no-one has the definitive truth..have you?

[blue777]

[QUOTE=RedeZra;11992][CENTER]

[I][COLOR="darkorange"]survival of the fittest

that is the cold logic of evolution


pride position and power are paramount for people lost in the world


where success is measured by wealth

and survival becomes the sole purpose of life


but we cannot trick or bribe death

this simple fact makes the wise lead a spiritual life


there is no intelligence at play without spirituality

it's just a misnomer for scraping the surface of existence

quote
survival of the fittest
that is the cold logic of evolution

That fits in nicely with dr deagles thoughts and mine
lol

[RedeZra]

Posted by Lucrum (here)
My reasoning as to why it can't lies in my view of reality and truth to be in the eye of the beholder.

is it possible to live a lie


if Truth is in the eye of the beholder

than we have as many truths as there are eyes

and so we have destroyed the very meaning of the word

for Truth by definition changes not but is the same for everyone everywhere ever

else we might as well erase the word from our dictionaries


so while we live our lives as we see it

as a part of this grand cosmic orchestra

we should welcome and accept differences

but not confuse it with Truth

which is transcendence of differences

[Samarkis]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

is it possible to live a lie


if Truth is in the eye of the beholder

than we have as many truths as there are eyes

and so we have destroyed the very meaning of the word

for Truth by definition changes not but is the same for everyone everywhere ever

else we might as well erase the word from our dictionaries


so while we live our lives as we see it

as a part of this grand cosmic orchestra

we should welcome and accept differences

but not confuse it with Truth

which is transcendence of differences

I have been asked this several times and I have thought on this..........

My views are that we have levels on levels of dimensions.........and at each level there is a percieved truth to that level..........however, if one wants to find truth in it's highest form, one has to be tolerant of another's perception of truth. The real principle of truth is to find the truth that is inclusive of all that is good & nurturing without harming another.........then there is all the varying degrees of mostly truths.........or best truths for a given situation..........When one realizes that they are co-creators of their own destiny........one can intend for the best situations,best solutions so that one has the best & highest choice of action so as to stay within the highest of all truths.......

I will give a very small example.........

A teacher is teaching a class of children......the teacher physically has no control on the behavior of her pupils........however, being a co-creator she can ask for highest guidance how to interact with her pupils with highest wisdom.......she can ask & give blessings to each child that they have a great experience in her class & that in their highest good they will succeed ....as the classroom is only a preparation for the children's life in the world....what messages of wisdom can she bring that will light a fire of desire to learn ,make a difference & be examples of exemploray humans to the world.......By EVEN just focusing on these principles the teacher will already bring a different energy to her classroom & pupils!!! One can take this anywhere and apply!!! By the subtle difference in focus....the children will behave a little different!! Perhaps a troublemaker child WON'T be sent to the office that day....and the child and the family won't be under added stress and a whole cycle of negativity will have been prevented......better to diffuse and better to re-direct energies for higher purpose! Keep one's end goals in sight and request best solutions!!!

I realize this is an over simplified example....Life should not be overly complicated either!!! We should search for best solutions(not just OUR desires).........request guidance of higher self always and one may be surprised at the opportunities that appear!!!

Much Light!

[blue777]

Posted by samvado (here)
all generalizations are wrong


...and you know all this because?
... and you feel the need to throw it at us because?

Hello Sam...I believe Dr DEAGLE is speaking the truth and letting us know about reality

[Samarkis]

Hello Blue777 !
I appreciate that opinion......

(I remember that particular discussion on a different thread)

What I am talking about in my post above....is Truth in general......The more we open our minds & hearts....the more of the "whole picture" becomes revealed....and more truth becomes available......

: )

[blue777]

[QUOTE=Samarkis;12067]Hello Blue777 !
I appreciate that opinion......

(I remember that particular discussion on a different thread)

What I am talking about in my post above....is Truth in general......The more we open our minds & hearts....the more of the "whole picture" becomes revealed....and more truth becomes available......

yes i agree a more SENTIENT approach, love compassion altruism
lolblue

[RedeZra]

Posted by Samarkis (here)
My views are that we have levels on levels of dimensions.........and at each level there is a percieved truth to that level..........however, if one wants to find truth in it's highest form, one has to be tolerant of another's perception of truth. The real principle of truth is to find the truth that is inclusive of all that is good & nurturing without harming another.........

yes

we need to discern between facts and fiction in this world of relativity

Truth is Absolute

and cannot be conveyed but experienced

Truth is Being

so we should say that's the fact instead of that's the truth

Truth is Compassion

so when we are tolerant and want the best for all

and look to the unity in this apparent diversity

we are conforming to Truth


this is the ABC of Truth

[blue777]

Posted by samvado (here)
The word research is probably the most misused word on this platform.

Reseach is meant to be a scientific term. it includes FACT CHECKING and VERIFICATION on an OBJECTIVE LEVEL. That means if i do the same i come to more or less the same conclusions as you did. now, how does that sound in the light of your RESEARCH.

I am not stating "I reseached the morning paper" - when i just read it. although it might be feaseble to research it, people usually dont.

Have you researched or have you just READ ?
How do you verify your "intuitive" sources? Its one thing to hear voices, another to verify their content against reality.

if you havnt you are just another case of channeling.

hELLO SAM
THATS A BIT ARROGANT...i HAVE READ OVER 2,000 BOOKS , a host of infomation from the net, also studied sound in a Uni, healing and sound harmonics, the intuitive source is linked to positive sound harmoinics,and positive sound is linked to consciousness a higher level of consciousness, the union of light (reason) and sound(intuition) intellectual androgyny , union of opposites...have you reached that far yet? Enlightenment is not linked to reason alone.
lol
love of light

[samvado]

Posted by blue777 (here)
hELLO SAM
THATS A BIT ARROGANT...i HAVE READ OVER 2,000 BOOKS , a host of infomation from the net, also studied sound in a Uni, healing and sound harmonics, the intuitive source is linked to positive sound harmoinics,and positive sound is linked to consciousness a higher level of consciousness, the union of light (reason) and sound(intuition) intellectual androgyny , union of opposites...have you reached that far yet? Enlightenment is not linked to reason alone.
lol
love of light

Blue, you have tried in other places to hook me into your esoteric gobeldegook. I wont bite. If you like to continue to communicate with me you will have to straighten that or else you will end up on my ignore list, alongside gita and some others who have earned that honor by similar communcation tactics.

whats it gona be?

[Sunny d]

Posted by samvado (here)
Blue, you have tried in other places to hook me into your esoteric gobeldegook. I wont bite. If you like to continue to communicate with me you will have to straighten that or else you will end up on my ignore list, alongside gita and some others who have earned that honor by similar communcation tactics.

whats it gona be?

WOW Thats a rude statement....Deutsche grundlichkeit??? So you say there's no discussion possible, and there's only one truth and that happens to be yours??? Good luck on your lonely trip... Sad really

PS....You are on my ignorelist now, i had enough of reading your negativaty

[blue777]

reply to sam

Posted by Sunny d (here)
WOW Thats a rude statement....Deutsche grundlichkeit??? So you say there's no discussion possible, and there's only one truth and that happens to be yours??? Good luck on your lonely trip... Sad really

PS....You are on my ignorelist now, i had enough of reading your negativaty

Thanks sunny d......let the blind follow the blind and the ego

[blue777]

Posted by samvado (here)
Blue, you have tried in other places to hook me into your esoteric gobeldegook. I wont bite. If you like to continue to communicate with me you will have to straighten that or else you will end up on my ignore list, alongside gita and some others who have earned that honor by similar communcation tactics.

whats it gona be?

hello sam, competing against the EGO is not built into my sentient character, and humility and suffering are the keys to enlightenment , linked to Ormus and a host of other things...I think Gita is great...........................however I will not give up on you
lol
blue

[Eric J (Viking)]

What its gonna be Blue.... Did I fire six shots or was it five

Hey no worries Blue...I'm on the hit list as well...join the club!!!

If he carries on with his 'ignore list' he won't have any freinds left soon...

You gotta laugh!!!!!

viking

[blue777]

Posted by viking (here)
What its gonna be Blue.... Did I fire six shots or was it five

Hey no worries Blue...I'm on the hit list as well...join the club!!!

If he carries on with his 'ignore list' he won't have any freinds left soon...

You gotta laugh!!!!!

viking

Thanks Viking, the key of enlightenment is humility, therefore we must not give up on sam as we need the collective consciousness to change
lol
love of light

[Sunny d]

Posted by blue777 (here)
Thanks Viking, the key of enlightenment is humility, therefore we must not give up on sam as we need the collective consciousness to change
lol
love of light

Good luck....!

Probably your gonna need a sledgehammer to get those walls down. L o L

[Eric J (Viking)]

Bless you Blue...keep on trucking...

viking

[blue777]

Posted by samvado (here)
Blue, you have tried in other places to hook me into your esoteric gobeldegook. I wont bite. If you like to continue to communicate with me you will have to straighten that or else you will end up on my ignore list, alongside gita and some others who have earned that honor by similar communcation tactics.

whats it gona be?

well let me see.....is it to follow the EGO , OR BE A SENTIENT PERSON AND FOLLOW ALTRUISM COMPASSION AND LOVE , well, what does the collective consciousness say?
p.s.
we will not give up on you Sam
lol

[blue777]

Posted by viking (here)
What its gonna be Blue.... Did I fire six shots or was it five

Hey no worries Blue...I'm on the hit list as well...join the club!!!

If he carries on with his 'ignore list' he won't have any freinds left soon...

You gotta laugh!!!!!

viking

I got him on the list, that little optimist....gilbert and sullivan

[blue777]

Posted by Sunny d (here)
Good luck....!

Probably your gonna need a sledgehammer to get those walls down. L o L

right Sam, see if you have a sense of humour
KNOCK kNOCK ..WHO'S THERE?.... SAM AND JANET ...sam and janet who?(sung) SAM AND JANET EVENING.....

[Fredkc]

Was there a topic to this thread?

Fred