of espionage operation and he did not want to be subject to intense questionings.

I also think that Zarate was very lucky because if it weren't for the corn crops near by, he would not have had the chance to hide. If he would have been walking along the open field - if I can speculate a bit-, he would have been gone just like his cousin who disappeared two years earlier during the same date, the same crop field, at around the same time. This sounds incredible but is true." (source)

[Ewan]

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

• Had he lost or gained any weight?
• Was his hair much longer?
• Had he grown any facial hair (beard, mustache) in the 15 months missing?

In 2001, Amy Rylance was abducted by aliens and according to her housemate Petra Hella, an eyewitness, she went floating through the window carried on a beam of light. Approximately ninety minutes after Petra witnessed the supposed abduction, Amy was found disorientated and covered in mud some 790 kms (490 miles) away.

Ms Rylance said that she had been abducted for days and when Mackay hospital staff examined her they found that she hadn't eaten for days, and her usually shaved bodily hair had grown considerably.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpCn4bVer88

Man alive that cop (or sheriff ), was a total jerk off. He couldn't hold back his pretentious almost giddy laughter.

Total a-hole, but I think the interviewer could not keep a straight face either and may have been triggering him.

The mark on her leg was enough to convince me it was genuine, it was a familiar pattern photographed many time with various abductees.

Ms Rylance said that she had been abducted for days and when Mackay hospital staff examined her they found that she hadn't eaten for days, and her usually shaved bodily hair had grown considerably.

That quote was particulalry important to me and I searched further. http://www.ufocasebook.com/gundiahmackay.html

It 'proves', in so far as proof is accepted, that her abductors can move through time. They left our time frame and did their examinations/whatever, they brought her back within a few hours of taking her.

I'll never quite understand the odd drop-off places, unless perhaps they use an entirely different reference system and according to that, a few days of solar system spin relative to some unknown (to me) point, it was the same place. Far-fetched?

Interesting to note she did not think it was a particularly negative encounter.

[Atlas]

Posted by Ewan (here)
I'll never quite understand the odd drop-off places, unless perhaps they use an entirely different reference system [...]

From the link you posted (http://www.ufocasebook.com/gundiahmackay.html), it was reported that "The guy told her they were returning her to a place not far from where they took her from, because the lights were wrong at the property and it wasn't safe." (sic)

[Ewan]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by Ewan (here)
I'll never quite understand the odd drop-off places, unless perhaps they use an entirely different reference system [...]

From the link you posted (http://www.ufocasebook.com/gundiahmackay.html), it was reported that "The guy told her they were returning her to a place not far from where they took her from, because the lights were wrong at the property and it wasn't safe." (sic)

Yeah, I noticed that but it still didn't seem right somehow. They seem to know all about us and yet at the same time know little. Dumping someone in the bush a few miles from a highway is not a very charitable thing to do, potentially dangerous. In this case the abductee was apparently dehydrated which implies they didn't really think to take care of her very much whilst they had her. Perhaps her feeling that it wasn't a negative encounter was 'given' to her as an overlay.

There always seems to be discrepancies that just don't fit well together, maybe by design.

[Atlas]

If you watch this video posted by Maria Stade @15:44, you find a perfect match in Russia: the russian guy was watching TV when a beam of light levitated him out of his house, exactly the same as in the case of Amy Rylance. These 'aliens' can't hide any longer, we know of their standard operating procedures now.

[Spellbound]

Posted by Atlas (here)
The link is this one: http://www.livescience.com/39785-big...tings-gis.html from this thread: projectavalon.net/A Map of Bigfoot Sightings/Distribution

The bigfoot map is here: http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cd...b7482cc497.png

Posted by mgray (here)
If you take the map above and mentally lay it over David Paulides cluster map of disappearances there is a high corollary between the two.

Here is what you get:

Although I still think these disappearances are by inter-dimensionals and not Bigfoot (for the most part).....I must admit this is quite stunning.

Dave - Toronto

[mgray]

Here is a Joe Rogan podcast where he is speaking with Jeff B. Evans, who is an adventurer, expedition leader, high-altitude medic, physician assistant.

Evans has pulled people off of Denali and Everest. At the 20:00 mark he is speaking about hypothermia and how the last stage is euphoria where people strip off their clothes just before dying.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FYMXjYRDAjc

[mgray]

Posted by mgray (here)
Here is a Joe Rogan podcast where he is speaking with Jeff B. Evans, who is an adventurer, expedition leader, high-altitude medic, physician assistant.

Evans has pulled people off of Denali and Everest. At the 20:00 mark he is speaking about hypothermia and how the last stage is euphoria where people strip off their clothes just before dying.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FYMXjYRDAjc

bumping this video

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mgray (here)
Here is a Joe Rogan podcast where he is speaking with Jeff B. Evans, who is an adventurer, expedition leader, high-altitude medic, physician assistant.

Evans has pulled people off of Denali and Everest. At the 20:00 mark he is speaking about hypothermia and how the last stage is euphoria where people strip off their clothes just before dying.

Very many thanks... that's very interesting. I'm downloading the whole video.

As many here know, I'm an experienced climber, at high altitudes, too, and in all my years I've not been aware of this phenomenon of hypothermic climbers taking their clothes off. I'm trained in mountain rescue, and I'd never even heard of it.

Assuming that happens sometimes (and these guys are authentically experienced, for sure), I do find it hard to believe it's commonplace.

But here's one [different, also interesting] reference, and there are some others:

• http://livescience.com/41730-hypothe...ndressing.html

As Richard Dolan says (with a smile): "You don't have to admit you're wrong. Just say 'I've revised my opinion'."

[Carmody]

Now add in the google earth kmz file for the vortex maps, the energy grid and geometric shape overlay for the resonance of the sphere of energy that surrounds and permeates the earth - the dimensional energy flow and crossing maps.

http://www.vortexmaps.com/hagens-grid-google.php

then the gravity and magnetic anomaly maps

http://topex.ucsd.edu/grav_outreach/

http://bgi.omp.obs-mip.fr/activities...ravity_map_wgm

http://geomag.org/models/wdmam.html

You will have to track some of the maps down, and getting the abduction list into a a kmz file may be an issue, but as a refining and defining research tool, to sharpen understanding of what is or may be going on, it might just be unequaled.

It's all out there. This can be up and running inside of a few days. I've outlined it before, right here on this forum.

Possibly why I'm probably one of the few who cannot edit their images or get at them at all, on this forum. My image capacities and what images I've added to this forum, are, for some reason..a really big mess.

I'm still locked out of my image addition and manipulation on this forum.

Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid but the data I was providing was producing some interesting directions and confirming some potentials. Big time.

Also correlation to underground bases, entity sightings, waterspouts, all kinds of phenomena, temporal, dimensional, energy beings, ghost like sightings, and so on. Dimensional and energetic patterning, all being systematically laid out in a base research data set.

It was starting to take shape, and gain in definition and thus predictability and thus theory and hypothesis. the kind everyone can follow as an evidential trail.. I covered this subject of these abductions, near the end of it and it fit quite well. The posts are on the forum here.

That is when my imaging capacity for this forum failed/broke.

Those images are key to getting the data across to people, so they understand.

I don't use my own imaging service as I don't leave anything that allows casual research into my person.

[Flash]

I am locked out too and have been for a few years, yet, I posted almost none (no images) - i have no idea what I could have posted that could have been controversial (for PTB). In fact, I consider myself pretty lame as a poster.

Posted by Carmody (here)
Now add in the google earth kmz file for the vortex maps, the energy grid and geometric shape overlay for the resonance of the sphere of energy that surrounds and permeates the earth - the dimensional energy flow and crossing maps.

http://www.vortexmaps.com/hagens-grid-google.php

then the gravity and magnetic anomaly maps

http://topex.ucsd.edu/grav_outreach/

http://bgi.omp.obs-mip.fr/activities...ravity_map_wgm

http://geomag.org/models/wdmam.html

You will have to track some of the maps down, and getting the abduction list into a a kmz file may be an issue, but as a refining and defining research tool, to sharpen understanding of what is or may be going on, it might just be unequaled.

It's all out there. This can be up and running inside of a few days. I've outlined it before, right here on this forum.

Possibly why I'm probably one of the few who cannot edit their images or get at them at all, on this forum. My image capacities and what images I've added to this forum, are, for some reason..a really big mess.

I'm still locked out of my image addition and manipulation on this forum.

Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid but the data I was providing was producing some interesting directions and confirming some potentials. Big time.

Also correlation to underground bases, entity sightings, waterspouts, all kinds of phenomena, temporal, dimensional, energy beings, ghost like sightings, and so on. Dimensional and energetic patterning, all being systematically laid out in a base research data set.

It was starting to take shape, and gain in definition and thus predictability and thus theory and hypothesis. the kind everyone can follow as an evidential trail.. I covered this subject of these abductions, near the end of it and it fit quite well. The posts are on the forum here.

That is when my imaging capacity for this forum failed/broke.

Those images are key to getting the data across to people, so they understand.

I don't use my own imaging service as I don't leave anything that allows casual research into my person.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
That is when my imaging capacity for this forum failed/broke.

Posted by Flash (here)
I am locked out too and have been for a few years, yet, I posted almost none (no images)

From what I can tell, Carmody bumped into the normal per-user limit for attachment disk space. For any active forum user who is making reasonable use of that attachment space, and who is bumping into the limit, I bump the space to a larger number, about 7 times larger. But I still keep the normal limit in place for most members, to avoid having some member (whether accidentally or intentionally) bring the forum down by consuming all the space on the server some night while I'm sleeping.

So I bumped Carmody's limit to the 7 times larger value.

I bumped Flash's attachment space limit too, even though she's no where close to the normal limit. I don't know what's impeding Flash's ability to upload attachments. Perhaps you will be able to upload more attachments now, Flash ... perhaps not ... depending on what's causing the problem.

(Actually, a hint of things to come very soon, I expect that I'll give every member a bump to 2 times as much allowed disk space for attachments, as a minor consequence of a major server upgrade that I've been working on for the last month. More details to come soon.)

[skogvokter]

The documentary is out

Trailer: http://www.missing-411.com/



amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Missing-411-G...+411+the+movie


http://www.canammissing.com/missing-411--the-movie.html

[Spellbound]

I downloaded the new Missing 411 movie and started watching it last night....just finished it now. The torrent is here: https://idope.se/torrent/missing%204...a968e1fd906f9/


A few points of my own here:

- First and foremost, the cinematography of this film is top notch. All the wooded areas, topographical shots, etc....it honestly looked liked a big budget nature film. I was very impressed in this regard.

- The case of little Deorr Kunz Jr.....2 year old toddler who disappeared while camping with his mother, father, grandfather, and grandfather's friend...this was showcased throughout the entire movie. For me, I don't think this was the right case for the movie simply because, imo, there are a few things that are off here...and don't truly represent what Missing 411 is about. The parents refused offers from various news agencies (CNN and others) to do stories on this case and bring it out into the public eye. The grandfather was slightly unstable, and the friend had prior convictions. Also, when the mother called into 911 to report the disappearance, she didn't (imo) sound overly concerned (I would have expected her to be hysterical but it was far from it). The private investigator who the parents hired later quit by sending a letter telling them that he didn't trust them and that he himself felt something was off here. Deorr may well have disappeared in typical Missing 411 fashion, but I think there could have been far better cases to showcase here in a major movie.

- They seem to focus mainly on children disappearing in national parks. Only in the last 5 minutes of the movie (over the course of 30 seconds) do they elude to the fact that this is happening to people of all ages and not just in overly rural areas....but urban areas as well...and it is worldwide.

- David Paulides is seen very briefly at the beginning (a few seconds)...and is not shown again. His audio clips are put in throughout in small doses.

- They don't really mention the main attributes of Missing 411 in any fashion. Nothing about bodies usually found in water face up, very little about severe changes in weather after a disappearance (it was mentioned in passing very briefly), sometimes gov't agencies are seen at areas shortly after people disappeared but are not there on behalf of the victims family...and many other attributes that we hear about in a David Paulides interview on C2C.

- Nice to see Les Stroud make an appearance.

Overall, I did enjoy this movie (I had been looking forward to it). However, I we left wanting more...more of the usual Missing 411 attributes. I would have preferred cases that really make you scratch your head (like hunters that disappear in areas that they know like the back of their hand....or urban disappearances (ie-Henry McCabe and the strange voicemail....or Elisa Lam). There were no theories offered up in this movie (not that I expected any). I still believe that a majority of the Missing 411 cases are the result of interdimensional beings with the ability of opening a portal for the purpose of abducting people....though for what purpose I shudder to think...also, unsure why some are returned.

I'm happy this film was made as this is a very important topic for discussion (and very thought provoking). I do think Parks Services (and other gov't bodies) are aware of some sort of phenomenon going on but are hiding what they know.

Good film overall, and I'd recommend it to anyone who is interested in this topic.

Dave - Toronto

[Spellbound]

By the way, if it's not ok for me to have listed the torrent....please feel free to edit my post and take it out. I had asked Bill previously (in a different thread...different topic) if torrents were ok to be listed and he implied that it was fine by him.

Dave - Toronto

[mgray]

I agree with you SB. I thought it was a poor example for the central plot because it implied and stated by the parents that one of the campers killed the boy. My assumption was that they all agreed to be interviewed, which other victims' families would not.

I guess this film was not meant for us, but for people not aware of the disappearances.

I too did enjoy the cinematography.

[skogvokter]

Very disappointing. And I was really looking forward to this. It covers 4 cases and keep going back to the Deorr Kunz case and questioning the family's involment.
If I'm right I thought David Paulides always says he won't investigate a case if it looks like it could have been an animal attack or family related.
Wheres the mystery? There so many unexplained cases not touched upon in this documentary.
You better watch an interview with David Paulides.
This documentary was a real hit and miss.

Oh and do not go too their facebook site and write a bad review, it's gonna to be deleted.

[Bill Ryan]

I watched the film just now. I do largely agree with Spellbound/Dave in his long post above.

Bulletpoints:

• Yes, beautifully filmed. But it was a case of form over substance, at least quite a lot of the time. There was at least 20-25 mins of video, maybe more, that had no place or reason to be there, apart from because of someone's sense of 'style'.

• They got lost in their storyboard. The film-makers seemed to forget where they were going, or how best to get there. In a subject as important as this, every minute of video counts. There's a fair number of things I'd have done differently, with a 7-figure budget.

• Dave Paulides, I'm strongly suspecting, undersold himself by declining to be mainstage. But he's by far the best presenter of this material, and is doing himself (and, importantly, the material) a disservice by not being prominent. He should have been the linking commentary/voiceover, cutting every now and then to standalone 30-60 second clips from a new on-camera interview with him by George Knapp, filmed in a studio, stressing all the aspects of the bigger picture — which really was missing.

• More emphasis should have been given — by more people — to the highly strange, totally unexplainable nature of the phenomenon. Way too easy here for a new viewer to come away thinking, heck, it was just a cat or a bear, of course, or maybe some psychopath, even a family member or friend. Too many of the people on camera actually spoon-fed those ideas to the viewer.

• Again, this is Paulides over-compensating by being much too reasonable. A HUGE mistake of his. In over an hour and a half, not one person came close to saying anything like: "The only logical conclusion is that someone or something, which had intelligence, just grabbed them directly out of this reality."

• That would have taken just 10 seconds of video. I'd have made sure that someone said that, even if I'd scripted the line for them — and would have accompanied it with a long, 15-seconds-to-slow-fade, onscreen text caption. Maybe twice... at the start of the film, and also then repeated at the end.

[AutumnW]

Could Paulides have been pressured to be low key to the point of no key in "the interests of national security." I note that the Robert Salas, Malmstrom missile silo interference story -- the BEST evidence for UFO activity in our airspace is routinely overlooked by documentarians. And the higher up the media food chain, the more it's overlooked. Of course that story has national security implications. Ufos messed with nuclear missile launch codes.

So, the national park disappearances, framed as they are in this documentary, could be part of a decoy strategy. Very frustrating. What are they afraid of? Is there a very real threat there, much more than we are currently aware of? Is it so huge it represents a threat to national security?