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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    But let's wait and see on that, as well, before we judge too soon
    yeah ...

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    When I heard that "q" targeted Iran (yes, 'targeted' is the correct word), I opened this thread to find out what the reaction was. I didn't even see anyone mention it. So I did.
    I count some 310 posts on this thread with the word "Iran" in them, including several responding, with some detail and care to clear posting, to your inquiry as to what we thought of Q's latest comments on Iran, none of which (did I miss one?) include any post of yours, responding on the substance of these several posts responding to your inquiry.

    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    And please, stop with the peacemaking... LOL
    Well, I tried.

    But I have now concluded, as you can see in my immediately preceding comment, that I have failed.

    Carry on.
    Ouch, Paul. No, you're missing it.

    On September 4th, I opened page 167 of this enormous thread, to see what the discussion was about Iran being targeted for regime change by "q". No one seemed to be mentioning it on that page, at all. As I mentioned, I did not, and have no plans to go back and read this thread. (But I really wonder how far back I would have had to go to read that someone, anyone, was discussing that "q" targeted, fingered, marked Iran for regime change. I don't think anyone was talking about it, or they would have quoted it back in response. I have a feeling your search was just for the word "Iran." And why would mention of the word "Iran" after I did, be tallied into that 310 number anyway? I mean, you're saying that I ignored 310 mentions that "q" targeted Iran with regime change, when I suspect the correct number is zero.)

    I think "q" just gave everyone a big fat clue as to the real "q" agenda and who is pulling "q's" strings, and I pointed it out. Everybody can process that, or ignore it as they see fit. I'm being treated (by some) as a troll here, and so will leave this thread.

    Now, with that, I will leave y'all to sleuthing, and wish you the best.


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    It's like 24 hours since John McCain was PUT to death...


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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    "q said":
    Free Iran!!!
    Fight
    Fight
    Fight
    Regime change.
    People have the power.
    We stand with you.
    Q.
    I guess those words have different connotations to different generations. My generation didn’t have as an extensive commie-vision indoctrination that the senior generation has had to shake off.

    My interpretation of the Q-post above, which I assumed to be self-evident given the context of the Q-drops:

    Free Iran!!! (Keep Iran free from the Ziocons who want to initiate a pretext for regime change in Iran)
    Fight, fight, fight (resist)
    Regime change (resist the nonsense propoganda pushed by the mainstream media who are advocating regime change in Iran)
    People have power (truth is more powerful than than the lies fed by mainstream media)
    We stand with you (we stand with truth)

    From my perspective, you’ve got to have had some extensive communist indoctrination to interpret that as a call to arms, or a call for actively pursuing regime change in Iran

    Do any Q followers interpret that as a call for regime change? Or is it just the SJW types — the outsiders looking in — the demographic of people who the Q-drops are specifically NOT tailored for, that interpret this as a call to arms?

    To interpret that as a call to arms, in favour of regime change, tells us more about the SJW mindset than it does about the Q-drops themselves. Unless there’s any other Q posts that support a theme of calls to arms in support of regime change?

    If there’s a pattern of similar Q-drops advocating for regime change, then, fair enough, Dennis may have a point — but, if that’s the only post Dennis is basing his interpretation on — then, those arguments are based on a very flimsy premise imo, which would explain why no one else in the Q community picked up on the malevolent nature of that particular drop.

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    Would you like to play a game?

    Let's play, DRAINING THE SWAMP
    "Time Management", "Project Management", or "Goal Setting" 101 (similar formula to a Marketing Plan) - on a Global Scale

    Make a "TO DO" list of everything you'd like to see sorted or exposed regarding the Deep State. (use the "Map" for this - I'm well over 100 "items" already) - you'll have to make "sub-tasks"

    Do a SWOT Analysis (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats) followed by - or in combination with - a SMART Analysis (acronyms); Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, Time - applied to EACH item

    Then look at that list and assign each item a Priority, based on the bigger picture. (Your intended timing to achieve this is within the next 6-10 years)
    1 = Urgent & Important
    2 = Important but NOT Urgent
    3 = Urgent but NOT Important (interruptions to your plan - you can only anticipate or allow for these events to happen)
    4 = NOT Important & NOT Urgent - which in regard to the "Bigger Goal", don't worry about it for now

    Take each item & figure out how long it's going to take to achieve it? Can't do that unless you have Resources.

    WHO & WHAT will be needed? Cost? (in detail with backup plans)

    HOW will it be done? (in detail with backup plans)

    Once you've figured all that out, lay it ALL out in chronological order. What item is 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc? Some will be parallel.

    Not something which can (legally) be done in a blink.

    NOT easy, is it?

    That should give everyone the sheer magnitude & scope of what is going down here.
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    That should give everyone the sheer magnitude & scope of what is going down here.[/COLOR]
    The depth, breadth, and variety of the corruption that has built up, over generations, in the Rothschild-Rockefeller wing of civilization is being scaled back.

    Don't worry - you won't be seeing David Rockefeller Jr or Jacob Rothschild standing beside you in the soup line at the homeless shelter. Nor worry that there are not other powerful families with genealogies going back thousands of years, who are picking up the slack.

    But some of the minions of some of their world-wide criminal syndicates are lawyering up or taking early retirement, and a few are no where to be found anymore.

    The scale of the criminal enterprises being scaled back is bigger than we'll ever know, bigger than any single human will ever grasp in detail.
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    @ Jayke re your above post;

    In a manner of speaking, that could be interpreted as "Regime Change," but one that is done by their people, just as "Q"/Trump is suggesting for the USA (and the rest of the world)... first, their "eyes must be opened".

    Psyop? Atticus? Corey Goode? Hardly compares, (irrespective of the number of posts on Avalon).

    At ANY time, has ANYONE seen ANYthing in their lifetime, as to what is now "happening" with "Q"?

    I'd call it, a "Revolution".

    Each to their own.
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    I would just like to ask a simple question here, to Dennis, Bill, or whoever else might be reading this thread that is not sold on this “cult”of Q.

    Now that everything is absolutely and provably unfolding to the Q narrative (Obama, HRC FISA abuse) and absolutely nothing has been proven true with the fake news narrative (Russia, Trump collusion) maybe it’s time to accept the quite obvious of who is being truthful?

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    This entire movement is a misdirect. War will inevitably further consolidate control over the human collective. Q is a state sponsored psiop serving as a means to that end.

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    Quote Posted by Honesty (here)
    This entire movement is a misdirect. War will inevitably further consolidate control over the human collective. Q is a state sponsored psiop serving as a means to that end.
    Then prove it.

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    This entire movement is a misdirect. War will inevitably further consolidate control over the human collective. Q is a state sponsored psiop serving as a means to that end.
    Yes- it could be. It is directing the conspiracy community towards narratives defending government actions that many would usually challenge. It is entirely possible at this point that Trump represents the WW3 candidate, but he needs to consolidate his power with a set piece , token baddie removal psi op (like when Mussolini decimated cosa nostra in Sicily).

    It could be something better. How to fight entrenched corruption throughout the most powerful & complex state that has ever existed? Trump cannot be too close to any information war against his opponents. It must be a bottom up process to clean things up. So you have mysterious people dropping hints. This is driving researchers towards existing information, that is being integrated into a 'great awakening' story that is taking shape now. We here are ahead of the curve in building this. From what we see, if the story being constructed becomes accepted or known in the mainstream, we will see a huge push for change from people. A popular movement for a revolution in transparency, democracy and accountability.

    So the enigma is that the least transparent, least accountable people, some posters on a board, are attempting to build a transparency movement globally. Far fetched? Many might think so. But is it real. Can anybody know at this stage?

    The hopeful pointers are that so many people in the establishment are already being discredited or resigning. Much more must come before November. Hightened discernment required. Mainstream media narratives dropping like flies, q narratives gaining credibility over time. They should not have touched the kids.

    Regarding Iran, if we are seeing a 'strings cut' type of scenario, we could hopefully be looking at people driven peaceful reforms there, together with REAL de-nuclearisation. Remaining hopeful.
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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    ...
    The hit pieces on QAnon cherry pick posts in isolation, and also conflate. It's a common tactic by propagandists. Most Q researchers are aware of this and frankly, don't pay any attention to the hit pieces.
    ...

    So the people actively engaged in researching the Q posts have the context of the earlier one, and many others, when considering the meaning of the one that Dennis emotionally triggered on.)...
    "Propagandist?"

    "Triggered?"

    One thing so far caught my eye, and I presented that one thing. To actually "cherry pick", one would have to read all the material. This was more like:

    Bill Ryan had examined the material dribbling out months ago, and is the most qualified of anyone here to discern between a real whistleblower and a psyop. "q" had an inane, "gamey", coy, teasing, sophomoric feel to the dribble and Bill told us that's not how whistleblowers act - and that in his opinion, it is a psyop. So, to me it was early identified as a psyop, and I paid no attention to it. When I heard that "q" targeted Iran (yes, 'targeted' is the correct word), I opened this thread to find out what the reaction was. I didn't even see anyone mention it. So I did. The general reaction is that if I didn't inhale all of the "q" dribbles, then I was not even qualified to wonder out loud why "q" is echoing netanyahu and the deep state, pounding the drums for regime change in Iran. Blasphemy!

    Well, you're not the only one reading this thread, and some others probably DO want less cultish reactions to the "anonymous" game clues (do you really think the nsa and cia don't know who the "q anon" group is?), and the accompanying sycophantic reactions to a few of trump's* ugly truths being stated. As each of the false prophets have been unmasked here on Project Avalon, many members are appreciative for the discernment. Some get bitter and leave when the story they believed is shown to be phony.

    Speaking of phony, so, is "q" supposed to be anonymous just to the public, or is the premise that "q" is also anonymous to the deep state? The deep state, including the nsa and cia who have access to, well, everything digital, are unable to identify the anti-deep state "q?" Doesn't that sound pretty hard to believe?

    *(because trump is germane to this thread, as this is all about trump and his administration. You wanna hear me rant about psychopathic criminals like killary and obama and sanders? I'll be happy to, in the appropriate thread. I'm not partisan. Partisans only know that the other guys are bad guys - I know it's all of them, not half of them.)
    Well Dennis has apparently moved on but I will respond to this.

    Because it seems to me to quite make the point that Dennis is not very well informed on the material provided and the proofs offered.

    Many of those following along for these many months, feel that Q has provided sufficient evidence to indicate he is backed with considerable intelligence capabilities, and many interpret that this (based on Q drops) is partly an internal war between the Nazi-CIA/Bush/Clinton side on the one hand and the (supposed) white hats in the NSA allied with components of military intelligence and Q.

    At least that is my current understanding. Those who have better command of the material can correct me as need be.

    Time will tell what this all means/meant.

    This may not be the best source, but in time I had at moment was first I came up with (I wonder if Alex/Corsi started out on the Q train but than AJ's Mossad handlers reeled them in?)

    https://www.exopolitics.org/qanon-is...nt-coup-detat/


    Quote According to veteran investigative reporter and best selling author, Dr. Jerome Corsi, he was approached three years ago by a group of generals and told that Donald Trump had been recruited by U.S. military intelligence to run in the 2016 Presidential elections, and subsequently help remove corrupt Deep State officials from positions of power. Corsi claims that QAnon represents the same group of senior military intelligence officials who are exposing the Deep State corruption and officials involved in a history of treasonous actions against the U.S. Republic.

    This is what Corsi said at a meeting on April 11, which also featured the founder of InfoWars.com, Alex Jones:

    About three years ago a group of Generals came to me, and it was explained to me that they were ready to conduct a coup d’etat. They were ready to move Barack Obama from office with military force. And then a few weeks later I got another call and said they were reconsidering.

    You know why they were reconsidering? [audience calls out answers] Because they talked to Donald Trump, and Trump had agreed he would run, and they agreed that if he would run, they would conduct their coup d’etat as a legitimate process, rooting out the traitors within government. And that pact between the military and Donald Trump has held, as we have been interpreting and watching, and Alex has been following QAnon.

    QAnon is military intelligence and close to Trump, and the intelligence we’ve getting, that we’ve explained on Infowars, really is a lot of the inside script.

    While Corsi didn’t name the generals or provide hard evidence for his startling claim, an examination of public comments by President Trump, QAnon and related political events do make Corsi’s extraordinary claim very plausible.

    It’s important to note that Corsi’s speech happened only a day after a tweet by President Trump featuring him with 20 senior U.S. military officials who dined with him the previous night:
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    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    Quote Posted by Honesty (here)
    This entire movement is a misdirect. War will inevitably further consolidate control over the human collective. Q is a state sponsored psiop serving as a means to that end.
    Yes- it could be. It is directing the conspiracy community towards narratives defending government actions that many would usually challenge. It is entirely possible at this point that Trump represents the WW3 candidate, but he needs to consolidate his power with a set piece , token baddie removal psi op (like when Mussolini decimated cosa nostra in Sicily).

    It could be something better. How to fight entrenched corruption throughout the most powerful & complex state that has ever existed? Trump cannot be too close to any information war against his opponents. It must be a bottom up process to clean things up. So you have mysterious people dropping hints. This is driving researchers towards existing information, that is being integrated into a 'great awakening' story that is taking shape now. We here are ahead of the curve in building this. From what we see, if the story being constructed becomes accepted or known in the mainstream, we will see a huge push for change from people. A popular movement for a revolution in transparency, democracy and accountability.

    So the enigma is that the least transparent, least accountable people, some posters on a board, are attempting to build a transparency movement globally. Far fetched? Many might think so. But is it real. Can anybody know at this stage?

    The hopeful pointers are that so many people in the establishment are already being discredited or resigning. Much more must come before November. Hightened discernment required. Mainstream media narratives dropping like flies, q narratives gaining credibility over time. They should not have touched the kids.

    Regarding Iran, if we are seeing a 'strings cut' type of scenario, we could hopefully be looking at people driven peaceful reforms there, together with REAL de-nuclearisation. Remaining hopeful.
    Just wanted to further highlight this as a great post in my view.
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    Today's Neon Revolt

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/09/0...ng-neonrevolt/

    extensively covers what he believes are Mossad attempts to sabotage the Q movement:

    Quote That tweet eventually lead to this news report, wherein Jack Posobiec reveals that “professional troll” @Microchip is actually the mind behind QAnon.


    Pffft…

    Yeah, I took exception to this last night, very publicly on Gab. And the reason I got involved was because, given what we know about Jack, I knew this was a Mossad attack from the very get-go.


    and the opinion that Hillary's extensive Kavanaugh tweet storm is due to:

    Quote
    But why is HRC afraid again?

    Because Kavanaugh knows everything about Vince Foster.



    https://www.inquisitr.com/4978830/br...-donald-trump/

    Of course, #LunaticLeftists tried to turn that around and say he was making a misogynist statement against all women, and thus, would be a danger to Roe v. Wade, when really, the truth is exactly as he said: HRC is a traitorous, murderous b****.

    And him getting into office would mean potential mega-disclosure on someone who was a victim of #Arkancide.

    That’s why she’s terrified.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Today's Neon Revolt

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/09/0...ng-neonrevolt/

    extensively covers what he believes are Mossad attempts to sabotage the Q movement:

    Quote That tweet eventually lead to this news report, wherein Jack Posobiec reveals that “professional troll” @Microchip is actually the mind behind QAnon.


    Pffft…

    Yeah, I took exception to this last night, very publicly on Gab. And the reason I got involved was because, given what we know about Jack, I knew this was a Mossad attack from the very get-go.


    and the opinion that Hillary's extensive Kavanaugh tweet storm is due to:

    Quote
    But why is HRC afraid again?

    Because Kavanaugh knows everything about Vince Foster.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/4978830/br...-donald-trump/

    Of course, #LunaticLeftists tried to turn that around and say he was making a misogynist statement against all women, and thus, would be a danger to Roe v. Wade, when really, the truth is exactly as he said: HRC is a traitorous, murderous b****.

    And him getting into office would mean potential mega-disclosure on someone who was a victim of #Arkancide.

    That’s why she’s terrified.
    Yeah, somebody in the Mossad world would no doubt have seen the following Q post... that would show some intelligence, ....mmmm.... would it not?



    Side note: Hey Dennis, why weren't you triggered by this one?

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    It's about Rule of Law, which has been sadly lacking over the past decades for those "in power"!

    This "system" has been entrenched for centuries.....more power to those trying to "unscramble the eggs"!

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    I'm watching the video linked in the last Q post right now... evidently Lindsey Graham is asking questions about military law vs criminal law.



    Anyone else thinking of that little Huma/Lindsey Graham exchange?
    This part of the questioning begins at 26:06.

    "Let's talk about the law and war."

    Lindsey Graham sets up this part of questioning prior to this by asking about Brett Kavanaugh's experience on 9/11.

    I'm watching this and I'm thinking... brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

    Because of all the hoopla surrounding this confirmation, more people than normal are watching this hearing.

    Hillary Clinton herself is going bonkers with Twitter threads asking people to Stop Kavanaugh. Also drawing more attention to the hearings.

    The emotionally hot headlines (click bait) are also drawing a lot of attention to these hearings.

    And, of course, Q is drawing attention to this particular part of the hearings.

    Millions of people read the Q-Posts. Millions.

    In effect, Lindsey Graham is educating the public about this issue while asking Kavanaugh these questions.
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    I thought the same thing endina "brilliant......absolutely brilliant".
    I felt this is so important that I've decided to transcribe this bit and added live links to the relevant points.

    Lindsey Graham, Brett Kavanaugh. Law and War.
    Start: 26:06
    LG: Let's talk about the law and war. Is there a body of law called the Law of Armed Conflict?

    BK: There is such a body, Senator.

    LG: Is there a body of law that's called basic Criminal Law?

    BK: Yes sir.

    LG: Are there differences between those two bodies of law?

    BK: Yes, Senator.

    LG: From an American citizens point of view, do your constitutional rights follow you; if you're in Paris, does the Fourth Amendment protect you as an American from your own government?

    BK: From your own government, yes.

    LG: Okay. So if you're in Afghanistan do your constitutional rights protect you against your own government?

    BK: If you're an American in Afghanistan you have constitutional rights as against the US government. That’s long-settled law.

    LG: Isn’t there also long-settled law that goes back to the Eisentrager case? I can't remember the name of it.

    BK: Johnson v. Eisentrager

    LG: Right. ... that American citizens who collaborate with the enemy have been considered enemy combatants?

    BK: They can be.

    LG: They can be.

    BK: They can be. They're sometimes criminally prosecuted, sometimes treated in the military.

    LG: Let's talk about can be. I think the –

    BK: Under Supreme Court precedent--

    LG: Right. There's a Supreme Court decision that said that American citizens who collaborated with
    Nazi saboteurs were tried by the military. Is that correct?

    BK: That is correct.

    LG: I think a couple of them were executed.

    BK: Yeah.

    LG: So if anybody doubts, there's a long-standing history in this country that your constitutional rights follow you wherever you go but you don't have a constitutional right to turn on your own government, and collaborate with the enemy of the nation. You'll be treated differently. What's the name of the case, if you can recall, that reaffirmed the concept that you could hold one of our own is an enemy combatant if they were engaged in terrorist activities in Afghanistan, are you familiar with that case ?

    BK: Yeah, Hamdi. (Hamdi v Rumsfeld)

    LG: Okay. So the bottom line is, on every American citizen; know you have constitutional rights but you do not have a constitutional right to collaborate with the enemy. There's a body of law well developed long before 9/11 that understood the difference between basic criminal law and the Law Of Armed Conflict (LOAC) pdf. Do you understand those differences?

    BK: I do understand that they're different bodies of law, of course, Senator.

    End 28:33

    https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supre...t/339/763.html Johnson v Eisentrager

    Basic Criminal Law
    4 Basic Principles | The Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC)
    The video of the Lindsey Graham/Brett Kavanaugh questioning has been taken down.

    Did anyone happen to archive that video offline?

    (Note added: edited video to replace the removed one with the one turiya shared.)
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    The video of the Lindsey Graham/Brett Kavanaugh questioning has been taken down.

    Did anyone happen to archive that video offline?
    I think this one would fill the bill...




    Senator Lindsey Graham Questions Brett Kavanaugh
    Military Law vs Criminal Law.

    (Sep 5, 2018)
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    Even Bill has joined in the disparaging comments.
    Sometimes I think that one reason this issue continues to pop up is because of people following Bill's lead. Think about it. Dennis even mentioned Bill directly in his complaints.
    Not intentionally disparaging, as in discourteous — though I may not agree with some strongly-held views here. That's rather different.

    I appreciate the clarification about Iran. I'm not 100% convinced. But I'm comfortable to leave that be.

    My question was a genuine one: Q's reference to 'regime change' (a well-used euphemism with a usually very clear meaning) seems very odd, and I still think it is.

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    Dennis is not on the forum and Bill is not responding.

    So, let's all get back to the discussions at hand.

    When they respond then I'll respond to their questions.

    No use in having a conversation with closed minds.
    For everyone's info: I quite often leave my computer unattended, sometimes for half a day or more, while my open browser page stays on one particular thread. I never actually log off the forum, I'm just not always actually actively here. If I seem not to respond, please don't assume that means anything other than my not being active on the thread at that time.

    I've hardly got a 'closed mind', btw. I'm just not that interested in what frequently seems to be near-endless, unproductive speculation, but that might draw to a close quite soon. (See Kev Baker's interesting new video.) I played a ton of Treasure Hunt games when I was a kid; I don't really want to play them now.

    And besides, this thread is not always a pleasant place to hang out for anyone who disagrees with the Q mindset. And in my opinion, it is a mindset. (Closed, or otherwise: you decide.)

    The often quite defensive-aggressive posture adopted by some who are clearly keen advocates of 'Q' suggests to me that a cult-like phenomenon is taking place. Not only here, but on many other social media venues. Many can see this and have remarked on it. Kev Baker even equates it to a 'religion'.

    A religion is an emotionally-invested belief system that offers security and hope, but in almost all cases lacks any real evidence for its premises.

    If you think that's 'disparaging', then there's no point in any dialog at all. Rather, I'd suggest it's an intelligent observation worthy of intelligent discussion.

    But I'll now bow out again and let that discussion continue. Let's see if more comes to light about who Q may or may not be (and/or have been).

    Meanwhile, I am interested in the seemingly important new initiative announced in Ann Vandersteel's interview of Robert Caron and Joshua Macias, because it seems to promise to have inbuilt transparency, documentation, and accountability. I do think all those things are important. They're not provided by Q, and never have been.
    But let's wait and see on that, as well, before we judge too soon.

    It is because of your lack of interest that you've closed your mind.

    And again, connecting the idea of the people active in this thread (and the Q movement in general) to cultists, religious-like zealots as you did above is a part of the problem Bill. Think about the indirect name-calling (ad hominem) attack you just wrote. You do not talk about the substance of the content, but disparage the character of the people involved.

    And, at this point, you can't talk about the substance of the content, because you're woefully uninformed on the content to speak about it, because you chose to be, out of your lack of interest. Which is okay. But other people are touting you as their expert. And you're not.

    Your attitude toward the people active in this thread sets the tone for how other forum members perceive us, like it or not.

    Did you pay attention to the fact that people let you do their thinking for them (ie Dennis Leahy in his comments)? Therefore, if you make these erroneous connections they blindly accept them. I often wonder when you're going to actually take some responsibility for your role in the "inaccurate assumptions" I mentioned to Paul in an earlier comment. (Which btw I seriously doubt you read, because of your lack of interest.... lol, which is amusing to me.)

    And your opinion is uninformed, because you've closed your mind to looking at the research because you made up your mind, and remain uninterested. LOL

    It's your loss. The information people are sharing amongst each other is of value, whether you see it, or not.

    The fact that you think this is about a Treasure Hunt game, is indicative of your lack of knowledge about the topic. (And again the disparaging comment, tying it to "when I was a kid" is another example of back-hand insults.)

    Just because you are clever and indirect in your insults, doesn't mean that we are too stupid to see them.

    I remember Atticus pointing this out to you at one time, too.

    Evidently, it's still a problem...
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    The video of the Lindsey Graham/Brett Kavanaugh questioning has been taken down.

    Did anyone happen to archive that video offline?
    I think this one would fill the bill...




    Senator Lindsey Graham Questions Brett Kavanaugh
    Military Law vs Criminal Law.

    (Sep 5, 2018)
    Yeah!!!! Thank you turiya!!!
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