Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[TargeT]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
Remember fast n furious??? Steven paddock was an undercover FBI agent running guns to Isis terrorists in America, Isis found out, killing him , then went on a shooting spree ... The reason for all the cameras was paddock was running a sting for the FBI ... It all went south, anonymous hacked the emails between the FBI and Vegas police... There were multiple shooters ... And that's why the official story makes no sense...

Why would you not provide references with statements like that?

GIVE ME LINKS SCOTTY!

[mountain_jim]

So the FBI was running guns to sting a CIA/Mossad/Saudi created/sponsored organization?

Dammegard views Isis as that, and I am beginning to as well. It is likely more complex than that, possibly internal organizational warfare between competing Deep State / Illuminati interests I hypothesize, but the gun-running and gambling laundering angle makes sense to me as well.

[Cidersomerset]

Well this could be a movie , Jesus rises on that hard hitting news station...Ellen.
I suppose its off to Whoopies Angels on the View next.....

Maybe not in the second part of the Ellen says this is going to be their only
appearance if so what a great media psyop on the mass's . This is complete BS and
it made me feel a bit nauseous at this blatant PR stunt .......

Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos on Ellen DeGeneres

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F7gj1FoRIfE

Published on 18 Oct 2017
Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos on Ellen DeGeneres




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Exclusive: 30 Questions From The Las Vegas Massacre


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXx7F4tCQ8

Published on 18 Oct 2017....Info Wars...
Yet again we are left with more and more questions surrounding the Vegas Massacre.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by TargeT (here)
I also think the very low number of fatalities (and it was low, given the situation... IMO) is very interesting and lends to the "cover for sniper fire" possibility or several other possibilities.

I give the reported Las Vegas fatality and casualty numbers about as much credibility as I do the reported election returns from cities such as these in last year's US Presidential election.

[mountain_jim]

http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/1...a-deeper-hole/

‘Missing’ Vegas Security Guard Shows Up for Ellen Show Interview, Digs Himself Into a Deep Hole

October 18, 2017
Russ Winter

“No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.”– Abraham Lincoln

Jesus Campos and what looks like his handler walked on to the set of the Ellen DeGeneras show Wednesday looking no worse for the wear two weeks after taking an AR round in the leg. It also looks like Campos has been hitting the buffet bars hard since his photos one week ago at an Oct. 10 “award ceremony”. How can this be even remotely credible?

At left Oct. 10; at right Oct. 17.

Notice the handler rubbing his back several times throughout the interview. Here is Campos’ facial appearance in the Oct. 17 interview compared to the Oct. 10 “awards ceremony”. One is oval faced, the other square. The full show is here, but The New Nationalist will focus on one major snafu.

Campos in the video of the interview below describes the stairwell doors as being barricaded by “metal brackets holding the doors in place.” DeGeneras was scripted enough to point out and clarify to the whole world that the inner stairwell door was barricaded. That’s what she is pointing to.

Unfortunately for the storytellers, the inner door opens into the stairwell not away from it. Campos also says explicitly that he saw the barricade metal brackets from his viewpoint in the hallway. Nao combinam.

This means the inner door could NOT have been barricaded from the 32nd floor. In fact, both doors opens toward the staircase, so the barricade wouldn’t work. Here are two girls in Mandalay Bay filming this. You only need to watch 0:08 to 0:15 to see both of the doors swing inward. If you need more confirmation, at 8:54 the girls return through the doors toward the hallway, and you can clearly see the door-closing mechanism and the doors.

An epic fail in the annals of staged deceptions.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R9ileVYnBQw

[Noelle]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/1...a-deeper-hole/



‘Missing’ Vegas Security Guard Shows Up for Ellen Show Interview, Digs Himself Into a Deep Hole

October 18, 2017
Russ Winter

“No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.”– Abraham Lincoln

Jesus Campos and what looks like his handler walked on to the set of the Ellen DeGeneras show Wednesday looking no worse for the wear two weeks after taking an AR round in the leg. It also looks like Campos has been hitting the buffet bars hard since his photos one week ago at an Oct. 10 “award ceremony”. How can this be even remotely credible?

Notice the handler rubbing his back several times throughout the interview. Here is Campos’ facial appearance in the Oct. 17 interview compared to the Oct. 10 “awards ceremony”. One is oval faced, the other square. The full show is here, but The New Nationalist will focus on one major snafu.

Campos in the video of the interview below describes the stairwell doors as being barricaded by “metal brackets holding the doors in place.” DeGeneras was scripted enough to point out and clarify to the whole world that the inner stairwell door was barricaded. That’s what she is pointing to.



Unfortunately for the storytellers, the inner door opens into the stairwell not away from it. Campos also says explicitly that he saw the barricade metal brackets from his viewpoint in the hallway. Nao combinam.

This means the inner door could NOT have been barricaded from the 32nd floor. In fact, both doors opens toward the staircase, so the barricade wouldn’t work. Here are two girls in Mandalay Bay filming this. You only need to watch 0:08 to 0:15 to see both of the doors swing inward. If you need more confirmation, at 8:54 the girls return through the doors toward the hallway, and you can clearly see the door-closing mechanism and the doors.

An epic fail in the annals of staged deceptions.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R9ileVYnBQw

His appearance on Ellen is questionable to me, as is how the MSM has covered his disappearance. Yesterday, Fox said he was found, and AOL was reporting him as still missing.

[Caliban]

Go to about 1:40 on this one. Looks pretty fake. Do you see any blood there at all?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UCVoNlpRhNM

This guy (?) did some investigating into some of the (?) victims. Scroll down, he checked out about 50 people. It's in Nine Videos. The music's kind of annoying.

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2017/10...egas-massacre/

This guy is long-winded but he makes some good points around the 4:00 min mark regarding apparent absence of blood splatter.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-0h1OpIKZ160

[TrumanCash]

Wow, Shutterfly just got national TV advertising for only 25 grand! (See post #664 above).

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Caliban (here)
Go to about 1:40 on this one. Looks pretty fake. Do you see any blood there at all?

...

This guy (?) did some investigating into some of the (?) victims. Scroll down, he checked out about 50 people. It's in Nine Videos. The music's kind of annoying.

After a quick glance, it seemed to me that this guy (?) was showing us that the main stream evidence presented to us was fake.

If so, then that is consistent with my current working theory:

• They show us fake evidence,
• while they hide the real evidence.

This has several benefits (for the elite bastards):

• Suppressing the real evidence helps protect the official (fake, "lone nut") story and helps hide the true story (this was another a major false flag operation.)
• Dominating the main stream media with the fake evidence keeps the main stream narrative on track with the official story line.
• Leaks of real or also faked alternative evidence supporting various confused and conflicting stories discredit the efforts to find and expose the truth in a cloud of confusion and conflict.

When someone such as this guy (?) documents that the evidence supporting the official story seems fake, but doesn't also point out that there is quite a bit of evidence supporting an alternative, more horrific and systemic false flag narrative, then they (perhaps inadvertently) risk supporting the confusion and conflict that discredits the honest efforts to find and expose the truth.

[Caliban]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Caliban (here)
Go to about 1:40 on this one. Looks pretty fake. Do you see any blood there at all?

...

This guy (?) did some investigating into some of the (?) victims. Scroll down, he checked out about 50 people. It's in Nine Videos. The music's kind of annoying.

After a quick glance, it seemed to me that this guy (?) was showing us that the main stream evidence presented to us was fake.

If so, then that is consistent with my current working theory:

• They show us fake evidence,
• while they hide the real evidence.

This has several benefits (for the elite bastards):

• Suppressing the real evidence helps protect the official (fake, "lone nut") story and helps hide the true story (this was another a major false flag operation.)
• Dominating the main stream media with the fake evidence keeps the main stream narrative on track with the official story line.
• Leaks of real or also faked alternative evidence supporting various confused and conflicting stories discredits the efforts to find and expose the truth in a cloud of confusion and conflict.

When someone such as this guy (?) documents that the evidence supporting the official story seems fake, but doesn't also point out that there is quite a bit of evidence supporting an alternative, more horrific and systemic false flag narrative, then they (perhaps inadvertently) risk supporting the confusion and conflict that discredits the honest efforts to find and expose the truth.

But where is that photographic evidence? The only thing I've seen is that liveleak video which looked fake to me. Have you seen anything else that showed anyone actually getting shot? Or having gotten shot? Concert goers leaving covered in (others) blood?

The fact that it might be "hidden" evidence is a good theory but you really need a bit of that evidence to prove it!

Besides people's "dramatic" testimony I've seen nothing that convinces me. And I'd like to be convinced if my compatriots were killed and wounded here.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Caliban (here)
But where is that photographic evidence? The only thing I've seen is that liveleak video which looked fake to me. Have you seen anything else that showed anyone actually getting shot? Or having gotten shot? Concert goers leaving covered in (others) blood?

The fact that it might be "hidden" evidence is a good theory but you really need a bit of that evidence to prove it!

Besides people's "dramatic" testimony I've seen nothing that convinces me. And I'd like to be convinced if my compatriots were killed and wounded here.

The bastards pulling this off can watch for any sign of real evidence of the actual event and suppress it. As best as I can tell, there were multiple shooters, shooting to kill with head and center body shots, at closer range than the Mandalay Bay, and the crowd was herded into yet another "killing field", in the back of the area, closer to the Tropicana, where the killing continued. There apparently were also shootings at some nearby hotels.

What does seem real (very real, very traumatic) to me are some of the reports, sometimes days or a week later, by people who describe being there and what they saw, heard, felt, and did.

Some four (that I've heard of) people who were rather too open about what they saw and heard, such as the multiple shooters, have died since then, not of gun shot wounds from that night, but from other suspicious causes. Many Youtube videos have been taken down. All cell phones and cameras from those there that night were taken and any video, audio or social media messaging from that night were wiped before the phones were returned. Likely any live transmitting of video or audio via cell phones or wifi was blocked during the event.

Think about it ... if you had been there and somehow gotten out alive with video or even still images showing the real event ... how would you get that public, given all the censorship? The more revealing whatever you had, the harder it would be to successfully get it widely known to the public. Rather it would be censored, and/or you would be dead, as happened in such events in the past, such as the JFK assassination or 9/11.

One has to step back a bit, study how they do such operations, and then observe a variety of details in the current Las Vegas operation that strongly resemble numerous other previous false flags.

[Satori]

So Ellen scooped the other shills and gets the exclusive "interview" from this guy, whoever his handlers and he are, and whatever they are up to. Ellen has an audience of how many million sheeple? Putting him on her entertainment program will drill whatever meme or narrative they are pushing into the minds of many.

I have not, and will not, watch the so-called interview anytime soon, if at all. But I feel confident in saying that it is not only propaganda, but black propaganda. That is, claims made and "information" provided, that are generally accepted in the heat, emotion and confusion of the event and first few days following, but that would be generally rejected in calmer times and upon closer reflection.

[Caliban]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Caliban (here)
But where is that photographic evidence? The only thing I've seen is that liveleak video which looked fake to me. Have you seen anything else that showed anyone actually getting shot? Or having gotten shot? Concert goers leaving covered in (others) blood?

The fact that it might be "hidden" evidence is a good theory but you really need a bit of that evidence to prove it!

Besides people's "dramatic" testimony I've seen nothing that convinces me. And I'd like to be convinced if my compatriots were killed and wounded here.

The bastards pulling this off can watch for any sign of real evidence of the actual event and suppress it. As best as I can tell, there were multiple shooters, shooting to kill with head and center body shots, at closer range than the Mandalay Bay, and the crowd was herded into yet another "killing field", in the back of the area, closer to the Tropicana, where the killing continued. There apparently were also shootings at some nearby hotels.

What does seem real (very real, very traumatic) to me are some of the reports, sometimes days or a week later, by people who describe being there and what they saw, heard, felt, and did.

Some four (that I've heard of) people who were rather too open about what they saw and heard, such as the multiple shooters, have died since then, not of gun shot wounds from that night, but from other suspicious causes. Many Youtube videos have been taken down. All cell phones and cameras from those there that night were taken and any video, audio or social media messaging from that night were wiped before the phones were returned. Likely any live transmitting of video or audio via cell phones or wifi was blocked during the event.

Think about it ... if you had been there and somehow gotten out alive with video or even still images showing the real event ... how would you get that public, given all the censorship? The more revealing whatever you had, the harder it would be to successfully get it widely known to the public. Rather it would be censored, and/or you would be dead, as happened in such events in the past, such as the JFK assassination or 9/11.

One has to step back a bit, study how they do such operations, and then observe a variety of details in the current Las Vegas operation that strongly resemble numerous other previous false flags.

Good points, as usual. Let's bear in mind though that we'd be pretty traumatized if we were in a huge crowd that was running for their lives amid gunshots -- and then heard many people were hit. (No matter the ultimate reality of the event)

Check out the Internet Archive (a great source for many things); seems lots of people are moving/posting their vids over there to avoid the "don't be evil" YT freaks.

https://archive.org/search.php?query...gas%20shooting

[ghostrider]

Its all over YT ... let me grab some data ...

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https://youtu.be/TLmQY3hMCpo

[ghostrider]

https://youtu.be/o9yViDT_HTk

[mountain_jim]

The above info was on Reddit a week ago, as indicated in the comments. This is not new.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
Its all over YT ... let me grab some data ...https://youtu.be/TLmQY3hMCpo

That's from well over a week ago, and the 240p video (clearly not the original one) is too poor to read anything. The idea of Paddock having been an FBI agent, caught in an arms deal entrapment gone bad, has been discussed extensively.

[Cidersomerset]

So Ellen scooped the other shills and gets the exclusive "interview" from this guy,
whoever his handlers and he are, and whatever they are up to. Ellen has an audience of
how many million sheeple? Putting him on her entertainment program will drill whatever
meme or narrative they are pushing into the minds of many.

Exactly great propaganda value for the mass's and to put his face and story on
mainstream record. It is supposed to be his only public appearance and planned to
stop the press looking for him and also covering up their clean up plan imo. As I
said it made me feel nauseous.


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The bastards pulling this off can watch for any sign of real evidence of the
actual event and suppress it. As best as I can tell, there were multiple shooters,
shooting to kill with head and center body shots, at closer range than the Mandalay
Bay, and the crowd was herded into yet another "killing field", in the back of the
area, closer to the Tropicana, where the killing continued. There apparently were
also shootings at some nearby hotels.

What does seem real (very real, very traumatic) to me are some of the reports,
sometimes days or a week later, by people who describe being there and what they
saw, heard, felt, and did.

I agree with all this and the fact witness's report having their phones wiped and
all the other cover ups is clear this is a false flag type of event. I just find it hard
that every one is in on it from the emergency services to everyday people.
Yes they can and have been duped many times but this would be another level imo.
There are still a lot of victim vids in the hospitals and they were able to hood wink
Trump and others. Though some would say that is easy.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ng+in+hospital

Still I'm open and keep up with your analysis Paul.....


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This may soon be off the news cycle as Trump sends another carrier towards Korea
as we are still in the Calm before the storm.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNufUZTl26E

Also Home land security warns ISIS is planning 9/11 event...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rity-boss.html

[Cidersomerset]

Owen Shroyer sums it up....Ellen has links to Vegas , casinos and MGM...Coincidence ?

Ellen’s Jackpot! Jesus Interview & MGM Celeb Slot Machines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCeZ2BbmYwQ
Published on 18 Oct 2017
If you want a no questions asked, puff piece interview of the security guard whose
testimony could expose MGM/Mandalay Bay to lawsuits, who you gonna call? Ellen
Degeneres, who 9 days before the shooting was showing off HER celebrity slot
machines in the MGM Grand.

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The Truth Of How Ellen Got The Exclusive Jesus Campos Interview

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V3WQQh_0Bhg

Published on 18 Oct 2017
Its no coincidence that Ellen got the first interview with Jesus Campos interview

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New Eyewitness Confirms Multiple Shooters In Vegas Massacre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiDE5hFcco
Published on 18 Oct 2017
Another eye witness has brought their testimony to light in the fight to expose the
truth of Las Vegas.

[TrumanCash]

Video where a man is pointing out where the shooting is coming from and it is not Mandalay Bay. He's on the other side of Luxor on the sidewalk and pointing toward the concert venue, perhaps towards the stage. It is difficult to pinpoint exactly, but is definitely not Mandalay.

At 1:00 he says that the sound is coming from two locations and appears to point in the direction of the Tropicana and/or perhaps the violet purple building by the Tropicana on the west side.

https://www.facebook.com/attila.kolo...4569629908226/