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    Programmed Biological Life Forms

    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    ...The only real claim of bio robots was made by Barry King, and that was a type of grey only, of such claims not much proof or believable corroborating evidence or witnesses have come to light.
    To finish up on this particular point regarding programmed biological enities... It is not only Barry King that has talked about this kind of possibility existing, there is also Linda Moulton Howe who discusses this very thing with Whitley Strieber in the following video... And, you can't get any more further out of "Muddy" than with these two UFOlogy researchers... Note: Published on Nov 16, 2013

    Oh, and btw, Barry King had also mentioned a progammable biological life form that he said was Reptilian in appearance. And also, do you think these military black-ops, deep state sickos are going to limit themselves to manufacturing only little gray beings? That may be a bit of a short-sighted way of looking at this... just saying...

    Barry King CSETI Disclosure
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    (Published on May 1, 2009)
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    Bumping this inasmuch as both Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan have cited Dr. Pete Peterson as being among the handful of whistleblowers who they consider to have the highest credibility, right up there with Arthur Neumann, Linda Howe and Richard Dolan, I think we must pay attention to his assertion that there are humanoid beings who are also Insectoid in nature. He didn't say that they are genetically engineered hybrids or clones or anything of that nature. but seems to categorize them as actually having evolved that way naturally, inasmuch as any species has done so...
    It seems like there has been a whole lot of crossbreeding going on since time out of mind, so I wonder if anyone can trace the true origins of any race with any real surety.
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Dr. Pete Peterson, at about 25 minutes into this interview, speaks of Insectoid ETs:
    https://www.gaia.com/give/video?toke...3301mb8zoft97n
    From this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1170578
    (Possibly there will be a transcript as well).
    update: He also expresses deep appreciation for the positively oriented Reptilians he has encountered.
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    You wanna know what they are up to and why they are here? Perhaps the Earth's life support system that produces the gases that sustain life is failing. The spiritual component of mankind hasnt been evolving for thousands of years and needs to in order for mankind to move past its present course of actions and behaviour, and increase the natural abilities which come from the spirit. Perhaps there are dark and evil forces present on the spiritual planes of existence which need to be contained and cast out from the Earth in order to put things right. Don't judge by our yardstick of what is out there in space, our yardstick is more twisted than a cork screw.
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    Regarding this GaiaTV / Wilcock interview
    with Pete Peterson:

    Apologies go out to all those Zecharin Sitchin fans that would be more than willing to jump on board the 'Reptilian & Mantis are Real' bandwagon, as it has been promoted in this GaiaTV / David Wilcock interview with Pete Peterson.

    I have to say, a red flag immediately went up for me when David Wilcock steered the direction of the interview into what I have previously called the "Zecharia Sitchin / Annunaki / Creator-gods / Gold Mining / Nibiru koolaid punch Bowl." And as revealed by Pete Peterson - in his own words - has obviously shown that he consumed a fair amount of. This, in itself, is enough to "throw the towel in the ring", and discredit whatever else comes out of Pete's mouth.

    I must admit that I have a personal respect for the man - Pete Peterson - for his statement of patriotism, his support for this American Constitutional Republic, his list of supposed accomplishments & genius for what he has supposedly done for humanity, and his warnings of a coming collapse of the world economy.... All of which makes absolute sense...

    However, Pete Peterson's mention of the Annunaki having come to this planet for their supposed lust for gold (to prolong their already extensively long lives), as being the creator gods of humanity for the purposes of mining for that gold... this but wreaks & smells badly of Zecharia Sitchin folklore fantasy. It is quite disappointing to see that Pete Peterson, being a man of his caliber, has bought into such fantasy fiction nonsense as being anything close to a true reality.

    David Wilcock plays his part to a 'T' in his attempts to mislead the audience in the way he phrases his lead-up to the question that he queries. The specific question is tainted with bias when he poses the following to Pete:
    "So, when we go back to the Cuneiform Tablets of Sumerian texts, MOST of the conventional scholarship on that now is in agreement that these Annunaki were some type of extraterrestrials, and they specifically were coming to Earth to steal our gold.

    Do you have any comments on that?"
    (Emphasis mine.)
    This is a misleading statement, as we have a prominent scholar, Michael Heiser, drawing his own investigative conclusions into Zecharia Sitchin's credentials relating to his qualifications for correctly translating the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets...
    Be sure to also have a look on Michael Heiser 's website > Sitchin is Wrong: Zecharia Sitchin's Errors: An Overview

    Zechariah Sitchin has NO Credintials
    Michael Heiser

    (Published on Feb 1, 2016)

    There are a number of interviews that Michael Heiser has made that can be found on the internet, all debunking Zecharia Sitchin proposed theories regarding the outlandish things he has said in his several published books.

    It must also be brought out that Zecharia Stitchin was a member of the Illuminati, as revealed in the following video clip...


    This is typically the style of David Wilcock... adding embellishment(s) in making statement(s), as if were indeed the truth. The use of the word 'Most of conventional scholarship' - better & more correct to replace it with 'Some of conventional scholarship'.

    The interview does make it a bit confusing as its title and subject matter relates to 'Three Fingered Technology'. In the interview, Pete states that most all aliens have three fingers. And that these type of aliens with three fingers are most prevalent. And describes them as being artificial life forms, robotic in nature, in the service of other entities. Then later in this same video he moves into describing the 15 different types of aliens that were on board this second craft that was found beneath the icy surface back in the early 1940s. And that many were shot & killed by Germans. Peterson then moves on to describe these different races by his mention of an insect variety.

    Now, it must be mentioned that it is quite unclear as to whether Pete Peterson is still talking about a robotic biological life forms when he starts talking about the 15 different kinds of aliens that had apparently shared this particular spacecraft?



    Regarding this GaiaTV Wilcock interview with Pete Peterson (Excerpt taken from Post #188 from another thread & posted below in part):
    Quote David: So when we go back to the cuneiform tablets, the Sumerian texts, most of the conventional scholarship on that now is in agreement that these Anunnaki were some type of extraterrestrials and that they specifically were coming to Earth to steal our gold.

    Do you have any comments on that?


    Pete: We, as a race, exist only because we were designed to be gold miners. That's why we exist.

    We were a genetically-manipulated cross-breed of the Anunnaki and . . . I'll give you an example, which is easy to tell.

    I think we have about 92% of the same DNA as the chimpanzee.

    David: Chimpanzee DNA is 98.8% similar to human DNA.

    Pete: Yep. And very early people were not fair of look and bred by the Anunnaki. Ha, ha. They bred a lot more into us.

    And that's why a lot of the aliens . . . I mean, you know, we're bipedal. We have hands, We have fingers. We have two ears, two eyes, two nostrils, one mouth.

    And we look at a good part of the aliens and they're exactly the same.

    David:Right. So, just to be clear, are you saying that the Anunnaki bred us out of something like a chimpanzee and then mixed their own DNA with it?

    Pete: We were somehow bred into what had the DNA . . . similar, obviously very similar, to chimpanzee. It gave us the ability to squat down, get in small . . . Gold usually appears in very small cracks.

    You follow the crack up through the Earth. It came up with water and then set up.

    And remember that a lot of gold is found in quartz. Most gold is found in a quartz deposit.

    David: Hm.

    Pete: Quartz is piezoelectric. If you squeeze it, it produces electricity.

    David: Right.

    Pete: The electricity would do the conversion process. The movement of the Earth would make the electricity that did the conversion process. That's why we find yellow gold there.

    David: Do you think there is a relationship between the Anunnaki that we're talking about just now and the crashes that you personally saw in Antarctica?

    Pete: Well, I think there is because the Anunnaki were the ones who . . . Imagine a mining claim. Well, the Anunnaki were the first people to find that there was a lot of gold on Earth.

    David: Hm.

    Pete: So they had a certain claim and were given a certain task by their task masters, who are, very probably, Draconian.

    David: Are these three-fingered people still on Earth with us today?

    Pete: When I was reverse engineering the controls, I had three-fingered people helping me.

    David:Really? What would they look like in terms of their head and face?

    Pete: Well, there's a difference in the eye structure because of the inner eye fold between Orientals and Anglos. So you have that kind of difference. It's different.

    Lesser nose and different nostrils.

    Their mouths are round, kind of like an octopus sucker. I mean, they're more round than ours.

    Their food is produced by them eating food and excreting an excretion that comes off their skin. And they scrape it off and eat it.

    David: Hm. Is there anything about the head that we should know about?

    Pete: Well, it's different, but it's very much the same.

    David: What's the color of the skin of these beings that you personally interacted with?

    Pete: Well, they are differing colors. I've seen them look almost like aluminum. And I'm not sure but what they might not be, you know, might be aluminum. They might be clones, because they tend to clone these people.

    And they are clones, by the way. This is why their whole feeding system works differently than ours does.

    David: Hm.

    Pete: They're actually like robots, but they're more biological than non-biological.

    David: Hm.

    Pete: I have kind of clandestinely measured the electric fields to kind of get some information, and I can't find any different . . . much different than the human electric field.

    David: Are there any known places on Earth where these people or creatures might have been?

    Pete: Yep. Arctica, Antarctica, Alaska, Canada. Most people don't know, but the Yukon and the Northwest Territory are not part of Canada. They're owned by the . . . whoever the sovereign of England is. They're directly . . . They're privately owned.

    But that's where most of the gold is found. Surprise, surprise.

    David: Ha, ha.

    Pete: Ha, ha.
    No. Really, the laugh is on you guys!
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    I doubt Wilcock has much credibility left here on Avalon, and Dr. Peterson's is no doubt going to be shaky now that he is associated with DW and Gaia, but I have not yet seen any better explanation than Sitchin's for Michael Tellinger's discoveries of ancient camps and gold mines in Africa right about where Sitchin said they would have been.
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    Tellinger also has consumed much of the Sitchen Koolaid... one may be amazed to see just how many have dipped into that koolaid punch bowl...



    More on Sitchen from Michael Heiser


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    @Omnisence , as well as anyone that might not know.

    Just because a someone is using a "reptilian" body (or what ever body) - does not mean evil , it's what matters on the inside, a someone could be negative with any body ("human","reptilian","mantis"/"mantid",etc).

    Cannot say certain for all individuals of any looks, if so, then there is prejudice.
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    Koolaid doesn't explain the very real archeological discoveries in Africa, of mines and settlements hundreds of thousands of years old.
    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Tellinger also has consumed much of the Sitchen Koolaid... one may be amazed to see just how many have dipped into that koolaid punch bowl...



    More on Sitchen from Michael Heiser


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    No. But drinking Koolaid (tainted with LSD), as was done in the 60's, explains why people hallucinate many such delusions that they want to make out of something that has an entirely different explanation...

    Today, people hallucinate by simply "believing" in what they want to be real. Such people have a hard time separating fact from fiction. This, of course, would mean seeing Reptilians or Mantid beings that aren't really there.

    A coil of rope has known to have been mistaken for a snake in various parables. People get addicted to the rush of adrenalin. It is a drug, btw... Hallucinations will come from ingestion of drugs. Drugs, too, come in many forms. A desiring mind is an intoxicated one.
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    That's quite a generalization - would you have a list of names? The above post suggest such is literal instead of metaphorical.. there fore..

    Quote Tellinger also has consumed much of the Sitchen Koolaid..
    Are you saying Tellinger and Sitchen partake in LSD? or other hallucinogens?

    Just asking to keep the focus on what Onawah was reporting on mines being found. I have an opportunity to do surveys on such sites sometime this year. I am interested in what's there and certainly won't off the wall poo poo because of personal bias for an observer finding some anomaly that needs explanation. Sitchen no doubt has a strong belief system where things came from, but I am interested in finding things and documenting that they are there - who put them there is not in my personal search.. I am interested in the objectivity of anomaly being present.

    from the edited post:

    Quote No. But drinking Koolaid (tainted with LSD), as was done in the 60's, explains why people hallucinate many such delusions that they want to make out of something that has an entirely different explanation...

    Today, people hallucinate by simply "believing" in what they want to be real. Such people have a hard time separating fact from fiction. This, of course, would mean seeing Reptilians or Mantid beings that aren't really there.

    A coil of rope has known to have been mistaken for a snake in various parables. People get addicted to the rush of adrenalin. It is a drug, btw... Hallucinations will come from ingestion of drugs. Drugs, too, come in many forms. A desiring mind is an intoxicated one.
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    It is a metaphor... buying into a 'belief' system, is drinking 'the Koolaid'. It is not an uncommon phrase that has been used. I remember MSM, and some politicians, have used it as a substitute phrase for what they have referred to as "Conspiracy Theorists".

    Quote would you have a list of names?
    Not available. Besides, I don't want to be sent on a holiday...

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    Tellinger's discoveries are well documented and hardly hallucinations.
    Here is his bio from Graham Hancock's website, where he was featured as author of the month:
    Quote Biography
    Michael Tellinger is a scientist, researcher, and regular guest on more than 200 radio shows in the United States, United Kingdom, and Europe, such as Coast to Coast AM with George Noory and the Shirley Maclaine Show. In March 2011 he hosted the Megalithomania Conference in Johannesburg, South Africa, featuring Graham Hancock, Andrew Collins, and Robert Temple. He lives in South Africa.
    www.michaeltellinger.com
    Here is the Introduction and the article that Hancock featured about Tellinger:
    September 2013 AOM: Decoding the Hidden Ruins of Southern Africa – Discovering the True Cradle of Humankind
    Michael Tellinger
    Published 31st August 2013
    Quote Please welcome for September 2013 Author of the Month Michael Tellinger, whose new book African Temples of the Anunnaki -The Lost Technologies of the Gold Mines of Enki, provides Archaeological proof of the advanced civilization on the southern tip of Africa that preceded Sumer and Egypt by 200,000 years. The evidence also shows how these 200,000-year-old sites perfectly match Sumerian descriptions of the gold mining operations of the Anunnaki and the city of Enki.


    Quote The history of southern Africa is one of the great untold stories of the world. It has remained a guarded mystery by traditional knowledge keepers and African shaman for thousands of years. But in 2003 everything changed with the accidental and serendipitous discovery of an ancient stone calendar that caused a chain reaction of events, which led us to decoding one of the greatest missing pieces regarding our human origins and the activity of the Anunnaki on planet Earth.

    Many history books and scholars have told us that the first civilisation on Earth emerged in a land called Sumer, some 6000 years ago. This Sumerian civilisation left behind a detailed account of human activity in millions of clay tablets that continue to reveal critical human behaviour and outlines the relationship between the Anunna gods and the people of Sumer.

    But our archaeological discoveries that began in 2003 suggest that the Sumerians may have inherited much of their knowledge from a civilisation that emerged many thousands of years earlier in southern Africa, already thought to be the cradle of humankind. These discoveries also suggest that the same deities, who have become known as the Anunnaki through the works of Zecharia Sitchin and many others, were also very active in the lives of the people of southern Africa, more than 200,000 years ago.

    In 2003, a strange arrangement of large stones that were neatly planted at the edge of a cliff near the town of Kaapschehoop, South Africa, was spotted by Johan Heine from his aeroplane. After returning to the spot the next day to see the site on the ground, he instantly realised that this was no ordinary, nor natural arrangement of monoliths, and so began a process of measurements and calculations that lasted several years. His meticulous analysis clearly shows that this was an ancient calendar that is aligned with the movements of the sun, solstices and equinoxes, and that we can still mark every day of the year by the movement of the shadows cast on the flat surface of the calendar stone at the centre of the site.

    But as it is with many ancient sites, including Stonehenge, the calendar aspect is not the main purpose of this structure, but merely a crucial feature built into the site. We have discovered deeper and more mysterious functions that only became apparent after many electronic and scientific measurements several years later.

    Through its alignment with the stars and the movement of the sun, this African Stonehenge that I named ‘Adam’s Calendar’ has for the first time created a link to the countless other stone ruins in southern Africa, and suggests that these ruins are much older than we initially thought and forces us to start rethinking the activity by early humans in the so-called “Cradle of Humankind”.

    The discovery of this calendar site was nothing new to Johan Heine, who had already spent at least 15 years photographing mysterious circular stone structures scattered throughout the mountains and valleys of southern Africa. These circular stone ruins have become affectionately known as the “stone circles” and they lie scattered in large clusters throughout the entire sub-continent that includes South Africa, Zimbabwe, Botswana and parts of Mozambique. The complex that links Nelspruit, Waterval Boven, Machadodorp, Carolina, Badplaas, Dullstroom and Lydenburg, and has a radius of approximately 60 kilometres, covering an area larger then modern-day Los Angeles, has emerged as the largest and most mysterious ancient city on Earth.

    The discovery of a bird statue that resembles Horus carved out of dolerite, a small sphinx about 1,5 metres long carved out of the same dolerite rock, a petroglyph of a winged disk, many carvings of Sumerian crosses in circles and an ankh in a radiating circle suggest that the prototype Sumerian and Egyptian civilisations had their origins in southern Africa thousands of years before they emerged in the north.

    After meeting Johan Heine in early 2007, he invited me, along with a large group of the most senior scholars in the field of archaeology, history and geology from several South African universities, to experience the spectacular vista of the ruins from a helicopter, an event that spanned an entire weekend. Though this was an incredible opportunity of a birds-eye-view of the stone circles, on the day of the event, I was the only one to arrive. And so, I alone gained new perspective and became the one that carried the torch of future research and investigation.

    Six years of research by a group of independent scientists and explorers has delivered what may be the crucial missing elements in our understanding of the lives and development of early modern humans. Our discoveries have been noted in two books – Adam’s Calendar and African Temples of The Anunnaki and will be updated in the soon to be released The Lost City of ENKI. But the research has also shown that these stone settlements represent the most mysterious and misunderstood structures found to date. It points to a civilisation that lived at the southern tip of Africa, mining gold for more than 200,000 years, and then completely and suddenly vanished from the radar. We may be looking at the activities of the oldest civilisation on Earth.

    Little did I know that when I named the newly discovered stone calendar “Adam’s Calendar” how close to the truth I would be. This was only revealed to me by the preeminent Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa some 2 years later, when he told me that he was initiated at the site in 1937 as a young shaman, and that this site is known to African knowledge keepers as Inzalo Ye Langa, or “Birthplace of The Sun”, where “heaven mated with mother earth” and where humanity was created by the gods.

    But Credo went even further in his detailed explanation of the deep significance of the site when he explained that it was not just any god of the ancient times that created humanity, but specifically a deity that is know in Zulu as “Enkai”, the same deity know as ENKI in the Sumerian texts. This throws a whole new spin on our understanding of the Anunnaki on Earth and the “fingerprints” they left not only on ancient stone ruins but also the genetic manipulation and creation of the human race. These fingerprints have now been very clearly exposed in our genetic makeup by the brilliant work of William Brown, a molecular biologist and geneticist of the highest order who is part of the research team of Nassim Haramein’s Resonance Project Research Foundation, on the island of Kauai.

    Out of Synch Alignments

    After surveying Adam’s Calendar, it turned out that the north, south, east, west alignment is out by 3 degrees – 17 minutes – 43 sec in an anti-clockwise direction. This may be a critical discovery regarding turbulent times in antiquity because it irrefutably proves that the earth’s north-south alignment today, is not where it was when the calendar was constructed. It irrefutably proves that our planet has undergone a crustal displacement, or something along those lines, taking the north-south pole alignment with it. The theory of Crustal Shift or Crustal Displacement was proposed by scientist Charles Hapgood and strongly supported by Albert Einstein. Adam’s Calendar gives us the geophysical proof that such events did actually occur. What we do not know however at this stage, is when this shift happened.

    Mysterious ancient ruins of southern Africa.

    Until I started my research in 2007, it was generally accepted by scholars that there are about 20,000 ancient stone ruins scattered throughout the mountains of southern Africa. Modern historians have been speculating about the origins of these ruins, often calling them “cattle kraal of little historic importance”. The truth of the matter is that closer scientific inspection paints a completely different and astonishing new picture about the ancient history of these stone ruins. The scientific reality is that we actually know very little about these spectacular ancient ruins and it is a great tragedy that thousands have already been destroyed, and continue to be destroyed through sheer ignorance by power lines, forestry, municipalities, farmers and new housing developments.

    After my personal explorations on foot and by air over the ruins, I confidently estimated the number of ancient stone ruins to be well over 100,000. This figure was confirmed by Prof. Revil Mason in January 2009. But after doing an extensive count on Google Earth and other aerial photographs I concluded that there are at least a staggering 10 million of these circular ruins. The mystery deepened when I found out that they have no doors or entrances in their original form and therefore could not have been dwellings. They were all originally connected by what we now call channels – (which our history books call roads that tribes drove their cattle on) – and are also surrounded and connected to an ongoing grid of agricultural terraces that cover more than 450,000 square kilometres. This clearly points to a vast vanished civilisation who grew crops on a gigantic scale.

    Population Problem

    This immediately poses a huge problem for archaeologists, anthropologists and historians because the accepted history of this part of the planet does not at any time in our past place anywhere nearly enough people here to have built this number of structures. It gets even more complex when you realise that these were not just isolated structures left behind by migrating hunter-gatherers, but a giant complex of circular structures all connected by the strange channels and suspended in a never-ending web of agricultural terraces. If we were to assume that these were dwellings, it would suggest a population of at least 10 million people – which is unimaginable to most of us today.

    Ancient Gold Fields

    It is important to note that the mysterious ruins of southern Africa, which include Great Zimbabwe and millions of similar ruins in that country, also extend into neighbouring areas like Botswana, Namibia, Zambia, Kenya and Mozambique. But why were these ancient people here in the first place? What were they doing?

    The past 200 years has seen a number of explorers write in great detail about these ruins, but their findings have been largely forgotten and their books are out of print. Most of these early explorers write about thousands of ancient mine shafts found in close proximity to these ruins. In fact, most of these mines have been described as gold mines, copper, tin and iron mines. In my personal experience and research I have found at least 25 ancient mine shafts in gold-rich areas and been told about dozens more by farmers all over South Africa. Ancient mines covered by 30 metres of soil have been reported by at least 2 miners in the ‘30’s in the province of Limpopo and more than 75,000 mines have been reported by geological companies in Mpumalanga. It seems that gold mining has been going on here for a lot longer than most of us ever imagined.

    Ann Kritzinger, a geologist from University of Zimbabwe has shown in several papers that many of the ruins in Zimbabwe were most likely for the purpose of extracting and purifying gold – and were not slave pits, animal pits or grain pits as is often suggested by ignorant scholars.

    The presence of Dravidian gold miners is shown in great detail by Dr Cyril Hromnik in his astonishing book “Indo Africa” 1981 – showing in great detail the exploits of the MaKomati people – Hindu Dravidians – who were here in southern Africa mining gold as far back as 2000 years ago and probably even further back in time.

    Sumeria and Abantu

    The links to the Sumerian civilisation in southern Africa simply cannot be ignored or erased. They can even be traced with etymology in the names and origins of indigenous people. The most obvious evidence are the mysterious origins of the word “Abantu”, the name commonly used to describe black South Africans. According to Credo Mutwa, the name is derived from the Sumerian goddess Antu. “Abantu” simply means the children or people of Antu.

    Energy Generation – Ancient knowledge

    Extensive electronic measurements in 2011 have shown that the circular stone ruins are in fact energy generating devices, using the natural sound that emanates from the surface of the Earth, creating electromagnetic fields as a result of the sound amplification. The shape of the circular ruins are all very specific and unique because each circle represents the cymatic pattern of the sound energy as it appears on the surface of the earth at that point. This energy was amplified by a simple understanding of harmonics and utilised in the same way that we generate LASER and SASER beam technology today. Giant magnetron-shaped structures suggest that this was well understood by the ancients. I have measured these spectacular energies and electromagnetic waves and therefore do not hesitate to make these claims. Some of the sound frequencies go into the extremely high Giga hertz levels (over 380 Giga hertz) which are unheard of on Earth today in any normal application.

    The fact that these circles are all connected by the stone channels makes it very clear to any scientist who works with electricity or energy that the stone circle complex is a giant energy generating grid that was most likely used in the mining and processing of gold on a scale unimaginable to us today.

    Dating of The Ruins And Artefacts

    This is a critical aspect of my research and there are several methods that I have had to resort to because we cannot use carbon dating to establish the age of stone. Neither can we assume that pottery or other artefacts found in the ruins were left behind by the architects. The many tools and artefacts that I have collected for my small museum in Waterval Boven are very unique and very mysterious – all made out of stone. They all seem to display strong acoustic properties and I call them “stones that ring like bells”. This was the realisation that led me to discover that sound played a critical role in the building of the ruins and the use of the energies that they create. One of the most obvious techniques I use in determining the possible age of the tools, is the patina growth that forms on the rock. The kind of patina or skin that grows on these artefacts, grows at a very slow rate that is estimated to be about one thousand years per microscopic layer. In other words, by the time that the patina is visible to the naked eye, it is already a few thousand years old. Most of the artefacts in my collection are completely covered in patina several millimetres thick, suggesting that these ancient tools must be well over 100,000 years old or even substantially older.

    In conclusion, we are standing at the threshold of a brand new discovery that will expose great surprises and unveil a great hidden part of human history. My new book UBUNTU Contributionism – A Blueprint For Human Prosperity should be released by the end of September 2013 and I am completing the follow up to African Temples of The Anunnaki that will contain all the latest discoveries and conclusions I have reached regarding the vanished civilisations of southern Africa to date.

    An example of what you will see on google-earth.This is what you will see on google-earth at 25 37’40.90″S / 30 17’57.41E [A]. We are viewing the scene from an altitude of 357 meters.This is not a “special” location — just one we picked at random, within the previously described area. It shows artifacts that are everywhere and we encourage you to search the area with this great internet technology.The circular stone structures are obvious from this view, even though they may not be visible from ground level. Notice that there are many very long roads [B] that connect groups of the circular structures. If you zoom out and follow these “roads” they travel for many miles.The fact that we can see these structures is mainly because natural erosion has blown away the dirt and debris that has covered them for thousands of years. Once exposed to the wind, the rocks are scoured clean and may appear deceptively new.If you look closely at what first appears to be empty land [C], you will notice many faint circles, indicating that even more dwellings lurk below the surface. In reality, the entire area is packed full of these structures and connecting roads.Why has no one notices these before?How the Site was dated

    Once the ruins were examined, the researchers were anxious to place the lost civilization in a historical perspective. The rocks were covered with a patina that looked very old but there were no items sufficient for carbon-14 dating. It was then that a chance discovery revealed the age of the site, and sent a chill down the spine of archaeologists and historians!

    Dating the site:
    Finding the remains of a large community, with as many as 200,000 people living and working together, was a major discovery in itself. But dating the site was a problem. The heavy patina on the rock walls suggested the structures were extremely old, but the science of dating patina is just being developed and is still controversial. Carbon-14 dating of such things as burnt wood introduces the possibility that the specimens could be from recent grass fires which are common in the area.The breakthrough came quite unexpectedly. As Tellinger describes it:
    "“Johan Heine discovered Adam’s Calendar in 2003, quite by accident. He was on route to find one of his pilots who crashed his plane on the edge of the cliff. Next to the crash site Johan noticed a very strange arrangement of large stones sticking out of the ground. While rescuing the injured pilot from about 20 metres down the side of the cliff, Johan walked over to the monoliths and immediately realised that they were aligned to the cardinal points of Earth — north, south, east and west. There were at least 3 monoliths aligned towards the sunrise, but on the west side of the aligned monoliths there was a mysterious hole in the ground — something was missing.After weeks and months of measuring and observations, Johan concluded that it was perfectly aligned with the rise and fall of the Sun. He determined the solstices and the equinoxes. But the mysterious hole in the ground remained a big puzzle. One day, while contemplating the reason for the hole, the local horse trail expert, Christo, came riding by. He quickly explained to Johan that there was a strange shaped stone which had been removed from the spot some time ago. Apparently it stood somewhere near the entrance to the nature reserve.

    After an extensive search, Johan found the anthropomorphic (humanoid shape) stone. It was intact and proudly placed with a plaque stuck to it. It had been used by the Blue Swallow foundation to commemorate the opening of the Blue Swallow reserve in 1994. The irony is that it was removed from the most important ancient site found to date and mysteriously returned to the reserve — for slightly different reasons."



    The exact location of the calendar is listed on www.makomati.com. The first calculations of the age of the calendar were made based on the rise of Orion, a constellation known for its three bright stars forming the “belt” of the mythical hunter.The Earth wobbles on its axis and so the stars and constellations change their angle of presentation in the night sky on a cyclical basis. This rotation, called the precession completes a cycle about every 26,000 years. By determining when the three stars of Orion’s belt were positioned flat (horizontal) against the horizon, we can estimate the time when the three stones in the calendar were in alignment with these conspicuous stars.

    The first rough calculation was at least 25,000 years ago. But new and more precise measurements kept increasing the age. The next calculation was presented by a master archaeoastronomer who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of ridicule by the academic fraternity. His calculation was also based on the rise of Orion and suggested an age of at least 75,000 years. The most recent and most acurate calculation, done in June 2009, suggests an age of at least 160,000 years, based on the rise of Orion — flat on the horizon — but also on the erosion of dolerite stones found at the site.

    Some pieces of the marker stones had been broken off and sat on the ground, exposed to natural erosion. When the pieces were put back together about 3 cm of stone had already been worn away. These calculation helped assess the age of the site by calculating the erosion rate of the dolerite.
    Who made the metropolis? Why?
    It would seem that humans have always valued gold. It is even mentioned in the Bible, describing the Garden of Eden’s rivers:Genesis 2:11 — The name of the first [river] is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. South Africa is known as the largest gold producing country of the world. The largest gold producing area of the world is Witwatersrand, the same region where the ancient metropolis is found. In fact nearby Johannesburg, one of the best known cities of South Africa, is also named “Egoli” which means the city of gold.

    GOLD MINING — HOW LONG AGO? Is there evidence that mining took place, in southern Africa, during the Old Stone Age? Archaeological studies indicate that it indeed was so.Realizing that sites of abandoned ancient mines may indicate where gold could be found, South Africa’s leading mining corporation, the Anglo-American Corporation, in the 1970s engaged archaeologists to look for such ancient mines. Published reports (Optima) detail the discovery in Swaziland and other sites in South Africa of extensive mining areas with shafts to depths of fifty feet. Stone objects and charcoal remains established dates of 35,000, 46,000, and 60,000 B.C. for these sites. The archaeologists and anthropologists who joined in dating the finds believed that mining technology was used in south- ern Africa “during much of the period subsequent to 100,000 B.C.”In September 1988, a team of international physicists came to South Africa to verify the age of human habitats in Swaziland and Zululand. The most modern techniques indicated an age of 80,000 to 115,000 years.Regarding the most ancient gold mines of Monotapa in southern Zimbabwe, Zulu legends hold that they were worked by “artificially produced flesh and blood slaves created by the First People.” These slaves, the Zulu legends recount, “went into battle with the Ape-Man” when “the great war star appeared in the sky” (see Indaba My Children, by the Zulu medicine man Credo Vusamazulu Mutwa). [Genesis Revisited]
    It seems highly probable that the ancient metropolis was established because of its proximity to the largest supply of gold on the planet. But why would ancient people work so hard to mine gold? You can’t eat it. It’s too soft to use for tool making. It isn’t really useful for anything except ornaments and its physical beauty is on a par with other metals like copper or silver. Exactly why was gold so important to early homo sapiens?

    To explore the answer we need to look at the period of history in question — 160,000 to 200,000 years BCE — and learn what was happening on planet Earth.

    What were humans like 160,000 years ago? Modern humans, homo sapiens, can trace our ancestry back through time to a point where our species evolved from other, more primitive, hominids. Scientists do not understand why this new type of human suddenly appeared, or how the change happened, but we can trace our genes back to a single female that is known as “Mitochondrial Eve”.Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca) [Right: An artist’s rendition] is the name given by researchers to the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living person is derived from this one female individual. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived at different times.Mitochondrial Eve is believed to have lived between 150,000 to 250,000 years BP, probably in East Africa, in the region of Tanzania and areas to the immediate south and west. Scientists speculate that she lived in a population of between perhaps 4000 to 5000 females capable of producing offspring at any given time. If other females had offspring with the evolutionary changes to their DNA we have no record of their survival. It appears that we are all descendants of this one human female.Mitochondrial Eve would have been roughly contemporary with humans whose fossils have been found in Ethiopia near the Omo River and at Hertho. Mitochondrial Eve lived significantly earlier than the out of Africa migration which might have occurred some 60,000 to 95,000 years ago.[right] The region in Africa where one can find the greatest level of mitochondrial diversity (green) and the region anthropologists postulated the most ancient division in the human population began to occur (light brown). The ancient metropolis in located in this latter (brown) region which also corresponds to the estimated age when the genetic changes suddenly happened.Could this be a coincidence?

    Ancient Sumerian history describes the ancient metropolis and its inhabitants! I’ll be honest with you. This next part of the story is difficult to write. It’s so shocking that the average person will not want to believe it. If you are like me, you’ll want to do the research yourself, then allow some time for the facts to settle in your mind.We are often made to believe that the Egyptians — the Pharoahs and pyramids — are where our known history begins. The oldest dynasties go back some 3200 years BP. That’s a long time ago. But the Sumerian civilization, in what is now Iraq, is much older. What’s more, we have translated many of their history tablets, written in cuneiform and earlier scripts so we know a lot about their history and legends.

    he seal image [above] depicts the legend of the “Great Flood” which consumed mankind. Many Sumerian legends are strikingly similar to Genesis. Like Genesis, the Sumerian legend,Atrahasis, tells the story of the creation of modern humans — not by a loving God — but by beings from another planet who needed “slave workers” to help them mine gold on their extra-planetary expedition!

    I warned that this is difficult to believe, but please keep reading.Who made the metropolis? Why?
    This story, the Atrahasis, comes from an early Babylonian version of about 1 BC, but it certainly dates back to Sumerian times. It combines familiar Sumerian motifs of the creation of mankind and the subsequent flood — just like Genesis.The story starts out with the “gods” — beings from a planet called Nibiru — digging ditches and mining for gold as part of an expeditionary team. Modern humans (homo sapiens) did not exist yet; only primitive hominids lived on Earth. There were two groups of “gods”, the worker class and the ruling class (i.e. officers). The worker gods had built the infrastructure as well as toiled in the gold mines and, after thousands of years, the work was apparently too much for them. The gods had to dig out the canals
    Had to clear channels,
    the lifelines of the land,
    The gods dug out the Tigris river bed
    And then they dug out the Euphrates. –(Dalley 9, Atrahasis) After 3,600 years of this work, the gods finally begin to complain. They decide to go on strike, burning their tools and surrounding the chief god Enlil’s “dwelling” (his temple). Enlil’s vizier, Nusku, gets Enlil out of bed and alerts him to the angry mob outside. Enlil is scared. (His face is described as being “sallow as a tamarisk.”) The vizier Nusku advises Enlil to summon the other great gods, especially Anu (sky-god) and Enki (the clever god of the fresh waters). Anu advises Enlil to ascertain who is the ringleader of the rebellion. They send Nusku out to ask the mob of gods who is their leader. The mob answers, “Every single one of us gods has declared war!” (Dalley 12, Atrahasis).Since the upper-class gods now see that the work of the lower-class gods “was too hard,” they decide to sacrifice one of the rebels for the good of all. They will take one god, kill him, and make mankind by mixing the god’s flesh and blood with clay:

    Belit-ili the womb-goddess is present,
    Let the womb-goddess create offspring,
    And let man bear the load of the gods! (Dalley 14-15, Atrahasis)

    After Enki instructs them on purification rituals for the first, seventh and fifteenth of every month, the gods slaughter Geshtu-e, “a god who had intelligence” (his name means “ear” or “wisdom”) and form mankind from his blood and some clay. After the birth goddess mixes the clay, all the gods troop by and spit on it. Then Enki and the womb-goddess take the clay into “the room of fate,” where the womb-goddesses were assembled.

    He [Enki] trod the clay in her presence;
    She kept reciting an incantation,
    For Enki, staying in her presence, made her recite it.
    When she had finished her incantation,
    She pinched off fourteen pieces of clay,
    And set seven pieces on the right,
    Seven on the left.
    Between them she put down a mud brick. (Dalley 16, Atrahasis)

    The creation of man seems to be described as a type of cloning and what we would today consider in vitro fertilization.The result was a hybrid or “evolved human” with enhanced intellect who could perform the physical duties of the worker gods and also take care of the needs of all the gods.

    We are told, in other texts, that the expedition came for gold and that great quantities were mined and shipped off the planet. The community in South Africa was called “Abzu” and was the prime location of the mining operation.

    Since these events appear to coincide with the dates of “Mitochondrial Eve” (i.e. 150,000 to 250,000 BP) and appear to be located in the richest gold mining region on the planet (Abzu), some researchers are thinking that the Sumerian legends may, in fact, be based on historical events.

    According to the same texts, once the mining expedition ended it was decided that the human population should be allowed to perish in a flood which was predicted by the atronomer of the “gods.” Apparently, the cyclical passage of the home planet of the gods, Nibiru, was going to bring it close enough to the orbit of Earth that its gravity would cause the oceans to rise and flood the land, putting an end to the hybrid species — homo sapiens.

    According to the story, one of the “gods” had sympathy for a particular human, Zuisudra, and warned him to construct a boat to ride out the flood. This eventually became the basis for the story of Noah in the book of Genesis.

    Did this really happen? The only other explanation is to imagine that the Sumerian legends, acknowledging life on other planets and human cloning, were extraordinary science-fiction. This in itself would be amazing. But we now have evidence that the mining city, Abzu, is real and that it existed in the same era as the sudden evolution of hominids to homo sapiens.
    His work is highly visible and available online at many different excellent websites. See:
    https://internationalresearchsociety...res-of-africa/
    http://www.viewzone.com/adamscalendar.html
    https://www.ancientaliensmap.com/loc...can-gold-mines
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    In Regard to Michael Tellinger...

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    5/26/2013

    Yesterday I mentioned how former Blondie bassist Gary Lachman is on a quest to rehabilitate the occult as a viable alternative to “materialism.” In reading this month’s Fortean Times, I discovered that he is not the only musician questing after an alternative to science. An advertisement informs me that South African musician and actor Michael Tellinger has adopted Zecharia Sitchin’s ideas as truth and has a new book called African Temples of the Anunnaki, a follow-up to 2005’s Slave Species of God, which he advertised as the culmination of twenty-five years of study of… wait for it… Zecharia Sitchin.

    Tellinger’s ideas are unsupportable even by the loose standards of ancient astronaut idiocy. On the home page for Slave Species, Tellinger asks “Why do all mythologies have the same group of GODS?” I imagine this will come as a bit of shock to the Aztec that their gods are identical to those of China and Greece. Even within the Indo-European family of religions, we are hard pressed to find identical gods; Odin, Frigg, Freya, and Thor do not precisely match the Greek gods; Freya, for example, has aspects the Greeks divided among Aphrodite, Athena, and Persephone. Even two myth systems we today think of as virtually identical—Greece and Rome—have challenging difficulties, not least the startling difference between the bloodthirsty berserker Ares and the beneficent farming warrior Mars.

    Again, Tellinger asks: “Why is the FLYING SERPENT the creator god in all mythologies?” Do I even need to say that it is not? Without getting into the question of whether Tellinger means the creator of the universe or just of humanity, it should be easy to think of instances where this is not true: the three Abrahamic monotheistic faiths (God as creator); Babylonian religion (chaos to Tiamat to Marduk); Greek mythology (chaos, with Prometheus making humans); etc. etc. Even among the Aztec, the feathered serpent was not the creator god; that honor went to Ometecuhtli/Omecihuatl, the self-created dual god, progenitor of Quetzalcoatl.

    Ungrammatically, he asks “Why has humankind been so obsessed with GOLD since the earliest of time? Why has GOD been so obsessed with GOLD since Genesis?” Tellinger believes that the aliens created humans to mine gold around 250,000 BCE, so I imagine this must be the “earliest of time.” However, archaeology has uncovered no evidence of the use of gold before roughly the third millennium BCE. [Update: I am wrong here; the oldest known gold is from 4600 BCE at Varna; which is what I get for looking up facts in a book published before 2006, when the Varna treasure was dated by radiocarbon testing of associated graves.] (You’ll often read on gold buying websites that in 3100 BCE the Egyptian pharaoh Menes recorded the value of gold, the oldest ever effort to quantify its value, but this dubious fact is derived from much later Greek accounts; no 3100 BCE artifact exists making this claim.) Further, many cultures historically had no interest in gold, including most of prehistoric North America and Australia. Nor is there much evidence for God being obsessed with gold “since Genesis.” In Genesis, the first mention of gold comes at Gen. 2:11-12, where it is listed as one of the fine products of the land around the river Pison, sometimes identified with the Phasis, the river that ran through the land of the Golden Fleece in Greek myth. Otherwise, there is very little about gold in Genesis except for standard listings alongside other forms of wealth like sheep, and nothing about it from God himself.

    His new book claims that rough stone circles in South Africa were built to house “Tesla-like technology” designed to carve tunnels to the gold deposits at deep in the earth’s core. (Earth’s natural gold deposits are near the core due to the density of gold; the gold we mine near the surface traveled here by meteor.)

    But The Fortean Times also had an honest-to-goodness gem of a thought from Steve Moore in his article “The Real Arthur?” He was speaking of books that attempt to historicize the mythic British king, but in so doing he makes a much broader point that comes very close to my own work establishing how closely “alternative” history is to speculative fiction:
    I’d suggest that, rather than writing these books off as nonsense, it might be more useful to regard them as ‘modern romances’. They purport to be factual while having virtually no factual basis; but once again, it’s the narrative that is important, providing as it does a key to ancient mysteries and a discovery of something wonderful. I’d go further and suggest the modern romance label could be applicable across a broad range of fortean topics, from the ‘Holy Blood’ literature to ancient astronauts, crashed saucer retrievals, alien abductions… and so on, once more, ad infinitum. Perhaps it’s not really important whether these notions are ‘true’ or not. Instead, these are narratives that we want to be true, and so they tell us something about ourselves, our desire to escape from mundane reality, and our wish for the wondrous. They are, quite simply, romantic … and that, no doubt, is the greatest part of their appeal.
    That is as good a reason as any why Giorgio Tsoukalos, David Hatcher Childress, Scott Wolter, and others describe themselves as the “Real Life Indiana Jones” and continue to embrace ideas long after every objective measure has demonstrated their untruth.

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    Thanks, turiya, for introducing me to Michael S. Heiser....had never heard of him!

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    Colavito is basically a professional skeptic. That doesn't really recommend him to me at all.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jason_Colavito
    Quote Jason Colavito is a freelance writer who enjoys writing (about) horror fiction as much as dissecting the claims of various ancient astronauts proponents. If you've watched the original 2009 Ancient Aliens on the History Channel, you may have caught a glimpse of his article Charioteer of the Gods around the 8:40 mark, which was presented as an example of the reactions to von Däniken and his buddies. (The article itself traces the origin of the "ancient contact with aliens" idea back to H.P. Lovecraft. It was published in the Skeptic magazine in 2004 (volume 10, number 4) and its full text is available online at Skeptic.com and Jason Colavito.com)
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    Quote Colavito attended Auburn High School, in Auburn, New York and graduated summa cum laude from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York where he received a bachelor of arts degree in anthropology and journalism in 2003.[2][6] In the spring of 2002, Colavito and two of his classmates from a television journalism class at Ithaca College interviewed ancient astronaut theorist Giorgio A. Tsoukalos in the living room of Tsoukalos's Ithaca home.[7]

    Colavito's work has largely focused on debunking "alternative archaeology"[1] through his website Lost Civilizations Uncovered, his newsletter The Skeptical Xenoarchaeologist, books and the media. His work has been cited in The Huffington Post[8][9] and on the History Channel.[2][10]

    In 2005, Colavito authored The Cult of Alien Gods: H. P. Lovecraft and Extraterrestrial Pop Culture, published by Prometheus Books. In the book, Colavito explores the influences of H. P. Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos on the popular works of Erich von Däniken (Chariots of the Gods?) and Graham Hancock, as well as its overall influence on "extraterrestrial pop culture".[11] Through his website, Colavito also offers out-of-print works about alternative history, the occult, and speculative fiction.[12]
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    Colavito is basically a professional skeptic.
    If he's a professional skeptic, then that means he makes a business - makes an income - out of it. If he is making a living out of being a skeptic, then he is obviously good at it. Nothing wrong in it.... Got to be good at something...

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    Thanks, turiya, for introducing me to Michael S. Heiser....had never heard of him!
    Here's another one, Foxie Loxie... Chris White - gets into Sitchin @29:40...

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    People make a living from all kinds of activities including crime.
    Being good at something doesn't necessarily mean that what is being done is good.
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    Very interesting and informative conversation going on here. I'd like to make a comment on the Sumarian picture depicting the flood. They are wearing pointed Hats! I was reading an article recently about head binding being a world wide practice more common in past times. This, of course, was done to infants to elongate the skull and was a sign of high stature common to the ruling class. Its theorized that this was to copy advanced beings that ruled over the people that naturally had this shape of skull, you know the story. From this custom and reverence for the pointed head, people began wearing pointed hats to show their high status. Don't know where the dunce hat comes in with that. The pointed hat worn by a person celebrating their birthday was given as one example. Maybe another hint for those alien rulers given by the Sumarians.
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    People make a living from all kinds of activities including crime.
    Being good at something doesn't necessarily mean that what is being done is good.
    It appears you want to make a good skeptic into being a criminal.

    The best criminals, you will never know about. Because really good criminals don't get caught. And no one knows whether they are a criminal.

    If I had a child that wanted to be a criminal, I would tell him that if that is what he wanted to do, then do it the best you can, which means - don't get caught! Then, I would never hear about him doing any crime. He would then understand, that he would not get any help from me, if he did get caught.

    Be the best you can be. We live in a dichotomy.
    Everyone should be good at something.
    If you are a beggar, then be the best beggar that you can be.
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    The best thing that can happen to a criminal might be to get caught.
    He would no longer be able to do as much harm to others, thus reducing his own load of negative karma, and might begin to reform by recognizing there could be a better way.
    He might also be exposed to some wiser and more positive mentoring...
    Each breath a gift...
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