The Breatharian Path

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by IChingUChing : Breatharianism – Is it genuine or just a myth?

There is a wonderful and interesting learning curve ahead that will put all 'is it a myth or not?' conversation to futile, with regards to anything or anyone, states of being, situations and all experiences. All types of experiences do exist (in potentiality and in within it's materialization),therefore there are gurus and 'frauds' and real sincerity that may perhaps not be entirely accurate at times, and there is real genuine state of being.

Love, compassion and tolerance while we begin to understand this world, while we begin to understand (and remember us), and how things were operated, with no malice towards any type of experience, may help us greatly

Many Blessings ~

Limor

[Matt P]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Anyone who only eats five times during their pregnancy is an abusive parent.

Is it abuse if the baby is perfectly healthy and happy?

I would have thought regular readers around here would be more careful not to say anything is impossible in this world of mystery, with the power we have to manifest what we want. I have been noticing references to this ability for many years. I have never tried it but I've also never climbed the world's most dangerous cliffs without ropes. Doesn't mean because I can't do it that it can't be done. Human creation has never ceased to amaze so I'll remain openminded and continue exploring even though I'm not even close to the level of surviving off "universe juice." [Kung Fu Panda reference from 2008]
What a cool concept though. Imagine if we didn't have to destroy another life form in order to survive. Sounds like a great evolutionary leap that would change our entire existence. Lets dream!

Oh, and just for giggles...the universe juice scene 😉😁

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1-vPY6uj5hA

[Pam]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Anyone who only eats five times during their pregnancy is an abusive parent.

Hi AutumnW, that is unfortunately a misconception who does not understand the existence of abundance in our world which is heavily hidden and overlayed, and the origin of some of the beings (people) here as an energy beings, or the truth of food as a programming of society that basically grounds people to a denser level and to the virtual simulation version of this planet.

The body that skips that food programming simply shifts from that program to it's more natural state. Other programs like that that controls society are - age, the regeneration of cells, diseases, beliefs and perceptions, any type of limitation. There is another aspect of ourselves as Avatars, and who we really are feeding while we eat and consume animals, but that is another story..

Here are some videos of the Ecuadorian couple -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhAdUS5RcEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOs_JoQGLU


All the best,

Limor

Limor, I really appreciated your post. I would love it if you would tell us more about your statement.

...and who we really are feeding while we eat and consume animals, but that is another story..

[Pam]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Anyone who only eats five times during their pregnancy is an abusive parent.

There have been accounts of breatharianism throughout history. There is a very interesting account in the book "Autobiography of a Yogi". Lets imagine that it is possible, one could avoid the toxins we have created that are throughout our food chain if one could access energy directly.

When I take a tiny cutting of a plant and put it in a glass of water and it eventually turns into a large plant, I never cease to wonder at that. How does it create so much structure from water? It doesn't seem possible. Is the plant respirating what it needs to grow new structure directly?

[Ben]

In mid January last year, when sitting on the beach of a bay, with the sun just setting over the hills on the other side, my intuition led me to gaze at the sun till it set, whilst doing breathwork at the same time.
What followed for a reasonably mild DMT trip, that lasted for about 15 min, then took about an hour for me to gently come back to 'normality'.
A bit of research led me to believe i'd activated my pineal gland and that it had flooded my body with DMT. And from my perspective that's exactly what happened.
The two times I have done that since, at the top of my local park, have immediatelly led to quite incredible synchronistic meetings with people, who just so happened to either have been having the same experiences, or were totally in tune with, and understanding of, what i'd experienced.
Each time it has felt like I was opening up my energetic self, and letting go of negative feelings, emotions and truamas, thus leaving space for new positive experinces and energies to enter my being.
I really believe we all have it in us to utilize the sun's vitality, in order to create a world where we consume so much less food, are cured of illness, and dare I say it, develop the 'extra sensory powers' that are surely part of our current evolutionary trajectory.

[Limor Wolf]

Posted by peterpam (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Anyone who only eats five times during their pregnancy is an abusive parent.

Hi AutumnW, that is unfortunately a misconception who does not understand the existence of abundance in our world which is heavily hidden and overlayed, and the origin of some of the beings (people) here as an energy beings, or the truth of food as a programming of society that basically grounds people to a denser level and to the virtual simulation version of this planet.

The body that skips that food programming simply shifts from that program to it's more natural state. Other programs like that that controls society are - age, the regeneration of cells, diseases, beliefs and perceptions, any type of limitation. There is another aspect of ourselves as Avatars, and who we really are feeding while we eat and consume animals, but that is another story..

Here are some videos of the Ecuadorian couple -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhAdUS5RcEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOs_JoQGLU


All the best,

Limor

Limor, I really appreciated your post. I would love it if you would tell us more about your statement.

...and who we really are feeding while we eat and consume animals, but that is another story..

Hi Petpam, insted of answering direct, I would like to share my different phases of food intake. When I was young, age 3-5 I was made to eat. Like all mothers (under program) that was thought best and that 'breakfast is needed' ,my body didn't need it, but I wasn't allowed to get out of the table if I didn't eat what's on the plate, and because of my family being under more programming and cohercment than others.. I ended up more then once having the plate content on my face. Whenever was possible, I would throw the bread topped with jam out of the window and all sorts of acts like that.

At the age of 10 I became vegeterian after my brother and I, who were playing ball, had to climb over a slaughter house fence to get it back, that evening my brother 'illuminated' me that what is served to us is a 'dead cow' - when my mother verified this, I was pushing the plate far from me. I simply couldn't. but I felt symptoms of unappreciatedness all around society back then (collective programming), at the beginning my body craved what I love to eat before that, but soon it ceased.

I always wanted to be a vegan, that was an awarness and an inner feeling, but the body in it's density didn't let me, I have tried a couple of times, as I felt it's my nature, in the first two days I felt full of energy and upliftment, as soon as I would continue, not only the energy dropped tremendously, but I could feel all sort of strange sensations, an overall feeling of lack, rather then nourishment - that like with many, have led to the conclusion that 'this is not for me', 'I don't know how to do it right', 'this is not meant to be' - and 'that is risky and I am entering a state of malnourishment' (which is not entirely untrue knowing how energy is being harvested) my spirit said otherwise, but my body had it's own ideas.. or had it?

Finally, one day I watched the famous Gary Yourofski YouTube video, that was sent to me, even though not thinking that there's 'anything new under the sun', but when finished I went to the refrigerator and throw all the dairy and milk products that were there (that movie seems to be having this affect on many people..) . The next day I became vegan, my will was stronger then anything that gave resistance in my body. That was happening on 1/11/11

At that point the level of interdimensional interference on beings in a human body became more and more visible and understood, moreso having the abductions and strangest things in my life which led me into research (as most of us here, each and their own 'nisch'), and when connecting the dots of the many behaviours of our society in mind, body and mental influences (hard to explain but so easy to see around us with the right set of glasses), all our institutions (hospitals are good example.. but schools and most anything else as well) are working as an energy harvesting 'machines' and are not for the benefit of human beings.. so, to the benefit of who? Are we really that limited that we have to give our life, energy, and our being to be dependent on something of a system or on someone else? the way it was done is that we do give our 'consent' according to a very twisted universal law (a bit of a bullocks here..please excuse me) while we attend those institutions that we were conditioned to visit, being in the state of amnesia knowing nothing else. Taking it further in perspective, it's a gloom reality that is being exposed, on one side of the coin and a positive one on the other, because now we can help ourselves (the game of duality, which is reflected in this planet in it's overlayed dimensional expression. as consciousness does not play with each but containing the all)

So many games are being played with and via human beings, the political, educational, governmental, entertainment aspects of our society is being controlled, no ET disclosure is needed but a much much further one, and so does our BODY. No, we are' not alone in the world' (and niether alone in our body), but that is not about the 'crazy ET's disclosure trend that is about to be presented to us while we are meant to act upon it, react to it, play our 'roles' - looking outside again, while overlooking the truth of our true selves.. are scripted to praise the saviors that will come to help us that are under systems of programming themselves - another type of parasiting in sheep's clothes over the unaware.. up untill consciousness strike which will stop all this unadequate permission over our human race, this is well under the sleevs. The human treasures are far and sought after, and we are kind and in spirit am accommodating and connected to all sentience, plants included, so it's far far deeper than that.

Now, if our bodies are Avatars, meaning our bodies are like a car, the question is, who do we give permission to drive our vehicle, knowingly or not? would that be an outer source or our own spirit? Are all our sensations, thoughts, beliefs, body conditions our own?

That may not be true to all, though, as our Earth society is not homogeneous one - therfore the parasiting and the being parasited 'roles' - that we consider as ' normal' - and often say - '' such is life' - but that is not true... food is a programming that is meant to keep the human body under density and mute and subdue the human cosciousness, food intake considerd normal and we can't IMAGINE anything else, strict in our convictions, we are literally programming ourselves, and are keeping the limitaions and the true free will going, the energy that we generate via all means of our lives is passed on, not to say taken. So, it is about to be quite exciting, wonderful and necessary kind of awakening that is coming up, Let it be for the highest good and for the highest benefit of all.

Blessings,

Limor

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Jantje (here)
There is a difference between being a breatharian and claiming to be one. A video on youtube of someone claiming not to have eaten food for an x amount of time does not prove anything.
I also wonder why we have a digestion system if we don't need food to be processed by the body to get nutrition.

I remain skeptical on this topic for now.

There's two parts to this -

1) there is getting energy from oxygen, which is called aerobic energy, and everyone knows they get winded when they do cardio because the body needs more energy in the form of oxygen. We get this oxygen through breathing. Hence the breathing provides energy. Whether this is real or not is not up for debate - it's known scientific fact.

2) aside from energy, a body needs nutrients. Why/how we need nutrients will be explained below, but one cannot create nutrients from oxygen - this is not possible.

In regular people, the body only switches to using aerobic energy when larger amounts of energy are needed to be expended over a very long period of time - long distance running is a perfect example. In all other scenarios, the body uses energy from calories that is stored in the blood and in muscle tissue. Pro bodybuilders often ingest 10,000+ calories per day to fuel their huge muscles. The muscles get huge so they can store more energy - but this energy comes strictly from calories. A long distance runner's muscles are different - they burn aerobic energy from oxygen and don't need to have any large size to be effective or efficient. This is how extreme long distance runners are often very thin, yet the energy they put out during say a marathon run is relatively huge - far more than a body builder in a typical workout scenario, because oxygen is converted to energy "on the fly". When anyone is in a normal resting state (the main state of every westerner the vast majority of the time in our "exotic" western lifestyles), they burn calories anaerobically -- meaning they burn calories as their vast main energy source.

I don't know much about breatharianism, and can't comment directly on that and what the trends are, but I can say one can train their body to breath efficiently at resting state and force their body to get much more of their energy from oxygen as opposed to food. This requires dedicated breathing practices and techniques. When this happens, the body needs far less energy from calories, and a very low calorie diet becomes adequate for energy sustenance.

Now at the same time that calories are greatly reduced, the body will go through 300-400 gene expression changes. What do all these gene changes do? It's not fully understood, but some of the gene changes put the body into an extremely efficient mode. That is the thing with the human body -- it is incredibly adaptable -- if you feed it a fat and calorie rich western diet, it will generally become inefficient at processing food and energy, because it can - it is getting excess of what it needs. When calories are restricted, the body senses that it needs to become highly efficient at processing inputs to maintain proper functioning and the gene expressions change to produce this effect. This is why extreme low calorie diets fail at causing one to lose weight - the body just goes into efficiency mode, and when one tries to resume normal eating habits again afterward, you just gain more weight, as it takes some time for those gene expressions to change again.


Now the "nutrients" part of it. The human body is an extremely efficient nano-assembler. It can pull apart molecules and redesign them to make new molecules that it needs for proper functioning. The human body utilizes around 6000 different chemical compounds for all it's various process to keep itself alive and functioning, yet only needs about 30ish molecules (in the form of vitamins) and some minerals to create any of those 6000 compounds. That's how good it is at what it does. The body also recycles almost anything it can - sometimes harmful substances like cyanide can be created during some of this processing, yet the body can use trace amounts of cyanide to create other compounds that are useful. This happens inefficiently in a calorie rich environment, and more efficiently in a calorie restricted one, similar to what we see with energy.

The question becomes, what does it take to make the body so very efficient, that it requires no nutrients to keep up all it's chemical processes for normal functioning? This is the factor to consider with breatharianism. It "may" be possible that ones body can become this efficient, but you would need to have all the needed compounds and materials (vitamins / minerals) at a perfect ratio and functioning in perfect recycling so as little to no losses of any nutrient. Most people in medicine will tell you this is not possible.

If anyone is going to play around with caloric restriction or breatharianism, DO NOT gamble on the nutrient part of the equation or disease could be the end result - take very high quality vitamin/mineral supplements as part of the regimen. People who are "breatharian", I suspect have highly efficient bodies, and many of their claims may be true, but if you body is not running as efficiently as you think, a lack of nutrients will inevitably result and cause disease.

All that said, there are examples of people who claim to not eat or even drink much fluids, and have been curiously tested by scientists and military (of course) with no final conclusions.

[Hym]

Wow! LimorWolf, Right On....In so many ways.

You remind us of staying connected with our energy levels, the truth about how the food we consume for energy is produced. The question, maybe more important than whether or not it is feasible to attempt to live primarily on air, is WHAT DRAINS US OF OUR ENERGY? The hypocrisy of the human thought process is not noticing how much people drain each other instead of nurturing each other. Who needs parasites, archonic energies that are very, very real, when people feed off of each other the way they do, and the way they accept the divisions entrained upon them by those who influence their lives? I see the negative parasites, including A.I., as feeding off of the left-overs.

Damn it, people. Take back the beautiful and unending responsibility for your own well being. I guarantee there is no downside to removing the shackles imposed by religions and the new religious dogmas of social media and centuries of educational narrow-mindedness. When I measure the power of breath in my life I look to those who I breath easy with as my attraction, my sustenance.

We do have a right to know exactly how the food we eat is made, but if we do not insist on taking responsibility for those things we put in our bodies, in one way or the other our energy is being consumed by something, by someone else. This is not just about air and the prana it provides as the real food for living a healthy life, as uncirculated and polluted air cannot provide the energy needed to live, alive. The simple truth in the lives of those claiming to be entirely or largely living off of air alone, is that their lives are not physically active. Most are not masters of pranic or uhpaanic breathing and few if any do the hard labor, the satisfying work, like those of us in construction do.

Like Dedukshyn I don't eat a large or even medium amount of calories per day. The fact of the matter is that there are very few who can match my energy level and situational awareness, primarily the condition of those I work with, even though I am twice or 3 x's most of their ages. I eat as I have it prepared and have it ready as I feel the need. I am known by friends and co-workers alike to always have extra food available if they don't have any or have forgotten to bring any. On the other hand, if I am offered food by friends, as long as it is not too sugar laden or have meat in it, I will eat as the energy is offered.

Breath is the difference between awareness and control of our lives, as much as that is possible or those things we even care to control. The deeper the breath, the more varied the rhythm of breathing, the more aware we are. So many here know this. Because the topic of this thread is living without the need for food or very little food I suggest that the topic and the heading may be a bit off from the core of what it means to be in control of the energy that sustains us and keeps us vibrant. Though it may seem off topic to some, Limor Wolf's comments and experiences go to the Heart of what this topic is all about. Dismiss her spot on observations and you miss the entire value of the topic itself.

I too have lived with water and tea, without food for 2 weeks at a time, but it was a natural progression of allowing the indoctrination of desire, projected by society, to simply fade from my view. I measured desire and where it came from and saw it, and all years since this time, to disappear from my focus. I was most impressed at how happy I was and how happiness just came in out of it's own accord. It seemed a very natural state, yet it was not measured in relationship to anyone else around me.....It may have seemed very spacey to others. I do know that I could not have stayed without food if I had been working as energetically as I have building, no way. Nor could I have exercised as long and intensively as is my normal state if I had no solid food in me.


A good example of just what energy really means to our health is one I will share here. A driver friend of mine, 400 lbs.+, went way out of his way to find and purchase veggie burgers just for me, when he spent time to make barbecue for our Friday shared lunch. He didn't want to leave me out of the sharing. Even though the grill was dripping with juice from the meat burgers and this is where he grilled my veggie burgers, I ate them. It had been over 40 years since I had any meat at all, but because it was made with so much love it could not be refused. I did not get sick and more importantly I did not project sickness into the food I ate. It came in love, I found nourishment in the veggie-ness and the truth is that the burger was dripping with love. How could I not be nurtured by that?

It is only a higher, thus natural state, of consciousness that takes all of our living habits into account and finds out what and who takes our energy. It is also natural and nurturing to find and allow those who energize us into our lives. Limor certainly expresses a commendable
awareness of the truth I also know thru my experiences.

[AutumnW]

I don't believe the human body can maintain itself without food forever and yes, I believe that a woman who starves her foetus in the womb is abusive, even if that is not her intent.

Have you seen what anorexia does to the human body? People who are so resistant to material reality that they refrain from eating altogether are not highly spiritual, they are in a weird fight to impose their set of beliefs against all creation. It is a neurotic and narcissistic condition twisted into a spiritual experience.

[Hym]

Anorexia is both an acceptance and a rejection about feeling alive, but breatharians do not binge and purge. Anorexia is a deep trance state of feeling unworthy and not facing the temporary nature of living in a human body.
These are two very different states of being, certainly not narcissistic-no more than one who touts a know-it-all attitude about their nutritional lifestyle choices.



Jason Asks His Audience to Breathe.....

My son took me to a Jason Mraz concert last night and I mention this because of the very good, the positive, the inspiring message he and his band shared with us. I didn't know the music well because of it's light jazz and reggae based sound but there was more to the experience than than my own personal music. Besides the good music, and the surprising number of middle aged, like me, people in the audience, there was a heart-lifting reality to the power of loving in the midst of our own problems. At the end of the concert he did something very cool. He asked us all to "take a deep breath..........Then another................And another."......(the audience laughed)....(He quipped something hokey about it at the end, which I will include if my son remembers it....something about breath) Singers all know of the power of breath and breathing deeper, sustaining it to express, to share, to inspire...


It is the quality of the air and the life we breath together, the songs we sing together, using the air we breath to produce a powerful harmony that sustains us and makes the life worth living. It is very different living alone in the air we breath than the air we share.

In one of his well known songs "I Won't Give Up" Jason sings..."God knows we're worth it" an assertion of the responsibility that love brings us as a gift to take care of each other, even to the end of some crazy ass relationships.

(If anyone knows how to imbed Jason's song "I Won't Give Up" I would appreciate you place it here in this thread. It fits.)

I was looking to the skies, as I often do, knowing that we evaluate our worth as a group, a humanity knowing full well we create a large part of our realities, even as to the choice to end it all on a large scale, as has been done before in this brief, two-legged odyssey. If you only knew the power, unencumbered by our own acceptances of lack, of not giving up.....Jason and the band may not have seen it, but as one part of his song went "'Cause even the stars they burn, Some even fall to the earth"...an asteroid fell from the sky and went down over the mountains, the Sandias (someone must have caught that...) "We've got a lot to learn, God knows we're worth it. No, I won't give up..."


Breath is precious. Slowing it down, alone, gives life. Though it seems overly simplistic I would bet that breatharians breathe deeper and slower than the average person.

[AutumnW]

Hym,

Nice that Jason understands breathing is important, particularly deep breathing, for all sorts of life affirming reasons. This thread is about people who claim that they don't have to eat to survive, though. That is a different topic.

It is hardly a know-it-all attitude aboit someone's nutritional choices that prompts me to confront the complete lunacy of thinking you can forgo food and live.

Anorexia is an obsessive compulsive disorder brought about by many factors, chief among them, stress. It is not considered a neurotic condition, as far as I know. I mentioned anorexics not as an example of twisted spirituality but to serve as examples of what a body ends up looking like deprived of food, long term. Seen any pics? Really sad.

[AutumnW]

Posted by mpennery (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Anyone who only eats five times during their pregnancy is an abusive parent.

Is it abuse if the baby is perfectly healthy and happy?

I would have thought regular readers around here would be more careful not to say anything is impossible in this world of mystery, with the power we have to manifest what we want. I have been noticing references to this ability for many years. I have never tried it but I've also never climbed the world's most dangerous cliffs without ropes. Doesn't mean because I can't do it that it can't be done. Human creation has never ceased to amaze so I'll remain openminded and continue exploring even though I'm not even close to the level of surviving off "universe juice." [Kung Fu Panda reference from 2008]
What a cool concept though. Imagine if we didn't have to destroy another life form in order to survive. Sounds like a great evolutionary leap that would change our entire existence. Lets dream!

Oh, and just for giggles...the universe juice scene 😉😁

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1-vPY6uj5hA

If the baby was healthy and happy at birth, then she ate normally throughout her pregnancy. It's a con job. She is pursuing money.

[AutumnW]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

Originally posted by IChingUChing : Breatharianism – Is it genuine or just a myth?

There is a wonderful and interesting learning curve ahead that will put all 'is it a myth or not?' conversation to futile, with regards to anything or anyone, states of being, situations and all experiences. All types of experiences do exist (in potentiality and in within it's materialization),therefore there are gurus and 'frauds' and real sincerity that may perhaps not be entirely accurate at times, and there is real genuine state of being.

Love, compassion and tolerance while we begin to understand this world, while we begin to understand (and remember us), and how things were operated, with no malice towards any type of experience, may help us greatly

Many Blessings ~

Limor

Limor, with respect -- all types of experience DON'T exist. Surviving on sunlight and air, without drinking or eating is an experience that does NOT exist. To suggest it is possible under the rubric of advanced understanding, awareness and spirituality is promoting the impossible.

We are born into this world to change what we can and accept what we can't. No amount of meditation will change that.

[Spiral]

As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true".

Like all cults the main tenet is to all intents & purposes impossible....so you have to stay obedient & keep paying the money if you really wanna get there !

[AutumnW]

Posted by Hym (here)
Wow! LimorWolf, Right On....In so many ways.

You remind us of staying connected with our energy levels, the truth about how the food we consume for energy is produced. The question, maybe more important than whether or not it is feasible to attempt to live primarily on air, is WHAT DRAINS US OF OUR ENERGY? The hypocrisy of the human thought process is not noticing how much people drain each other instead of nurturing each other. Who needs parasites, archonic energies that are very, very real, when people feed off of each other the way they do, and the way they accept the divisions entrained upon them by those who influence their lives? I see the negative parasites, including A.I., as feeding off of the left-overs.

Damn it, people. Take back the beautiful and unending responsibility for your own well being. I guarantee there is no downside to removing the shackles imposed by religions and the new religious dogmas of social media and centuries of educational narrow-mindedness. When I measure the power of breath in my life I look to those who I breath easy with as my attraction, my sustenance.

We do have a right to know exactly how the food we eat is made, but if we do not insist on taking responsibility for those things we put in our bodies, in one way or the other our energy is being consumed by something, by someone else. This is not just about air and the prana it provides as the real food for living a healthy life, as uncirculated and polluted air cannot provide the energy needed to live, alive. The simple truth in the lives of those claiming to be entirely or largely living off of air alone, is that their lives are not physically active. Most are not masters of pranic or uhpaanic breathing and few if any do the hard labor, the satisfying work, like those of us in construction do.

Like Dedukshyn I don't eat a large or even medium amount of calories per day. The fact of the matter is that there are very few who can match my energy level and situational awareness, primarily the condition of those I work with, even though I am twice or 3 x's most of their ages. I eat as I have it prepared and have it ready as I feel the need. I am known by friends and co-workers alike to always have extra food available if they don't have any or have forgotten to bring any. On the other hand, if I am offered food by friends, as long as it is not too sugar laden or have meat in it, I will eat as the energy is offered.

Breath is the difference between awareness and control of our lives, as much as that is possible or those things we even care to control. The deeper the breath, the more varied the rhythm of breathing, the more aware we are. So many here know this. Because the topic of this thread is living without the need for food or very little food I suggest that the topic and the heading may be a bit off from the core of what it means to be in control of the energy that sustains us and keeps us vibrant. Though it may seem off topic to some, Limor Wolf's comments and experiences go to the Heart of what this topic is all about. Dismiss her spot on observations and you miss the entire value of the topic itself.

I too have lived with water and tea, without food for 2 weeks at a time, but it was a natural progression of allowing the indoctrination of desire, projected by society, to simply fade from my view. I measured desire and where it came from and saw it, and all years since this time, to disappear from my focus. I was most impressed at how happy I was and how happiness just came in out of it's own accord. It seemed a very natural state, yet it was not measured in relationship to anyone else around me.....It may have seemed very spacey to others. I do know that I could not have stayed without food if I had been working as energetically as I have building, no way. Nor could I have exercised as long and intensively as is my normal state if I had no solid food in me.


A good example of just what energy really means to our health is one I will share here. A driver friend of mine, 400 lbs.+, went way out of his way to find and purchase veggie burgers just for me, when he spent time to make barbecue for our Friday shared lunch. He didn't want to leave me out of the sharing. Even though the grill was dripping with juice from the meat burgers and this is where he grilled my veggie burgers, I ate them. It had been over 40 years since I had any meat at all, but because it was made with so much love it could not be refused. I did not get sick and more importantly I did not project sickness into the food I ate. It came in love, I found nourishment in the veggie-ness and the truth is that the burger was dripping with love. How could I not be nurtured by that?

It is only a higher, thus natural state, of consciousness that takes all of our living habits into account and finds out what and who takes our energy. It is also natural and nurturing to find and allow those who energize us into our lives. Limor certainly expresses a commendable
awareness of the truth I also know thru my experiences.

Again, this thread is about breatharianism. It's not about people who drain us of energy unless you are conflating people who question breatharianism with those who are averse to love, sunshine, deep breathing, green green grass, sunsets, etc..

If the thread continues to progress along these lines some members will equate those who don't think breatharianism is real with puppy mill operators and cannibals.

[IChingUChing]

One of the reasons I wrote that I think it is irresponsible for the newspaper to print this story is exactly because of vulnerable people like those suffering anerexia who may think this is a sign that they don't have to eat latching on to this idea. Plain dangerous.

It's a wierd one as to why a paper like "The Independent" would publish such a "story" and I mean story as in fiction!

[AutumnW]

Ichinguching,

I read a bit of your long post and really liked what you wrote. Unfortunately, it isn't divided into enough paragraphs for me to read more. If you could edit it into several paragraphs I would love to read it in its entirety.

I agree that this is toxic baloney and potentially dangerous to those already mentally or emotionally fragile.

[AutumnW]

Posted by Spiral (here)
As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true".

Like all cults the main tenet is to all intents & purposes impossible....so you have to stay obedient & keep paying the money if you really wanna get there !

As far as I know dead people in spirit form don't need to eat. Perhaps that's the end game that isn't clearly outlined in the breatharianism manual.

[Spiral]

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by Spiral (here)
As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true".

Like all cults the main tenet is to all intents & purposes impossible....so you have to stay obedient & keep paying the money if you really wanna get there !

As far as I know dead people in spirit form don't need to eat. Perhaps that's the end game that isn't clearly outlined in the breatharianism manual.

LOL, yeah, that's one way of looking at it

The fact is we are here in a physical domain & certain rules apply, granted they may not be the rules that science or the general reality consensus says applies, but look at nature, that's always my first reference, seen any animals that don't eat ?


BTW my point on cults was my main thrust, it's like "enlightenment", there is no such thing, never was , never will be, show me one such person who has reached "enlightenment" & I'll show you someone who realised the time was right to pull that BS on everyone they could!

You can slowly wake up to stuff through long & painful work, but there is no magic "enlightenment", sorry but that's no more real than the tooth fairy.

[Limor Wolf]

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)

Originally posted by IChingUChing : Breatharianism – Is it genuine or just a myth?

There is a wonderful and interesting learning curve ahead that will put all 'is it a myth or not?' conversation to futile, with regards to anything or anyone, states of being, situations and all experiences. All types of experiences do exist (in potentiality and in within it's materialization),therefore there are gurus and 'frauds' and real sincerity that may perhaps not be entirely accurate at times, and there is real genuine state of being.

Love, compassion and tolerance while we begin to understand this world, while we begin to understand (and remember us), and how things were operated, with no malice towards any type of experience, may help us greatly

Many Blessings ~

Limor

Limor, with respect -- all types of experience DON'T exist. Surviving on sunlight and air, without drinking or eating is an experience that does NOT exist. To suggest it is possible under the rubric of advanced understanding, awareness and spirituality is promoting the impossible.

We are born into this world to change what we can and accept what we can't. No amount of meditation will change that.

Thank you for your respect, AutumnW, we are both a long time members here and I respect you as well, sometimes it's all that we have
I hear you and your current perceptions of reality, which is the outmost truth for you, as is mine, as is anyone else. What is beautiful is the 'current' phase, because we are flexible beings in flexible times, and what holds today will not hold tomorrow.

Thank you, and highest blessings to you ~

P.S

For those who may be interested, there is a fascinating thread of two members of Avalon (one former member) who detail their personal experiences of being Bretharians and what it meant for them, most recommended!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...a-how-to-guide