QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?

[Deux Corbeaux]

Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
Jake, I hate to be such a dummy, but what are Cern tarot cards? Who made them? Who uses them?

Thanks.

Here are the tarot cards.

https://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXE...N_2_TAROT.html

And here some background info.

https://christianjournal.net/turning...rds-hexen-2-0/

OOPS

See was posted just before me LOL

[Valerie Villars]

Thanks Running Deer and Jayke.

I am living in a mad world when particle collider scientists are playing around with tarot cards. This just gets crazier and crazier.

[waves]

Posted by Baby Steps (here)
.....our establishment has calculated that wikileaks and other leaks have the power to bring them down. They therefore decided to try to hijack and control the awakening.....

I think this is a brilliant point. I suspect that the possibly initially benevolent low-key efforts that had no big expectations will ultimately unravel to be revealed as a hijacked movement after the momentum was noticed.

Of course the enemy is not just sitting back with an attitude of darn it, they're gaining on us.

Of course they are very present somehow in this game right now with the money to do whatever they want.

How much has Q included pointed questions about the pervasive either political or esoterica Mossad/Jewish/Zionist factors in the swamp?

I think people deleriously thrilled thinking they have an organized movement to unite them are seriously ignoring looking for infiltration and ignoring the level of mind control sophistication, media-manipulation power and patience their extremely vicious enemy has.

[yankee451]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Whatever you want to call the group of people that engineered and executed and covered-up 9/11 ("deep state", or whatever), none were ever tried, convicted, and hung (or imprisoned. ) ALL of them slithered back into their desk chairs on the payroll of the USA, INC. They are still in power. It is still EXTREMELY important to them that 9/11 get whitewashed and memory-holed. We may not know who "q" is, but we know who "q's" bosses are.

I don't know who or what QAnon is, but I agree with Dennis (and Bill), that there are certain litmus tests that expose those among us who are being disingenuous. The Pentagon "plane" question is one such litmus test, but I would argue the same about the whole official story.

[Ascension]

Posted by waves (here)

esoterica

Sorry for the drastic snip but I wanted to focus on that one word. Hardly anyone discusses the magic part of the control system, even though the symbols are everywhere.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jayke (here)

My hunch is that those last words, on that last card, provide major insight into where those who control this technology intend to take us:

Abolition of the
producer-consumer
based society

Geographic, social,
cultural, imaginal
autonomous zones now

The complete
dissolution of
abstract power

The values and goals
of those who produce and
control technology are
always embedded
within it.

In other words, the values and goals of those who produce and control this are technological.

Someone has lost touch with their soul.

[norman]

Posted by yankee451 (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Whatever you want to call the group of people that engineered and executed and covered-up 9/11 ("deep state", or whatever), none were ever tried, convicted, and hung (or imprisoned. ) ALL of them slithered back into their desk chairs on the payroll of the USA, INC. They are still in power. It is still EXTREMELY important to them that 9/11 get whitewashed and memory-holed. We may not know who "q" is, but we know who "q's" bosses are.

I don't know who or what QAnon is, but I agree with Dennis (and Bill), that there are certain litmus tests that expose those among us who are being disingenuous. The Pentagon "plane" question is one such litmus test, but I would argue the same about the whole official story.

I think I know where you are coming from but in a hostile war zone we cannot indulge in abstracting the literal. We are up against an intelligent adversary. War rules apply. This thing is very much ongoing and being run, at least by the other side, by the seat of the pants.


I'm, of course, assuming, with this, that Q is ok and on our side.


Actually, it could be true that some sort of plane hit the Pentagon. I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't a great big boeing tho'.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by yankee451 (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Whatever you want to call the group of people that engineered and executed and covered-up 9/11 ("deep state", or whatever), none were ever tried, convicted, and hung (or imprisoned. ) ALL of them slithered back into their desk chairs on the payroll of the USA, INC. They are still in power. It is still EXTREMELY important to them that 9/11 get whitewashed and memory-holed. We may not know who "q" is, but we know who "q's" bosses are.

I don't know who or what QAnon is, but I agree with Dennis (and Bill), that there are certain litmus tests that expose those among us who are being disingenuous. The Pentagon "plane" question is one such litmus test, but I would argue the same about the whole official story.

I think I know where you are coming from but in a hostile war zone we cannot indulge in abstracting the literal. We are up against an intelligent adversary. War rules apply. This thing is very much ongoing and being run, at least by the other side, by the seat of the pants.


I'm, of course, assuming, with this, that Q is ok and on our side.


Actually, it could be true that some sort of plane hit the Pentagon. I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't a great big boeing tho'.

To me the unspoken paradox is this! What does Q always tell us to do? "Enjoy the show" as if that is all we need do, perhaps all we can do even if we wanted to do more. So, what does Q need with an army of sheeple going out in force wherever they are directed if it's already won, and all we need do is enjoy the show? Why the need for the audience at all? On the one hand it's a done deal, the war is already won and patriots are in total control not to worry, yet 'the world is watching' seems to matter for some reason?

In the past the reason for the audience was clear. It was obvious. It was money! Today Q apparently warned 'be careful who you follow' correct? So it seems Q distanced the movement from money! Is it to gain trust? No. They have that. I think it's because Q is indeed a military op of intelligence and they don't need money. Who else could shun it as they have? All the past folks we have had threads on had $ in common! The Q pardox is if the battle is already won why does it matter if the world watches?

[norman]

That's one of the easier answers, as I see it.


The operation can only progress as far as the public, or a significant proportion of it, can comprehend it.


The MSM won't get the word out about what's happening. People would be hopelessly confused and counter the whole thing by not understanding it. A situation could easily arise where the good guys got it all spun around on them and got locked up for what appears to the public and crooked media as some kind of mutiny/coup.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by norman (here)
That's one of the easier answers, as I see it.


The operation can only progress as far as the public, or a significant proportion of it, can comprehend it.


The MSM won't get the word out about what's happening. People would be hopelessly confused and counter the whole thing by not understanding it. A situation could easily arise where the good guys got it all spun around on them and got locked up for what appears to the public and crooked media as some kind of mutiny/coup.

Yeah but if that is the case then the war is hardly won at all! So that must be false and misleading to suggest it's just show. So again see, on the one had Q says it's just a show, but on the other, "this is not a game". It's a study in contrast. I don't see how it can be both. Show says script, plan says laid out operation years in advance. Hardly a game but hardly a show either. I hate to be one that people say oh shut up and I know it irritates some because its another "doubting Thomas" but things don't add up to me.

[norman]

Our intelligent adversary has been running an event driven agenda for a very long time. By that I mean certain things have to click into place before the following stage is entered, rather than running it to a calendar.


If the Q/Trump thing is real, I imagine that it would be run exactly like that event driven agenda. I hope that when certain stages are reached, there are effective locks in place that assure the next stage after that can be completed without a hitch.


I think a couple of big ones are busting the MSM and Silicon Valley, but doing it in a way that doesn't make the bankrupcy of America go too far off track and make it un salvagable.

[Noelle]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
To me the unspoken paradox is this! What does Q always tell us to do? "Enjoy the show" as if that is all we need do, perhaps all we can do even if we wanted to do more. So, what does Q need with an army of sheeple going out in force wherever they are directed if it's already won and all we need do is enjoy the show?

Sorry. I really have tried to stay off this thread. I promise, I won't post here again (unless, of course, you want me here ). I just want to point out that QAnon has said "Enjoy the show" in many drops, though I never took it to mean "Do nothing. Everything will be great." Many of the drops call on people to take action, like this recent message: "Fight, fight, fight. Demand public disclosures. Be loud, be heard." Remember the #ReleaseTheMemo push? Q helped promote that.

[ThePythonicCow]

A (slightly) different perspective on Q just crossed my mind.

I realize that I am using Q rather like a news source, to track some of the current events, especially regarding the US government and Trump, that are of interest to me.

Various people trust various news sources. Some trust the UK Guardian, some trust the New York Times, some trust CNN, some trust Alex Jones, some trust Project Avalon, and recently, some trust Q.

Some of these news sources has "tag lines", such as "All the news that's fit to print" (NYTimes), "The Most Trusted Name in News" (CNN), or "Chonicles of the Human Awakening ... Where Science and Spirituality Meet" (Avalon).

The best known of Q's taglines is "Where We Go One We Go All !" (WWGOWGA!).

I don't judge news sources much by their tag lines. I judge them by whether I come away better (as best as I can judge) informed on the topics of interest to me, and whether I find them easy for my mind to read or listen to. For example, I tend to prefer older men with rich baritone voices and fairly high IQ's (for news ... I have other preferences for other matters.) So I have continued to listen frequently to Clif High, long after my rational brain had decided that his reliability on topics of importance to me was lower than I would normally tolerate. In short: my preferences for news sources are ever shifting and sometimes not very rational.

Q is more of an interactive, gamed, news source, rather than a passive listen, read, and remember what you're told news source. Actually, so is Avalon in that regard, in a very different style.

It does not bother me that I don't have a face, voice, name, or curriculum vitae to associate with Q. Seldom (except when I wrote for my school newspaper, on a couple of small web forums that I used to frequent, and here on Avalon) have I known who was really "pulling the strings" behind the news source(s) I trusted at the time. Rather I have to eventually put the pieces together for myself, and decide which news source(s) are worth listening to today. I currently have upwards of 50 or 100 (depending on how you count) news sources that I scan daily. CNN long ago fell off that list, and Alex Jones fell off in more recent years. Most likely Q will also fall off my list some year, if he keeps this up that long.

I always expect some proportion of the news reported to be lies, confusion, distraction or propaganda, and some proportion of what I really would have wanted reported to be buried, unreported. Sometimes these failings are deliberate, sometimes the usual human failings of imperfect knowledge, comprehension and articulation. Such is life.

Q is not a researcher; some of those following Q's drops are researchers and I benefit from and endeavor in my small way to contribute to the "open source intelligence" (Robert David Steele's term) that is being built up around Q's drops.

Q is not a whistleblower or insider getting out secret knowledge to the press, at least not in the classical sense. We don't know if Q is a he, she, it, or they, and we may never know.

Probably all news sources, from the Bible or Koran onward, become corrupted by deep state powers, if they become sufficiently influential, for a long enough time. Fortunately, it seems that Project Avalon is not at serious risk of becoming too big anytime soon <grin>.

Q sometimes seems to me to be more of a psy-op, which would normally be a huge red flag enough to get a bull to charge right through a thick concrete wall. My current take is that Q is part of a counter-intelligence psy-op, engaged in taking down part of the deep state, mostly the Rockefeller family sponsored crime syndicates such as the Bushes and Clintons and their corrupt minions, and some associated criminal governments imposed on foreign nations such as Saudi Arabia and North Korea (and quite a few others.)

Let us do what we can to see that what remains, and what replaces the fallen, is as good as we're able to make it.

[onawah]

Sources of info that I respect:
1. JOSEPH FARRELL: Q ANON: DEEP STATE WIZARD OF ? DARK JOURNALIST
2.DarkJournalist
Published on Jan 8, 2018
"Deep State Trial Balloon/Marketing Op Aimed at Alternative Media?
In this fascinating episode Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt welcomes back Oxford Scholar Dr. Joseph P. Farrell the author of the popular Giza Death Star Book Series. Farrell delves deeply into the online group posts of Q Anon and its rapid spread through the Alternative Media under the guise of an anonymous insider. Farrell Poses the question: Is the Q Anon material just the latest wave of sophisticated disinformation that 3. Catherine Austin Fitts calls "Hope Porn"?

Disinformation Campaign
Farrell sees a sophisticated disinformation campaign aimed at the independent research community to create an Imitation Wikileaks style vehicle that will act as an All-knowing Oracle Insider for a variety of important Geopolitical situations.

It is apparently designed to propagate the promise of Cabal Arrests and Elites being tried at Gitmo as a kind of Soma to pacify the growing online audience that are raising questions about the actions of the Deep State on a global scale!
Don't miss this exciting, informative and alarming Dark Journalist episode!"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3e_e5WI_mjg

The absence of logic The Matrix Revealed: Why logic disappeared
(It's not just happening in schools...psyops are designed to confuse, obfuscate and turn off logical thinking. "That’s how mind-programming is done—by pouring assumptions into the student.
Once he begins to look at them, study them, consider them, assess them, he is SEPARATE FROM THEM.")
Aug3
4.by Jon Rappoport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...c-disappeared/
"Over the past year, I’ve been in communication with several teachers who are telling me about the descent into more social programming in school classrooms.

From so-called environmental agendas, to discussions about gender orientation and choice of gender identity, to sex education, to teaching about “liberalism,” the indoctrination is getting thicker and deeper.

This whole mind-engineering approach would suffer a devastating blow if logic were introduced into the curriculum, particularly at an early age.

One prime factor becomes clear the moment a student explores logic as a formal subject. That factor is THE PREMISE.

Deductive arguments begin from premises, also known as assumptions or givens.

Although logic focuses on the process of reasoning launched from the premises, there is no way to avoid looking at these basic assumptions, once the student learns how to find them.

“Is this premise true?” “Does it make sense?”

And then all bets are off, because social programming is short on reasoning and long on givens.

That’s how mind-programming is done—by pouring assumptions into the student.

Once he begins to look at them, study them, consider them, assess them, he is SEPARATE FROM THEM.

He can then gauge their truth or falsity.

He can decide whether they’re grounded in fact, or are merely arbitrary notions designed to forward an ideology.

At that point, the roof caves in on the programmers.

This is one reason I designed a basic introductory logic course for high-school students and included it in my collection, The Matrix Revealed.

Students should have the opportunity to experience analyzing passages of text. They should learn what that process does for them, how it wakes them up and eventually makes them independent.

Educators are aware that treading on the path of logic endangers what they are covertly putting into students’ heads.

That’s why logic has disappeared.

That’s why it needs to come back.

Shepherded by parents.

Every home is a civilization."

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
To me the unspoken paradox is this! What does Q always tell us to do? "Enjoy the show" as if that is all we need do, perhaps all we can do even if we wanted to do more. So, what does Q need with an army of sheeple going out in force wherever they are directed if it's already won, and all we need do is enjoy the show? Why the need for the audience at all? On the one hand it's a done deal, the war is already won and patriots are in total control not to worry, yet 'the world is watching' seems to matter for some reason?

In the past the reason for the audience was clear. It was obvious. It was money! Today Q apparently warned 'be careful who you follow' correct? So it seems Q distanced the movement from money! Is it to gain trust? No. They have that. I think it's because Q is indeed a military op of intelligence and they don't need money. Who else could shun it as they have? All the past folks we have had threads on had $ in common! The Q pardox is if the battle is already won why does it matter if the world watches?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
To me the unspoken paradox is this! What does Q always tell us to do? "Enjoy the show" as if that is all we need do, perhaps all we can do even if we wanted to do more. So, what does Q need with an army of sheeple ...

To me, that phrase of Q, "Enjoy the show", has a different meaning.

Bear with me a minute, if you may, through a couple twists of logic.

Some of what goes on "up there", in Washington, in the halls of power, is hidden from us. That cannot change anytime soon. There's a major war going on "up there", between some major and well entrenched powers. Secrecy and deception are essential tactics in such wars, as they are presently conducted.

That can be pretty scary. Bad Sh*t going down and we won't find out about it until it's too late, if then.

Fear paralyzes.

Q is addressing that potential paralyzing fear.

For those things you can see or figure out, do your own research and take your own initiatives.

For those things you can't see, except for the ominous sounds coming out from behind the curtain, be not paralyzed by fear, but rather enjoy the show as the curtain is pulled back, as quickly as we can, and some of the swamp is revealed and drained.

[yankee451]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by yankee451 (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Whatever you want to call the group of people that engineered and executed and covered-up 9/11 ("deep state", or whatever), none were ever tried, convicted, and hung (or imprisoned. ) ALL of them slithered back into their desk chairs on the payroll of the USA, INC. They are still in power. It is still EXTREMELY important to them that 9/11 get whitewashed and memory-holed. We may not know who "q" is, but we know who "q's" bosses are.

I don't know who or what QAnon is, but I agree with Dennis (and Bill), that there are certain litmus tests that expose those among us who are being disingenuous. The Pentagon "plane" question is one such litmus test, but I would argue the same about the whole official story.

I think I know where you are coming from but in a hostile war zone we cannot indulge in abstracting the literal. We are up against an intelligent adversary. War rules apply. This thing is very much ongoing and being run, at least by the other side, by the seat of the pants.


I'm, of course, assuming, with this, that Q is ok and on our side.


Actually, it could be true that some sort of plane hit the Pentagon. I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't a great big boeing tho'.

The photographic evidence is proof enough no planes crashed at any of the 9/11 sites.

[yankee451]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
To me the unspoken paradox is this! What does Q always tell us to do? "Enjoy the show" as if that is all we need do, perhaps all we can do even if we wanted to do more. So, what does Q need with an army of sheeple ...

To me, that phrase of Q, "Enjoy the show", has a different meaning.

Bear with me a minute, if you may, through a couple twists of logic.

Some of what goes on "up there", in Washington, in the halls of power, is hidden from us. That cannot change anytime soon. There's a major war going on "up there", between some major and well entrenched powers. Secrecy and deception are essential tactics in such wars, as they are presently conducted.

That can be pretty scary. Bad Sh*t going down and we won't find out about it until it's too late, if then.

Fear paralyzes.

Q is addressing that potential paralyzing fear.

For those things you can see or figure out, do your own research and take your own initiatives.

For those things you can't see, except for the ominous sounds coming out from behind the curtain, be not paralyzed by fear, but rather enjoy the show as the curtain is pulled back, as quickly as we can, and some of the swamp is revealed and drained.

Fear is the key. If "they" can make us fear something, anything, then the mission has been accomplished. Fear of rejection, or of pain, or of loneliness, or of instant death, or of bad breath, or whatever - it doesn't matter what you're afraid of, if you live in fear, they win.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Back to topic....

Here's the final session from Edward Riordan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kVr2GdTN8

Basically Q is an AI which is trying to undermine the human elite leadership (which is of course highly corrupt) in order to create a new technocratic religion which can solve all problems and lead us to a "promised land" which is actually an illusion because it replaces human individuality.

Quite a profound viewpoint. Hard to be confirmed but worth bearing in mind.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
Back to topic....

Here's the final session from Edward Riordan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3kVr2GdTN8

Basically Q is an AI which is trying to undermine the human elite leadership (which is of course highly corrupt) in order to create a new technocratic religion which can solve all problems and lead us to a "promised land" which is actually an illusion because it replaces human individuality.

Quite a profound viewpoint. Hard to be confirmed but worth bearing in mind.

Some other points I made for those that aren't familiar with the series. I'll include Paul's comments and links again.

Posted by Paul (here)
Here's links to all 7 of the videos in this series. These videos were all posted between Sept 15 and 20 of this year, 2018 (just in the last week). They are videos of Remote Viewing (RV) sessions that he conducted between July 15-25 2018.

1. Remote Viewing: I'm Posting The Q anon Sessions. The Hands Behind the Hand?
2. Remote Viewing: The Q anon Sessions 3 and 4, Clandestine Meetings?
3. Remote Viewing: The Qanon Sessions #5 Pt. 1, The Phantom
4. Remote Viewing: Q Anon Session 5 Pt 2. The Flash
5. Remote Viewing: The Q anon Session 6. The Event Horizon
6. Remote Viewing: The Q Anon Session 7 Pt. 1 Machine Learning
7. Remote Viewing: The Q anon Sessions, 7 Pt 2. The Fringe

I don't usually have much interest in RV results, but I am finding Riordan's opening comments interesting. He's finding Q to be something way bigger than just some political back and forth involving President Trump ... way bigger, something involving high tech, secret facilities and experiments, global, hidden Elites in what is perhaps a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF), nano-biology, massive world changing event or broadcast, world wide controlling people's emotions, directed energy, teleportation, world wide control grid (satellite, 5G, ?), incredible new technology, some living forever, and other more exotic stuff.

UPDATES:

1. For those with time constraints, Edward Riordan’s format is he summarizes the session in the first 9-10 minutes and then shows his process in real time.
2. I’ve watched about half of them and couldn’t help wonder if Omni could related to some of this material. (update: watched all of the summaries)
3. In session 7, he explains that the session got strange. And something that never happened before was his camera suddenly stopped working (unbeknownst to him) in a key section. It wasn't the battery. The camera was plugged in.
4. From my other post - What intrigued me was this comment from his first video: I'm just gonna put them all up. One of them I was getting into some super high tech stuff and when I was getting into some into the depth of it, when I went back and loaded the the film, the part that was really in-depth, that part of the video was gone. Don't know why. Very strange. I have the paper session we’ll look at the PDF.

The last of the series:

I have the final session of the Q project here. This was July 29th, @ 9:15 am. We had decided the movements would be to look at the satellite and machine learning. Explore those things. This was the final session. It gets pretty crazy. It’s probably the craziest one. After this I was done. I couldn’t take anymore.

Remote Viewing Qanon: Final Session! Artificial Intelligence

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y3kVr2GdTN8

Edward Riordan YouTube
Published on Sep 22, 2018

[Ratszinger]

This is interesting on the last video link. I watched with some interest after he started about the 'SKYNET' as I did my own little 'remote viewing' kinda as a joke a while back well, some time back and then again yesterday and well. I got kinda sorta the same thing. And I'm finding myself shocked at the resemblance of this portrait I did focusing on Q and how much it ended up looking like the person that caught everyone's eye a while back suspected of being JFK Jr. Anyway, this was the one of the sky net and the portrait of a man My sky net was micro bots.