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    Umm! Just thinking out loud. How exactly are they all supposed to be unable to walk in public again if they are in custody? The statement by Q indicates they would be still public figures and unable to show their faces in public and we haven't even seen that yet so I have trouble believing anyone is in custody unless that statement by Q is misdirect. Seems to me that they would by necessity have to be out in public to be able to do that not in a cell in custody. Just saying.
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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Umm! Just thinking out loud. How exactly are they all supposed to be unable to walk in public again if they are in custody?
    Q didn't say, in that drop, whether or not they could walk the streets at all, but only that they could not do so safely, if allowed to try.
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    Dave Hodges, of the Common Sense Show, has a fine editorial ripping Robert Mueller a new orifice. I don't usually connect all that well with the writings of Hodges ... not sure why. But in this case, Hodges has enough history of involvement in the topic, and is quite well informed, of the history, of the present details, and of the larger dynamics.

    Except perhaps for the rather click-baitish title (a frequent weakness of Hodges), I found this article of Hodges to be an excellent read:
    The Man Who Could Start World War III
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    I have been lucky enough to be in a position to have round-table type discussions with both civilian intelligence and military intelligence operatives, both past and present. Without self-indulgent bragging, I can state that I have developed a reputation for protecting sources and accurately reporting what I am led to discover. Because of that, I attract more sources which adds to the confidence I have in bringing forth critical information. This article is a combination of intelligence community information and the results of my own research.

    For the record, I must state that I have never been knowingly been given information that was classified. However, since an estimated 80% of all intelligence information is open source, I have been directed on where to look for critical information. And when “several” direct me to look at different facts that unmistakably draw the same conclusion,
    US Intelligence Agencies Do Not Serve the Best Interests of the Country
    There are many good men and women who faithfully serve their country inside the nation’s intelligence community. They are loyal, patriotic and would give their lives in defense of their nation. However, if they serve long enough, they discover the “Deep State” agenda which is designed to use these agencies (eg CIA) in order to further the goals of the globalists which will culminate in a New World Order consisting of a one-world-government and a one-world economic-system. It is from the well-spring of these dedicated people that journalists such as myself are given information in order to alert the people in an attempt to stop or at least slow down the encroachment of globalist inspired tyranny directed at the people of America.

    US intelligence agencies lie. They lie about their lies. Their reports, when mandated by Congressional oversight, are filled with errors and of course, lies upon lies. Historically, Robert Mueller is one of these liars.

    Today, Mueller’s entire mission is to keep Putin and Trump apart. Mueller works for globalist interests that don’t want a nationalist-orientated Russia combining forces with a globalist-orientated American President with the mutual goal of opposing globalist interests. Every intelligence agency has a vested interest, including the FBI, to keep Russia and America apart. Officials and agency directors, both past and present, could go to jail because they are all guilty of treason and sedition. It has been this way for a long time and the 2016 election has nothing to do with the genesis of this globalist goal to keep Putin and Trump apart. A Russian-American alliance is the major nightmare of every globalist and has been for a long time. How far back does this go? President Kennedy’s “Secret Societies speech” said it all.

    The JFK speech is now known as his famous “Secret Society” speech. JFK was the first and the only President to ever identify the globalists as the enemy of America and humanity as a whole. For a man in his position, JFK was stunningly detailed in calling out the globalists of his day. JFK called out the New World Order in 1961.

    1. Media censorship: “I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications”.

    2. The growing dominance of the globalists: “The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. …Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired”.

    3. Identifying the globalists: “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations”. This paragraph represents who Robert Mueller serves.

    Some people believed that JFK was talking about the Soviets. However, the Soviets did not control our media which was the focus of his speech to a group of newspaper editors. The Soviets were known to the public, they were not a “secret society”. There is no question, he was talking about the globalists of his day. JFK was talking about media censorship in 1961. This is exactly what Trump is dealing with today through the social media where most people now get their news.

    In 1961, these were fighting words because the public had never heard of such things. In the two weeks following the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the globalists knew they had an enemy in the White House and if he could not be unelected, he would have to be dealt with. Is this why Trump seems to be quake in his boots when it comes to imposing federal law on organizations like Google and Facebook when they violate open forum laws by exercising censorship when it is illegal to do so under anti-trust legislation and open forum laws.

    Media control is paramount to giving anesthesia to an American population who might wake up, in totality, and oppose globalism in full public view. The globalists largely attempt to stay in the shadows by controlling the media. Trump refuses to go where JFK went. Mueller serves these interests and if he were professionally active in 1963, he would have been a collaborator, either an active participant or an accomplice after the fact, in the murder of JFK.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same!
    Mueller Has Always Been An Agent of the Deep State and Their Globalists Puppet Masters
    Mueller was a major player and contributor to the Federal Reserve’s goal of keeping the world locked into the exclusive use of the Petrodollar in which all of the countries of the world, desiring to buy oil, must first purchase a Federal Reserve Note in order to complete the oil transaction in dollars. The use of the Petrodollar scheme was the brainchild of 1940’s globalists, led by Rockefeller and Rothschild in which a plan was devised to force every developed and developing country to join central banking and drag their citizens into consequential debt enslavement of the nations of the world. This allows government to control the inner workings of every major government on the planet. At least it did until recently when the inevitable spirit of freedom and self-determination reared its head through a series of populist movements around the planet. And this movement, was led by Donald Trump’s examples.

    Enter Robert Mueller, he is a key centerpiece in the globalists war on populism and self-governance. Most are not aware of his role in the globalist regime and this article is going to expose his role.

    Saddam Hussein and Robert Mueller once crossed paths. In one of the most egregious examples of imperialism American history, Robert Mueller, in congressional testimony, stated that he unequivocally that he personally endorsed claims about Iraqi WMDs and warned that Saddam Hussein would supply chemical and biological material to terrorists. Muller’s testimony was key in convincing Congress to go along with lies being told by the Bush administration about Iraq and the infamous Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction”. Decades later, the weapons of mass destruction have never been found.

    Mueller’s testimony was key to launching a war that would kill a multitude of people and subjugate the people of Iraq. Ultimately, because of the complicity of McCain and Clinton, ISIS would be born out of this conflict and the 24/7/365 excuse of terrorism being used as the justification to invade countries on behalf of greedy bankers and corporations would be allowed to continue unabated.

    At the end of the day, what was Mueller’s mission? His mission was to serve the goal of the globalists and to gain control over the Middle East oil supplies. This would be the key to the globalists controlling the economies of every modern nation. His mission was successful. In the period following Iraq’s capitulation, BP and Exxon controlled 80% of all Iraqi oil. Nobody authorized this through an act of Congress. George W. Bush acted unilaterally to make this happen and Mueller was a catalyst in furthering US imperialism of the worst degree.

    Control of Middle Eastern oil also served another purpose. It prevented Russia at that time, to become energy independent. Energy independence is the key to political and economic independence from globalist interests. Putin embarked on a mission to achieve independence. To a large extent, Russia is now energy independent and they control the lion’s share of natural gas and home heating oil for much of Europe. This is unacceptable to the globalists. Russia must be stopped and the wars in the Middle East, for a time, accomplished this goal.
    Uranium One
    Mueller has found many roles in which he becomes the useful idiot of the Deep State and their globalist puppet masters. In July of 2017, I published irrefutable, double-sourced proof of Mueller’s complicity of delivering high enriched uranium to the Russians, on behalf of the Clinton Foundation, in 2009. At that time, he was the FBI director (treason and malfeasance of office) and he was working at the behest of the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton (treason and malfeasance of office). What do you think some of the 33,000 illegal emails contain in terms of content in this area. Why did the Awan brothers get hired to “bleach” many of the emails? Remember their employer, Debbie Wasserman Schultz was the head of the DNC at that time. Remember, Seth Rich was murdered for leaking relevant material to Wikileaks. Oh my, it is raining coincidences isn’t it? Sean Hannity only wishes he had the freedom I do to present the following, that I am, once again.

    In July of 2017, after debating with myself for 2 months, I released absolute proof which demonstrated that Robert Mueller, then FBI Director, compromised this nation by delivering high enriched uranium to the Russians in an ultimate act of treason that could carry capital punishment consequences. Please, take the blinders off and click the link: Treason! Hillary AND Robert Mueller Both Sold Uranium to Putin. The truth shall set you free.

    By the way, Hillary used this money, obtained from these sales of highly enriched uranium to help fund her Presidential campaign. And Trump still hasn’t prosecuted her?

    Uranium One accomplished a number of goals for the globalists. This transfer of uranium, would, in part, allow the Russians to play catch up with superior American nuclear power. This is already leading to an arm’s race in which the globalists defense industries are making money hand over fist. Have you seen the military budget for 2019?

    Uranium One also served to keep Russia and America apart through the creation of an arm’s race. Remember, Putin has threatened to nuke the globalists. He is being overrun with Muslim immigrants from former Soviet states. Putin and Trump have much in common. Putin is being squeezed through a lack of granted liquidity from the Bank of International Settlements and Russia was kicked out of the G7. Putin has discovered that populism is popular with the Russian people. Donald Trump has discovered the same thing and now we move to the globalist end game, the Russian-Collusion-Delusion.
    The Russian-Collusion-Delusion
    Obama was the set up man and set the stage for gun confiscation and the evisceration of the Constitution. Hillary was to be the closer. She would also start World War III with the Russians which would culminate in the establishment of a unified planet under the control of the globalists. But along came Donald Trump, a nationalist. Putin has become a nationalist. They are opposed both materially and philosophically to the New World Order and all that it represents. The two leaders must be kept apart. How was this done? Simply say that the Russians stole the 2016 election. Therefore, if Trump tries to get to close to the Russians, it will validate these bogus claims in the eyes of the public.

    There would be nobody any better to bring in special counsel in order to perpetrate this fraud than Robert Mueller. He has long been a Deep State ally. However, he now has a personal stake in keeping Russia and America apart. His role in the delivery of uranium to the Russians could be exposed if Putin and Trump forge a alliance. Mueller’s life, both literally and figuratively, depends on keeping Russia and America being kept apart. This is why we have been subjected to two years of a nothing burger. Two years of absolutely nothing and now they are trying to get Cohen to lie and they are trying to get anyone convicted of a unrelated crime by Mueller to lie about Trump. Mueller is desperate. He needs to get World War III started because his investigation is going nowhere. The Democrats are on the verge of falling into the same trap as they have announced 80 investigations into Trump. The Republican Primary demonstrated that when the R’s and the media ganged up on Trump, the people sided with Trump because nobody likes a rigged game. The Democrats are walking into the same trap.
    Trump Has Options-The Counter-Coup
    Mueller is dangerous. By keeping Russia and America apart and heightening tensions, his actions could directly lead to WW III.

    If I were Donald Trump, I would do the following:
    1. Immediately fire Mueller and give a modern version of JFK’s Secret Societies speech on National TV. And if the networks would not air the statement, then declare martial law (there is after all a coup going on) and nationalize the mainstream media including social media. As long as the MSM is allowed to censor, people’s minds will continue to be enslaved.
    2. Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Uranium One and Robert Mueller’s role. If Trump did this, it would be interesting to see how quickly the Russian-Collusion-Delusion would disappear. Hillary would sell off all assets and move to Dubai (no extradition). Podesta would seek asylum on Epstein’s Island where he would open a Deep State Pizza franchise and name it after some comet and the Deep State would take the last train for the coast before finding a country to go into hiding.
    The only way to stop the globalists and what Mueller is attempting to do, is to neutralize Mueller. The only way America survives is through a Russian-American alliance designed to stop the spread of globalism.

    It is time that Trump puts Mueller out of his misery and then subsequently finishes the work that John F. Kennedy started 58 years ago.
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    This came through my inbox today.

    I couldn't find much on the net about this guy - Law Johnston but he certainly speaks with conviction and talks of sources
    that have convinced him of the very real possibility of the temporary implementation of martial law for the safety and security
    of the people.

    CRITICAL INFORMATION!! SPREAD FAR AND WIDE IMMEDIATELY!


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    FIRST DOJ INDICTMENTS UNSEALED: Clinton Foundation-Connected Bank “Mossack Fonseca” Tied To Money Laundering
    Posted On : 5-December-2018 Published By : Charles Hunter Mason

    WASHINGTON, DC – As reported by Courthouse News Service, Federal prosecutors announced charges this Tuesday against four men connected to the law firm “Mossack Fonseca”, which has extensive ties with the Clinton Foundation.

    The charges, which include Conspiracy to Defraud the United States, Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud, Conspiracy to Commit Tax Evasion, Wire Fraud, and Money Laundering Conspiracy, come merely three years after the leak of the Panama Papers by the ICIJ, and pushed heavily by Wikileaks. The papers were received by the German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung in 2015 from an anonymous source.

    The charges line up with several of the sealed indictments requesting wiretaps, PRTT orders, and search warrants which were leaked by the DOJ recently and reported on by the Daily Crusader (see our full report on the DOJ’s leaked search warrant indictments: PART ONE HERE and PART TWO HERE)

    This shows that Clinton Foundation may well be very close to being rolled up; these charges, while very serious, still do not explain some of the leaked PRTT/wiretap orders, such as the National Security orders, the drug trafficking orders, or the orders related to child trafficking or providing aid to foreign terrorist organizations.

    The charges filed Tuesday lay out a scheme by which participants would hide their assets in foreign tax havens away from the prying eyes of US and other sovereign nations taxation authorities, presumably to avoid paying taxes and possibly to have assets available should they ever need to flee their respective home countries for their alleged treason.

    Authorities have successfully arrested three of the four men; Dirk Brauer, a 54-year-old German investment advisor for Mossfon Asset Management; Richard Gaffey, a 74-year-old U.S. accountant; and Harald Joachim von der Goltz, an 81-year-old German-born client. Mossack Fonseca attorney Ramses Owens, a 50-year-old from Panama, remains at large.

    The charges were all levied by U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in the Southern District of New York, which FBIAnon heavily suggested in 2016 would be where the Clinton Foundation would be taken down.

    In a statement, Berman said: “For decades, the defendants, employees and a client of global law firm Mossack Fonseca, allegedly shuffled millions of dollars through off-shore accounts and created shell companies to hide fortunes. In fact, as alleged, they had a playbook to repatriate un-taxed money into the U.S. banking system. Now, their international tax scheme is over, and these defendants face years in prison for their crimes.”

    One of the clients, listed as “Client 3” began cooperating with the DOJ, using voluntary wiretaps and by meeeting with undercover agents in America and overseas, in January 2017, heavily lending credence to Daily Crusader’s theory (see our full report on the DOJ’s leaked search warrant indictments: PART ONE HERE and PART TWO HERE) that some of the Cabal crimes being handled by DOJ were necessarily ordered investigated by the President, due to the nature of their “50 USC” statute violations.

    Eleven charges were outlined in the indictment against the four men.

    Clinton Foundation-connected associates which are related to Mossack Fonseca include Gabrielle Fialkoff, finance director for Hillary Clinton’s first campaign for the U.S. Senate; Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining magnate who has traveled the globe with Bill Clinton; a member of the Chagoury family, which pledged $1 billion in projects to the Clinton Global Initiative; and Chinese billionaire Ng Lap Seng, who was at the center of a Democratic fund-raising scandal when Bill Clinton was president. Also using the Panamanian law firm was the company founded by the late billionaire investor Marc Rich, an international fugitive when Bill Clinton pardoned him in the final hours of his presidency.

    Some of the most consistently reliable news sources, such as RT, have been reporting about the connection between the Clinton Foundation and Mossack Fonseca since at least early 2016.





    *****UPDATE:*****
    It appears that John Podesta was on the executive board of a client of Mossack Fonseca!

    Source: http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/j...d-tax-evasion/

    Source: https://www.wnd.com/2016/10/hillary-...ey-laundering/

    FROM WND:

    Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign manager, John Podesta, was on the executive board of a client of the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca, which is at the heart of the the Panama Papers investigation into massive global offshore money-laundering. The company for which Podesta served as a board member, Joule, also received $35 million from a Putin-connected Russian government fund at the same time then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spearheaded the transfer of U.S. advanced technology, some with military uses, as part of her “reset” strategy with Russia

    *****UPDATE:*****
    There seem to be some misunderstandings between the term “bank” and “law firm”; remember that these crimes occurred in Panama where the distinctions are not as easily drawn. The law firm provided corporate services and in essence acted as a bank by allowing the funneling of money in and out of shell companies they set up and controlled, using Panamanian law instead of US law. See the wiki entry for further elucidation on the companies operations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossack_Fonseca

    *****UPDATE:*****
    An anon explained to us very simply why the Cabal used relatively lawless Panama instead of the Cayman Islands (which would have afforded them the Crown’s protection). It is summed up succinctly in the below image:

    source:

    https://www.dailycrusader.com/2018/1...ey-laundering/

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    Quote Posted by Zanshin (here)
    This came through my inbox today.

    I couldn't find much on the net about this guy - Law Johnston but he certainly speaks with conviction and talks of sources
    that have convinced him of the very real possibility of the temporary implementation of martial law for the safety and security
    of the people.

    CRITICAL INFORMATION!! SPREAD FAR AND WIDE IMMEDIATELY!
    The date on this video is December 24, 2018, the day before Christmas. It warns of martial law possibly happening "in the next few days", over the holidays. The conjectured "message directly from Military Generals" on the screen (around the 3:09 mark) says that "The military will be invoking EMERGENCY MARTIAL LAW after Christmas."

    It is now January 3, 2019. Obviously, that did not happen.

    I'm not sure who is behind such warnings, which have occurring, if my memory serves me, for many years now.

    However I no longer find such bold warnings particularly informative or predictive.

    Such warnings do seem to serve at least one purpose, and that's to discredit us "conspiracy theorists" with our "normie" friends, neighbors and relatives, when, once again, the predicted big event doesn't happen.

    I would suppose that the real changes are ongoing, and happening beneath the surface, or behind the curtain ... in places, by means, at times, between people and groups, that are difficult for us to discern, through the fog.
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    WHISTLE BLOWERS TARGET THE DEEP STATE’S CLINTON FOUNDATION
    January 2, 2019

    "Operation Freedom
    Published on Jan 2, 2019
    The spotlight of this video focuses on President Trump & the Whistle Blower's who have targeted the Deep State's tentacle The Clinton Foundation. Additional content available at www.davejanda.com"

    From Forbidden Knowledge at https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/whi...on-foundation/ :
    " Retired orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Dave Janda of Operation Freedom speaks to the frustration that many feel about the impunity of so many criminals in our government, especially with all of the Hope Porn and “hopium” promoted in the Alternative Media through such phenomena as the Q Movement. So, Dr. Janda put together this absolutely bombshell report.

    He points to John Huber, the US Attorney from Utah appointed by sacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions to investigate 2016 election controversies had been held out by many as the stealth prosecutor who would bring about the demise of the Clinton Foundation and all of the psychopaths associated with it. Such hopes were deflated when he was a no-show last month to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee on the Clinton Foundation.

    Dr. Janda reminds us that Huber was appointed specifically to do two things: The first was to look at how the Clinton email investigation was handled by the FBI and the Department of Justice and the second was to look at how the Justice Department and the FBI were investigating the “Russian collusion” issue with the Trump campaign. Neither of these directives targeted the Uranium One deal or the Clinton Foundation.

    Dr. Janda says he believes that the notion that Huber was supposed to testify was disinformation to distract from the actual prize, which was the two whistle blowers, John Moynihan and Lawrence Doyle who did testify with details, which Dr. Janda assures us was completely devastating to the Deep State and to the Clintons.

    Dr. Janda says, “My sources, from the very beginning have told me the Clinton Foundation is nothing but a front for at least one of our intelligence agencies and it was a front for money laundering, potentially issues with drugs and weapons and what these two whistle blowers did is they connected all the dots and I believe all this focus on Huber was to take the limelight off of them, to enable them to get out in front of the public in a congressional hearing and put the meat on the bones.

    “They put more meat on the bones than Huber ever could have because, remember Huber is not looking at the Clinton Foundation. It came out in the hearing – there were a number of bombs dropped but…the nuclear bomb dropped by both Moynihan and Doyle was the following: that there is an active criminal, ongoing, open investigation of the Clinton Foundation being run through the Little Rock field office of the FBI…

    “If there’s an open ongoing criminal investigation, it’s best that a prosecutor involved in looking at some other issues not be involved because, whatever that prosecutor’s looking at, well if it would come to a trial, it could get thrown out on a technicality. That information that was supposed to be presented in a courtroom was being presented to the public and [Chairman Mark] Meadows said, ‘Now I get why Huber’s not here.’

    “I believe the plan was always behind the curtain, not to have Huber show up but they put him out there is the shiny object: ‘Look, look, look, look who’s gonna be here,’ to give Doyle and Moynihan free passage to get that testimony into that Congressional hearing room…

    “I believe Moynihan has experience with the Drug Enforcement Agency, Doyle has experience on Wall Street, doing criminal investigations…They’re essentially bounty hunters, OK. They go in and they look at government money that has been ripped off and they get a cut of that…

    “These are the points I took away that were critical: Number one: the Clinton Foundation was acting as an unregistered – underline that – foreign agent. The Foundation had acted as a foreign agent, which it was not entitled to do, under their 501(c)3 status, as given to them by the IRS.

    “What Doyle and Moynihan stated is the Clinton Foundation was only granted non-profit status for its work in developing the Clinton Library, that was it. All this Clinton Global Initiative and all the stuff they were doing in Haiti, around the world…was not sanctioned by their non-profit status. In other words, it was illegal for them to do this and the fact that they were dealing with foreign governments and were unregistered foreign agents makes them subject to Treason!

    “This is what was presented, that the fake media is not talking about! In addition, they spoke about misrepresentation and misallocation of funds; that the Foundation did not comply with IRS regulations, that the [Foundation] was involved with organizations and issues not approved by the IRS initial documents and regulations and why they were initially granted the nonprofit status…

    “They stated that a number of the transactions occurring with the Clinton Foundation with foreign governments while Hillary was Secretary of State were based on pay-to-play agreements. In other words, ‘Pay us at the Foundation a lot of money and what we’re gonna do is we’re going to make sure that your country gets more aid, your country gets more weapons!’ This is illegal! That’s what Doyle and Moynihan presented.

    “They also presented issues on misuse of funds at the Foundation. Quote: The Foundation did not use funds for charitable causes. End quote. They’re not a charitable organization! In fact, the Clinton Foundation is a closely-held family partnership and is used to advance the agenda of family members, Bill, Hillary and Chelsea.

    “In addition, they pointed at the donors and they said the donors should have done their due diligence, because it was obvious, that if they read – and they were entitled to read the charter of the Clinton Foundation – [that] they were based on being a charity for the library; the fact that they were donating money to causes, such as AIDS in Haiti and across the board, that they were not allocated for that – and supposedly, they mentioned or somebody mentioned that Bill Gates was upset about this, because he had donated a bunch of money and said, ‘Wait a minute! You’re doing stuff that you’re not supposed to be doing!’

    “Supposedly, there was a big fight between Gates and and Clinton but what Doyle and Moynihan pointed out is that all the donors that have taken tax deductions, both should be clawed back and in fact, penalties should be applied to the donors for not doing their due diligence. In particular, they also pointed to their involvement with the Clinton Foundation with European countries; that European countries were in discussions with the Foundation’s senior officials, Bill, Hillary Chelsea and developed contracts with those countries that was far beyond anything approved by IRS guidelines.

    “They stated that the administration costs of the Clinton Foundation were at minimum 60%, when most charities have administration costs of 15% or less. They stated that, again these pay-to-play donations were prevalent and pervasive in the Clinton Foundation…Let’s just look at Mozambique:

    “Mozambique had a relationship with the Clinton Foundation, an agreement and essentially, the Clinton Foundation was a foreign agent for Mozambique – not registered and in fact, the agreement between the Clinton Foundation and Mozambique was the Foundation was actually brokering money transactions and brokering pharmaceuticals for companies and the government of Mozambique.

    “Now, remember that – and some of my friends in Canada pointed this out to me, that there was this recent murder-suicide that occurred; of this this drug company CEO and he supposedly was supplying drugs to the Clinton Foundation for their work in Haiti. Well, it turns out the investigation shows it wasn’t a murder-suicide of this couple, that in fact, it appears that the wife was tortured and then killed in front of the husband who was then murdered!

    “Now, reportedly the husband, who is the CEO was getting very critical about what was happening with the Clinton Foundation; what he saw happening with his relationship with them, with the drugs and the like. Coincidence? That those two are dead? This guy doesn’t think so.

    “In the hearing, Doyle and Moynihan were asked, ‘Based on the facts, do you believe that there was probable cause of criminal wrongdoing with the Clinton Foundation?’ Both said yes. Significant. ‘Do you believe there was criminal activity with the Clinton Foundation, itself?’ Both said yes. In fact…Doyle states and Moynihan stated…quote: I know where all the bodies are buried. End quotes.

    “This came from Zero Hedge. The CFO of the Clinton Foundation, thinking he was meeting an old professional acquaintance, admitted to investigators, our whistle blowers that the charity had ‘Widespread problems with governance, accounting and conflicts-of-interest and that Bill Clinton has been commingling business and personal expenses for a long time.’ That was actually reported through John Solomon, as well, through The Hill.

    “And what the whistle blower said at the hearing was, ‘Yeah what…that CFO told us was correct. We found that Bill Clinton mixed personal business with the Clinton Foundation, used donated funds for personal use.’ Direct quote.

    “Quote: funds were used as a piggy bank for senior leaders of the foundation; Bill, Hillary and Chelsea, for personal expenses, such as…their vacations.

    “And then, they were pushed. Both sides, both the Republicans the Democrats – really, one side – they’re all Republicrats, owned by the Globalist syndicate. ‘Well, you know if this is so important, why didn’t you turn this over to the Department of Justice?’ ‘Well, we did, in fact.’

    “Here’s what they said: ‘We turned over the documents as early as 2017 to the IRS. In addition, we turned over documents to the FBI and actually had feedback from the FBI and were told there was an active –’ Here’s the bomb – neutron! Nuclear: ‘– active, ongoing open criminal investigation of the Foundation through the FBI Field Office.’

    “And then they said they also had sent letters…about the Foundation – although they didn’t know if it was in his purview – to Huber in April of 2018, May, October and November. They also sent information in June of 2018 to the Department of Justice Inspector General. They said that the open criminal investigation that they were aware of, because of feedback they had from the FBI, was through the FBI sources that they had.

    “And then [the Committee] said, ‘Well, do you have any proof that this investigation is occurring?’ and they said, ‘Well, yeah, in fact, we have pictures of this jet sent by the Justice Department that came in August of 2018 and people left the plane, went to the Clinton Foundation, took out boxes and here, the boxes were put on the plane and went back to Washington.

    “What they were saying is, ‘Look, how did they know that plane was gonna arrive at 8:00AM on August 18th of 2018?’ They were told by the FBI to be there, to confirm that things were moving ahead. So, they went there and they took pictures of it.

    “Now, it’s my understanding, while Doyle and Moynihan were testifying on December 13, 2018, the Justice Department, again, that week sent another plane down to Little Rock, more records out of the Clinton Foundation and actually also sent a plane, as I understand it, to the airport closest to the where the Clintons have a hangout in Chappaqua, New York. Again, more documents.

    “Now, remember, there was that fire in Chappaqua? Coincidence?

    “When Doyle and Moynihan concluded, they concluded that between $400 million and $2.5 billion was used improperly by the Clinton Foundation. Oh, by the way, I believe it wasn’t August 18th. If we come to think about, it was August 8th of 2018, that that jet was chartered by the Department of Justice.

    “There’s a lot happening because the Clinton Foundation is not only linked to the Clintons. As I said at the beginning of this video, it is a front for the Deep State. Money-laundering, drugs, weapons. You take down the Foundation, you not only take down the Clintons, but you take down a huge chunk of the Deep State.”

    Dr. Janda then speaks to the Mueller investigation’s subpoena of Dr. Jerome Corsi , during which he was interrogated for 40 hours and then attorney Larry Clayman deciding to represent him:

    “What Corsi ended up saying at the end of that Thanksgiving weekend is, ‘Look, I was being forced to lie.’ That’s suborning perjury. ‘Mueller’s prosecutors were telling me I had a lie in order to to finger Trump and I can’t do that. I can’t do that, okay? I’ll go to jail. I’m not doing that.’

    “Suborning perjury is a crime. When you’re suborning perjury that leads to the removal of a President of the United States unduly, that’s Sedition. And that is what Larry Clayman decided to work with on Jerry Corsi. They are suing Mueller and his team for 350 million bucks, for trying to get Corsi to lie, to suborn perjury against the President United States.

    “This case is going to court on January 3rd. [Mueller’s team] tried to push it off by saying, ‘Oh, the government shutdown, so we can’t!’ Oh, no. Judge said, ‘Bull.’ It’s going to court on January 3rd. We have to watch what happens January 3rd but in addition to that, Larry Clayman is tough and he has won some huge cases. He represented a friend of mine against the NSA and beat ’em…Jerry Corsi, I believe is in really good hands. For Larry Clayman to take the case, one, he does take the case honestly; he thinks he can really win and really shove it into the Deep State’s throat; and number two, he wouldn’t have taken Corsi’s case if he felt Corsi was not playing for the freedom fighters.

    “The Senate has jumped on and is trying to coerce Corsi to testify and to present information, so that they can leak it, right? And Larry Clayman wrote this great letter and I got my hands on it, I want to read it to you, because the fake media is not going to touch this.

    “It was written to Sen. Richard M. Burr (R-NC), who’s a Republican – who’s really a Globalist – Sen. Mark Warner (D-CA), Globalist, of this [Senate Intelligence Committee] and they’re trying to get Corsi to hand over information and testify in front of them, right? And here’s what Larry Clayman said in the letter he wrote to Burr and Warner:

    “‘In response to your letter, dated December 14, 2018 to David Gray and me, Larry Clayman, Counsel for Dr. Jerome Corsi, on behalf of Dr. Corsi, we respectfully decline your offer to our client to produce volumous, overly-broad, irrelevant documents, which you can obtain from Special Counsel Robert Mueller in any event, as well as to appear before an interview with your so-called quote bipartisan committee staff endquote. Rather, you and this bipartisan staff are highly-politicized and thus ill-equipped to conduct a fair and neutral investigation and are merely a part of the ongoing Republican and Democrat elite establishment witch hunt to destroy the presidency of Donald J Trump by making persons, such as our client whipping-boys in this unethical, if not illegal pursuit to coerce false testimony. Dr. Corsi will not be part of this and thus, we respectfully request that you do not continue to harass and effectively threaten him and his family, as has been the case with the Special Counsel in his unethical, pro-Clinton, Pro-Democrat and anti-Trump, conflicted prosecutors. On behalf of our client, we wish you a Happy New Year, free from politics of personal destruction, designed to serve the interests of the elite establishments of both political parties, bent on taking down the 45th President of the United States, so they can run their own candidates for the White House in 2020. Sincerely, Larry Clayman.’

    “Boom. It’s my understanding that the Deep State is petrified of Clayman and of what Corsi has.

    “They have Deep State operatives coercing perjury in order to entrap a president on false charges. This is huge. And they’re panicked. And it’s my understanding Mueller’s team are trying to settle this so that this doesn’t go anywhere. Well, Clayman might settle part of it but he’s not gonna shut up – and neither is Corsi, I believe.

    “There are things happening and I believe 2019 is going to be a big year for freedom fighters, really bad year for the Deep State. Let’s see what happens in that hearing on January 3rd.

    “Let’s really keep watching these whistle blowers, because Doyle and Moynihan, they’re not backing off, they are not backing off and [US Attorney John] Huber still has his investigation on the Clinton emails; on how this was handled by the Department of Justice and the FBI and his investigation on what the FBI and Department of Justice did in their framing, if you will of the Trump Administration with this fake Russian hack narrative – that’s where Huber’s focused.

    “And remember, Department of Justice official, Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who was the guy who brought us all this information, which has led to 26 high officials in the FBI and Department of Justice to be either fired, resigned, reassigned or removed and put on hold, because of ongoing investigate internal investigations – and remember Horowitz is the guy, when it came out just this past week that that Mueller’s team tried to deep-six 19,000 text messages between Strzok and Page – who came forward and said we got ’em? We got the 19,000? Horowitz. Horowitz is also the guy who recommended McCain for prosecution.

    “There’s a lot coming and I understand everybody’s frustrated because there haven’t been any orange jumpsuits. The Deep State is panicked and if you don’t believe that, go back to that George HW Bush funeral and take a look at Jeb. One, he shouldn’t play poker but number two, that’s not the reaction of a guy who’s winning! If you look at these other people opening their programs and…[their reactions], those aren’t winners. They’re losers. I thank you for joining me.” "
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    ^that was a long but excellent read.
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    another long read, perhaps not much new, but ...

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/eviden...covered-it-up/

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    EVIDENCE: Brennan and Clapper Hacked FISA Court Judge Reggie Walton; Comey Covered It Up



    Evidence is now circulating among lawmakers in Washington that makes the case that Obama administration intelligence officials John Brennan and James Clapper hacked FISA court judge Reggie Walton in addition to Supreme Court Justice John Roberts.
    Big League Politics’ expose on the alleged Roberts hack has rocked the corridors of power. Now, we have more information coming to light about the FISA court — which infamously held no hearings regarding the fraudulent FISA warrant applications to surveil Carter Page and by extension other members of President Trump’s team. And there’s more: James Comey’s henchmen at the FBI are proven to have covered it up. (RELATED: How Deep State ‘Journalist’ Michael Isikoff Has Been Setting Up Mueller’s Enemies For Years).
    Tapes released by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow — preserved on a Whistleblower Soundcloud page — show real estate billionaire Timothy Blixseth explaining Brennan and Clapper’s surveillance program to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and detective Mike Zullo. The existence of this surveillance program has been corroborated by Wikileaks’ “Vault 7” release and by the public comments of former CIA and NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who says he worked on the program for Brennan and Clapper.
    Montgomery has gone public with his claims exposing how the program was used to spy on President Donald Trump when he was a private citizen.
    Montgomery has gained immunity and desperately wants House Intelligence Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes or other lawmakers to call him to testify about what he knows.
    Latest: Trump's First Step Act To Free Matthew Charles, Man Who Went Back To Prison After Rebuilding Life Due To Release Error
    On the explosive tapes, Blixseth walks Arpaio and Zullo through the details of the program on a computer screen. At one point, the three begin pulling up specific names of targeted individuals.

    “You know who that guy is? That’s the head of the FISA court they hacked into, Reggie Walton,” Blixseth tells the investigators.
    “John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court, was hacked,” Blixseth tells Arpaio and Zullo.
    LISTEN TO THE TAPE HERE (18:00 Minute Mark)
    Insiders have always been skeptical of Roberts’ motives for siding with President Obama on the 2012 Obamacare case. While there’s still no available evidence that Roberts was blackmailed, the allegation that he was “hacked” by Obama officials provides some more context into the justice’s controversial career.
    As Big League Politics reported, former FBI director James Comey seized and buried volumes of information that demonstrated this wide-ranging government surveillance operation targeting Donald Trump before he became president.

    Larry Klayman, attorney for former NSA and CIA contractor and whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, delivered to the FBI 47 hard drives and data amounting to more than 600 million pages of documentation on the surveillance scheme. Then-FBI director James Comey’s general counsel James Baker took the data into his possession, according to multiple sources. But despite possessing Montgomery’s bombshell whistleblower revelations, Comey never acted on or publicized the information.

    Additionally, Comey’s former firm Lockheed Martin granted entry to Montgomery to one of its facilities to help him work on the alleged mass surveillance program, which was allegedly overseen by Obama administration officials John Brennan and James Clapper and specifically targeted Trump.
    “This guy showed me 900 million phone calls. And I see myself in there. I see people I know. I see Donald Trump in there a zillion times, and Bloomberg is in there,” Blixseth said on the tape, referring to information that Montgomery allegedly showed him.
    “We don’t have any comment,” the FBI told Big League Politics when questioned about the existence of the program.
    “I provided to the FBI seventeen businesses of Donald Trump, including the Trump Tower, the Trump leasing programs, all of these different programs, and including Trump himself and the various family members that had been wiretapped under these programs,” Montgomery said in a recent interview. “There has been a wiretap on Trump for years.”
    “I started by going to Maricopa County and showing that Sheriff Arpaio himself was wiretapped under the Obama administration,” the whistleblower said.
    “I was a CIA contractor both under John Brennan and under James Clapper and these individuals were running domestic surveillance programs in the United States collecting information on Americans. This isn’t political. They were collecting information on Republicans and Democrats. But they collected everything they could find. Bank accounts, phone numbers, chats, emails, and they collected a massive amount of it under the Obama administration,” Montgomery said.
    I reported on how Peter Strzok, an agent of Comey’s FBI, was the point man on every single aspect of Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the failed Deep State plot to target President Donald Trump for destruction.
    WASHINGTON — More and more details are pouring out about the underhanded conspiracy to damage and impeach President Donald Trump by Obama operatives John Brennan, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates and a few others. The effort even has a special code name: Operation Crossfire Hurricane.

    They used Peter Strzok as their go-to guy, which is why their operation is now falling apart. Strzok’s massive illegal activities and incompetence could open up the entire Crossfire Hurricane team to numerous federal charges.
    Both John Brennan and James Comey used Peter Strzok to damage President Donald Trump. Strzok is the disgraced FBI agent and fired Robert Mueller team member whose text messages with mistress Lisa Page form the biggest scandal in FBI history. The lovers conspired to illegally bring down Trump, all while the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign.
    Strzok interviewed Hillary Clinton without putting her under oath, and granted immunity to Cheryl Mills and Clinton’s other associates right before he flew to London to meet with Christopher Steele to work on the anti-Trump dossier, which was sponsored by the Clinton-funded firm Fusion GPS. That dossier was used to fraudulently obtain FISA warrants to surveil Trump Tower. Barack Obama read bits of the dossier in his daily presidential briefings, courtesy of Brennan. Fusion GPS, meanwhile, sent operatives into Trump Tower to entrap Don Jr. and Jared Kushner in a meeting with planted Russians.
    When it was time for the conspirators to focus on Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, Strzok was there to run information about the adviser to the Australians. When it was time to take out Trump’s national security adviser General Michael Flynn, Strzok was there to stage an “ambush” interrogation of Flynn without Flynn’s lawyer present.
    Let’s walk through Strzok’s amazing Zelig-like role in every facet of Operation Crossfire Hurricane:

    This was an official document used to spur on the Robert Mueller investigation. But the document did not actually find any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, it merely said that Vladimir Putin “aspired” to help Trump and that Russia “developed a clear preference for Trump.” The Christopher Steele dossier was added as an “appendix” to the ICA report, even though Brennan lied and told Congress that it was never used.

    George Papadopoulos was surveilled in real time by the FBI. Who set him up? Peter Strzok, whose meeting with the Australian ambassador in London provided key basis for the creation of Robert Mueller’s investigation, according to none other than the New York Times.
    Tyler Durden Explains:
    “The FBI sent counterintelligence agents, one of whom was Peter Strzok, to London in the summer of 2016 to meet with Australian ambassador, Alexander Downer, to describe his meeting with Trump campaign advisor, George Papadopoulos.
    The meeting with Downer was described as “highly unusual,” and “helped provide the foundation for a case that, a year ago Thursday, became the special counsel investigation.”
    The FBI kept details of the operation secret from most of the DOJ – with “only about five Justice Department officials” aware of the full scope of the case.”
    Strzok Cleared Hillary Clinton Right Before He Left For London
    Big League Politics called attention in July 2017 to the fact that Strzok was serving on the Mueller team after personally overseeing the Hillary Clinton email investigation at the FBI and personally conducting the interview with Hillary Clinton that was not under oath and which led to no incarceration for the Democrat candidate.
    Strzok also withheld information about the Hillary case from Congress according to this text:

    With the pressure on, Strzok’s wife Melissa Hodgman, Associate Director of the enforcement division of the Securities and Exchange Commission, is scrubbing herObama and Clinton links. Hodgman was promoted by Obama just two weeks before FBI director James Comey re-opened the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email scandal in 2016, leading political insiders to suspect that Hodgman might have been involved in the federal government’s cover-up.
    Some of the Liked pages on her Facebook account on December 3 included “Thank You Obama” and “We Voted For Hillary.”
    Strzok Sets Up Flynn
    On January 24, 2017, Peter Strzok interviewed General Michael Flynn inside the White House alongside another agent. Flynn’s lawyer was not present. Flynn apparently did not tell the White House about his meeting. Guess who did? Sally Yates, the anti-Trump deputy attorney general whose underling told the FBI to shut down the Clinton Foundation case. Yates informed the White House on January 26 that Flynn met with the FBI.
    That was the beginning of the end for the original Trump White House.
    Strzok was close personal friends with the foreign intelligence judge Rudolph Contreras who accepted General Flynn’s guilty plea. Contreras recused himself after he already accepted Flynn’s guilty plea.
    Strzok and Page detailed their plan to meet with Contreras in a July 25, 2016 series of texts:
    PAGE: “Rudy is on the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court]! Did you know that? Just appointed two months ago.”
    STRZOK: “I did. I need to get together with him.”
    PAGE: “said he’d gotten on a month or two ago at a graduation party we were both at.”

    Strzok and Page’s Texts Revealed Their Anti-Trump Plot
    It is well known that Strzok and Page discussed their anti-Trump conspiracy many thousands of times over text messages that have been mostly released. The lovers’ repeated references to “CF” refer to “Crossfire.” Here are Hot Air’s favorites:
    “Strzok: God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0.
    Strzok: Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…
    Strzok: I am riled up. Trump is a f***ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.”
    Clapper Tried To Use The Supreme Court To Block Trump’s Inauguration
    In January, as Brennan was having Strzok write the fraudulent ICA report, Brennan’s partner in crime, Obama director of national intelligence James Clapper, was cooking up his own side plot to stop the Trump inauguration from happening. Clapper held a meeting in his office in January 2017 to discuss using a female Supreme Court justice to block Trump from becoming president due to the “Russia” conspiracy.
    A high-level member of the intelligence community who witnessed the meeting said that Clapper discussed going to one of three female Supreme Court justices to make the case that alleged Russian interference could invalidate Trump’s claim to the presidency.

    Another text the witness sent to BLP’s source around the same time described how the Deep State was making General Michael Flynn a “rising target” for his alleged involvement with Russians, and stating that House Speaker Paul Ryan is a “wild card” in the Deep State wars.






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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
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    I couldn't find much on the net about this guy - Law Johnston but he certainly speaks with conviction and talks of sources
    that have convinced him of the very real possibility of the temporary implementation of martial law for the safety and security
    of the people.
    It is now January 3, 2019. Obviously, that did not happen.

    I'm not sure who is behind such warnings, which have occurring, if my memory serves me, for many years now.

    However I no longer find such bold warnings particularly informative or predictive.

    Such warnings do seem to serve at least one purpose, and that's to discredit us "conspiracy theorists" with our "normie" friends, neighbors and relatives, when, once again, the predicted big event doesn't happen.
    I am convinced that such warnings, and the explanations that Law Johnston gives, saying that Trump and the patriotic US Military backing him are finally going to free the United States from British rule, and that they are going to do this, in particular, by taking down the Federal Reserve, which is controlled by British banks, and in turn which controls the U.S. monetary system ... these warnings and explanations are false and misleading.

    ... deeply and deliberately false and misleading.

    For a more accurate take on the role of the Federal Reserve in all this, and the plans of the Deep State, read closely Brandon Smith's new article Trump Is A Pied Piper For The New World Order Agenda.

    Unlike Brandon Smith (with whom I hesitate to disagree much, as he gets it right so often), it would not surprise me to see a significant (well, seemingly significant) change in the structure of the U.S. Federal Reserve (the "Fed"), later on in this multi-year crash and burn of the American and world economies, finances and monetary systems. I am making the long shot prediction that the U.S. Federal Reserve will be moved, from being an "independent" (i.e., controlled by hidden hands) organization, to being under the U.S. Treasury (i.e., still controlled by the same hands, just better hidden)

    It is my understanding (though I have not researched this closely) that the central banks of most currency issuing nations are already formally under the control of their government's treasury department. So such a move of the Fed to put it under the U.S. Treasury would just do what is already done elsewhere, and would in any case serve as a great distraction and false solution to all of us Americans who have come to take the Fed to be one of, if not the primary, villain in this grand tragedy.

    The great controlling families, who under various family surnames, secret societies, secret societies, corporations, governments, and NGO's have controlled humanity for thousands (at least) of years will continue to do so, and debt-money will continue to be one of their favorite tools for doing so. The national, regional (EU), and global (BIS) central banks issue and control this debt-money, regularly pumping and dumping economies to their advantage, and will continue to do so.

    We are about to witness the greatest dump of our lifetime (even if you're 101 years old and still recall the Great Depression that started, in the US, in 1929).

    Brandon Smith's article (see link above) is another well written piece of his, with important insights.

    I continue to value understanding over "CRITICAL INFORMATION!! SPREAD FAR AND WIDE IMMEDIATELY!" (to quote your post of a video by Law Johnston) fear mongering.

    The better we understand, the better we can navigate the coming storm.
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    Giving some thought to the post right above me I don't think some are taking into account the genuine fear expressed in Hillary's voice when she lost, screaming in that video clip, "if he wins we're all going to jail!" This take on the "Pied Piper" while interesting does not seem to take into account that it truly appeared to me no one saw Trump winning the election on that side! They didn't think she would lose! I don't see how that Pied piper theory can be on based on that seemingly genuine response from the opposition at the horror of the thought of DJT winning. That seemed real to me that fear.
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    That fear could still be very real if, as some have been suspecting all along, Trump is also affiliated with some faction of the Cabal (and how could he not be, to have gained as much power as he has?), just a different faction than the Clintons. There is obviously a huge amount of maneuvering going on, but one thing is apparent-- the nature of those who are on the path of self-service will only be allied with others (of the same persuasion) as long as it serves them, and they can turn on each other at the slightest provocation, since their whole mindset is based on fear.
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    Giving some thought to the post right above me I don't think some are taking into account the genuine fear expressed in Hillary's voice when she lost, screaming in that video clip, "if he wins we're all going to jail!" This take on the "Pied Piper" while interesting does not seem to take into account that it truly appeared to me no one saw Trump winning the election on that side! They didn't think she would lose! I don't see how that Pied piper theory can be on based on that seemingly genuine response from the opposition at the horror of the thought of DJT winning. That seemed real to me that fear.
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    Engdahl Newsletter Thirteen: The Role of the Round Table Orchestrating World War II
    F. William Engdahl info@williamengdahl.com via aweber.com
    Jan 3, 2019

    This issue of my free newsletter I would like to devote to an heretofore unpublished chapter of a manuscript I worked on in the end of the 1990's dealing with the little-known role of a secretive network in Great Britain known as the Round Table. This manuscript never been shared before. I have decided now to make it exclusively available for you as a Newsletter subscriber to get better insights into history which the general public never reads about."
    ©F. William Engdahl
    August 1998

    Chapter Ten:
    A New World Order Built on the Ashes of War
    Securing the English-speaking Union

    "H.G. Wells, intimate of Lord Lothian's circles in Britain's foreign policy establishment, and, without doubt the most effective propagandist for the political outlook they represented, had summed it up well before Britain declared war on Germany in 1939. Utter destruction of the present world order would be a necessary precondition for creating a new world order, an order in which "yapping about nationality," as Wells contemptuously termed it, would be eliminated in favor of a World State. That World State had to be built on the ashes of war, a project which Wells preferred to call, "The Open Conspiracy."

    Lord Lothian had echoed Wells' vision in a remarkable address to a 1937 conference of the World Council of Churches. The conference had taken place in Lothian's alma mater of Oxford University, at the very time Lothian himself had been involved in the intense back-channel diplomatic initiatives between Chamberlain and Hitler.

    "Only a few persons appear to comprehend what far-reaching and daemoniacal consequences result from the fact that national sovereignty is the unquestioned foundation of the present international order," Lothian argued to the members of the World Council of Churches assembled.

    "One does not exaggerate when one says, that the catastrophe vividly described by H.G. Wells in his book, 'The Shape of Things to Come,' cannot be averted unless we escape from this present state of affairs." Lothian proceeded to outline his proposal for achieving this escape from national sovereignty.

    "No system of simple cooperation is able to rid the world of the extraordinary power of national sovereignty. There is no other effective cure for the daemoniacal and evil consequences of national sovereignty, than through the creation of a single common sovereignty, a world federal state. At the beginning, such a World State does not need to encompass the entire world. It can begin with a smaller group of nations which grasp the real purpose of the idea, and then, proceed to expand." A union of the English-speaking nations, which would include the U.S., was uppermost in his mind.

    What Wells and Lothian left unstated in more naive company, of course, was that for all the noble democratic rhetoric, theirs was to be a selective world order, in all crucial respects modeled on the same racially elitist old world order of the Anglo-Saxon world, or, as Wells termed it, an order dominated by a "great English-speaking English-thinking synthesis, leading mankind by sheer force of numbers, wealth, equipment and scope."

    Agreeing with Cecil Rhodes, the founder of the Round Table's elite fraternity, Wells stressed that the coming world order must be based on cooperation, "between all the western peoples and, more particularly, between all the Nordic peoples," by which he meant Anglo-Saxon and racially kindred peoples. He insisted that "The British Empire had to be the precursor of a world-state or nothing," and that that world state must also be one in which, "Britain must draw the United States into a closer accord," into a new great English-speaking union.

    A great war would be necessary for organizing such a new order. Since the first strategic alliance in the 1580's between the British monarchy and the King of Portugal, against Phillip II's Spain, one axiom had been fundamental to British geopolitics. Whenever England had been threatened with a decisive strategic loss of power or influence, or saw an opportunity for greater power and influence, she initiated a war to reassert or extend her hegemony. But a war, using the armies, the territories and the blood of her allies, never her own, if it could at all be avoided. This alliance strategy had in no way changed at the time England declared war against Germany in 1939.

    Leading figures of the Round Table group were many things, but they were not stupid. They were well aware that England had emerged from the Great War in 1919, as a deeply indebted former world financial power, even if still the largest colonial power. To continue to exercise predominant influence over the course of world developments, Lothian and others knew all too well, that Britain must forge a unique new alliance relationship.

    Of necessity, this time it had to be an alliance with the only economic giant on the world stage, sufficiently powerful and pliable to establish a new world order in accord with their design. It would be the first time in her history where England had forged a strategic alliance with a partner economically stronger. It helped the task immensely, that that economic giant was at the time relatively naive and inexperienced in the ways of British geopolitics, as the decade of the 1940's opened, and the war in Europe began to widen. A decade of economic depression appeared to have humbled America sufficiently to warrant the new try at alliance.

    Lothian and Wells' post-war world order was to be centered around an "Atlantic Partnership," of England with the United States. This Anglo-American Special Relationship as it came to be known, in their conception, must come to dominate or control an array of new institutions of world order, military, political and monetary.

    In the December 1941 issue of the "Round Table" magazine, in a piece written only days before Japanese bombing of the American fleet at Pearl Harbor, they elaborated the goals of their postwar Anglo-American cooperation. The central role would be played, of course, by Britain in the postwar world, even if discreetly: "The British nation has generations of experience in co-operating with other free peoples in far distant parts of the world, and in governing dependent countries not able to stand by themselves. The American nation," they argued, "has practically no such experience at all, and has neither the institutions nor the political outlook to fit it very well for either task." This was their trump card as they saw it.

    That being the case, they demanded "everything to foster the closest collaboration with the United States, by the same means which have been found successful between the British nations." The Round Table call emphasized that, "if disaster is not to overtake the world again, the United States must, however reluctantly, now take its full share of this responsibility." Responsibility, however, for an agenda made in London, not in Washington.

    British Foreign Office policy circles needed, above all, to win the United States to their idea of postwar world order. To do that, required bringing America once again into a war in alliance with England, and in the process, to overcome deep American suspicion, distrust, remaining anger at unpaid Versailles debts, and other broken promises left from 1919.

    America had been significantly weakened through the Great Depression, and, they reasoned, would be more amenable than in 1919 to agree the English view of world responsibility for a great power. The method was an old one in British foreign policy practice. As soon as France had been humiliated by the showdown with Kitchner at Fashoda on the Nile in 1898, England began to organize France into the anti-German Entente Cordiale. Similarly, as soon as Czarist Russia had its naval fleet in the Pacific destroyed by Japan in the war of 1904-5, England began to negotiate a strategic Anglo-Russian alliance with a weakened Russia. It mattered not, that in 1905 Britain had had an alliance with Japan. British interests dictated the shifting alliance strategy.

    Now at the onset of the second great war of the century, Round Table circles knew painfully well, their new postwar order had to be built on a foundation which would avoid the primary defect of the failed League of Nations. Britain's principal adversary of the 1920's must become her principal ally. This time around, the United States would remain not on the periphery, but at the very center of their new global world order. However, she would be bound inextricably, through a spider's web of carefully-crafted alliances, to Britain's larger geopolitical agenda.

    The reason for their emphasis on winning America over was clear. To maintain "peace" in the postwar world would require, "a complete supremacy of Anglo-American military forces, and particularly naval and air forces," as they put it in the December 1941 writing. This military supremacy, in turn, "requires the maintenance at all costs of the stability of exchanges, currencies and prices in the main trading countries of the world." In short, before the United States had even declared war against Japan and the Axis powers, the Round Table group had elaborated what was to emerge after the war as NATO, as the United Nations Organization, as the Bretton Woods monetary control agencies of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.

    This new world order was to be the crowning point of the lifelong efforts of Halifax, Lord Lothian and their select group. To secure it, however, first required them to participate in and try to shape the greatest carnage in human history, the Second World War. Their design for the postwar order above all dictated decisive, and otherwise inexplicable events of World War II, including the unimaginable, gruesome destruction of more than sixty million lives in the six years of war between 1939 and 1945.

    Only a war on such a grand global scale, Lothian and the others were convinced, one involving Russia, Germany, Japan and China, would be sufficient in its extent and horror to galvanize the public sentiment of the Allied nations, above all the United States, behind their scheme for world federalism. (1).


    The Round World of Halford Mackinder

    For their part, neither Hitler, nor his internal opposition within the German General Staff and Foreign Ministry, comprehended how they were being used as grotesque pawns in a global chess game to advance a greater geopolitical design. They fully misunderstood the basis of British strategy, and above all, ignored the explicit axioms of British geopolitics. They were far from the only ones.

    Sir Halford John Mackinder, Royal Geographer, a member of the King's Privy Council, who served long years as chairman of the Imperial Shipping Committee, was the acknowledged architect of what came to be called, "British geopolitics."

    Mackinder had formulated his core doctrine already in 1904, well before the First World War. In essence, he argued, there existed "a correlation between the larger geographical and the larger historical generalizations...a formula which shall express certain aspects of geographical causation in universal history. That formula should have a practical value, as setting into perspective some of the competing forces in current international politics."

    For Mackinder, the "geographical pivot" of all world history was what he termed the Russian, or Eurasian "Heartland." Control over this Eurasian Heartland determined who would control the totality of Europe, Asia and Africa, designated by Mackinder as the "World Island."

    In a text he had written in 1919, as a guide for the victors at the Versailles peace talks, Mackinder described the region centered in Germany, Austro-Hungary, Poland and Czechoslovakia, as East Europe. "Who rules East Europe," he insisted, "commands the Heartland. Who rules the Heartland, commands the World-Island." He took his geopolitical conclusion one step further: "Who rules the World-Island commands the World." It was meant as a stern warning to the Versailles negotiators, as well as to later generations of British policymakers.

    Mackinder himself was a member of a close-knit circle of "new Empire" advocates, which included leading Round Table figures such as Leopold Amery, Lord Milner, Lord Cecil and H.G. Wells. Defending the supremacy of the British Empire, Mackinder argued vehemently that Britain must never allow any genuine alliance, economic or otherwise, between Germany and Russia. Were such a continental alliance between Central Europe and the Heartland ever to emerge, Mackinder warned, "the empire of the world would then be in sight."

    To prevent emergence of that rival "empire of the world," Round Table policy, as executed first by the Chamberlain government, and after May 1940, by Churchill, was to orchestrate events for a bloody war of mutual destruction between Russia and Germany, one which would also bring Japan into battle against China and Russia in the Pacific Theater.

    That global conflagration was to form the basis for convincing America to overcome her skepticism about the war, and, more importantly, skepticism about a permanent postwar alliance with Britain.

    Such an Anglo-American alliance in a war against the German Axis powers was necessary, in order to "save the human civilization," as the Round Table's magazine described it in December 1939. Of course, the theater of this war was to be as far from British shores as possible, fought by others, and ultimately won by the Round Table policy elite in Britain.

    In 1943, in the heat of battle, the London foreign policy establishment had determined that the task of organizing the American establishment to their postwar order was so vital that they asked Mackinder, then 82 years old, personally to outline for a special American audience, the blueprint for the Round Table's postwar world order. Now that America was fully in the war on England's side, the shaping of what British Foreign Minister Anthony Eden termed the "After-War," had begun to assume urgency. Only if America were convinced of the British postwar agenda, would Churchill be able to direct the theaters of conflict to maximum advantage for Britain's postwar design.

    Very few in the United States, beyond the elite circles of the New York banking and business world with its close ties to London, had the slightest appreciation who Halford Mackinder was, let alone, the awesome importance of his system of geopolitics, for the shaping of strategy among leading British circles. Only a handful of American scholars were aware that Hitler's own teacher, Karl Haushofer, was also a disciple of Mackinder's geopolitics, even if viewing the process from a German, rather than British perspective.

    Mackinder argued that Britain, as the world's leading sea-power, must prevent, at all costs, consolidation of an alliance between Germany and Russia. Haushofer agreed with Mackinder that Germany, as the dominant land power in central Europe, were she to control the Heartland of Russia and Ukraine, would indeed be in a position to control the entire Eurasian landmass.

    However, Haushofer argued, and Hitler repeated his argument in "Mein Kampf," Germany, when once in control of the Heartland, as the hegemonic land power of Eurasia, must then propose to England a bi-polar division of the world. The British Empire would be the hegemonic sea power, and the German Reich, the hegemonic Eurasian land power.

    Pursuit of Mackinder's geopolitical doctrine of Heartland and World Island, was to shape the world for the entirety of the Second World War, and for almost five decades after, despite the fact that most of mankind would never realize who had been the architect of that order.

    To further his geopolitical design, in the summer of 1943 Mackinder turned to an elite New York journal, a most influential forum to address the American establishment. It was "Foreign Affairs," the magazine of the New York Council on Foreign Relations. The Council itself was the sister organization to Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), or Chatham House, as it was known. Both the New York Council and Chatham House had been created as a joint project of the Round Table, with the backing of the J.P. Morgan banking group, in Paris, in private negotiations during the 1919 Versailles Peace talks.

    From the outset, the Royal Institute had been shaped by leading figures of the Round Table. The New York Council on Foreign Relations, by J.P. Morgan partners, later joined by strong participation and financing from the Rockefeller Standard Oil group.

    The alliance of the two, Chatham House and the New York Council, had been created in order to channel British policies to America's leading banking and industrial circles. During the war, British Round Table insider, Arnold Toynbee, had transferred all his Royal Institute papers to the New York Council for safe-keeping, while Toynbee himself remained in London to serve as head of British Foreign Office Intelligence. The appearance of Mackinder's 1943 essay, "The Round World and the Winning of the Peace," in the New York Council's journal, was a precisely targetted intervention into the U.S. debate.

    What Mackinder presented to his American readers was a postwar order which would encompass the globe. The postwar order, he argued, must create a system of permanent containment of Germany, as well as of Japan, as the two pillars of the new global order.

    A war-prone Germany, he argued, would in the future be "controlled by strong embankments of power on either hand--land power (of the Soviet Union-w.e.) to the east, in the Heartland, and sea power to the west, in the North Atlantic basin.

    "Face the German mind with an enduring certainty that any war fought by Germany must be a war on two unshakable fronts," Mackinder told his American audience. "For this to happen, it will be necessary in the first place that there be effective and lasting cooperation between America, Britain and France, the first for depth of defense, the second as the moated forward stronghold--a Malta on a grander scale--and the third as the defensible bridgehead." It was the broad outline of what after 1948, with only slight modification, became NATO.

    In the Pacific region, Mackinder outlined the necessary postwar design as well. "The conquering of Japan waits for a while. In due course China will receive capital on a generous scale as a debt of honor, to help in her romantic adventure of building for a quarter of humanity a new civilization, neither quite Eastern nor quite Western." He was describing a yet-to-be communist-run China under Mao Tse-tung, at a time that outcome was anything but certain.

    "Then," Mackinder stressed, "the ordering of the Outer World," by which he meant nations bordering on the Pacific Ocean, "will be relatively easy, with China, the United States and the United Kingdom leading the way."

    Making clear to his American readers just who must dominate this postwar order, Mackinder declared, "What a pity the alliance, negotiated after Versailles, between the United States, the United Kingdom and France was not implemented! What trouble and sadness that act might have saved!"

    Sir Halford Mackinder outlined in the few brief pages, what was to become the broad blueprint for a postwar order lasting until the crumbling of the Berlin Wall in the end of the 1980's.

    Germany would be faced by a permanently hostile Soviet foe, tens of millions of whose sons would have died at the hands of German forces during the war, and by an Atlantic alliance with Britain and the United States at its heart.

    Similarly, Japanese geopolitical ambitions would be permanently contained by the British and American alliance in the Pacific, and a hostile communist China to the west. Only such a permanent hostility from the great Chinese expanse to Japan's west, as that which would come from a regime run by Mao's communists, could assure for Mackinder's geopolitical design a lasting effectiveness.

    The nurturing and shaping of the postwar order, which depended above all on the winning of the United States as its centerpiece, was of such strategic importance that Lord Lothian himself, the most pivotal spokesman of Round Table policy in England, was sent to Washington as British Ambassador, days after outbreak of war in Europe in 1939. Lothian was joined in Washington by no fewer than a dozen fellow members of the Round Table circle during the war years, including Lazard Brothers banker, Lord Brand, as special Treasury representative. Adam Marris, Sir Arthur Salter, Harold Butler and others filled out the Washington Round Table group. The American relationship had become, in effect, a Round Table proprietary in those critical months.

    Lothian, who, little-known to his American audience had only months before been among the strongest advocates of German appeasement, soon became admired across America, for his making impassioned speeches from St. Louis to Boston to Philadelphia, portraying himself as the foremost spokesman for the moral cause of democratic civilization, against dictatorial Nazi tyranny. Until his sudden death in December 1940, Lothian played a vital role in organizing the highest circles, as well as the broadest public of the United States for ultimate support of the British cause, at the time when America was strongly neutral, and highly uncertain about joining another European war.

    As early as October 25 1939, when the war against Germany was limited to dropping propaganda leaflets over Poland, Lothian addressed the anglophile Pilgrim Society in New York, to begin his tireless campaign to win America to the new order.

    After taking note of the minor "technical" detail that America was still adamantly neutral, he began to speak of what the postwar world should be. "We are fighting a defensive war," Lord Lothian told his elite American audience. "We are trying to prevent the hordes of paganism and barbarism from destroying what is left of civilized Europe." At that point, he became overly generous with the truth, "We are putting every nerve into the task. We are up to our necks in action." England at the time was in the midst of what was called the "phoney war."

    Warming up to his American audience, Lothian made a direct attack on U.S. neutrality, declaring with florid rhetoric, "It is inconceivable to me that the United States, which has already done such immeasurable things for the freedom of mankind, which has produced the greatest democratic leaders that the world has seen, should not have its own contribution to make to the solution of the greatest problem that has ever presented itself to the genius of man." Conveniently, Lothian omitted his own central role only months earlier, in shaping that "greatest problem," as a leading architect of Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler. (2).


    Engineering American Public Opinion

    Lothian's job in winning America to the British side was made easier by highly effective support from America's most influential journalist. Walter Lippmann had started his career as a protege of the Morgan banking interests in 1914, shortly after leaving Harvard, when he was made editor of a new, well-financed liberal weekly, "The New Republic."

    The journal was owned by a J.P. Morgan partner, Willard Straight, and his wife, Dorothy Whitney Straight. Its name, "New Republic," had been suggested by Lippmann from a phrase used by H.G. Wells, whom Lippmann had met in England in 1913.

    By the 1930's, before the era of television, Lippmann had become America's most widely read and respected political commentator, with a three-times-weekly column in the New York "Herald Tribune," syndicated in more than 200 newspapers across America. What Lippmann never mentioned to his readers, as he argued for support of the British cause, was that he, Lippmann, was also a secret initiate member of Lothian's Round Table circle.

    Not surprising, therefore, Lippmann echoed Halford Mackinder and the Round Table's views on war aims. He published it in a widely read book by the same name, which he had written in 1942 and into early 1943, even before Mackinder's "Foreign Affairs" piece circulated in the United States.

    In his book, "U.S. Foreign Policy and U.S. War Aims," Lippmann called for creation of a permanent "Atlantic Community," centered around the postwar alliance of America, Britain and France, to contain what he called "the German war party." This Atlantic pressure on Germany must of necessity be combined, he argued, with an implacably anti-German Soviet group of states to Germany's East. Interestingly, Lippmann, writing well before Yalta, included Poland in a postwar Soviet system: "Any plan for disarmament (of Germany)...or international control would be frustrated if Germany were able to detach, let us say, France from the Atlantic Community, or Poland from the Russian Orbit."

    Lippmann was in fact outlining and preparing public opinion in America for what would become the postwar antagonistic blocs of the Warsaw Pact and NATO, directly following Mackinder's outline.

    Similarly, for Japan, Lippmann, again taking the geopolitics of Mackinder and the Round Table as his guide, proposed, "Once Japan is ousted from the mainland, she cannot return without the consent of Russia and China. Once she is ousted from the islands of the Pacific, she cannot return to them if the United States is determined to prevent her."

    The core of Lippmann's proposed postwar U.S. aims was an Atlantic Community, one centered on a special Anglo-American relationship, which Lippmann called, "the Oceanic Community." In the Oceanic Community, the United States and Britain must cooperate, despite all past bitterness and conflicts. In his vision of an Atlantic Community, Lippmann included the nations of the Americas, together with Iceland, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, even including neutral Sweden, Switzerland and Greece.

    All this, Mackinder argued, would form the cornerstone for a new world order, as it indeed became. It would become a world order in which a tiny, near bankrupt island power effectively dominated world events from behind the scenes, that, for more than four decades following the end of the war.

    In addition to his intimate ties with the British circles of Lothian and the Round Table, Lippmann was perhaps the most skilled American manipulator of popular consensus. He had spent years studying the idea, and wrote a book on the then-new discipline of "engineering public opinion." In the book, Lippmann declared, "the common interests very largely elude public opinion entirely, and can be managed only by a specialized class whose interests reach beyond the locality. This class is irresponsible, for it acts upon information that is not common property."

    Lippmann added, "the creation of consent is not a new art," but one which has "improved enormously in technique, as a result of psychological research, coupled with the modern means of communication. The practice of democracy has turned a corner," he declared. "A revolution is taking place infinitely more significant than any shifting of economic power." It was the revolution of mass manipulation, made with psychology rather than guns, in what Lippmann revealingly termed, "the manufacture of consent."

    Lippmann was describing himself and his friends in the Anglo-Saxon establishment when he spoke of an irresponsible elite. He argued that any government depends, ultimately, on public approval. The role of the specialized class or elite of Lippmann's circle, was to "engineer the public's consent to a program or goal." The goal was the postwar world order, and crucial support for Lippmann's effort to win America to Round Table war aims came from an influential American based in London.


    "We interrupt this broadcast..."

    Like Lippmann, also an American who had been coopted into the elite British Round Table circle, Edward R. Murrow broadcast over American CBS radio network from London. In a widely heard program, "This is London," Murrow was able to reach a listening audience of twelve million people. Those radio broadcasts, every day, and often four or five times per day, combined with the regular newspaper columns of Lippmann, were extremely effective in winning a key section of the American intelligentsia, and the ordinary population, to the cause of British informal imperialism, as it was being defined by Wells and the Round Table in the early years of the war.

    By 1940, Murrow's role in London had assumed such importance in mediating the British cause to his American audience, that the U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain, John Winant, warmly referred to Murrow as the "authentic" ambassador, brokering Atlantic relations. He had become widely regarded as "the most important American in London" by that time.

    Murrow, a stage actor by training, had been active since 1933 with the Emergency Committee for Displaced European Scholars, a group tied to the New York Council of Foreign Relations, of which Murrow had also become the youngest member. The Emergency Committee decided which European intellectuals would be allowed refuge in America during the Nazi oppression. The infamous Frankfurt School circles of Kurt Lewin, Herbert Marcuse, Theodore Adorno and others, had been brought to the United States by Murrow's group, where they then deployed to create the psychological climate inside America for the Round Table's postwar order. The Committee itself had been financed by the Rockefeller family, bringing the young Murrow into contact with select New York circles.

    In 1937, well before England had even declared war on Germany, Murrow had been sent to London, where he was trained in radio propaganda by the British government's BBC, at the same time George Orwell and Guy Burgess of the Kim Philby spy ring, were at the British Broadcasting headquarters.

    Murrow had been put in charge of European radio programs by CBS president, William S. Paley, with responsibility for deciding which events and which personalities to make known to the network's large American listening audience. Paley, and Paley's socialite wife, were personal friends of Winston Churchill's son, Randolph Churchill. The Randolph Churchill introduction was useful for Murrow to gain regular access to the Prime Minister.

    In the 1930's radio reached into the homes of some 30 million American families, but was still largely in its infancy. Radio news commentary or regular news programs were almost non-existent. It had been Murrow, the trained stage actor, with tutoring from friends at BBC in London, who pioneered techniques of dramatizing breaking news events to gain maximum listener attention.

    One remarkably successful technique Murrow introduced to heighten the dramatic effect of his London broadcasts during the early months of 1938, was to break into transmission of an ongoing program in progress on the United States CBS network, whether it be a comedy hour, music program or whatever. Murrow would take the microphone, and, with an ominous tone in his voice, announce, "We interrupt this broadcast to bring you news from London of vital breaking developments of the war in Europe. Today Nazi troops marched into..."

    That format, "We interrupt this broadcast...," was used again and again, day after day, to dramatize to American listeners the news of latest German atrocities or military threats. At the time, America had pledged strict neutrality, but Murrow had not.

    Significantly, in October 1938, just one month after the dramatic Munich meeting of Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Daladier with Hitler, where the fate of Czechoslovakia had been sealed, CBS radio carried a dramatized re-enactment of "The War of the Worlds," H.G. Wells' science fiction account of an invasion of the planet by extraterrestrial "alien" creatures, who destroy all civilization. The actor who played the role of radio announcer in Wells' radio drama in 1938, Orson Wells, began the drama with the words, "We interrupt this broadcast to bring you an urgent news bulletin..."

    That broadcast on CBS radio in October 1938, triggered wholesale panic across the United States, with thousands of families getting into their cars or on busses, racing to the countryside to escape the "invaded" cities. The reaction to what had been clearly announced beforehand as a fictional report, whose content spoke of Martian invaders, was afterwards studied by a group of social pyschologists, based out of Princeton New Jersey, and led by Theodor Adorno, Kurt Lewin and a group of Frankfurt School social psychologists, many of whom had been brought to the United States after 1933 by Murrow's Emergency Committee for Displaced European Scholars.

    The Adorno "Radio Project," as the study was named, conducted extensive personal interviews with people who had heard the Orson Wells broadcast. What they found demonstrated the awesome power of well-orchestrated radio. They confirmed what was to be an enormously potent breakthrough in manipulation of public perception and social engineering. Because of the repeated conditioning of American radio listeners by the format of Murrow from London, always announcing, "We interrupt this broadcast...," where the news reported was invariably of some new Nazi military conquest, listeners to Orson Wells' fictional drama psychologically were "certain" what they heard was an actual report of a Nazi invasion of United States cities, and therefore, fled or acted in panic. This, despite the clear statement before the broadcast that it was fiction.

    Such was the subtle nature of the propaganda tools being refined in London by Edward R. Murrow. In London, Murrow was soon sponsored by Lord Milner's widow, Lady Violet Milner, for membership in the Royal Institute for International Affairs, an extremely unusual event for an American. The head of the Royal Institute, Ivison Macadam, became a close personal friend and a frequent dinner guest at Murrow's in London during the early war years. Through Lady Milner's close friendship, as well, Murrow met and soon became part of the Round Table circle, joining his American friend, Walter Lippmann in that elite group. (3).

    Walter Lippmann's and Edward R. Murrow's visions of the postwar Round Table world order required the necessary outcome of the war. But the war was not to be, as some might have imagined, a war fought by Britain and her allies against the alliance of Axis powers led by Germany. Rather, as had been their aim since the Round Table first formulated Chamberlain's appeasement strategy in the 1930's was intended to prepare for Halford Mackinder's war, a war of mutual annihilation, fought first and foremost between Germany and Soviet Russia. All else would be kept secondary.



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    Footnotes:

    1. A remarkable example of Wells' propaganda fiction is the 1935 book out of which he also wrote the movie script for an extremely popular film, "Things to Come," in which a world war breaks out with bombs falling on London in the year 1940. The "fictional" war all but destroys civilization. Out of the rubble of the war emerges a new world government. Wells, H.G., "The Shape of Things to Come," London, The Cresset Press, 1935. The group's vehement hatred of national sovereignty is most bluntly spelled out in the essay by Lord Lothian, "The demoniacal influence of national sovereignty," contained in, Oldham, J.H., ed., "The Universal Church and the World of Nations," Allen & Unwin Ltd., London 1938. The December, 1941 issue of "Round Table" magazine contains the discussion of the group's postwar aims, in a piece titled, "Anglo-American Cooperation."

    2. The postwar geopolitical design is in, Mackinder, Halford, "The Round World and the Winning of the Peace," in "Foreign Affairs," New York, July 1943. The basic formulation of Mackinder's doctrine can be found in his piece, "The Geographical Pivot of History," The Royal Geographical Society, in "Geographical Journal," no. 23, 1904, London. H.G. Wells, in his "Experiment in Autobiography," The Macmillan Co., New York, 1934, describes his debates with Mackinder over the future of the Empire, in meetings of a private circle they named, "Coefficients," which also included the Round Table inner circle figures Lord Milner, Leo Amery and others.

    3. Lippmann, Walter, "U.S. Foreign Policy and U.S. War Aims," Little, Brown & Co., Boston, 1943, and "Public Opinion," Macmillan Co., New York, 1922. Kendrick, Alexander, "Prime Time: The Life of Edward R. Murrow," Avon, New York, 1969. Much of the background on the role of Murrow and the Radio Project and their role in creating the climate for supporting Britain, as well as that of H.G. Wells, comes from private research by Michael Minnicino of Leesburg, Virginia.
    Straight, Michael, "Make This the Last War: The Future of the United Nations," George Allen & Unwin, London, 1943. The career of Michael Straight, son of the founder of Lippmann's "New Republic" is examplary of the cultivation of relations by Britain inside elite American circles during the war. Straight, raised by his mother in England, had been inducted into the secret Cambridge Apostles with Anthony Blunt and Guy Burgess, of the notorious Kim Philby spy ring. That Philby-Burgess ring, later accused of working for Soviet intelligence, in actual fact, represented British interest in creating Mackinder's new world order by feeding Soviet intelligence selected information, reports which later in fact helped create the Cold War, so essential for the Mackinder postwar order. In 1938, Straight had been told by Blunt to return to the United States, where his family connections won him an appointment to the State Department as Adviser on International Economic Affairs. See Deacon, Richard, "The Cambridge Apostles: A history of Cambridge University's elite intellectual secret society," Farrar, Straus & Giroux, New York, 1985."

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    Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn was the initial target of the Obama White House in the Russian collusion case. My take.
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    Well said mgray- I agree completely on your assessment of Flynn.

    As for Trump being the Pied Piper for the NWO . . . . that was Obama, my friends.

    I don't think that Trump is any Knight in Shining Armor. There are many red flags that cause me concern (Wilbur Ross & Steve Mnuchin to name 2), and I have considered many times that Trump is just another arm of the DS and that this is infighting amongst them.

    But what gives me pause is: If Trump was another arm of the DS, this other arm would have as much clout with the media as let's say the left arm. But it seems to me that hate is coming at Trump from every direction - constantly - never a break.

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    Does this video make sense? It seems to be reaching....


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    So ... I'm guessing you listen to Dan Bongino?
    No should I? I saw it mentioned in Wash. Examiner.
    Dan Bongino and you came to the same, detailed, conclusions ... or at least close enough that I did not notice any difference whatsoever on first reading.

    Other than that he cranks his tone of presentation up several levels above yours, it was the same story. I have been finding Dan to be the best source of information on Spygate. Dan is a former NYPD officer, and a former secret service agent who worked inside the Obama White House. He maintains some good contacts, and doesn't take B.S. for an answer.

    Give the episode in the above links a listen. No doubt you'll spot differences between the views of the two of you ... but I missed any such.

    I actually was wondering if you had listened to that episode and used it as a key source for your article.
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