Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[Satori]

I think a lot of what we are seeing in the sheriff is also extreme fatigue and incredible stress, even if he did not have an FBI handler hovering over him at all times

As long as he does his best at presenting the official theory, I doubt he is any personal danger. But, he is clearly not as polished at lying and spinning as his handlers would like

Rouse is FBI scum. The guy makes my skin crawl. Watch his facial expressions and body language when he is handling the sheriff. He is usually trying to be poker faced, but he can't resist the urge now and then to nod his head in approval of what the sheriff says. When he does this, he is trying to reenforce a few points in the audiences' collective and individual mind(s). So when he nods with approval, you can be sure to take the opposite as closer to the truth.

[Tintin]

Posted by LadyM (here)
I struggle with the crisis actors. They are real, live human beings, right? How do they sleep well at night knowing they are part of something so wicked, so inhumane? It could be they are paid very well, but I don't know.

Crisis actors, and acting as a job, will be sold to them as a job; nothing more. It is in their minds a fictional scenario, with the pay, and to be just done at set time, place, with script. When it goes "real" as the Harvest thing obviously was then they end up in the same soup as everyone else. Lambs to the slaughter. They are as innocent as anyone who wasn't a crisis individual. To the perpetrators of this outrage they are considered just fodder, cannon fodder.

They won't sleep easy because they have been duped, scared to death, and traumatised, along with anybody else there fortunate enough to get out alive. The mind-set of those who plan these things is so way beyond comprehension due to the depths of depravity it reaches that it imbues the beggar of belief. They are also victims.

The simple answer to your very decent and human question is that they are not the architects of the scenario, just mere participants. And right royally duped and stitched up along with every other dear soul caught up in it.

[Bluegreen]

Its gone from MSM, only 'human interest' stories. Weinstein, on the other hand, is full steam ahead.

[muxfolder]

Posted by Bluegreen (here)
Its gone from MSM, only 'human interest' stories. Weinstein, on the other hand, is full steam ahead.

He's probably one of those who were supposed to be celebrating well done job, but he was the one thrown under the bus. After this, there's probably going to be some pedophile scandal and Weinstein is going to be part of that. That's just my 2 cents.

[Noelle]

Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)

Posted by LadyM (here)
I struggle with the crisis actors. They are real, live human beings, right? How do they sleep well at night knowing they are part of something so wicked, so inhumane? It could be they are paid very well, but I don't know.

Crisis actors, and acting as a job, will be sold to them as a job; nothing more. It is in their minds a fictional scenario, with the pay, and to be just done at set time, place, with script. When it goes "real" as the Harvest thing obviously was then they end up in the same soup as everyone else. Lambs to the slaughter. They are as innocent as anyone who wasn't a crisis individual. To the perpetrators of this outrage they are considered just fodder, cannon fodder.

They won't sleep easy because they have been duped, scared to death, and traumatised, along with anybody else there fortunate enough to get out alive. The mind-set of those who plan these things is so way beyond comprehension due to the depths of depravity it reaches that it imbues the beggar of belief. They are also victims.

The simple answer to your very decent and human question is that they are not the architects of the scenario, just mere participants. And right royally duped and stitched up along with every other dear soul caught up in it.

Thanks, Tintin. I was getting ready to put on my tin foil hat and ask if the crisis actors were artificial humans, like cyborgs.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

If there are any videos of purported crisis actors, I'd like to see them. (And, of course, it's quite possible I've missed something.)

Many of the witnesses I've heard are genuinely upset and offended about claims that somehow this is a hoax... rather than a false flag event, which is a quite different animal.

[Bill Ryan]

Entirely separately, I'd love to know what George Knapp's stance is about this. (Has he appeared on Coast to Coast AM yet since the shooting? He's actually hosting tonight's show.)

George, who's lived in Vegas since 1979, and whose day job is as a reporter and presenter for KLAS-TV, must have a LOT of 'inside' contacts there — including quite a few in high places. It'd also be interesting to know what he has and hasn't been permitted to say on C2C, which many readers may remember distinguished itself by firing radio host John D Wells because he was 'too political and controversial'. (C2C is almost entirely sanitized now, and sticks to safe, anodyne lightweight entertainment in the form of ghosts, reincarnation, and Bigfoot.)

[muxfolder]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

If there are any videos of purported crisis actors, I'd like to see them. (And, of course, it's quite possible I've missed something.)

Many of the witnesses I've heard are genuinely upset and offended about claims that somehow this is a hoax... rather than a false flag event, which is a quite different animal.

Well, the MSM is full of crisis actors. I was actually referring to those more obvious cases, most of them very well imposed here on Avalon. But how fishy is this Las Vegas thing. Oh my. It's just getting more and more complicated and more and more obvious everyday that there's something wrong about it. And people won't shut up, it's quite the opposite.

[Bluegreen]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

If there are any videos of purported crisis actors, I'd like to see them. (And, of course, it's quite possible I've missed something.)

Many of the witnesses I've heard are genuinely upset and offended about claims that somehow this is a hoax... rather than a false flag event, which is a quite different animal.

Likely true, because to Henry Kissinger and his murderous, psychopathic friends, we are like cattle

As we've heard from Svali, Carolyn Hamlett, Arizona Wilder, Cheryl Hersha, Cathy O'Brien, and other bloodline insiders

They're not like us

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

My current guess is that there were no crisis actors in the Route 91 Harvest Festival audience ... but that there were a few actors pretending to have been there, who were interviewed on main stream news, the next day..

[Caliban]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

My current guess is that there were no crisis actors in the Route 91 Harvest Festival audience ... but that there were a few actors pretending to have been there, who were interviewed on main stream news, the next day..

Just go to YT and search Mike Cronk.
Lots of images on Google images don't look right, like some drill filmed the day before. Many YT videos have been removed, I'm thinking of one in particular that did a brilliant analysis on drill-like photos and obvious photo shopped pics. Dramatic eyewitness reports, Bill? Unquestionably real? Bill, c'mon...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Caliban (here)
Dramatic eyewitness reports, Bill? Unquestionably real? Bill, c'mon...

Yes, absolutely.

Here's one of many. EVERYONE should watch this.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bvActO9U8eI

[Franny]

It's looking to me like a hybrid false flag event. Crisis actors for staged photos and the interviews giving the official story; real people that experienced the trauma and a lot of phones wiped clean.

[bluestflame]

good vid bill ... black briefcase man, curiouser and curiouser

[Tintin]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

If there are any videos of purported crisis actors, I'd like to see them. (And, of course, it's quite possible I've missed something.)

Many of the witnesses I've heard are genuinely upset and offended about claims that somehow this is a hoax... rather than a false flag event, which is a quite different animal.

I totally agree here. The witness testimony coming forward gradually, after the trauma may have subsided a little, is pretty rock solid genuine. I too am struggling to determine any crisis acting, at all.

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Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

My current guess is that there were no crisis actors in the Route 91 Harvest Festival audience ... but that there were a few actors pretending to have been there, who were interviewed on main stream news, the next day..

Totally with you on that Paul. Thanks for helping to clarify my thoughts on this.

[Cidersomerset]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'm not aware of any crisis actors at all. Meanwhile, there's an abundance of
dramatic eyewitness reports which are unquestionably real.

My current guess is that there were no crisis actors in the Route 91 Harvest
Festival audience ... but that there were a few actors pretending to have been
there, who were interviewed on main stream news, the next day..

I agree I have not seen any crisis actors , though there has been plenty of
speculation. Whether any have been used in the media cover up is possible.


Unlike some other events there is plenty of hospital footage that would be
difficult to create without massive collusion with the emergency services
press and locals who work in these places.

Victims of Las Vegas Shooting Speak From Their Hospital Beds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LFKvz3W2w

Published on 3 Oct 2017
Some of the hospitalized victims of Sundays mass shooting in Las Vegas are
opening up about the injuries they sustained and the horror they faced.
Shooting victim Gianna Baca visited her identical twin sister at a Las Vegas
hospital. The 17-year-old twins were both shot during Sunday's mass shooting.
Gianna and Natalia were enjoying the concert when automatic gunfire rang out.
Gianna was hit in the hip. Natalia was shot in the shoulder, which punctured her lung.

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Two other segments by Owen Shroyer from yesterdays brief show.


FBI Doesn’t Mention Shooters At Bellagio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_49r258kido

Published on 15 Oct 2017
Owen Shroyer talks about how Laura Loomer was banned from vegas shooting
conference held by sheriff and how they still won't talks about all the strange
things that were going on in vegas before, during and after the massacre.

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Private Pilot Doubts Shooter Was Hitting Jet Fuel Tanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXXbf9NIpWY

Published on 15 Oct 2017
Owen Shroyer talks to a caller who calls out the FBI for their bs on the shooting
narrative and those so called gas tanks they claim were being shot at.
https://www.infowars.com/watch-vegas-...

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First Responders Face PTSD Risk After Vegas Shooting | NBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhoagoXOAgg

Published on 16 Oct 2017
EMTs who rescued the wounded during the Vegas shooting could be at risk for post-
traumatic stress, an illness affecting paramedics at rates as high as soldiers
returning from combat

[Hervé]

Another caveat regarding edited videos from Jim Stone:

TOTALLY FAKE REALITY BEING CREATED FOR VEGAS SHOOTING

I FIGURED THIS OUT WHEN I WATCHED THE NEW VIDEOS OF THE CONCERT GETTING INTERRUPTED.

IN THE REAL VIDEOS, JASON ALDEAN NOTICES THE SHOOTING, STOPS SINGING, BACKS AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE, DOES A SHORT DAZED WALK AND THEN STARTS RUNNING ALL THE WHILE HIS VOICE CONTINUES OVER THE SPEAKERS, AND THE CROWD LAUGHS BECAUSE THEY FIGURE OUT HE WAS LIP SYNCHING.

IN THE NEW FAKE VIDEOS, HE SINGS RIGHT UP TO THE END, AND SUDDENLY RUNS. THE VIDEOS LOOK COMPLETELY REAL.

[DNA]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Entirely separately, I'd love to know what George Knapp's stance is about this. (Has he appeared on Coast to Coast AM yet since the shooting? He's actually hosting tonight's show.)

I'm a big fan of Knapp when it concerns his narrow spectrum of specialization such as UFO's and Cryptids, but not a fan when it is expanded to Government cover ups.
I've heard Knapp speak in exasperation when confronted with the Wikileaks evidence as it is related to John Podesta and others in Government participating in spirit cooking and pedophilia.
Knapp seems to be opposed to Alex Jones in general and referred to him as "fake news" at one point.
This caused me to lose much respect for Knapp and to view him as quite uninformed.
Knapp is a member of the media and he seems to have taken his side in regards to what is fake media and what is real media.

[Cidersomerset]

Knapp seems to be opposed to Alex Jones in general and referred to him as "fake news" at one point

I agree DNA I like his UFO reports and I cannot find any vids with George
commenting on the shootings. He has posted some articles about it on
Twitter the latest below which seems more mainstream than alternate , but
may or may not be his full views ?......

I did find what seems to be his latest UFO vid 9/10/17.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FrlMyLJZfU
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George Knapp‏ @g_knapp
LV shooting inspires a bounty of conspiracy theories:

Conspiracy crowd working overtime since Las Vegas shooting


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Conspiracy crowd working overtime since Las Vegas shooting
Every mass-casualty event attracts its share of crackpots, and
the Oct. 1 attack in Las Vegas is no different. But the flow of
“fake news” about the shooting exceeds...

reviewjournal.com
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...egas-shooting/

10:33 pm - 14 Oct 2017

George Knapp...
https://twitter.com/g_knapp?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[Bill Ryan]

Alex Jones' summary today of the current state of play regarding the Las Vegas cover-up:

• http://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_...6_Oct_2017.mp3 (4.7 Mb, 8 mins)