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    This sure seems authentic, but frankly I'm now holding my opinion on everything for the time being.

    This is a cabbie with her camera and mic on, at first casually sitting in the cue waiting for a customer at Mandalay. Keep in mind that she is talking regularly to dispatch whose side of the conversation you don't hear. The sound of gunfire starts and her observations are very interesting. She is advised to drive away for safety and in a little bit some fleeing concertgoers jump in her cab. It's all recorded until they get out.

    <<the link I just finished watching was gone when I tried to post it here. This is another link to the same thing that doesn't seem to show as a youtube video, but will take you to some page where it plays....for now>>

    It was titled:
    UNREAL & Unseen footage Vegas Mandalay bay.... wait for it - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/435CC8cFIEM
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    The real evidence is disappearing at a rapid rate - the vid I was watching went down as I was watching it! I really don't think "they" are going to be able to keep the lid on this!

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    The real evidence is disappearing at a rapid rate - the vid I was watching went down as I was watching it! I really don't think "they" are going to be able to keep the lid on this!
    A few hours ago in this Youtube video, one of the people I subscribe to on Youtube, jsnip4, explains that a video he posted about this Las Vegas shooting a day ago was taken down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6F48q0tn74

    Jsnip4 goes on to explain that Youtube would remove any video that posted graphic violence, and so when he wanted to share a video showing actually wounded victims a day ago, he did not upload it to Youtube, but only uploaded a short video recommending to his listeners that they follow the link he provided to the video over on LiveLeak. Youtube took down even that video of jsnip4, not allowing him to link to the other site for that video.

    ===

    Part of the modus operandi of the minions of the elite bastards who are charged with pulling off such operations as this appears to include deliberately getting out a variety of confusing and conflicting narratives, through various means, including main stream media, alternative media, and including both supporting, rebutting, leaking, and suppressing such various narratives.

    It becomes a real sh*t storm playing on our various emotions and biases and blind spots, both individual and collective.

    ===

    My current guess (without having done any serious investigation) is that there were multiple, trained and directed, shooters with highly lethal automatic weapons, and that this is a major "false flag" event, meaning the lies, half-truths, secrets, cover-ups, and psy-ops will be thicker than fleas on a mangy dog, for many, many, years to come.

    So, for example, some of the conspiracy theory minded people, and some of the not so inclined people, that I read or listen to (Jim Stone and Bombard's Body Language, in this case) are both concluding that the absence of videos on Youtube showing the wounded means something. Jim Stone figures it means that there really were only few or no wounded or killed. Bombard figures that it means that the talk about it not being a real, lethal, shooting event is bogus conspiracy talk because she can read in the body language of some of the witnesses she sees being interviewed that they really did witness something horrific and bloody ... so she (from what I can tell) tends to throw out all the conspiracy talk.

    In short, the selective suppression of news by controlled media (and Youtube certainly is controlled media ... owned and operated by American intelligence's best buddy, Google) ends up supporting a variety of more main stream or more conspiracy theory minded, interpretations as to what really went down.

    ... as I said above, a real sh*t storm obscuring the truth and playing on our various individual and collective emotions, beliefs, and confusions.

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    "They" do not expect to cover this up ... not entirely. Rather they expect to have confusion, controversy and conflicting views abound, for a generation to come.
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    These police dispatch transcript excerpts seems to be evidence for multiple shooters.... at a lot more hotels than has been reported too.

    I think these are two different sections of the same dispatch starting and ending at different times, they both have parts the other doesn't.



    15:10 We're getting from civilians that there might have been three shooters.

    15:18 We've interviewed multiple people < > concert venue and it's on the north side of Hacienda and the East Side of Las Vegas Boulevard saying that there are multiple people shot or were shooting in the concert venue.

    18:03 We've just spoken to security at Mandalay they say they have shots fired on 29 and the 32nd level

    19:15 We might need to switch these channels. We're going to need a dedicated one for this 32nd floor I think. He shot down the hall and hit a security guard.
    ....pause, continues....
    19:23 We have a four man team up here and we have another element coming to us so we're going to have < > on the 32nd floor. We will need the 29th floor. It sounds like it's confirmed that there are at least two shooters with fully automatic weapons.

    19:54 Get somebody with a camera and see if we can get cameras watching that 29th and 32nd floor

    20:44 Please advise all units to have their vehicles locked. People are going in trying to grab shotguns.



    45:03 (dispatch).......Confirming the Mandalay Bay and Ali Baba and Giles are the 2 shooting locations. Do we have a third? (NOTE: Ali Baba and Giles are nearby street names.)

    1:04:20 (dispatch) There's one that came in at 23:06 hours second hand advisor that there was a shooter at the front desk of New York New York.

    1:04:35 (officer) Right outside New York New York

    1:04:36 (dispatch) And then approximately 150 subjects sheltered in place inside the kitchen area there.... and two shots were fired inside casino floor..... and there's several subjects down at New York New York in Zoomanity and being taken towards the < >.

    1:05:13 (dispatch) If there's not already strike teams en route send two strike teams en route. They need to advise their call sign and we need updates as soon as they get there to New York New York...break.

    1:06:54 (dispatch) Ok now I'm getting information of an active shooter at Tropicana

    1:07:14 (dispatch) Please be advised that there is now an active shooter at the Tropicana, active shooter at Tropicana.

    1:07:17 (dispatch) Be advised we getting multiple calls of active shooters in multiple locations may or may not be diversion < >.

    1:12:03 (officer) < > citizen fired two shots in the park area of New York New York.

    1:12:11 (dispatch) Copy be advised two shots fired in a park area of New York New York. Now they're also saying one at RAF.

    1:12:23 (officer) The park at New York is clear. Negative shots fired.

    1:13:50 (officer) I got medics reporting that they're getting shot at in front of the Tropicana.

    1:14:00 (dispatch) We have a strike team available send them to the Tropicana.

    1:14:12 (officer) ....Strike team already en route to the Tropicana

    <<<<< a bunch of statements about 'suspect down in Room 135 Floor 32', then more gunfire is reported...>>>

    1:17:05 (officer followed by dispatch repeat) Please be advised another explosive breach going off Room 135 Mandalay Bay floor 32

    1:17:15 (dispatch) We have reports of shots fired from the Tropicana Hotel

    1:19:35 (dispatch) Now we're getting reports of shots fired at Caesars and the Bellagio.

    1:21:11 (dispatch) Do we have any updates on either Bellagio or Caesars to have strike teams en route there?

    1:21:18 (officer) We have a guy with a gun here..

    1:21:22 (dispatch) What's your location?

    1:21:25 (officer) Paris.

    1:21:42 (officer) Is that reported or confirmed?

    1:22:45 (officer) We got people running and security trying to point out where this gunman is and we can't find him.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by waves (here)
    This sure seems authentic, but frankly I'm now holding my opinion on everything for the time being.

    This is a cabbie with her camera and mic on, at first casually sitting in the cue waiting for a customer at Mandalay. Keep in mind that she is talking regularly to dispatch whose side of the conversation you don't hear. The sound of gunfire starts and her observations are very interesting. She is advised to drive away for safety and in a little bit some fleeing concertgoers jump in her cab. It's all recorded until they get out.

    <<the link I just finished watching was gone when I tried to post it here. This is another link to the same thing that doesn't seem to show as a youtube video, but will take you to some page where it plays....for now>>

    It was titled:
    UNREAL & Unseen footage Vegas Mandalay bay.... wait for it - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/435CC8cFIEM
    There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.
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    There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.
    One comment says: "I was a proponent on the full auto conversion hypothesis, sometimes the gunfire resembled something along the lines of a m240b, but hearing it from this vantage point, it does sound exactly like bump firing across different rifles, both standing and on a bipod system of sorts."

    Now if it was two guys with an M60 it would be even more disturbing to think about, but who knows what's the real agenda behind these kind of events. Awful nevertheless.

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    I really appreciate the effort of project avalon members to analyze the recent massacre incident. The information initially forthcoming indicated the accused shooter worked for Lockheed-Martin in the past. This raises all kinds of red flags a la deep state connections. Just thinking out loud here. cheers tim

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Last night I saw an excellent video about the Las Vegas shootings which showed that there could have been shooters located at two other hotels as well as the Mandalay, but a fourth site was atop two TANKS 100 ft. in the air and one half the distance away from the crowd as the hotel shooters would have been. The above videos definitely revealed more than one shooter and more than one location. Two windows were broken at the Mandalay, suggesting two shooters there. The close shots, I believe, came from the TANKS which were only 500 ft. away and produced the loudest shots.

    A young woman overheard another woman saying that everyone there would be killed. This was 45 minutes before the shots were fired. This definitely suggests a plot involving several people and not a reclusive lone gunman.

    Two separate reports were different regarding the shooter being shot. One said the shooter was killed by police and the other said that he had shot himself. If the latter occurred out of sight of the police before they arrived, it suggests that he was shot by the other shooter at the Mandalay so that he could not talk about the plot and who else was involved. He was a Patsy. A report said a large sum of money was deposited at his bank in the Phillipines (for doing the job?).

    I think Alex Jones has nailed what this is all about, beside an excuse to ban guns. He points out that it is to destroy Donald Trump's business interests in Las Vegas and to destroy him politically. This is a Mafia plot of the hotel owners of the city in league with the NWO, etc.

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Found this on Before it's News...not sure of the original source...I'm sure the experts here will find it.

    Photo of a Dead Stephen Paddock? – LVMPD Leaked Intel- Stephen Pollack Was an FBI Agent Supplying Arms to ISIS Inside the USA

    http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternati...k-3559159.html

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    Found this which ties in with the above piece of info... Was he really an arms dealer....?

    Alternative media sleuths across the world are trying to get to the bottom of the Las Vegas shooting and the following video, made available by Twitter user Red Pill, is going to lead to even more questions.

    We won’t put words into Eric Paddock’s mouth. You decide what he intended to say:

    “Steve had no help… Steve didn’t take help… it did not take a village for Steve…”

    “Steve was an arm…”

    **Eric Paddock Realizes Mistake**

    “I’m sorry… Please don’t…. I’m using a colloquial term…”

    There are two likely possibilities for what Eric Paddock meant to say.

    First, shooter Stephen Paddock recently wired $100,000 to the Philippines, a country known for an illegal arms trade that in 2014 led to the arrest of a Californian Senator. Thus, is it possible Eric Paddock meant to say, “Steve was an arms dealer,” prior to cutting himself off?

    Or, perhaps, he intended to say, “Steve was an army of one,” a slogan used by the U.S. Army in recruiting commercials.

    You decide:

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    This is a more coherent report & summery of the segments I posted on #199


    Former SEAL Team Commander: Vegas Appears To Be Political Operation



    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Former Navy SEAL Craig Sawyer joins Alex Jones live via
    Skype to break down how the tragic shooting in Las Vegas
    is now being used as a political weapon to divide the American citizenry.

    ==================================================
    ==================================================




    Las Vegas shooting: Paddock's girlfriend denies knowledge of attack



    US police have said the woman, a former casino employee, was living with Paddock
    in Nevada .The girlfriend of the Las Vegas gunman who shot dead 58 people on
    Sunday has said she had no idea what her "kind, caring, quiet" partner was
    planning.Marilou Danley's comments came hours before police suggested Stephen
    had been living "a secret life".

    read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41504063

    =================================================
    =================================================

    Things still don't make sense his girlfriend say he found a 'cheap' ticket to the
    Philippines , when he is supposed to be a generous millionaire. No harm in being
    thrifty but why stress 'cheap ticket' .......

    Stephen Paddock’s girlfriend thought him ‘kind & caring’



    Marilou Danley, girlfriend of the Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, said through
    her attorney that the shooting came as a complete surprise to her, while it has
    emerged that Paddock was prescribed valium in the past. RT America’s Simone Del
    Rosario joins “News with Ed” to discuss the latest developments from the ongoing
    investigation into the Las Vegas Massacre.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Robert Steele is certain that his Las Vegas massacre is a Zionist False Flag, as he explains in the following interview, and on this page on his web site that can be reached at the URL https://tinyurl.com/LasVegasFalseFlag.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Folks,
    It is clear to many of us that this was an orchestrated event, and I now believe that the guy who made the following video about the shooting being a harvest ritual resonates with me.

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    Quote Posted by neutronstar (here)
    There was definitely at least 2 shooters. It sounded like a 240B machine gun belt fed. That was no AR 15. You can google the two sounds. That would explain the mass casualties.
    One comment says: "I was a proponent on the full auto conversion hypothesis, sometimes the gunfire resembled something along the lines of a m240b, but hearing it from this vantage point, it does sound exactly like bump firing across different rifles, both standing and on a bipod system of sorts."

    Now if it was two guys with an M60 it would be even more disturbing to think about, but who knows what's the real agenda behind these kind of events. Awful nevertheless.

    I don't care if you can turn an AR 15 into a fully automatic. The sound is not the same, each type of gun has it's own unique sound. The gun in the video you posted doesn't sound like the gun in the video of the cab driver. It sounds like a heavy machine gun. The sound was identical to the sound a 240B machine gun.

    Although listening to the video on Alex Jones above, that one sounds much different so who knows.

    Like all of these events it gets really confusing.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)

    "They" do not expect to cover this up ... not entirely. Rather they expect to have confusion, controversy and conflicting views abound, for a generation to come.
    It may happen a lot sooner ... I wonder if the very conflicted nature of "this beast" is what will create the uprising/civil war the Cabal so desperately wants to forment? (not the event itself - or any that follow), but the blatantly obvious lies and coverup after the fact??)

    (Maybe President Trump's next Tweet should be:

    "Is this a false flag? I'm going to find out! Make America HONEST Again!"

    - with apologies to Robert David Steele)


    LOCK. THEM. UP!
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Bump fire M16



    240b cyclic fire:


    compare to:


    Certainly sounds like multiple shooters, but I also don't think it sounds a 240b based on the rate of fire; that sounds like it could easily be an AR-15 at high fire rates (a bit faster than a 240b, which tops out at 600 RPM (rounds per min); M16's can hit 900+ RPM)
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    You can tell Mark Steyn has been looking at the alternate theories
    and touches on the more interesting questions of was he more than
    met the eye ? Did he have a accomplice ? what was on the note ?
    was he planning to get away ? Why was his media profile so clean ?
    If he cracked under medication how could he plan and carry out this
    operation so ruthlessly ? He asks a lot in a five min segment and of
    course there is no time for a proper debate just sound bites.....


    Steyn: Vegas shooter's social media profile 'weirdly blank'



    Published on 4 Oct 2017
    Radio host and author sounds off on the latest revelations - or lack thereof -
    about gunman Stephen Paddock in the Las Vegas massacre and talk about
    his leading a 'secret life.' #Tucker

    ===================================================
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    Robert Steele was on the Ritchie Allen show as well, he is only speculating


    Robert Steele "As A CIA Officer I Ran False Flag Ops. Las Vegas Is A False Flag!"

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    Published on 5 Oct 2017
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Alex may be angling at the bigger picture.. ie, that there will be more massacres like this one leading up to a November "event" (...I presume that to be an attempt at all out civil war, as threatened by the Cabal/Nazi/psychopath, George Soros - who I suspect is involved with this tragedy) -

    (... Jim Stone believes Mossad may be involved, apparently,... News of this appeared in an Israeli newspaper before it happened...)

    http://82.221.129.208/.zy2.html

    EXTRACT:
    Quote How would Israel know this, when it happened in Vegas at 10:08 vegas time, and they posted this a little after 3AM vegas time (originally) only to have it get repeated by another paper at 4:20 AM vegas time and get deleted in the original paper? How would the police investigators connect the dots in the dead of night before 3 AM (only to have that news make it back to Israel,) go through the publishing delays, and get originally posted at 3 AM?
    Guess who owns Mandalay in Vegas? Soros recon alert – Soros “shorted” MGM.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...17_soros_fund/

    Excerpt: SOROS RECON ALERT: On August 14, 2017 Soros Fund Management, LLC placed $42,242,000 of put options on MGM Resorts. Who owns Mandalay Bay? MGM RESORTS. Soros shorted MGM.

    Hedge funds are required to file a 13f which discloses the hedge funds positions. George “Soros’ hedge fund initiated 42mm worth of put options on MGM (basically betting the stock will fall in the short term). Soros bought well over 1mm shares of stock given it traded around 35-40 when the trade was initiated.

    More at link

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    During a lengthy press conference update on the investigation into the Las Vegas massacre, Clark County Sheriff Lombardo expressed his belief that gunman Stephen Paddock had to have help at some point but sarcastically says "maybe he’s a super guy."

    Clearly showing the strains of being awake under serious stress for the last 72 hours, the sheriff explained...

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...s-hes-superman

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Shots fired at the Vegas Bellagio the same night as the concert attack? YouTube took down the video.

    by Jon Rappoport Oct 5, 2017

    Yesterday, I posted a video reporting shots fired through the front door of the Vegas Bellagio Hotel on the night of the concert attack.

    My, my. YouTube took the video down. We found a new link. Don’t know how long it’ll work.

    Why did YouTube take down the video? On what grounds? It was truthful and therefore disturbing? The video was taken inside the Bellagio by a guest, and she speaks at length about the shooting incident.

    I guess that’s too real. A new standard for violating the rules: “It’s too real, take it down.”

    Or: “It’s obviously fake, it must be, because no approved media outlets reported that shooting, but it looks too real so it’s a great fake, take it down.”

    Clearly, another shooting in Vegas around the time of the concert shooting would open up the door to the idea of a planned multiple attack, involving more than just a “lone crazy man at the Mandalay Hotel.”

    Can’t have that.

    No.

    We’re already beginning to see new calls for eliminating “fake news” in the wake of the Vegas attacks. The Guardian is bemoaning the fact that many videos are being posted which question, doubt, and reject the official lone gunman scenario.

    Can’t have that.

    No.

    Instead, what we need are more videos of police press conferences. We should bow down and accept that information. The Church of Police Truth. It’s the only way to get to heaven. Join now before it’s too late and you’re infected by the Other.

    After working for 19 years as a reporter and author, I went online in 2001 and called this site nomorefakenews. There was a reason for that. It’s called mainstream news.

    Jon Rappoport

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    A friend of mind gave to me the link for this vid ... sensitive souls s'abstenir svp! Very graphic and gore!


    So many people are claiming that they believe that this was a hoax because of the lack of videos an photos showing dead or bloody bodies…

    Have a look at the chaos after the shooting.

    Sad all my prayers for the victims


    https://sotomayortv.com/bloodyscenelv/
    Last edited by Gaia; 5th October 2017 at 14:46.

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