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31st January 2018 17:21
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Train Derailment - US Members of Congress on-board
An odd situation.
A dumptruck was parked on the tracks.
An Amtrak train hit the dumptruck.
Members of Congress were hurt.
This came after the State of the Union address. Coincidence? Or something else?
reference - most news services
http://wtvr.com/2018/01/31/amtrak-congress-crash/
Article Title: Amtrak carrying members of Congress hits Virginia truck
ALBEMARLE COUNTY, Va. -- A train carrying members of Congress -- including House Speaker Paul Ryan -- to their legislative retreat in West Virginia hit a truck Wednesday, multiple sources told CNN.
An aide confirmed Ryan was on the train and is fine. Separately, a congressman on the train told CNN most of the staff and members on the train are OK.
The Amtrak train left from Union Station in Washington earlier Wednesday, and was carrying members of Congress, as well as their spouses, some family members and aides to the lawmakers.
Rep. John Faso, a New York Republican, who was on the train that crashed, said he was able to see the truck that hit the train, and that he was told that injuries were expected from people in the truck, not train.
"There was (what) looks like a tractor trailer carrying trash that was hit by the train," Faso, who said he was in the third car of the train, told CNN.
"I think everyone on the train is OK," Faso said. "I don't know that for sure, it's a long train. But most of the concern is for the people outside."
One GOP source was unsure how many members of Congress were on the train or how many people were injured, but said there were injuries.
That source said members "hit the deck."
Republican members of Congress were on their way for a retreat at The Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia, starting Wednesday and ending Friday. Vice President Mike Pence, who was not on the train, is scheduled to speak to members later Wednesday and President Donald Trump is scheduled to address the event tomorrow.
NOW: Amtrak train collides with garbage truck in Crozet. Nurse on scene reports at least one fatality and at least one in critical condition. NBC29 is on scene and will bring you more details as we get them. pic.twitter.com/eU0uYL0JQx
— NBC29 (@NBC29) January 31, 2018
BREAKING: I'm on the scene of a train crash with a tractor trailer in Crozet. More at noon on @CBS19News pic.twitter.com/KuyJMVpRRG
— Laura Perrot (@LauraCPerrot) January 31, 2018
Just confirmed that @DaveBratVA7th was not on the #crozet train. He drove home last night after SOTU, per his office. @CBS6 #BREAKING #Vapolitics
— Jake Burns (@JakeBurnsCBS6) January 31, 2018
This is a developing story.
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31st January 2018 17:26
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Re: Train Derailment - US Members of Congress on-board
-- Passenger aboard truck dead after crash involving train carrying members of Congress
Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona told The Washington Post that there were three passengers on the truck, with one dead and two injured. Flake said he and other lawmakers carried one of the injured truck passengers to an ambulance with local medical personnel.
The Amtrak train crashed with the truck in Crozet, which is west of Charlottesville, at 11:20 a.m. local time.
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31st January 2018 17:35
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Another view
Nebraska Reps. Jeff Fortenberry and Don Bacon are both safe after an Amtrak train carrying dozens of GOP lawmakers crashed into a garbage truck en route to a retreat in West Virginia.
Forteberry's family was also on the train, he tweeted: "Jarring, but everyone OK on train."
He added that someone on the truck appeared to be seriously injured, possibly dead. "A number of Members of Congress who are doctors tried to help," he tweeted.
It was unclear if other members of Nebraska's federal delegation were on board.
The crash happened near Charlottesville, Virginia. The train was carrying members of the House and Senate, plus some family members and aides, en route to the Greenbrier resort in White Sulfur Springs for a three-day issues retreat featuring appearances by President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.
Oklahoma GOP Rep. Tom Cole said he felt "a tremendous jolt" when the accident occurred at about 11:15 a.m. EST, nearly two hours after it left Washington.
He said the train stopped quickly after impact. He said several GOP lawmakers who are doctors got off the train to assist, including Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, who was also at last June's shooting of Republicans at a baseball practice in nearby Alexandria, Virginia, and treated some of the victims.
Other doctor-lawmakers who helped included Reps. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, Phil Roe, R-Tenn., and Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La.
Cole said the front of the train hit a vehicle that appeared to be a trash truck, which he said was torn in half. He said the accident apparently occurred at or near a crossing because he could see railroad crossing gates.
from: http://journalstar.com/news/state-an...fbbcf375a.html
image from NBC
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31st January 2018 17:44
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Re: Train Derailment - US Members of Congress on-board
Additional members names (list is developing)
Iowa Senator Ernst and Congressman Young
House Speaker Paul Ryan
Oklahoma GOP Rep. Tom Cole Rep.
Nebraska Reps. Jeff Fortenberry and Don Bacon
Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio
Jason Lewis R-Minnesota
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Greg Walden Oregon
Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Mo
Jeb Hensarling - Texas Congressman
Congressman Bradley Byrne Alabama
Sean Duffy (and family)
Rep Roger Marshall - one of the doctors performing CPR
Rep. Chuck Fleischmann (Tennessee) - injured (Fleischmann said he was thrown around upon the impact and suffered neck, back and foot injuries.) He reports others on the train were injured.
Rep. Phil Roe, R-Johnson City
Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Ind.
Rep. Greg Walden
Rep. John Faso
U.S. Rep. Tom Rice
Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner and Rep. Mike Coffman
Reps. Rick Allen, Buddy Carter, Drew Ferguson, Karen Handel, Jody Hice, Barry Loudermilk and Austin Scott (Georgia)
(see bottom of post for more updates on WHO was ON the train)
(more coming.. one member was saying about 200 members of Congress on board the train, with about 100 family members (according to Brad Byrne)
update - FOX news has Rachel Campos Duffy's wife reporting that there are NO injuries on board, contradicting Rep/ Chuck Fleischmann's tweets.
FOX then got Fleischmann to report via phone. He reports that the train is now being pulled back to it's starting destination, where the people on the train will be transported by BUS to their retreat. Pence and Trump are scheduled to meet at the retreat within a day.
Roger Marshall reports that there were people with head injuries on the train.
The train was running at about 70 mph when the impact happened.
According to Brad Byrne, this retreat is an ESSENTIAL MEETING, where the upcoming year's agenda will be developed.
VP Pence tweets, still heading to the retreat. (That this won't stop him or others to proceed ahead).
Dr Marshall reports that the first person had a crushed airway (no pulse), and they tried to work on them to keep them alive (but failed), then they went to work on the second person, and managed to stabilize them, where they were transported to a local hospital. No word on the 3rd person from the trash truck such as why they were there stopped on the track.
This is not the first time this sort of thing happened. TWO years in a row, there have been 'accidents' on getting to the retreat.
Jeb Hensarling (Texas) reports at least 2 people (reps) from the train were transported to UVA Health Systems (hospital). There were two Amtrak employees also injured.
Jeb reports that he will do the retreat. That this retreat is essential for planning the business needed for the upcoming year.
Back at CharlottesVille, VA its a scene out of 911 - police are everywhere, from state police, capitol police, sheriff's and local police. Security checks everywhere.
1:38pm the train (more than a dozen cars) is arriving at CharlottesVille. A convoy of buses sits in the parking lot.
Words being used by the congressional members - "We WILL be doing the People's Work"..
Railroad investigator says, no warning lights were flashing (when he saw the train moving out from the crash site), but/and this particular location was in a relatively hidden spot, on an uphill incline, treelined,and on a curve and the Amtrak engineers would have had a hard time to see a vehicle on the tracks at this location until it was too late. (John Hiatt railroad investigator). Hiatt also said there is no logical reason what-so-ever that this train should have been moved until the preliminary investigation was completed. He felt it unusual that the track was cleared so quickly and declared safe to move the train.
Michael Burgess (R) Texas contradicts the Rail Road investigator.
Burgess says the gates were down, lights flashing (how would he know that?) One could assume that crossing gates would have been destroyed during such a crash.. ? If so (gates) why was the dumptruck on the track around the gates? Contradictions are starting to build. He also contradicts the speed, saying it was only 50-60 mph. How would he know that?
Burgess says it's just an accident, no conspiracy, nothing sinister there.. (1:54 pm in an interview live with FOX)
hmmm... "move along, nothing to see here"... now where have we seen that before.. Could we assume the earlier congressmen and their families are being told to shut up and let the appropriate spokespersons explain it all.. who would be telling them that if such is the case, why the contradictions? Those injured spoke out early and probably accurately. Burgess says he was not injured, just sitting at a table talking to other people there.
Fox news reported on-site at the Amtrak station in CharlottesVille, VA reports that the feed going back to the networks IS being delayed by 20 seconds, so it is not actually LIVE but is being censored, monitored..
News helicopters are flying over the crash site. SWAT members are starting to converge all over the Amtrak Station.
Pulling up Google Earth - taking an actual LOOK at the scene...
The curve matches what the railroad accident investigator reported, ON A CURVE.
Accident Scene Crozet, near Lanetown and Marymart Farm Roads.
There are NO crossing gates seen in the recent google-earth satellite views of the accident site, but two light poles indicating a train may be coming can be seen on the sides of the road. Now it is possible that the gates are very thin and relatively invisible from Satellite views not able to cast a shadow.. If they were down, it would be easy to drive around them. In an early live view from FOX on the ground at the crossing, one cannot SEE any gates, but possibly a mechanism on the flashing lights poles (without any gates attached). Were there gates damaged? Were there no gates but the mechanism there? Unknown at this time. Subsequent "views" of the scene NOW show a gate across both sides of the track. The SIZE of the GATE(s) appear to "change" in whatever news agency is reporting on images at the accident scene..
There appears to be a very small pedestrian style of gate as shown by live Fox news cameras on site. Such a small gate does not seem like it would warn a truck to not cross. Another suggestion presented to me, was there a gunman in the truck telling the driver to stop on the tracks? Conjecture, hard telling at this point.
In this image from NBC, there appears to be a crossing gate - odd
The current images (allegedly supplied live images from the ground by a FOX news reporter on-site), show the "gates" to be DOWN and about 6-8 foot long.. The above image (still image) shows much LONGER GATES.. Again a strange anomaly in all the images.
Another view, the "gates" are down, and are smaller
Update-
Rolling back Google Earth to 2009 there is less foliage, and there CAN be seen large crossing gates (up at that time), and notice the WHITE trash truck (?) towards the bottom right. That seems to match the "dumptruck" in the crash images for today..
Update:
http://www.wtva.com/content/national...3.html?ref=213 - these folks published a list of who was on the train - *saying still not a complete list
- House Speaker Paul Ryan
- Rep. French Hilll, R-Arkansas
- Rep. John Moolenaar-, R-Michigan
- Rep. Rick Allen, R-Georgia
- Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Indiana
- Rep. Ron Estes, R-Kansas
- Rep. Steve Womack-, R-Arkansas
- Sen. Mike Rounds, R-South Dakota
- Rep. Keith Rothfus, R-Pennsylvania
- Rep. Alex Mooney, R-West Virginia
- Rep. Martha McSally, R-Arizona
- Rep. Don Bacon, R-Nebraska
- Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas
- Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kansas
- Rep. Steve Daines, R-Montana
- Rep. Drew Ferguson, R-Georgia
- Sen. James Lankford, R-Oklahoma
- Rep. Carlos Curbelo, R-Florida
- Rep. Mark Walker, R-North Carolina
- Rep. Vicky Hartzler, R-Missouri
- Rep. Roger Marshall, R-Kansas
- Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-Louisiana
- Rep. Ed Royce, R-California
- Rep. Jeff Fortenberry, R-Nebraska
- Rep. Bradley Byrne, R-Alabama
- Rep. Greg Walden, R-Oregon
- Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona
- Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa
- Rep. Tom Cole, R-Oklahoma
- Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas
- Rep. Chuck Fleischmann, R-Tennessee
- Rep. Jason Lewis, R-Minnesota
- Sen. Cory Gardner, R-Colorado
- Sen. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina
- Sen. Todd Young, R-Indiana
- Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio
- Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Indiana
- Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Washington
- Rep. Karen Handel, R-Georgia
- Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Indiana
- Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas
- Rep. Randy Hultgren, R-Illinois
- Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Georgia
- Rep. Hal Rogers, R-Kentucky
- Rep. Jeff Denham, R-California
- Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas
- Rep. Tim Walberg, R-Michigan
- Rep. Sean Duffy, R-Wisconsin
- Rep. Mike Bost, R-Illinois
- Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas
- Rep. Keith Rothfus, R-Pennsylvania
- Rep. Bill Flores, R-Texas
- Rep. Dan Donovan, R-New York
- Rep. John Faso, R-New York
- Rep. Gary Palmer, R-New York Rep.
- Steve King, R-Iowa
- Rep. Kevin Cramer, R-North Dakota
- Rep. Bob Lotta, R-Ohio
- Rep. Ted Yoho, R-Florida
- Rep. Andy Barr, R-Kentucky
- Rep. Rick Crawford, R-Arkansas
- Rep. Joe Wilson, R-South Carolina
- Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wisconsin
- Rep. John Katko, R-New York
- Rep. Tom MacArthur, R-New Jersey
- Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-New York
- Rep. Phil Roe, R-Tennessee
- Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-California
- Rep. Scott Tipton, R-Colorado
- Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Florida
- Rep. Bruce Westerman, R-Arkansas
- Rep. David Valadao, R-California
- Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Michigan
- Rep. Austin Scott, R-Georgia
- Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Kentucky
- Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho
- Rep. Richard Hudson, R-North Carolina
Last edited by Bob; 1st February 2018 at 01:27.
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31st January 2018 18:06
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