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    Thanks Cider

    Looks like she might have to hang the gloves up after this...we'll see...

    Jeremy Corbyn said the face of British politics has changed and called on Theresa May to resign after her snap general election left Britain with a hung parliament 11 days before Brexit talks begin.

    Speaking as he was returned as MP for Islington North, the Labour leader declared: “Politics has changed. Politics isn’t going back into the box where it was before. What’s happened is people have said they’ve had quite enough of austerity politics.”

    Corbyn said May had called the election to assert her authority. “She wanted a mandate. Well, the mandate she’s got is lost Conservative seats, lost votes, lost support and lost confidence. I would have thought that is enough for her to go.”

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    What could happen...


    What is a hung parliament?

    A hung parliament means no party has won enough seats in a general election to have a majority in the House of Commons.

    Could Prime Minister Theresa May be on course to lose next week's General Election?

    If no one gets a majority at the election, who will be PM?


    Theresa May. In a hung parliament, the incumbent PM stays in office - and lives in Downing Street - until it is decided who will attempt to form a new government.

    How is that decided?

    According to the Cabinet Manual, the closet thing Britain has to a rule-book here, the incumbent PM is entitled to attempt to form a government then stay in office until Parliament meets, when they can ask MPs to approve his Queen’s Speech. Parliament is expected to meet for the first time after the election on Tuesday, June 13.

    So Mrs May would be PM until Parliament meets again?

    Not quite. The Cabinet Manual also says that an incumbent government “is expected to resign if it becomes clear that it is unlikely to be able to command that confidence and there is a clear alternative.”

    That could allow Labour to argue that Mrs May should quit before a certain date if there is clearly an “anti-Tory” majority in the Commons that would inevitably reject her Queen’s Speech and support Mr Corbyn as PM.

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is clawing back support in the polls. 

    What would happen if Mrs May resigned?

    Mr Corbyn would then be first in line to have the chance to form a government which would put its Queen’s Speech to the Commons to see if he could win the support of a majority of MPs.

    Does a hung parliament mean another coalition government?

    Not necessarily. A majority coalition is a formal agreement between two or more parties who between them have more than 323 MPs.

    All the parties then get to provide ministers in the government. The Conservative-Lib Dem coalition of 2010 - 2015 is an example.

    The Conservative-Lib Dem coalition of 2010 - 2015 was led by Prime Minister and Tory party leader David Cameron and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg.
    The Conservative-Lib Dem coalition of 2010 - 2015 was led by Prime Minister and Tory party leader
    But there are other options. A new PM could decide not to seek a coalition with any other party and instead rely on a 'confidence-and-supply' deal with smaller allies.

    That means the smaller parties would support the government on financial matters like the Budget, and in confidence votes which would otherwise bring the government down. The smaller parties wouldn't get ministerial jobs, but they would expect concessions on their chosen policies.

    There's also the option of a minority coalition, where the governing party makes a formal agreement with a smaller party but together they still don't have a majority, meaning they have to seek support in the Commons for every vote.

    Some Labour figures think their party might seek such a deal with the Lib Dems this time but Jeremy Corbyn has been very insistent that there will be no deals with other parties. And Nicola Sturgeon suggested during the campaign that the SNP might be willing to prop up a Labour minority government.

    Finally, a party that lacks a majority could simply try to go it alone and govern as a minority government, vulnerable to being voted down at any time and trying to win the support of other parties on an ad hoc basis for every vote. Minority governments rarely last long.



    How long would it take to sort it all out?

    In 2010, the Conservatives and Lib Dems agreed their coalition in five days, largely because they were worried that financial markets would panic if Britain did not form a new government quickly.

    But everyone involved now agrees that it was done too quickly, meaning some important decisions were botched. Any such talks this year could take much longer.

    Could Mr Corbyn be PM even if Labour isn't the biggest party?

    Technically, yes. A PM simply has to command the confidence of the Commons: the size of his own party is constitutionally (if not politically) irrelevant.

    The first Labour prime minister, Ramsay MacDonald, took office in 1924 even though Labour had fewer seats than the Conservatives and relying on the tacit support of the Liberals.

    First Labour prime minister Ramsay MacDonald, pictured leaving 10 Downing Street, took office in 1924 even though he had fewer seats than the Conservatives.
    First Labour prime minister Ramsay MacDonald, pictured leaving 10 Downing Street, took office in 1924 even though he had fewer seats than the Conservatives.
    Would that be sustainable?

    Quite possibly not. Prime Minister Corbyn would be vulnerable to being brought down by a combination of Conservative and SNP votes. MacDonald’s government lasted only ten months before collapsing. Baldwin’s Conservatives won the October 1924 election handsomely.

    Could we have a second election soon then?

    It’s much less likely than it was in Baldwin’s day. The Fixed Term Parliaments Act, passed in 2011, means that if a government loses a confidence vote, alternative prime ministers get a 14-day period in which to form their own government.

    Only if a second confidence vote is lost is an early election held. Otherwise, the next election will come in May 2020.

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    News update
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40219030
    Theresa May to seek to form UK government

    Theresa May will visit Buckingham Palace at 12:30 BST to seek permission to form a UK government, despite losing her Commons majority.
    The prime minister is attempting to stay in office on the understanding that the Democratic Unionist Party will support her minority administration.
    With one seat left to declare, the Tories are eight seats short of the 326 figure needed to command a majority.
    Jeremy Corbyn has urged her to quit, saying Labour is "ready to serve".

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    Given the crazy times we live in, there is a non-zero chance the Queen will tell May, Go home, you're fired!

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    UKIP Nigel Farage Says He'll Be Back Full Time & Theresa May Needs To QUIT




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    I just woke up from a morning kip and it was not a dream...

    Who would have thought Rod would have predicted the two
    Tory Sirens to be our first female pm's....LOL

    Maggie and May...


    Rod Stewart Maggie May 1971


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    Hung Parliament: Q&A guide to what happens when no-one wins the election

    54 minutes ago

    From the section Election 2017

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40209087

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    Anna Soubry: 'It was a dreadful campaign' - BBC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diiQImdCFsY
    Published on 8 Jun 2017
    The Conservative MP for Broxtowe, Anna Soubry, has given a frank assessment of
    her party's campaign.

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    EXIT POLL - The UK General Election 2017

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQaD4liUvA
    Published on 8 Jun 2017





    Theresa May 'Strong relationship' between DUP and Conservatives - BBC News



    Published on 9 Jun 2017

    Theresa May says her government will "provide certainty" and work to keep the
    country "safe and secure". Theresa May says the Conservative party and the DUP
    will work together, having "enjoyed a strong relationship over many years". Brexit
    negotiations will continue, on the same timetable as before, says Mrs May.
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    David Icke talks to Richie Allen about election on Friday June 9th 2017

    This was recorded 8am Friday 9th of June 2017 ( Today) and as David says his
    comments maybe overtaken by events....



    Published on 9 Jun 2017
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