Is this becoming the all Charles forum

[Myatding]

Posted by Tuza (here)
Okay so I can see where both of you are coming from, Barry and Bill. The most important issue here is Charles has not yet come back on and given information that we have not heard yet.................................that is the bottom line. I presume you haven't met his master yet Bill?

Now until such time as we do get said unknown information and you do meet said 5,000 year old master, then the bottom line really is................stalemate isn't it. I see where Barry is coming from. The whole Charles vid and all the rest could well be engineered by them like a well oiled engine. Bill has to have faith in Charles and that whole story.

The thing is you can be played like a violin (which I am presuming Kerry thinks you are) and if that does play out......................mmmmmh, I'm sure a lot will understand and some will point the finger and say I told you so.

So looks like we wait.................................?

My own opinion is though if I have had to wade through stuff here to see what he eventually had to say................and then nothing............I wont say it, I will just think it cuz its my own opinion.

I'm new here. I'm not new, however.

It surprized me to see that you unsubscribed SpiritWolf for 7 days Bill when he looked to me to be communicating something that he felt important to communicate. It doesn't look much different than whistleblowers trying to call it like they saw their little bit of it and then getting taken out so that they wouldn't disturb the on-going plan. I'm all for what you're doing here Bill, but I don't see why this level of questioning is a problem.

I feel able to handle it, but again I'm new here. I came here to see what I could learn, pieces in the puzzle wise. I was tipped to coming into the forums to follow what more might have been said by "Charles", but my world sure doesn't end there, as it obviously doesn't for all of you including Bill.

Even if Charles and "Master" are playing this group and Bill like a violin we can all work together to see it for what it is. Are we that dulled that we can't be trusted to work it out for ourselves?

I say this with full respect to you Bill. I do want to see you keep on track with the work at hand, and I hope to come to know you personally one day. This place is special and I for one want to see people get over their wounds from fighting and work together again. Isn't the point to not let them divide and conquer through seeing through the game and choosing to work together any way?

Don't we call each other names at times, even in close relationships, but then get to a point where we have to start afresh and work together again?

If we ever (EVER!) decide that we have to address all of the hurts that someone has done to us (this life and others) befor we can work with them I really don't see us doing much other than fighting like a bunch of bears or worse.

What about everyone call each other a bunch of names and then get on with it after a couple of beers and a laugh?!

Know what I mean?

I'm fully happy whether Charles is for real or not, whether Kerry and Bill make up or not, whether Bill's getting played or helping Charles evolve. It's all way interesting and theres so much here that helps us to piece the whole thing together that really I am thrilled to be here.

I hope that this is read in the spirit of warmth, respect and love of other that it is writen. Especially by Bill. You are the reason I found the Charles videos Bill. Not Charles. I was searching for "Project Avalon" every few days on YouTube hoping to see interveiws that I hadn't yet seen!

And no, I'm not following you as far as you showing me what to think. I like your interviewing style and I feel a resonance with you as a being. I want to see what you are getting up to and also do my bit to pray a cover of protection over you.

Woo hoo buckaroo.... Let's get some work done!

[Myatding]

I note that some are saying that those getting sat in the time-out chair have been getting disrespectful and outright rude. I may be out of order in voicing my opinions about this before reading everything. Or perhaps not. Forgive me if I have been hasty. The rest of my message holds true in any case.

[heretogrow]

Hello to all,
I am a newbie, a provisional member but I have followed Bill and Kerry for over three years. I would just like to say that probably many of us new ones here are feeling as if we have stumbled upon a wealth of information and have been given a great gift. The Charles material may have caught the attention of some who were not permitted to post, but the information, depth and breadth of this site speakes for itself as do the volumes of innovative thoughts presented in the past by the seasoned members.

Having all these new members sign up and join in I think it would be most like having a small intimate family and seeing it explode exponentially and not really knowing how it will all mesh together. I know it must be very hard during this shuffling and settling phase and my heart goes out to you. But please do not overlook the benefits that this may be bringing to mankind.

In the past week or so that I have joined this forum, my parents, whom I live with after losing our home, are starting to question things that they never had before. They are starting to wonder about so many things across the board that I can't even begin to cover it all. My own six year old is asking me questions about minions, her words, and the pyramids in Egypt and going into long speils about how we are a human family and should have compassion for each other. Two weeks ago, these people that I love so much would not so much as turn off the tv to talk to one another. My point is something amazing is happening here and it may happen too fast for comfort but it is still amazing. Do I think the fact that I joined this forum and all this is taking place now is a coincidence? I think not. What I believe is that we are all connected and once the ball of awakening starts rolling it will be as swift and stirring as the energies we feel pouring in and they are becoming so much more intense.

Please accept this little bit of gratitiude from this little bitty provisional member who is honored to be here whether we figure this all out or not. My take on all of this is the collective consciousness is shifting and we are riding a very important and significant wave.

As an aside, I joined the forum now, after trying to join before, but did something wrong and it did not go through, because the timing was right. I was also intrigued because it seemed the Charles material was asking us to actually Do something, instead of just taking it all in. He seemed to ask us to crack a code which was very challenging. For the past four years I have been praying to our creator to let me find a way to help humanity. When the oportunity arrised I jumped to take it with no apologies! No matter what happens with the Charles material I have been empowered and have found a wonder of knowledge that can help me find the answers I am looking for and discovered some are just inside myself. This has changed me to actively seek to make my future better regardless of the outcome. What you have here at this forum is no less than a miraculous thing. Please don't think that this goes unoticed! Thanks! Please forgive the spelling errors. I can't seem to download the spell check just yet.
Julia

[Ross]

Posted by heretogrow (here)
Hello to all,
I am a newbie, a provisional member but I have followed Bill and Kerry for over three years. I would just like to say that probably many of us new ones here are feeling as if we have stumbled upon a wealth of information and have been given a great gift. The Charles material may have caught the attention of some who were not permitted to post, but the information, depth and breadth of this site speakes for itself as do the volumes of innovative thoughts presented in the past by the seasoned members. Having all these new members sign up and join in I think it would be most like having a small intimate family and seeing it explode exponentially and not really knowing how it will all mesh together. I know it must be very hard during this shuffling and settling phase and my heart goes out to you. But please do not overlook the benefits that this may be bringing to mankind. In the past week or so that I have joined this forum, my parents, whom I live with after losing our home, are starting to question things that they never had before. They are starting to wonder about so many things across the board that I can't even begin to cover it all. My own six year old is asking me questions about minions, her words, and the pyramids in Egypt and going into long speils about how we are a human family and should have compassion for each other. Two weeks ago, these people that I love so much would not so much as turn off the tv to talk to one another. My point is something amazing is happening here and it may happen too fast for comfort but it is still amazing. Do I think the fact that I joined this forum and all this is taking place now is a coincidence? I think not. What I believe is that we are all connected and once the ball of awakening starts rolling it will be as swift and stirring as the energies we feel pouring in and they are becoming so much more intense. Please accept this little bit of gratitiude from this little bitty provisional member who is honored to be here whether we figure this all out or not. My take on all of this is the collective consciousness is shifting and we are riding a very important and significant wave. As an aside, I joined the forum now, after trying to join before, but did something wrong and it did not go through because the timing was right. I was also intrigued because it seemed the Charles material was asking us to actually Do something, instead of just taking it all in. For the past four years I have been praying to our creator to let me find a way to help humanity. When the oportunity arrised I jumped to take it with no apologies! No matter what happens with the Charles material I have been empowed and have found a wonder of knowledge that can help me find the answers I am looking for and some are just inside myself. This has changed me to actively seek to make my futeure better regardless of the out come. What you have here at this forum is no less than a miraculous thing. Please don't think that this goes unoticed! Thanks!Please forgive the spelling errors. I can't seem to download the spell check just yet.
Julia

Welcome Julia,

Here is a little suggestion.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...xt-heavy-posts.

Thank you for your contribuiton and any question please feel free to PM me or the other Mods.

Ross

[Ross]

There are currently 10,798 threads here at Avalon. (not all are avaliable to new members) Plenty else to read and contribute here besides the Charles threads.

Our current influx of new members is mostly due to the Charles interview but this is certainly not the "Charles forum".

Ross.

[DeRezzed69]

Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
[B][I] Without having to repeat myself, and as others have noted, the above HAVE been fully covered by numerous individuals and the data available on the internet. So I, among others still fail to see how everyone has missed that, and see only Charles saying these things?

i'm a long time follower of camelot and avalon, and, although i'm new to this forum, i'm not new to alternative media/forums.
what fascinated me about charles was not so much WHAT he said, many things were indeed already known, but HOW he presented it. very coherent, naturally connecting the dots. there was so much to read between the lines.
it all rang very true to me.

btw.: what's wrong with this being temporarily the charles forum. i have written and administered forums myself and i know this: the hot topic today will be old news tomorrow. next time, it will be the <insert-name-of-next-whistleblower-here> forum. in between it will be just business as usual. i think it's fine.

...DRez

[Celine]

Much ado about Nothing

[peg226]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Exactly. There's a wealth of important information here.

The thing that sets the 'Charles' material apart - in my opinion - is that it encompasses everything:

• The origins of the human race
• Our ET ancestors and their agenda
• The controlling group and how they operate - and how things may be changing
• Plans for the human race for the next few years
• (and much more)

This is all so highly charged that it's almost impossible not to either get very focused/interested, or very upset/critical. Not much room for middle ground.

This might have been answered asked elsewhere but I will ask anyway is there anywhere interviews or material to compare with what was said by Charles? I have been visiting the sight since before the "change" and have seen some generalities of some material comparisons but the new stuff such as all groups - elites, PTB ect are all nothing compared to his "Charles" group that is "supposedly" the real controllers. This would seem to be the foundation of his being and believing this would lend to giving a higher credence to anything else Charles says. faith in one persons testimony is truly in my opinion a farce, there must be some added proof or collaborated material/testimony that is credible before one should even attempt to trust and give energy to whatever ends he/she sees fit.

Things/people can be manipulated, such as the spoken before hand "change" in which was also touched in the interview - that being a strategy to shut you - Bill and Sherry up, by your estimations was a backfire because of the outreach by two instead of one joined. No one is above being manipulated and can be done very easily especially if that group has a financial interest and unlimited funds at their disposal.

This is the main reason for my post; all I have seen and heard is in the back burner until some type of information comes down the pipeline to give credence to Charles and his "Master".. one more thing, it is strange how just about everyone seems to be an anti-Christ when they try to convert people to their way of thought/truth.

[Isostool]

I agree with the statement that there are many people here and everywhere who are vulnerable to - being lead. It's a natural behaviour. The elder wisdom is really needed around to temper it. No matter what the thing is that people are tempted to follow, people need the wisdoms around them to keep an eye on things so that this impression of discernment is kept strong within and without, in all. [and I'm not talking necessarily about age here, wisdom comes in all shapes and sizes, thanks to the compression available in our time]. Being brave and standing up and speaking out against the grain is a noble act and very hard to do. Without some kind of healthy nurturing of it on this forum as a whole entity that we are, I fear that wonderful sparks of innovation may be doused. Before they even begin in some cases. Let us have a hose in one hand and a bellows in the other.

Embrace the unembraceable. Love the unlovable. Hold upon your shoulders the greatest of your enemies, and indeed you are untouchable. Become the unthinkable. Think the unbeable. Do the Impossible.

[DeRezzed69]

oh, i forgot something: to those who think of "newbies" as kind of a menace: isn't that counter-productive? what is your message to them? "please wake up, but please don't do it here?". shouldn't you help them, instead of alienating them?

there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers...

...DRez

[witchy1]

*cough cough* - If I may ------ I think its important to keep in the front of our minds that most people join Avalon for its uniqueness, spirit, teamwork, and overall goal of truth seeking.

Each of our journey toward that purpose will need to take a different route - but we all somehow and for a variety of reasons made it here as a central point - eventually and somehow for a purpose, maybe individually maybe collectively. Time will tell.

There are some very wise new souls here, with astounding experience and knowledge. We are fortunate they choose Avalon. For those less experienced then its up to us individually and as a whole to lead them gently in the right direction. We all take on the role of teacher - it is our gift to others. I am sure most of us have all retreated in the chaos in the last few weeks questioning, wondering and seeking solitude. Certainly things are not as they were, however change, as difficult as it seems at the time, can be positive for without it we cannot grow. .

For those unfortunates that do not have the best intentions - lead them gently to the door

We must practice patience and methodically sort it through. We will be a better more focussed and healthy team as a result.

Avalon needs the established members. Not only does it assist in maintaining honesty, but their words of wisdom and great voices of experience assist each and everyone of us. They, like everyone else are pivotal to the success of Avalon, its mission and objectves. We stay because we agree with those principles.

Tolerance respect and love for each other

We are all part of a unique site, all with good hearts and souls. The dust will settle soon and new stars will shine - alongside the established ones.

[modwiz]

Posted by DeRezzed69 (here)
oh, i forgot something: to those who think of "newbies" as kind of a menace: isn't that counter-productive? what is your message to them? "please wake up, but please don't do it here?". shouldn't you help them, instead of alienating them?

there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers...

...DRez

You have my support DeRezzed69.

You are right, ignorant statements should be picked apart, gently if possible. All questions are welcome.

There is so much to read here it can be daunting. Asking questions can help the old timers point you to past threads that will help you expand your knowledge base and give you more questions to ask.

Again, welcome.

Modwiz

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Newbies, this isn't x360a.com. I'm new to this site and I have already had a long chat in PMs with Charles and we don't talk shop. So far I have 2 friends (Atticus and the wonderful Harley) I don't give a monkeys who's been here the longest. This site is heading towards a huge audience and I'm encouraging close friends to at least bookmark this site for good explanations and theories of whats happening around us.

Oh and incidentally isn't Charles a newbie ? and if everything he has said is fake and made up then he deserves the Noob Of The Year Award lol.
Personally I believe we should be quite honored by his presence here.

[write4change]

How I function is often to wait for fulfillment to unfold. I joined in the midst of the Charles explosion. I was motivated to join because of the Anglo Saxon Mission which just resonated. I have played the Charles interview twice with two weeks in between times. I have made it a point to read none of the Charles threads until now. I have read every post on all 12 pages. What is surprising to me is the last 5 pages come from today.

I read this thread to get some idea of Charles' meaning to the site. It is still not clear. My basic concern is its effect on credibility. I had really been impressed with Bill and felt I could urge some people I know who hold themselves out to be complete rationals could ruminate on what Bill has to say. And some of the interviews and the information in them are quite compelling. When the Charles stuff appeared I knew now was not the time to bring total rationals to the site.

Now that I have read Bill's profile that he posted on the MyersBriggs thread and I posted my book research on---I definitely understand Bill's thinking and his position and it is exactly what I originally thought and experience from Bill. That being said, there is absolutely nothing I would ever ask Charles but I would listen to whatever he had to say to a group of people.

I keep looking for a way to bring people who live totally in their heads to some kind of deeper experience or a different way of thinking. It is not easy and reading and watching about the disclosure project has given me definitive feed back on why that is. Everything is a process and the process is a huge spectrum. I do not think anything will affect Bill's credibility as long as he comes from a place of integrity and nothing I have come in contact with indicates that Bill ever comes from any place else.

So I will just have to hang out and hang in with all of you until I get more clarity about what this is really all about.

[araucaria]

OK, let me say why I joined this forum in the wake of the Charles material. Charles came here to ‘deal with’ Bill, a two-edged phrase that, on behalf of the 33 who were threatening to ‘deal with’ billions of our fellow humans.
I have personal experience of a vicarious death threat situation - my brother, who had sacked a drug abuser who would have attempted to murder him had he not been out. As it happened this guy nearly killed someone else instead and went to prison for some time. However, when he was soon due for release, the police felt the situation was so dangerous that a new identity was required, involving total removal from family and friends, vetoed by my brother. Many many people will have been privately wishing him well after he cut off communications on the pretext of illness. However I was let in on the secret, and the only way of dealing with what was now my issue was to realize how I myself was the unconscious vehicle of this in a way anonymous violence aimed at my brother. By the time this was done, the guy was a couple of weeks from release from his halfway house, and would soon be back at large. Then something strange and miraculous happened: he broke curfew and was found dead under a motorway bridge. This was also very unfortunate, for the key is to see the ‘enemy’ as one’s friend, or rather as oneself.

This microcosmic experience has made me quite sanguine about the 33 business, although so much bigger, even the worst-case scenario where Charles is a villain. If we all do our inner work and send out positive thoughts, this will demolish the evil force that is actually within ourselves, and the outside threat, don’t ask me how, will fade away. Charles is or is not a villain, it’s our call (cf. Schrodinger’s cat). It is very exciting to see him changing before our eyes.

This is a fair contest, where no harm is meant, though some may happen. I see it like a rugby match. If you are tackled by superior numbers, you can either go with the flow, i.e. backtrack, or stand your ground until you are offside (in the opponent’s newly gained territory) and either penalized or trampled on because you are not supposed to be there. Strength and safety in numbers: no wonder some people think the population should be culled. But rugby is a game for gentlemen, and Bill for one surely knows by now that he is a gentleman.
(recommended reading: The Madness of George W. Bush, by Paul Levy).

[aikya]

Thank you, witchy, for saying that.

[witchy1]

Thank you, witchy, for saying that

my abolute pleasure - spoken from the heart aikya. Welcome to Avalon by the way

[aikya]

Thank you so much, it's nice to be welcomed.

[noxon medem]

Post deleted by me for not being relevant.

The closing of thread "kerrys blog" lead to
some thoughts concerning that spreading around.
I never get used to this closing of threads.
It is very frustrating.
Hope one of the mods can delete this post totaly.

Edit:
- a couple of days later :
obviously not, so here is a random image
to lift this complaint a bit :



and some music to accompany it.
mix

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d78K4rCEfAo

and for comparison :



nm

[bilko]

Posted by witchy1 (here)
*cough cough* - If I may ------ I think its important to keep in the front of our minds that most people join Avalon for its uniqueness, spirit, teamwork, and overall goal of truth seeking.

Each of our journey toward that purpose will need to take a different route - but we all somehow and for a variety of reasons made it here as a central point - eventually and somehow for a purpose, maybe individually maybe collectively. Time will tell.

There are some very wise new souls here, with astounding experience and knowledge. We are fortunate they choose Avalon. For those less experienced then its up to us individually and as a whole to lead them gently in the right direction. We all take on the role of teacher - it is our gift to others. I am sure most of us have all retreated in the chaos in the last few weeks questioning, wondering and seeking solitude. Certainly things are not as they were, however change, as difficult as it seems at the time, can be positive for without it we cannot grow. .

For those unfortunates that do not have the best intentions - lead them gently to the door

We must practice patience and methodically sort it through. We will be a better more focussed and healthy team as a result.

Avalon needs the established members. Not only does it assist in maintaining honesty, but their words of wisdom and great voices of experience assist each and everyone of us. They, like everyone else are pivotal to the success of Avalon, its mission and objectves. We stay because we agree with those principles.

Tolerance respect and love for each other

We are all part of a unique site, all with good hearts and souls. The dust will settle soon and new stars will shine - alongside the established ones.

Well said!
When the master needs to gain more information he takes on an apprentice for it is through sharing information that we gain more.
Maybe it was the apprentice that threw the wrong rock into the lime firing pit that resulted in the birth of metal working!