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    ... and only because the boy was wearing a MAGA hat.

    Can the HATE = FEAR for (towards) a President be any worse ?

    Oh well, this is hopefully the only PA thread that is feeding this hate.


    PS.
    I won’t be surprised if the HATERS will try to link these Hebrew Israelites', with their inflammatory comments, to the President. They did that with the KKK as well.

    Perhaps THAT will be too low, even for them.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It was what I thought at first because of that, until further research.
    It was the complete opposite of what you thought of first and as you posted earlier .
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    I've watched the films more closely now and can see that the kid was possibly confused. In which case there might be only one thing worse than being stared down by a young guy and that's being drummed at. What a fiasco.

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    I don't think this thread was intended to feed hate towards Trump.
    If you read the whole thread, I think you will see that the intended purpose was to bring more rational thinking into the mix that was created by the Q thread when it was running very hot, and Trump was being portrayed in an almost worshipful manner.
    I didn't think that was being realistic, or the fact that things Trump was doing that were less than heroic were being ignored or pardoned or worse, rationalized.
    I don't think anyone on this forum thought that Hillary would have made a better POTUS--AT ALL.
    But that doesn't mean that Trump is perfect, or that his actions shouldn't be scrutinized and evaluated.

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    ... and only because the boy was wearing a MAGA hat.

    Can the HATE = FEAR for (towards) a President be any worse ?

    Oh well, this is hopefully the only PA thread that is feeding this hate.


    PS.
    I won’t be surprised if the HATERS will try to link these Hebrew Israelites', with their inflammatory comments, to the President. They did that with the KKK as well.

    Perhaps THAT will be too low, even for them.
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    Turns out the Indian lied about being a Vietnam War veteran. He never served in Vietnam. He was a refrigerator repairman stationed in California who went AWOL three times, and never left the country.

    He's also a professional victim who receives money from NGOs to stir up controversy. This isn't the first time he's been in the news claiming to be a victim. It's just that this time he was actually called out on it after video footage completely contradicted the stories he was making up about the kids.

    I don't really think it's the Indian's fault, though, because something isn't right with that guy. His forehead slopes backward at such an angle that it looks like he has a mild case of microcephaly, which obviously impacts cognitive function. That's probably why they kept him stateside during Vietnam, and also explains why he felt so comfortable lying about his service and everything that happened with those boys as if no one would ever figure it out. He's a little on the slow side, by no fault of his own. But he's still a liar.

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    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
    .....

    ... and only because the boy was wearing a MAGA hat.

    Can the HATE = FEAR for (towards) a President be any worse ?

    Oh well, this is hopefully the only PA thread that is feeding this hate.


    PS.
    I won’t be surprised if the HATERS will try to link these Hebrew Israelites', with their inflammatory comments, to the President. They did that with the KKK as well.

    Perhaps THAT will be too low, even for them.
    I think this one says it better than I did.


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    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
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    ... and only because the boy was wearing a MAGA hat.

    Can the HATE = FEAR for (towards) a President be any worse ?

    Oh well, this is hopefully the only PA thread that is feeding this hate.


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    I won’t be surprised if the HATERS will try to link these Hebrew Israelites', with their inflammatory comments, to the President. They did that with the KKK as well.

    Perhaps THAT will be too low, even for them.
    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him. Incredibly, Mr Philips never skipped a beat. I've seen this "dumb insubordination" look before. It's user is sending the message that he feels superior to the target, and daring him to react with violence.

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    There has been a long debate about what really happened in DC, and many videos posted as well.
    My conclusion after perusing most of it was that the students weren't actually misbehaving that much, but just being rowdy, especially considering how vitriolic and baiting the Black Israelites were being, and it wasn't so much that the young man was taunting the Native American elder as it was that he was simply standing his ground.
    Because it was actually the N.A. elder with the drum who walked right up the to student, not the other way around.
    The elder said he was attempting to get in the middle, between the students and the Black Israelites, to calm everyone.
    I think there was a lot of misunderstanding on the whole, and it wasn't really clear why the students joined in the drumming, but it was probably more in a spirit of fun than mocking.
    On all the videos, I never heard anyone saying "Build that Wall".
    The media was quick to blow everything up out of all proportion, with little based on reality.
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    More here showing how the media got it wrong:
    Joe Rogan on the "MAGA" Kids Controversy
    Published on Jan 21, 2019


    and here:
    MAGA vs. Native Americans Confrontation: What Really Happened?
    The Jimmy Dore Show
    Published on Jan 21, 2019


    It's good to hear Native Americans really being considered in this last discussion.
    It's also a clear example of how the lamestream media is manipulating people.
    And possibly distracting us, so there may be something nefarious going on that no one is paying much attention to.
    (The media has been covering the government shutdown quite well, so I don't think that has much to do with it.)
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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    I have usually been skeptical of various theories put forth that we are living in multiple, parallel, universes, timelines, dimensions or such.

    After reading some of the comments on this thread, I am not quite so skeptical.

    In other words, a bit less cryptically, what I saw in the videos of that event, with the drumming Native American walking up and into the face of the Catholic high school student is not reconcilable with what I take your post, and some other earlier posts on this thread, to be saying.

    If I had been that student, and of the age that he is now, and that happened to me, I can imagine that I might have a rather stupid, forced, grin on my face, covering up an inner thought of "Wtf is he (the drumming Indian) doing?"

    The situation that those Catholic students found themselves in, first with the prolonged and provocative insults from the "black muslims", and then with the drumming Indian getting in their face, was rather rude towards those students. I am impressed that that student had the discipline to just stand there, with a strained smile on his face, avoiding any responding motion, as that could have, likely would have, been (mis)construed as a threatening motion.

    So the Lying Lame Stream Media had no recourse but to try to stir up outrage over a brief, unmoving, strained smile.

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    I was taken in at first too, but I'm really glad I took a long, much closer look.
    I felt like such a jerk when I realized how unconscious my initial reaction was.
    A great object lesson for a lot of people, I imagine.....
    So I'm working now on feeling grateful instead.
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    CRAZY BLACK ISRAELITES HATE-MONGERING ON THE STREET – COMPILATION
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    1/25/19
    (Warning--extremely foul language and psychopathic behavior.)

    "The Mainstream Media has been largely silent about the group of Black Hebrew Israelites (BHI), who were engaging in their typical, confrontational, hate-filled “street ministry” in DC on January 18th. Their disgusting, racist taunts formed the backdrop of the viral video of MAGA teens from Covington Catholic High School and from everything I’ve seen of the footage, it appears that the vile attitudes of the BHI were wrongly transferred to the Kentucky kids and ascribed to the latter.

    If you don’t live in a big city, you’d likely never previously heard of the Black Hebrew Israelites, let alone seen their insane behavior, so here is a compilation I found. In this age of PC, the taunts seen here almost seem like a comedy routine and I actually began to howl with laughter, as I transcribed their surreal insults, below. If these misguided souls weren’t so serious, this might be one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

    I directed rap videos in the 1990s and some artists who I worked with back in the day espoused similar views, which are shared by members of the Nation of Islam, the Five-Percenters and related “Islamic” Black Supremacist splinter groups. The BHI believe that they are descendants of the Biblical Hebrews, whereas Africans (whom the BHI hate) are called “Hamites”, Caucasians are called “Edomites”, East Asians are “Moabites”. Non-BHI males of any race are called “niggers”, females are called “bitches”, “hos” and “freaks”, all whites are called “cave beasts” and they are “leprous”. I’m sorry, I had to laugh when I wrote that.

    This video was shot in downtown San Francisco by members of the BHI, who are equal-opportunity haters, unleashing it upon: “you stupid-ass Persian bitches,” “dumb-ass, Tonto-ass Native Americans,” “fat-ass Samoans,” “f*ckin’ Mexican faggots,” “curry-sh*tting, coolie, towel-head faggots,” “damned Aborigine-ass that be roamin’ the desert, playing the damned didgeridoo, eatin’ lizards ‘n sh*t,” “all you so-called white women, you gonna get brutally raped out here,” “little ugly cave beast,” “all you so-called white people, you the devil, alright?” “death to Gooks!” “Have your last days of enjoying America, alright? The MOSSAD’s gonna put yo ass in slavery and gonna use us to do it! You little red punks! That’s according to the Bible! There’s about to be 144,000 Nat Turners arisen up, alright? There’s gonna be killin’ white people – babies included – and any o’ you so-called black people, if you ain’t wit’ it, you gonna get yo head chopped off – wit’ yo weave on it!”

    I think humor and non-engagement are the appropriate responses to this insane anger and also an awareness and a sympathy for the fact that the trauma of 400 years of institutionalized racism is real and it’s still working itself out in the fevered minds of these people. We should not be tricked into anger at them and we should hope and pray that they may one day find peace and love.

    The Mainstream Media, on the other hand, until they completely retract and apologize for their libelous claims that have put the lives of innocent kids in danger, the same forgiveness should not be granted to them.

    The operation to smear these boys stinks to high heaven. Racial supremacist beliefs have been falsely ascribed to the Covington High School boys, who had likely never imagined that such crazies as the Black Hebrew Israelites and the outrage culture-grifter, Nathan Phillips even existed – let alone that they could ever become the innocent victims of an unconscionable and unforgivable high tech lynching that continues to be perpetrated against them by a Liberal media that will not tolerate MAGA hats.

    This is how our cold civil war is being waged – until it goes hot."
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    DANIEL ESTULIN – BACK TRUMP OR WORLD LOSES
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    ( This might go better on a different thread, but I put it here because it might also help enlighten us more as to what Trump is really doing, as opposed to what most people think he is doing, as they may not be the same thing at all... )


    "Daniel Estulin joins Greg Hunter for a blockbuster interview about the realpolitik that informs the strange behavior of politicians on the world stage.

    He reminds viewers that he spent 24 years in Russian military counterintelligence and that he’s also a Doctor of Conceptual Intelligence, trained to “create models that define the future of humanity…at least one or two generations in advance…” In short, he is not a conspiracy theorist.

    He explains that, like most of the world, the United States is controlled by the Liberal banking financiers, which is the domain of Wall Street, Washington’s bureaucracy, the intelligence agencies, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, the Rockefeller crowd, the Soroses, the Mainstream Media, the London School of Economics, the Wharton School of Business, the big Think Tanks, the big foundations, the rating agencies; in short, the people who’ve controlled the world for the past three generations, since 1944.

    All of the above are part of this Liberal banking order – not just in the US but globally. Trump’s job, as the representative of an alternative, isolationist, industrial group is to dismantle this power structure. This is not a battle between the Republicans or the Democrats…it’s against the current global financial model.

    “In 2008, the global elite circles…reached an agreement to hand over the power of the emission of the US dollar to the global elite, via the Bank for International Settlements, which is the central bank of central banks…The only thing they needed was for Obama to sign off on this deal. Nobody knows about this but Obama decided he’s not gonna do that; he’s not gonna let the global elite circles control the emission of the US dollar.”

    My own source tells me this was the moment the Bush-Clinton crime family attempted to usurp the power of the central bankers for themselves, a crime for which they will not be forgiven by Basel.

    Estulin continues, “What we’re seeing right now is the fight…for the control of emission of US dollar,” and Trump is the enemy [of the Liberal banking order]. “That’s why you have all the screaming and yelling in the media.”

    Russia is in a similar position. “Russia’s economic financial policy is written in the offices of International Monetary Fund…” Russia’s equivalent to the US Federal Reserve’s Jerome Powell is Elvira Nabiullina, the Director of the Russian Central Bank. Estulin says Nabiullina has no responsibility to Russia. “She works directly for Christine Lagarde, the General Director of International Monetary Fund…You are not allowed to make investments in rubles in Russia. You can only do it in dollars, just to give you an idea who controls Russia’s economy!

    “If Putin decided to fire [Elvira] Nabiullina…and replaced her with somebody who is a patriot, immediately, the International Monetary Fund and the ratings agencies would emit a report that would say, ‘According to our best practices and knowledge, the person who is running Russia’s Central Bank is absolutely incompetent,’ and they’d lower Russia’s credit to junk and because private corporations cannot have a higher credit rating than the government itself, every Russian company’s credit rating will be lowered to junk, which means Russian economy would collapse in a matter of hours, which is why until the Liberal banking financier global order is not dismantled, Putin has his hands tied – and the same with Trump – and that’s what we’re seeing right now, globally…

    “You have a civil war in the United States. There is the Liberal banking financiers’ United States; the parasites, who play with numbers, don’t produce anything at all and then you have the the alternative group, the people who put in Donald Trump…the isolationists and industrialists.

    Estulin says there are two different ways out of this crisis:

    “1. Global Thermonuclear War…wars write off debts and responsibilities. You have a four…quadrillion-dollar global debt…It’s a four and fifteen zeros. There’s absolutely no way you can pay that off, ever. But Wars can write that off.” In this scenario, half of the world’s population or more would be killed. China, with over a billion people would survive. Russia, the country with the biggest territory would survive but “The United States will not survive. Europe will not survive. Latin America, nobody knows where that is and Africa is what it is. So, that’s one of the ways out of the crisis. Another way out of the crisis is the change from the Atlanticism to the:

    “2. Pacific area of influence…the Rockefellers lost in 2012 against the Rothschilds. The Rockefellers are the bankers, the percentages and the Rothschilds are the changers…Changers, what does that mean? it means separating the world into regional territories…the dismantling of countries…and creating regional economic blocs…

    The Bretton-Woods global economic model is collapsing. In London, Brexit was developed to avoid being caught up in that. Estulin says, “Their plan was to create a separate economic region with the Golden Dinar for them and for the Arab world” and Israel as a nation-state was to be sacrificed. “Kissinger said it, way back in 2012 and it was published in New York Post, that Israel, in ten years was going to disappear. Jacob Rothschild, somebody who’s very well-informed said the same thing.

    “In that plan, you need to get rid of all of the leaders in the northern region of Africa. We’ve been there for 30 years; Bouteflika in Algiers, Gaddafi in Libya, Mubarak in Egypt, etc. and thus, you have the Arab Spring. The second part, you gotta get rid of Turkey, because Turkey has dibs, through the Ottoman Empire, on some of the same Arab countries that England, the British Empire wanted to incorporate into the new regions – they did that, okay because Turkey is not allowed into the European Union and a third step, again as I said, get rid of Israel by joining forces.

    “Now the whole thing was already prepared. The only thing that was missing was for Hillary Clinton to become President of United States and she was all for it – but she lost. Trump wasn’t gonna go for it and thus, the Empire created Plan B – and Plan B and I explained in my book, is Macron and France…

    “We’re seeing the end of the Bretton Woods, we’re seeing the end of the petrodollar model, because Trump was elected President and his mandate, from the people behind him was to dismantle the petrodollar; dismantle that and get rid of the World Trade Organization – and what we see Trump doing is going up against the International Monetary Fund, he’s going against World Bank, the G7. They are the enemies of Trump and of the people behind him because they represent Liberal banking financial model…

    “It has nothing to do with ideologies. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump being an unpalatable president, who’s bringing disrepute to the United States – as if the Mainstream Media ever cared about the United States as an entity. It’s about control of the emission center because the model is now dead. They need an alternative model and so they’re looking at, just to summarize, either:

    “Global thermonuclear war [or the separation of the world into economic regions] – and that’s why you see all that stuff in the Middle East again, what’s Trump doing in Afghanistan? What’s he doing in Syria? He’s done something that Putin hasn’t been able to do. He’s extricating himself out of that mess, because he understands that anytime, this thing can explode…

    “Wars write off debts and responsibilities, which is why we’re seeing all this maneuvering. We don’t know who is going to win. We don’t know the end of the story. What we do know is why all this stuff is going on…

    “The easiest thing for Trump to have done when he became President was to push the interest rates to four, five, six percent. That would have collapsed the entire global order, which are the enemies of Donald Trump but then, it’s like we have a table and you cut two legs off the table collapses but to make sure the table doesn’t collapse, you need to prop it up somehow, which means Trump would have needed to come up with an alternative model…

    “You asked me about gold. We’re looking at a changing of the guard from the Atlantic to the Pacific, from petrodollar to ounces, physical ounces of gold, which is what the Chinese have a lot of.

    So, the new economic model, again, the separation of regions, Make America Great Again is…the United States shutting the door, saying to the rest of the world, ‘Go to Hell.'”

    Greg Hunter: “Gold’s gonna be an important component of whatever world we have; gold, silver, precious metals.”

    Daniel Estulin: “It’ll be a very important component, now what needs to happen is the Chinese and the Russians can work together but not right now because today’s Russia is [dominated by the] Liberal banking financier crowd…The only way that the Russians the Chinese can actually work together if you get rid of Liberal [financiers]…”

    Greg Hunter: “What does a little guy do? What does the guy listening to this interview, saying, ‘What should I do? Do you plan on a collapse? Do you plan on a war? Do you plan on a hyperinflation? Do you plan on a new dollar?…What does the guy watching this do?

    Daniel Estulin: “One thing you need to understand is you’ve got a back Trump…our only way out of this is to make sure that Donald Trump actually stays President of the United States, because the entire welfare of Russia and everywhere else depends on the non-Liberal crowd winning.

    “Second point, make sure you have physical gold and silver. Make sure you don’t have paper gold, because when the markets go ‘poof’, that thing is going to disappear. Make sure you understand that all the noise you hear in the mainstream media, it’s what it is, it’s noise and it doesn’t matter…this latest stuff, with some kids in Catholic school or talk about some silly football game or talking about what Trump did or said, whether he picked his nose at a birthday party – it’s all nonsense – you’ve got a look at a bigger picture…

    The model which has been working since 1944, Bretton Woods; based on infinite growth is dead. Either we come up with a new model or we go to Hell.

    Greg Hunter: Daniel Estulin, the author best-selling multiple international best-selling author of his latest book, In the Shadows of a President. Daniel, thanks for coming on from Toronto, thank you so much."
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    Thanks Onawah, Great interview and certainly sheds a lot of light on what's happening world-wide.
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    "On the campaign trail, Donald Trump talked about Social Security and Medicare in every speech, promising to protect them for all cuts.

    But once he took office, Trump appointed advisers like Mick Mulvaney who are longtime advocates of Social Security and Medicare cuts. He released a budget proposal with $266 billion in Medicare cuts and $72 billion in Social Security cuts. And he stood by while Mitch McConnell demanded deep benefit cuts to pay for the massive GOP tax handout to the wealthy (even though Social Security does not add a single penny to the deficit!)

    In tonight's State of the Union, Trump did not mention Social Security or Medicare once. His silence speaks volumes."
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    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    It's odd to me that even after the MSM narrative on this fell apart, and defamation lawsuits have already been launched, with retractions being made left and right, you still somehow think that standing still and smiling is "provocative behavior" that makes the lying professional victim artist a real victim.

    As usual, feelings count more than facts.

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    “The media was quite obviously in the wrong as they helped perpetuate the false reports about the Covington Catholic boys which resulted in harassment and death threats, not to mention unjustifiable smears of their reputations. The fact that the Sandmann family has hired a top attorney with a history of successful suits against the media would seem to suggest that they intend to seek retribution against the media that sought to destroy them.”

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    It's NOT about hating the MAGA hats. It's about calling out the young man wearing it for his provocative behaviour. It's as plain as the smirk on his face that he was targeting the drummer and intending to intimidate him.
    It's odd to me that even after the MSM narrative on this fell apart, and defamation lawsuits have already been launched, with retractions being made left and right, you still somehow think that standing still and smiling is "provocative behavior" that makes the lying professional victim artist a real victim.

    As usual, feelings count more than facts.

    Dear "Voice ... "

    I’d like to explain what I find wrong with the media coverage of the “standoff”. It’s not that the media were wrong in what they showed. Where they erred was in not showing any of the original confrontations between the Covington students and the group of black protesters who had been hurling abuse at the white students only a few minutes before the video started. Maybe they could have found video on someone’s cel phone regarding this disturbing verbal assault, and showed it along with the video footage that they based their story on. But they did not, for whatever reason. If they had, the media would have supplied some inkling of the thinking of the Covington students i.e. that they had been insulted and intimidated by a hostile group. As such, I think that their disrespectful and provocative reactions to the native elders would have been given an understandable context, and could be seen for what it was: disdainful payback to an inferior group that would not fight back. The man banging the drum was an easy target for their intimidation, and by confronting him they could salvage some of their pride.

    As for the claim that the drummer had approached the group of boys and was standing in front of, that part may have been true, if the direction of the boys’ path had been on the other side of Phillips, the drummer. But that does not appear to be the case.

    What is evident, however, is that the celebrated (at least by the Covington crowd) boy who is seen having a showdown with the native drummer is there by choice. He was not suddenly surprised by the approach of the drummer, nor was his path blocked, except directly to his front, where the drummer was standing. Sandmann took up the position in front of the drummer, after having walked some distance through the crowd in order to face the man. There are wide spaces to his left and right, and, initially at least, two to three body widths of space behind him. He had plenty of wide open options for movement. If anything, it was he who was blocking the path of the Phillips.

    Here’s a link to the “entire” video, as later posted:

    https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181931...students-video

    In it, it’s easy to see that Sandmann first appears 9 seconds in, standing far back from the front, on the steps. In order to get in front of Phillips, he would have had to walk 5 or 6 steps through the crowd. As the video begins, the crowd is already mocking the native presence with pseudo chants, crying out, and performing the insulting “tomahawk chop”. The kids are clearly trying to intimidate the native protesters; during a pan across them, one of the students has his head shoved from behind by one of his classmates, in an effort to force contact between the boy and the drummer. During a pan back to the left, at 25 seconds, Sandmann is still visible on the steps in his original spot. The panning continues back to the right, and when it pans left again, Sandmann can now be seen in his chosen spot, at the 41 second mark. This is a full 15 seconds and 5 paces from his original location in the video. The drummer, on the other hand, has stopped moving forward, and has been rooted to the spot when Sandmann approaches him.

    Sandmann’s maneuvering into place in front of the drummer was calculated to be in the best place possible for demonstrating to his buddies that he was a “big man”. As for demonstrating his feelings to the native protesters, it was his rarely broken smirk that told the tale.

    So, to sum up, the media erred in not telling the whole tale. What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker. The media commentary that ensued may have been excessive, but that will be very hard to prove in a court of law. All one has to do is watch the video.

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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    As you likely know by now, some of us disagree with the view you present, through your particular choice of complimentary or pejorative adjectives.
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    What they got right, though, was in portraying the disrespectful behaviour of a gang of white boys toward a native American peacemaker.
    As you likely know by now, some of us disagree with the view you present, through your particular choice of complimentary or pejorative adjectives.
    Hmmm. Could you give me an example or two?

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