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    Lionel starts with a little pep talk to the troops then gets into some observations..

    #QAnon: #HRC in #NZ Courtesy of #FVEY | #DS #SEC Clearances?
    | #DARPA #FB8 #SpaceX #LifeLog Redux


    Published on 11 May 2018
    These are the most fascinating of times. Nothing that even approximates
    anything I've seen in 30 years of professional rabble-rousing and informational
    shenanigans. This is serious business. And whilst some folks argue about Q's
    provenance, I reiterate the message that we're missing the message. Focus.
    Look. Listen. Learn.

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    NBC Plays Investigative Autocorrect by Clearing Itself of the Notorious Matt Lauer Responsibility
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKGuYS39Pms
    Lionel Nation
    Published on 11 May 2018....RT....( 5 mins)...
    Simply amazing the size of their elephantine huevos, huh!

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    Sicko Schneiderman As Limited Hangout & NBC Clears Itself — Lionel on "Real
    News With David Knight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaqof0fMHI
    Published on 9 May 2018....( 20 mins)....
    "It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
    ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies
    between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the
    dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone."
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Damn. Double, triple, quadruple damn.

    I've been here before.

    In the 1990's, I came to realize that Bill Clinton was a sick, evil, murdering, womanizing, drug running, criminal, and so I cheered on his nemesis George W. Bush (and did I ever ... my track record on FreeRepublic.com as an active "W" supporter was almost as long as my current track record here on Project Avalon.)

    But then in the 2000's, I came to realize, primarily after figuring out around about 2008 that the "Attack of 9/11", 2001, was a Big Time psyop, that George W. Bush was, at best, an idiot, and that in any case, the dominant players in his administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi, ...) were evil to the core.

    Now here I am again, realizing (a bit more quickly this time) that Hillary Clinton is a sick, evil, murdering, womanizing, money running, criminal. Hence I have been cheering on her nemesis Donald J. Trump. Now I am coming to the realization that Donald J. Trump is, at best, a greedy, arrogant, overbearing and boorish child, and that in any case, the dominant players in his administration are evil to the core.

    This is not a case of Red vs Blue, of Republicans vs Democrats.

    This is a (repeated) case of evil vs evil, as in Clintonista Evil vs Idiotic or Arrogant Puppet Controlled by Evil.

    If history is repeating itself, then we're due for a 9/11 style event sometime soonish ... hence my latest thread War breaking out in the Middle East, which tries to anticipate what that "mega tragedy" might be.

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    (Question: If you were the any one of the generals that "Mel" has written to, how would you rate the emotional stability of the one that had sent the letter? Balanced / unbalanced? (just saying)...)...
    Be (1) crazy, or be (2) clueless, or be (3) a corpse. You pays your life and you takes your choice.

    "Mel", in my estimation, is not (2) clueless (meaning I think he has some clues, albeit an imbalanced portion of them.)

    "Mel" has been playing his crazy game for many years, and he's not (3) dead yet (as of his recent writings, anyway.)

    Therefore his imbalanced but detailed, insider, set of clues are easily dismissed as the (1) ravings of a lunatic.
    Hey Paul... you finally got me ROLMAO!!!.... lol! Thanks for doing so - laying it out like you did. lol!
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    Quote Now here I am again, realizing (a bit more quickly this time) that Hillary
    Clinton is a sick, evil, murdering, womanizing, money running, criminal. Hence I
    have been cheering on her nemesis Donald J. Trump. Now I am coming to the
    realization that Donald J. Trump is, at best, a greedy, arrogant, overbearing and
    boorish child, and that in any case, the dominant players in his administration are
    evil to the core.
    Well I agree with your first two paragraphs regarding Clinton/Bush/Clinton and
    Obama was just another puppet it seems. Trump is all what you say he is and the
    recent recruits from the neo -con wing is worrying. From what its seems Trump was
    asked to run with the backing of the military and that they were going to move on
    Obama , but decided to wait and see if they could win in the ballot box. This
    seems a bit risky for a strategy as Hillary was favourite to win easily. Unless mil
    intel was telling them the true state of the polls and feeling around the country
    which was not that difficult as Trump was speaking to full stadiums and Hillary's
    were half empty and the momentum was with him from the primaries.

    Its difficult to predict what is going to happen because so far its been so contradictory
    Trump has secured the backing of the military by increasing their budgets for
    equipment which has pleased the mil ind complex's. He has exposed ' a deepstate '
    not the real hidden hand. His tweets bypass the press which allows us to follow
    more closely even if we are playing catch up and guessing .I like Lionel's attitude
    that this is a fun ride which started with Brexit for me but has been going on
    since WW11 and beyond in its current forms with the globalist/NWO agendas.

    I know you have seen all this before Paul as you say and so have many others
    including myself.But for good or bad something feels different this time , though I
    am not holding my breath as the ba-----'s will try to get back to 'normal' asap....


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    I did not expect Trumps foreign policy to be so prevalent particularly with N & S
    Korea , China, Japan and Russia does have a border with North Korea and other
    players in the theatre are at least coming together for possible de escalation of
    tension and possible denuclearisation of the peninsular.

    The Middle east region after pulling out of the Iran deal and the new embassy in
    Jerusalem, and just as we thought Trump was winding down the CIA in Syria. Israel
    could draw him back in by going after Iranian mil assets around Damascus . Is
    Netanyahu hoping his friend will come to his aid if he starts something ?

    There is also the Ukraine which seems to have cooled down since Sen Mc Cain's
    illness and Lindsey's conversion to 'Trumpism' and possibly CIA activities curtailed
    for now. There is a large ethnic Russian speaking population in the country which is
    the cause of ongoing friction there and Moscow will not give up the Crimea or allow
    the rebels be overrun without a political compromise.

    What should Trump do to make Singapore summit successful?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan6-IKEL9M
    Lt. Gen. Richard Newton reacts on 'Fox & Friends First.'....( 5 mins)...

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    IRAN-ISRAEL WAR STARTS? INSANE ELITES! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61DBy2UWIeM
    Published on 10 May 2018...( 21 mins).....

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    The REAL Middle East Nuclear Threat.....Israel.



    corbettreport Published on 10 May 2018
    TRANSCRIPT AND MP3 AUDIO: https://www.corbettreport.com/israeli...

    There is in fact a Middle Eastern nation that is in fact in control of a vast,
    undeclared stockpile of nuclear weapons. This nation does have the capability of
    deploying those weapons anywhere in the region. It is not a signatory to the
    nuclear non-proliferation treaty and its arsenal has never been inspected by any
    international agency. But this nation is not Iran. It's Israel
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Further to "Q's" post above,

    Scientists Have Found A Way to Photograph People in 3-D through Walls Using WiFi (click to enlarge)

    Attachment 37736

    ... and the Anon's comments:

    Wifi camera sees through walls

    CERN comes to mind… on a larger scale.. energetic induction from 'elsewhere'… ← jumping in on BWF. thx again!

    BTW.. they're opening up the pipeline on modems from your homes... creating data lakes.. they'll be using WiFi antennae as '3D modeling security' cam & piping to ISP… (they can model as far as signal goes - ie entire property)…

    5G no different, so presume planetary modeling underway.

    *intimate* knowledge with affil vendors, backend, modems & RFID… could be incidental, but spidey sense is going off

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/15/inve...ger/index.html

    https://www.businessinsider.nl/wifi-...onal=true&r=US

    Scientists "conveniently" (and purely by happen stance) found a way to 3D model using WiFi - surely this wasn't previously known
    I'm not sure how this relates or was introduced by Q ...
    The technique mentioned is actually not new and already exists for a couple of years. Since wifi routers and modems do have transmitters and
    receivers built in they can also function similar to a radar. So it is not actually a photograph but a more like a 3D model composed by data
    of microwave refllections. The shorter the wavelength (higher frequency) the better the resolution is of the 'image'.
    Does this ring a bell when they propose to use even higher frequencies for e.g. 5G ...

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    Enjoyed your post, Paul! Let's face it....the Rothchilds have "owned" the West since the Napoleonic Wars. Does it surprise you that they "own" our President?! If it is true that some branch of the Military approached him with backing, then I would say he IS just the man to be exposing the underbelly the Deep State Pedo Empire.

    Apparently, since 1789 the bankers of Eng. have owned us anyways! Jake Morphonios recently posted "The Rothchild, Syria Connection"....excellent! Sorry I don't do links! I guess our "reality" is that we live in a flawed system & we are all making the best of it that we can.

    I'm sure all of us have things in our past that we would not want exposed to the public! The Donald seems to have just the personality to pull off this Draining the Swamp thing. We DO want the pedo empire exposed & shut down...don't we?!

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    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    Enjoyed your post, Paul! Let's face it....the Rothchilds have "owned" the West since the Napoleonic Wars. Does it surprise you that they "own" our President?! If it is true that some branch of the Military approached him with backing, then I would say he IS just the man to be exposing the underbelly the Deep State Pedo Empire.

    Apparently, since 1789 the bankers of Eng. have owned us anyways! Jake Morphonios recently posted "The Rothchild, Syria Connection"....excellent! Sorry I don't do links! I guess our "reality" is that we live in a flawed system & we are all making the best of it that we can.

    I'm sure all of us have things in our past that we would not want exposed to the public! The Donald seems to have just the personality to pull off this Draining the Swamp thing. We DO want the pedo empire exposed & shut down...don't we?!


    I posted this under the Syrian War thread, but I thought it might serve well here also.

    The Rothschild Syria Connection - Major Revelations (Jake Morphonios is a professional freelance investigator)

    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    If this was in Iran I'm sure the US/UK media would have shown it I have not seen it
    on any mainstream media. Ray was still shook up when speaking to reporter on
    his release from his overnight stay in jail. The police were over reacting and acting
    out for the press cameras it looked like to me. Ray is a old hand at protests and
    has been manhandled before but this was over the top by the security.....

    It was sad to hear him concerned for his glasses and the lack of concern shown
    from the police for the frail bones of an elderly person and the bruises on Rays hand
    shows the lack of compassion in these people. Yes they have to be careful of real
    threats but 30 seconds should have shown them he was a senior activist and one
    officer firmly on each arm could have led him out safely......


    'Took chairman at word': Ray McGovern left bruised for asking on Haspel's part in
    torture program


    Published on 11 May 2018....( 1 min )....
    A man who was violently escorted out of a Senate hearing and detained on Wednesday,
    has been released. Walking out of the court facility, 79-year-old CIA veteran Ray McGovern
    showed bruises he blamed on security. He was one of the protesters who interrupted the
    session denouncing the controversial CIA chief nominee Gina Haspel.
    Check out http://rt.com

    RAY MCGOVERN FORCIBLY DRAGGED OUT OF COURT ROOM BY CAPITOL POLICE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncyKT5g3Y3c
    Published on 9 May 2018
    Former CIA analyst and anti-war activist Ray McGovern was forcibly removed from
    the US Senate hearing where Gina Haspel, President Donald Trump’s nominee for
    CIA director, was answering questions about her record on torture.
    McGovern was dragged from the room by Capitol Police after demanding that
    Haspel answer questions put to her about the waterboarding of terror suspects at a
    CIA “black siteAs McGovern struggled, police repeatedly shouted at him to “stop
    resisting!” Due to the commotion in the room, it was unclear exactly what
    McGovern said to Haspel. He wrote an opinion piece headlined, “Will a Torturer
    Become CIA Director?” ahead of the nomination hearing, claiming that the torture
    is not only immoral, but fails to give the correct intelligence.

    Before the McGovern incident, Haspel was interrupted by another lone protester. A
    woman, wearing a red t-shirt and shouting “Bloody Gina!” and “you are a torturer!”
    was also removed by police.

    “Bloody Gina” was the nickname given to Haspel by her CIA colleagues, according
    to whistleblower John Kiriakou, who also claimed that Haspel personally tortured
    people because she “enjoyed it”.

    ==================================================
    ==================================================

    " This is disturbing in any country let alone the land of the not so free it seems "...


    Police Brutalize 78-Year-Old CIA Whistleblower Protesting at Torturer Gina Haspel’s Senate Hearing

    TheRealNews
    Published on 9 May 2018
    Ray McGovern, who worked as a CIA analyst for 27 years, disrupted the Senate
    confirmation hearing for CIA director nominee Gina Haspel, protesting her
    overseeing of torture. Police threw the 78-year-old whistleblower to the ground,
    dislocating his arm.
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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Further to "Q's" post above,

    Scientists Have Found A Way to Photograph People in 3-D through Walls Using WiFi (click to enlarge)

    Attachment 37736

    ... and the Anon's comments:

    Wifi camera sees through walls

    CERN comes to mind… on a larger scale.. energetic induction from 'elsewhere'… ← jumping in on BWF. thx again!

    BTW.. they're opening up the pipeline on modems from your homes... creating data lakes.. they'll be using WiFi antennae as '3D modeling security' cam & piping to ISP… (they can model as far as signal goes - ie entire property)…

    5G no different, so presume planetary modeling underway.

    *intimate* knowledge with affil vendors, backend, modems & RFID… could be incidental, but spidey sense is going off

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/15/inve...ger/index.html

    https://www.businessinsider.nl/wifi-...onal=true&r=US

    Scientists "conveniently" (and purely by happen stance) found a way to 3D model using WiFi - surely this wasn't previously known
    I'm not sure how this relates or was introduced by Q ...
    The technique mentioned is actually not new and already exists for a couple of years. Since wifi routers and modems do have transmitters and
    receivers built in they can also function similar to a radar. So it is not actually a photograph but a more like a 3D model composed by data
    of microwave refllections. The shorter the wavelength (higher frequency) the better the resolution is of the 'image'.
    Does this ring a bell when they propose to use even higher frequencies for e.g. 5G ...
    It wasn't introduced by "Q" - it was introduced by the Anons researching, "Facebook records everything" and a pointer to just how advanced that technology has become. (See the last "Q" post #1338 & the "China monitoring image"). Yes, a definite pointer to 5G.

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    No, it's not new. But how far has it advanced? Is the average "Joe" even aware of it?

    What's to come?
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    Quote No, it's not new. But how far has it advanced? Is the average "Joe" even aware of it?
    Heres one for you Kiwi I thought of it earlier when I saw the clip you posted
    on the previous page and how science/science fiction drives imagination/creation
    into reality by the frequencies of the spoken word etc and I do think there is
    something to it. But the Chinese thing above reminded me of some of the Ion
    material which is vast and one of the things discussed was that China was given
    super computer knowledge from ET's in 1995 and is why they lead in that
    field........ Also there is another humanoid race more reptilian but human looking
    called the Lemurians that live among us. Other ET's are here to.......
    Lemurians | Lizard People
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1058065
    XCon 2005 - Charles Hall - The Tall Whites - ET Experiences in the Nevada Desert
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...+cidersomerset

    Talking of which this weeks dot connector from David is about the Middle east....

    Israel's Global Censorship & How Police & Governments Are Helping Them Do It


    Published on 11 May 2018

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    Danny Danon on US embassy moving to Jerusalem: Other countries will follow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGgAJuNTqD4
    Published on 11 May 2018....Fox...( 5 mins)....
    Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. Danny Danon on President Trump's decision to
    move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, the Iran nuclear deal and Israel
    hitting Iran in Syria.

    ====================================================
    ====================================================

    Trump announces plan to bring drug prices "back down to Earth"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd6SbWa0vPA
    Published on 11 May 2018...CBS...
    "This is a total rip off, and we are ending it," President Trump said in his speech
    about how his administration is working to end costly drugs

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    Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sarah Sanders

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvRrbIIxdU
    The White House....11/5/18
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    JOHN KIRIAKOU, CIA Torture, Gina Haspel - ALEX JONES INFOWARS


    INFO WARS NEWS ....Published on 11 May 2018...( 30 mins)

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    9/11 GRAND JURY PROCESS BEGINS!! - ALEX JONES INFOWARS


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x35eIRnE7qI
    Published on 11 May 2018....Real News...( 29 mins)...
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    Latest "Q" posts #1339 - 1340

    https://qanon.pub/
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    1339
    Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 9b1a97 1372772 📁
    May 11 2018 12:12:38 (EST)
    Expand your thinking.
    Why are we being attacked?
    Why are we being attacked by people who claim to be PRO-POTUS?
    Do we have a face?
    Do we have a name?
    Do we use platforms whereby we collect followers?
    Selfless.
    Zero vanity.
    Why are we here?
    Why do we ask questions?
    The choice has always been yours.
    Use logic.
    Free information.
    What draws people here?
    Expanding exponentially?
    They all claim to be insiders.
    They all claim to have insider contacts.
    They do not.
    Patriots do NOT reveal classified information.
    Why do we communicate this way?
    Think for yourself.
    Clickbait.
    We are a threat to profiteering.
    Information should flow freely w/o costs.
    We established a series of 'proofs' for this specific reason.
    Undeniable.
    Unpredictable.
    Coincidence after Coincidence.
    Growth due to confirmations.
    Real source(s) communicating w/ the people.
    Unrestricted.
    TOGETHER.
    Control the information (THEY).
    Harness followers / profiteering (THEY).
    Define Media.
    Primary goal of the Media?
    To Sell (each selling a dif narrative - set of targets).
    Selling makes money.
    Be careful who you follow.
    Define 'Patriot'.
    They want you DIVIDED.
    Attacks will only get worse.
    Q
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    Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 9b1a97 1373162 📁
    May 11 2018 12:42:48 (EST)
    This is why we are here.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawaken..._how/📁
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    This is the Reddit posting "Q" refers to in #1340 (above), minus the embedded sublinks to videos etc (there are a ton of them, just marked in blue in this post - would take me all day to re-embed them here). I've included the entire text only in case the Reddit post disappears, as they have in the past. With that in mind it is worthwhile to check those links in the original. If you've been following "Q", you'll be familiar with the videos in any case and can get the jist of this article without them. If you haven't, then just go straight to the original.

    (Don't worry about the writer referring to "Q" as a single individual and a "he" & "him" - it reads more easily that way )


    NOTE: Fans of Alex Jones/InfoWars/Zak/Jerome Corsi probably aren't going to like this.

    The long and secret info wars against Q and how he stayed alive. You really need to know this and move on. self.greatawakening

    submitted 1 day ago by SerialBrain2#Releasethetexts - Q

    I promised there would be a follow up to my post about Q1295 Be careful who you are following. Here it is. It's a long post but if you are a Q follower, this information is worth knowing.

    As many among you already know, Dr. Corsi is just the tip of the iceberg. There are dark forces at work trying to divide us and hijack Q’s work and our Movement. I will show you today who these dark forces are and how they are related to Dr. Corsi.

    To those who think this issue should be put to rest for the sake of unity, this is my response:

    1. if Q himself has spoken about it here after having put up with these dark forces trying to undermine him for months, he must have some kind of intel pushing him to react;
    2. A glass of fine wine mixed with water is no longer fine wine and is certainly not water;
    3.When a snake enters the house, there is no time for poetry: you secure the kids, close the doors and do what you have to do.

    The Truth has a price my friends and no strong movement in human history has succeeded avoiding the issues challenging its foundations. Roses are beautiful, but they come with thorns. To be safe, we need to know how to hold them. This is why we are here today. We owe it to Trump, we owe it to Q, we owe it to the patriots who have sacrificed their lives for True Freedom, we owe it to ourselves for our efforts to not go to waste and above all, we owe it to the abused children whose lives, safety and freedom depend on the success of our Movement. Isn’t this the ultimate reason we are all here?

    Let’s get to it.

    Q’s first days were not easy. At all. Immediately after his first posts on October 2017, a violent information war was launched against him to ridicule him and silence him. All sorts of vicious information war techniques were used against him. I will show you some of them in this post. Q stoically stood still and after 3 months, despite this info-war against him, his audience grew to the point the phenomenon could not be ignored anymore. On December 08 2017, Infowars resorts to inviting Jordan Sather from Destroy the Illusion to talk about Q. Even though Jordan’s main field of expertise is secret space programs, free energy and the like he has been following Q on his YT channel and has done an excellent job bridging Q with the masses. When Jordan is invited by Infowars, we can see how proud he is: tweet. (link at original article)

    Let’s listen to Jordan and Roger Stone’s conversation until 6:40: video. (link at original article)

    Did you catch what Roger Stone is implying? This is the first info-war technique I want to show you. Stone is an old fox, he knows all the subtle communication techniques used in information warfare to swing people’s opinion and spread confusion. He knows how the subconscious mind works and how it makes an association between a skillfully asked question and its implied response. For clarity, here is Roger Stone’s question: Img1 (link at original article)

    You see it now? He is implying and subtly instilling in people’s mind through his timed and insidious question that the Q phenomenon Jordan has described may just be bots or humans hired to limit Infowars’ reach and cut them off from those who follow them. This is Roger Stone essentially saying: “Infowars is a shareholder in the election of the President and we will not accept to lose the leverage we have because of some bot playing on 8chan”. You think it’s far-fetched? Bear with me…

    December 24 2017. For the first time Alex Jones talks about Q. At last. It’s been 3 months! You can find the entire video here so nobody can accuse me of taking things out of context. Let’s listen to him from 0:54 to 1:56. video.(link at original article)

    As you can see, Jones starts with Q but immediately shuts him down by saying this: Img2 (link at original article). This information warfare technique is used to zero or reduce the relevancy of the subject: you name the subject (Q), then you immediately replace him in people’s mind by talking about another person (Zak) with praises and hypertrophy. Then Jones goes into a long verbal journey about Zak, the color of the moon and other irrelevant subjects, beating around the bush, preparing, preparing, until he could finally throw this at his audience (watch until 8:46) video. (link at original article)

    There are 2 techniques used here. The first one is Downgrading. Alex claims to know who Q is, where he get his info, Q is not really high level… secondarily… That technique is pretty straightforward.

    Did you catch the second one? At 8:19 he says: “so they want to take Trump out in November, but we dodged it, and people go: look Q anon is not right, it didn’t happen”.

    Q never said Trump was going to be taken out on November. Alex Jones did. You see how he did it: he lied, then he attributed the lie to Q, then he defends him. This is another information warfare technique consisting of artificially victimizing someone in order to pull his base. You push someone through the balcony, you take the stairs to catch him and then pay for his funeral…

    But it gets better:

    January 5 2018. Alex Jones invites Zak. The YT video title is “High Level Intelligence Source Confirms QAnon Is REAL”. You can watch the entire video later. It’s a 23 minute video. Despite the title, Q is not mentioned any single time except at the 10th minute when Alex says the following; let’s listen until 11:15: video .(link at original article)

    If you take a look at this composition, you realize Alex has obviously explored Q’s board. He is ridiculing him and asking people to hold on to Zak, his “real Q Anon” who is not a “LARP” acting in “Fantasy Land”. Unlike Q, his beloved Zak is acting in the “real world”. Sounds familiar? Yes… He is echoing his friend Roger Stone! They both talked about it and both have agreed their communication strategy was to convince Q is not real, he’s a bot or a hired human LARPING on 8Chan. Of course this strategy has to be implemented covertly in order not to risk any backlash from their audience that may have been following Q. Hence all these sneaky communication and manipulation techniques. After this vicious attack, Alex will never mention Q throughout the interview again. Those who are familiar with subliminal messages understand why the title did not have anything to do with the interview. The title was aiming at subliminally planting in people’s brains: ”The real QAnon is Zak”.

    The next day, commenting on Zak’s interview, Owen Shroyer airs a segment titled: “Infowars Own #QAnon Discusses Deep State” Img.(link at original article)

    Need I say more? You see the problem now?

    On January 27 2018, Infowars invites Jordan Sather for the second time. Despite the attacks, Q’s movement has grown exponentially so we are hoping to hear Jordan’s update on the Q phenomenon. Well, here is the entire video. There is not a single word about Q. Infowars invited him to talk about secret space programs. Not Q. Why is Infowars putting Jordan in the “Secret Space Program” drawer. Why? I will tell you. So that this can happen the next day: Img (link at original article)

    Infowars positions Dr. Corsi to be the in-house Q guy. Alex Jones has now realized he could not crush the Q phenomenon. He tried to confuse us, ridicule Q, downgrade him and replace him with Zak, didn’t work. So… If you can’t fight them, join them. Dr. Corsi, the Infowars Washington Correspondent is now missioned by Alex to lead the containment strategy and infiltrate Q. Notice the title: “What is QAnon?”. Not who. Again, the bot/LARP theory. But there is worse, did you catch it? Let’s zoom, look: Imgur.(link at original article)

    We clearly read on Infowars YT channel:“Dr. Jerome Corsi reveals what QAnon is and how it will be used against the people.“ What do you think this is? Error? No. This is a subliminal message folks. Your eyes will not notice it but your brain sees it. Once this particular message is processed by the subconscious mind, the conscious mind starts to develop defense mechanisms against Q and his message. Welcome to the info wars against Q! It has been Infowars against Q all along. MSM fights Q by trying to ignore him, Infowars fights Q by trying to crash him. Wake up.

    Now question: why do you think Alex did not use Jordan instead? Why didn’t he try to hijack Jordan’s base instead of starting from scratch with Corsi? Answer: because of this: Img. 4 days before, during the Infowars Fisa Memo debacle, Jordan showed his independence with this tweet. Alex Jones realized he was not controllable. Jordan is a real truth fighter. This is why Infowars invited him 3 days after this tweet to talk about what he likes and forget Q. Classic bait & control tactics. Once this bait was offered to Jordan, he could then position Dr. Corsi who would do what he is told about Q. Why? Because of this: Img (link at original article)

    Dr. Corsi’s YT channel was dead. His last video was published on 2014 and had 2,2k views. As the inactive Infowars DC correspondent who is invited from time to time on Infowars, Dr. Corsi is a vulnerable asset Jones can use to deal with the Q problem. He instructs him to start commenting on Q and to progressively build his crowd based on a business model that will not link him to Infowars. Perfect bone for an inactive asset. How do I know? Let’s listen to the following until 1:25: video (link at original article)

    Did you catch it? “a number of people who I consider to be very important to me said you’d better start looking at this”. How does that sound to you? “you’d better start looking at this”. You think it is a professional advice? Now that we know what we know, we know it's not. This is Alex essentially telling him: I tried to contain this thing, didn’t work, you’d better get in and take control remotely for us before it gets out of hands. This is how we got Corsi my friends. It has never been about decoding, it has always been about containing. Dr. Corsi is the Infowars Trojan horse sent to the Q Movement. And in exchange of this work, Jones is capitalizing on his vulnerability by allowing him to do his little business. Does Corsi know Jones’ endgame? I don’t believe so. I think he is just being manipulated by someone more intelligent. You know why? Because the next day, on the Hagmman Report, this is what he says, let’s listen carefully until 2:22: video (link at original article)

    So here the version slightly changes: he decided he would dig into the Q phenomenon after Trump’s executive order. It’s no longer “a number of people who I consider to be very important to me said you’d better start looking at this”. Now it’s about trump’s Executive Order. Why is the version changing? You got it: Alex told him he made a mistake at Tracy’s interview. He needed to change the story so Alex could remain invisible, working in the shadow. This corrected discrepancy is proof Corsi is just a pawn.

    Now let’s take a look at his Youtube and Twitter stats: Img Img (link at original article)

    As you can see, Dr. Corsis’s current notoriety has everything to do with Q. His book was published on March 2018 and you see there is no significant change on the curves at that date. So Dr. Corsi has successfully conducted his mission: infiltrate Q’s base and build a substantial number of followers he can now manipulate according to Alex’s instructions.

    Now the relevant question would be: is Dr. Corsi loyal to Q? I have the answer. I will give it to you.

    Do you remember Alex’s rant on Syria? I will not provide links because it was a dark moment for alternative media. Those who read Q knew all along what was going on in Syria, you may explore my posts about it. Events proved Alex was way off in his assessment of the situation and we are therefore entitled to question the relevancy of his “high level sources”. When asked about Alex’s meltdown, this is Corsi’s response, let’s listen until 4:40 video (link at original article)

    Now let’s analyze:

    “Alex has his own way of doing things, he doesn’t really need my approval to do it, and I don’t… you know…” Corsi stops after “and I don’t” and looks for his words. Now question: what do you think was the natural ending of this sentence? You got it: he was about to say: “and I don’t need his approval either”. But he could not say it because he knows it’s not true and, as a vulnerable asset in Alex’s mighty hands, he did not want to risk upsetting his boss with a little independence displayed in a YT interview.

    The other important sentence is this one: “The real strength of Alex is he’s the most disruptive media to the MSM that exists worldwide and as such he has tremendous impact.”

    The only reason Alex was able to disrupt MSM was because of privileged intel he had right? People came to him to know what the Mockingbird MSM would not disclose right? But then, as early as October 29th 2017, Q said this:

    Q12 Military Intelligence ref above is the absolute biggest inside drop this board will ever receive.

    Then, a few months later, he says this:

    Q761 This board has more power than you can imagine. Q
    Q768 This board in the coming months will be spread & discussed across ALL PLATFORMS.

    You see the problem? Q has been and still is an existential threat to Infowars. As simple as that. Alex Jones has done everything he could to shut down this phenomenon.

    “I don’t criticize Alex. I try to understand where he’s going and I try to appreciate it.” “I still greatly admire what Alex does and would never criticize him or offer advice or opinions unless he specifically asked and then I would be happy to share that privately with him.”

    Okay… It seems Corsi has beautiful manners. Now let’s listen to what he thinks about Q. I have already shared with you in my previous post how he ridiculed him even though he had no clue what Q was saying. But there is more here, let’s listen until 5:35 video. (link at original article)

    “Q is in disinformation”… “I started trashing Q“… “I was ready to quit this board all together and do it myself, and that is seriously under consideration by the way”.

    Whaaaaaaat?!

    So there you have it. Corsi would never criticize mighty Alex but Q? Oh no! Q is to be trashed and even replaced! Replaced? You see? We went full circle…

    Corsi would never advise Alex unless he was asked to and he would do it privately but Q? And Trump? Go listen to a few of his Youtube videos: Corsi tells them what to do with Mueller, Sessions, Iran… He knows exactly what to do on pretty much everything…

    Corsi even forgets the hand that fed him and dares to make threats: “and that is seriously under consideration by the way”.

    Yes… now that you have infiltrated our Movement, fed off of some of its crowd (check the stats above), you can get out with the hijacked goods the silence the anons (the real ones) have given you all these months out of respect, patiently putting up with your limitations and constant disrespect towards Trump and Q. You should have finished the mean and revealing sentence you have started (did you catch it?): “As far as I am concerned, Q has served…”. Watch the video again. Unbelievable. I hope to shortly see the memes of the side by side statements of Q, Jones and Corsi. This long post has given you the material to produce them. This post is based on facts. Real facts. It was not aiming at anything else except presenting verifiable facts so that people know who is who and what the motivations of each actor are.

    The final issue that needs to be addressed is the idea of a cult that has been agitated by Alex and Corsi. Those who follow Q are not in a cult. Q is given the respect he deserves because he is risking his life to give us the intel MSM or Infowars will not give us. Who told us about Saudi Arabia before it happened? Who told us Trump was in Las Vegas? Who told us the real reason behind the steel price issue? Who told us about Flynn it would be done in 30? Yes, Q delivered here too but Corsi failed to decode it correctly. And the list goes on… Q is listened to because we have proof he is right next to Trump, the President we elected to clean up the mess and save our children. People did not vote for Infowars, they voted for Trump. So you’ll have to accept it if they drop you without hesitation should you express any kind of opposition.

    Now that things are clarified, I think I will never have to write about Infowars, Alex Jones and Corsi again. We are busy. We have things to do.

    Q1296 You decide. This is not a game. The only profit we should all be striving for is TRUE FREEDOM. God bless you all. Q
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    I was just reading the above on reddit, KiwiElf.

    And thinking that what Q is referencing is about more than just the Alex Jones/Corsi issue.

    I've sometimes referred to media as MSM (Main Stream Media) and MSAM (Main Stream Alternative Media). I've long felt that Alex Jones is an example of the later.
    Someone is steering him, or perhaps, his narrative, in a way similar to how various MSM media is steered. There are others, too.
    Or perhaps it's just human nature to try play a role for the show, and then get caught up in it, like it's real.

    This is why Q is necessary, and turiya has talked about this many times over the past few months.

    People want to know the truth!!!

    It's hard to sift it out of all the layers of deception.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Quote No, it's not new. But how far has it advanced? Is the average "Joe" even aware of it?
    Heres one for you Kiwi I thought of it earlier when I saw the clip you posted
    on the previous page and how science/science fiction drives imagination/creation
    into reality by the frequencies of the spoken word etc and I do think there is
    something to it. But the Chinese thing above reminded me of some of the Ion
    material which is vast and one of the things discussed was that China was given
    super computer knowledge from ET's in 1995 and is why they lead in that
    field........ Also there is another humanoid race more reptilian but human looking
    called the Lemurians that live among us. Other ET's are here to.......
    Lemurians | Lizard People
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1058065
    XCon 2005 - Charles Hall - The Tall Whites - ET Experiences in the Nevada Desert
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...+cidersomerset

    Talking of which this weeks dot connector from David is about the Middle east....

    Israel's Global Censorship & How Police & Governments Are Helping Them Do It


    Published on 11 May 2018


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    Thanks Cider - & appreciated - also the reason I included the post on the newly released NETFLIX Movie "Anon" - very related, IMO . Ahhhh, wet weekend ahead; lots to watch!

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I was just reading the above on reddit, KiwiElf.

    And thinking that what Q is referencing is about more than just the Alex Jones/Corsi issue.

    I've sometimes referred to media as MSM (Main Stream Media) and MSAM (Main Stream Alternative Media). I've long felt that Alex Jones is an example of the later.
    Someone is steering him, or perhaps, his narrative, in a way similar to how various MSM media is steered. There are others, too.
    Or perhaps it's just human nature to try play a role for the show, and then get caught up in it, like it's real.

    This is why Q is necessary, and turiya has talked about this many times over the past few months.

    People want to know the truth!!!

    It's hard to sift it out of all the layers of deception.
    Likewise edina. In relation to "Q" only,... I went off Alex/InfoWars after his Syria meltdown & Corsi shortly thereafter. (Dark Journalist & Farrell wayyyy earlier!).

    It was becoming clear (to me) what was happening, and they just didn't know what they were talking about. (But ONLY in regard to their (mis)info on "Q". I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater - Am fine with the rest of what they all do).

    Things have changed.

    The reddit writer put it into words better than I can!
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I was just reading the above on reddit, KiwiElf.

    And thinking that what Q is referencing is about more than just the Alex Jones/Corsi issue.

    I've sometimes referred to media as MSM (Main Stream Media) and MSAM (Main Stream Alternative Media). I've long felt that Alex Jones is an example of the later.
    Someone is steering him, or perhaps, his narrative, in a way similar to how various MSM media is steered. There are others, too.
    Or perhaps it's just human nature to try play a role for the show, and then get caught up in it, like it's real.

    This is why Q is necessary, and turiya has talked about this many times over the past few months.

    People want to know the truth!!!

    It's hard to sift it out of all the layers of deception.
    Likewise edina. In relation to "Q" only,... I went off Alex/InfoWars after his Syria meltdown & Corsi shortly thereafter. (Dark Journalist & Farrell wayyyy earlier!).

    It was becoming clear (to me) what was happening and they just didn't know what they were talking about. (But ONLY in regard to their (mis)info on "Q". I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater - Am fine with the rest of what they all do).

    Things have changed.

    The reddit writer put it into words better than I can!
    got the feeling things are gunna get pretty messy i mean REALLY messy

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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    I was just reading the above on reddit, KiwiElf.

    And thinking that what Q is referencing is about more than just the Alex Jones/Corsi issue.

    I've sometimes referred to media as MSM (Main Stream Media) and MSAM (Main Stream Alternative Media). I've long felt that Alex Jones is an example of the later.
    Someone is steering him, or perhaps, his narrative, in a way similar to how various MSM media is steered. There are others, too.
    Or perhaps it's just human nature to try play a role for the show, and then get caught up in it, like it's real.

    This is why Q is necessary, and turiya has talked about this many times over the past few months.

    People want to know the truth!!!

    It's hard to sift it out of all the layers of deception.
    Yes, edina. You beat me to the punch. What Kiwi has posted from the redditt board, is exactly what I was referring to when I said that there is a major split that is ever-deepening & ever-widening, between those that follow the narrative that the MSM is pumping out, and the narrative as to what the alt-media is pumping out & also between all others that are paying attention to what Q has been & is pointing us to with his dropping of posts...

    Alex claims to be the "tip of the spear". He has a great hubris working. He is identified with being that tip of the spear. And will fight tooth & nail to keep that position.

    Enough said for now.
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    As for as the "sky event," the SpaceX rocket just lifted off. Shook my house. (Launch begins at about the 17:00 min. mark.)



    SpaceX is targeting launch of Bangabandhu Satellite-1 on Friday, May 11 from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center, Florida. The two-hour launch window opens at 4:14 p.m. EDT or 20:14 UTC. A backup launch window opens on Saturday, May 12 at 4:15 p.m. EDT or 20:15 UTC.

    Bangabandhu Satellite-1 will be deployed into a geostationary transfer orbit (GTO) approximately 33 minutes after launch.

    The Bangabandhu Satellite-1 mission will be the first to utilize Falcon 9 Block 5, the final substantial upgrade to SpaceX’s Falcon 9 launch vehicle. Falcon 9 Block 5 is designed to be capable of 10 or more flights with very limited refurbishment as SpaceX continues to strive for rapid reusability and extremely high reliability.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Damn. Double, triple, quadruple damn.

    I've been here before.

    You and everyone else Paul. I've been in this since the early 70's when I first read the book "None Dare Call It a Conspiracy" and nothing has really changed. Yes, more people are aware of the corruption, but what to do in our awareness?

    My friends and I drove 2 hrs to San Francisco to march in everyone of the peace marches to keep baby Bush from invading Iraq. Multiple millions around the world did the same - remember? Did it have an affect.

    The movie Syriana says it all. Not a great movie, but with a true message. The truth is even the spies aren't sure who they really work for and if they are white or black hats. You're right: It is evil vs evil. But I must admit, there are also degrees in corruption and evil. If Trump can get rid of the pedophilia, sex trafficking and Satanic stuff, that would be great. But the rest will still be there.

    My only "sliver of hope" is that Q is really who we want to think they are and they are only using Trump as a figure head and in the end will dump him - or convert him. Q did say that they are saving Israel for last. But did they mean to take down as in NK or to rise up as Corsi tells us the bible states.


    Corruption is how and why they win and they are perfectly comfortable with it, because they want to win at all cost.


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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Further to my "Q" & Reddit Post 4292 (above), here's the complete list of videos, images, articles & links included by the Reddit author, in order of appearance, if anyone wants to archive all the "bits". (I have!)

    He put a LOT of work into that.

    REDDIT Article References & "Q" Post #1340

    1340
    Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 9b1a97 1373162 📁
    May 11 2018 12:42:48 (EST)

    This is why we are here.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawaken...nst_q_and_how/

    Q

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    01 -Jordan Sather Tweet re Roger Stone Interview (Screen grab)
    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...06347928698880

    02-Jordan Sather/Roger Stone (Video @ 03:35 - 6:40)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLOv...youtu.be&t=215

    03-Roger Stone Image to Jordan Sather "CONFUSION" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/EK4b7Aw.png

    04 & 05-Exclusive" The Secrets of QAnon, The Storm, and The Deep State Counterstrike (Video @ 00:54 - 1:56)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6BX...=youtu.be&t=53

    06-Alex Jones "REPLACEMENT" Zak (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/NwsrQxP.png

    07-Exclusive" The Secrets of QAnon, The Storm, and The Deep State Counterstrike (Video @ 07:10 - 08:46)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6BX...youtu.be&t=430

    08-Alex Jones "DOWNGRADING" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/z4ueO91.png

    09-Alex Jones, High Level Intelligence Source Confirms QAnon Is REAL (Video @ 10:36 - 11:15)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnB...youtu.be&t=636

    10-Alex Jones Composition "RIDICULING" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/5SynTxC.png

    11-InfoWars Owen Shroyer Infowars Own QAnon "REPLACEMENT" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/SYnvdYd.png

    12-JORDAN SATHER, TYLER NIXON: Prez Trump Set To Unveil Secrets Of Universe - ALEX JONES INFOWARS (Video @ 00:00 - 17:16)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK6zi-6X2_0

    13-InfoWars Jerome Corsi "INFILTRATION" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/KVYO3bP.png

    14-InfoWars Alex Jones "SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/1ngJPXq.png

    15-Fact Check: Did Infowars Release the 'Secret FISA Memo'? (Article)
    https://www.weeklystandard.com/holme...cret-fisa-memo

    16-Jordan Sather Tweet "UNCONTROLLABLE" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/Y6KEucp.png

    17-Jerome Corsi "RESURRECTION" (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/KaJhxZ1.png

    18-Our journey into "The Storm": An interview with Dr. Jerome Corsi (Video @ 00:29 - 01:25)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcL3...=youtu.be&t=29

    19-Dr. Jerome Corsi - Analysis of Recent Q-anon Postings - The Hagmann Report (Video @ 01:05 - 02:22)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn-n...=youtu.be&t=65

    20-Jerome Corsi YT Image Stats (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/4uitPhz.png

    21-Jerome Corsi Twitter Image Stats (Screen grab)
    https://i.imgur.com/4RqK1x7.png

    22-April 14 Dr. Jerome Corsi Decodes QANON Re Current News (Video @ 02:27- 04:40)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7fQ...youtu.be&t=147

    23-Reddit Previous Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawaken...ag&sh=0dceaa85

    24-May 05 Dr Jerome Corsi Discuss Latest QANON posts CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS (Alex Jones Meltdown) (Video @ 05:07- 05:35)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR-9...youtu.be&t=307
    Last edited by ThePythonicCow; 12th May 2018 at 00:15. Reason: linkify link to post 4292

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