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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Mainstream Attacks Natural Cures for Coronavirus so Get Your Vitamin C Now!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This video is becoming popular

    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    YOU CAN'T SUE A VIRUS

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    I read some stuff early in this manufactured event then stopped reading anything, the papers, the pundits, nothing... and don't want to debate any of it.

    Just want to stay outside the bubble and put my cards on the table for the record.

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    Hey, any dutiful repeaters.... x number cases were just confirmed in x?

    How did you confirm that before repeating what the robots said?

    I haven't bought into or repeated one fear tactic of this supposedly contagious thingie or let it change me inside at all.

    Ya, I've picked up bits and pieces of 'reports' of the numbers of infected 'discovered today' and 'dead', the new 'appearances' in other cities/countries, the quarantined, the incubation time, blah blah blah....

    But all I see are millions of compliant ants at their desktops, phones or TV who are completely in denial that they have zero REAL evidence for any of the reports of the actual existence of this 'virus' AT ALL or ANY verification whatsoever of any sick or dead from IT.

    Mandatory quarantines may be verifiable - BUT NOTHING ELSE IS!! Everything else is a 'story' being fed to repeaters... and the repeaters repeating...., robots to parrots to robots to parrots to.....



    What does that leave? - A GIGANTIC POINTLESS MASS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT / possibly TRIAL RUN... THAT SMELLS JUST LIKE THE WEEKLONG POINTLESS POWER CUTOFF EXPERIMENT DONE TO MILLIONS IN THE ENTIRE BAY AREA OF CALIFORNIA LAST YEAR.

    I STRONGLY suspect this is another MASS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT to work out the bugs of one of the mass scale manipulation plans. To me it's being rolled out by the same perps as all the human caused/extremely destructive events suddenly escalating into new extremes around the world the last few years. I guess it was time for one of the worldwide experiments.

    I STRONGLY suspect this and rest of these obviously long planned agendas rolling out are connected - the worldwide destructive weather warfare, the power cutoffs, the crop annihilations, the fires/floods, millions displaced/losing everything, the insect plagues, everything that's being blamed on 'climate change'.... and more. Average people are being blindsided and are more and more collectively oblivious to the others being blindsided because everyone is now deliberately news isolated from each other (without great extra search effort).

    Except for this one... suddenly everyone is being told what is supposedly happening to everyone else everywhere.

    I'm all for a little prepping and staying ahead of shelf emptying and mass stupidity, but I've learned there likely isn't even a contagious anything. Who knew - it took me until recently to learn that even many 'diseases' and/or thingies called viruses aren't even close to what we've been led to believe they are our whole lives... all of them. Do you even know that everything the medical industry calls a virus is not even alive like a bacteria? (the inert thingie needs to be surrounded by a live 'envelope' if I'm saying it right). There is WAY more to this subject to learn, and the narrative being fed for years about viruses is very misleading.

    But what a great platform this could be for testing technologies galore with a nice convenient blame and no perps to sue. I strongly suspect this experiment is not ONE thing and has ZERO 'contagiousness'.

    Ya, it's foreboding as hell to think of all the deliberate catastrophe making methods now on all our doorsteps. You bet I'm on alert - but hovering over and above the frantic ants, ignoring all repeating and buying NOTHING being said by media FACE VALUE.

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    "You can't sue a virus" David Parker, author of '700+ page What Really Makes You Ill", just released Dec. 2019.

    "...There is no original scientific evidence that any particles classified as a virus are the cause of any disease. The problem lies with the use of the term 'virus' - Latin for poison - and the assumption that it refers to a pathogenic microorganism.
    The definition of 'germ' means a microorganism. There are some basic functions an 'entity' must exhibit in order for it to be defined as 'living'. Interestingly, even the establishment definition of a virus does not refer to it as an 'organism' which suggests a virus is not considered to be alive. Viruses are not alive since outside of living cells they do nothing, ever. Viruses require the metabolism of a live cell because they lack the requisites to generate their own. Metabolism is the incessant chemistry of self-maintenance. Viruses lack this...."


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    My money is on that this will all have long passed by the Summer Olympics in China.

    Do you really believe the big corps want all your lives grinding to a halt and suddenly have all their money guzzling traps clamped shut and not get any of your slavery, your taxes, your purchases of their fragile stockpiles of autos, food, electronics, entertainment gizmos that need to keep moving... etc etc etc... Where's any benefit to who??

    I see this as a 'future compliance' fear-seed planting like the mass compliance fear-seeding the million people power outage/fire scare was.

    If you're a repeater, I know it's scary to stop being scared, but give it a try, the movie you can see from up here isn't so good, but the fresh air is MUCH nicer.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The Olympics are scheduled for Japan, not China.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Coronavirus and discussion with Joachim Gerlach (3CL and Cytokine Storms) by Dr Paul Cottrell





    From the 23rd

    Quote TONS OF VITAMIN C TO WUHAN
    China Using Vitamin C Against COVID
    by Andrew W. Saul, Editor-in-Chief
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service


    (OMNS February 23, 2020) We can all agree that 50 tons of vitamin C pretty much qualifies as a megadose. We can also likely agree that trucking 50 tons of vitamin C, straight into Wuhan, full in the face of the COVID-19 epidemic, qualifies as news.

    The news media are not reporting this, or any other, significantly positive megavitamin news.
    in comments Osha root mentioned

    Quote Osha root is a Rocky Mountain herb and has been used by the Native Americans for treating respiratory infections and conditions of the digestive system. Today the herb is used in alternative medicine for treating colds and symptoms of viral infections. Osha root extract also induces sweating, and for fevers that will not go away, it works to kick out viral infections before they can become full-blown. It is known for its diuretic action and may help to relieve urinary problems such as stones and excess retained water. Like other bitter herbs, Osha stimulates appetite "feeds a cold".

    Many people struggle daily with mucus and congestion problems, and it is a wonder that the benefits of Osha root tinctures are not more well-known. The herb can help to clear mucus from the sinuses and lungs, thereby helping to relieve congestion and make breathing much easier. It contains a number of volatile oils, including camphor, essential oils, saponins, terpenes, ferulic acid, phytosterols and lactone glycoside. It has been found to have the ability to elevate body temperature and induce sweating. It is used for such conditions as head colds with dry or wet cough, irritating coughs, sore throats, bronchial infections, early stages of tonsillitis, pneumatic complaints and pharyngitis. Also helpful in asthma to keep the lungs clear and the bronchial dilated. Combined with Echinacea against leukocytosis, an increase in white blood cells, it can be extremely beneficial as a powerful antiviral, and antibacterial herb, but mild for the other body systems.

    It has been used internally in the treatment of digestive complaints, painful menstruation, and retained placenta. It has also been used to in cases of TB and headaches. An infusion of the roots is used externally to treat body aches. It aches like a mild anesthetic and numbs the area to reduce toothache pain.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    A good friend who is currently going to medical school recommended that I watch the following Youtube video recorded by pulmonologist Dr Mike Hansen. He only addresses the medical aspects of the Covid-19.

    In this video he discusses several drugs such as Remdesivir(HIV drug), Lopinavir & Ritonavir, Chloroquine (anti-malarial drug), and Favilavir that are currently undegoing trials in China. China has or is trying to patent the Remdesivir for treating the Covid-19.

    Also discussed are Telmisartan and Losartan which are normally used to treats blood pressure issue. These drugs constricts the blood vessels to raise the blood pressure. These two drugs are ACE inhibitors which blocks the Coronavirus from locking onto the ACE receptors in the body.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The coronavirus vaccine as a source of dangerous invasion
    by Jon Rappoport
    February 27, 2020
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...rous-invasion/

    "This article is based on the research of Annie Logical. Her far-reaching, many-branched piece, “Corona Virus Fakery And The Link To 5G Testing,” can be found at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ .

    In prior pieces, I documented two of the experimental technologies that may be unleashed on the public, in the rush to develop a coronavirus vaccine.

    DNA vaccines inject synthesized genes. The recipient’s genetic makeup is altered PERMANENTLY in unknown ways. RNA vaccines carry the potential to trigger autoimmune reactions: the body attacks aspects of itself.

    As if that weren’t enough, there is another element deployed in DNA vaccines. It’s called electroporation.

    An online dictionary provides a definition: “the action or process of introducing DNA or chromosomes into bacteria or other cells [including human cells] using a pulse of electricity to briefly open the pores in the cell membranes.”

    A pioneer in this field is Dr. David Weiner. He is the co-founder of a San Diego company, Inovio Pharmaceuticals.

    NBC San Diego, January 25, 2020: “A San Diego biotech company just received a $9 million grant to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus. Inovio Pharmaceuticals received a grant from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).”

    If Inovio wins a license to sell their version of a DNA coronavirus vaccine, electroporation will undoubtedly be brought along as part of the technology.

    Here is an excerpt from an article, “What you always needed to know about electroporation DNA vaccines,” published in the journal, Human Vaccines and Immunotherapeutics, November 1, 2012: “…the cell membrane also needs to be in a permeabilized [“opened”] state in order to allow passage of the DNA molecule…[Electric] Pulses may be optimized to achieve either a greater degree of permeability of the cell membrane (for passive diffusion of drugs), or a greater degree of electrophoretic effect. As mentioned below, there are various ways to go about this, but generally a series of short high voltage pulses (e.g., 8 pulses of 0.1 ms at 1,000 V/cm voltage to electrode distance) is used for drug delivery, and a combination involving long low voltage pulses is used for DNA transfer [into human cells] (e.g., 1 pulse of 0.1 ms, 800 V/cm and 1 long pulse of 400 ms 80 V/cm).”

    In a nutshell, this means that human cells, whose membranes are “too tight” to allow DNA to be injected into them, will be “opened up” by electric pulses, in order to deliver the new type of vaccine.

    Apparently, it doesn’t occur to the researchers that human cells may be as “tight” as they are for a reason; and forcing them open with electric pulses, in order to inject DNA, could have unforeseen effects.

    Electroporation isn’t the same kind of invasive action as, say, cutting into flesh to remove a bullet, during emergency surgery. The DNA vaccines, along with electric pulses, would be given to healthy people.

    But as long as we think of ourselves as guinea pigs, willing to sit still for all sorts of medical experiments, what difference does it make? Genetic-altering vaccines, the body attacking itself, electroporation—if we surrender to the experts, and their assurances, I’m sure everything will be all right.

    Right?

    “Here’s what we’re doing. It’s quite innovative. You see, with electric pulses, we briefly open up cells and inject DNA, synthesized genetic material, into them. Ordinarily, the cells would reject such an intrusion, but we get around that. Once the genetic material is inside cells, it mimics a virus, and the immune system responds, as if this were an actual viral disease. That’s the vaccine effect. It’s wonderful. Safe. Nothing dangerous could happen…” "

    (I urge everyone to read the article J.R. is recommending at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ It is very long, with lots of hyperlinks, but necessary reading. )
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    Oh my... Appears that this scientist is bringing back the "panspermia" theory.

    "British scientist says a fragment of comet caused the virus
    Cambridge astrobiologist Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe claims that the COVID-19 virus, that's on its peak, may additionally have been resulting from a fragment of a comet that exploded in a brief flash in North-East China in October 2019.

    The sudden outbreak of a new coronavirus, in Wickramasinghe's perspective, is very probable to have a space connection. He brought the strong localization of the virus inside China is the most brilliant aspect of the disease.

    "[It's probable] that this [comet has embedded an] infective [COVID-19] virus debris that lived in the incandescent meteor," Wickramasinghe said. The scientist took into consideration the seemingly outrageous possibility that masses of trillions of infective viral debris have been then released embedded within the shape of sweet carbonaceous dust.

    Infectious agents, according to Wickramasinghe, are deemed to be widely wide-spread in the area, which might be carried on comets and may fall toward Earth via the troposphere. "These, we believe, can and have inside the past long gone on to result in human disease epidemics," he said.
    Wickramasinghe's argument not new
    This is not the first time that Dr. Wickramasinghe argues that a plague has its origin in the stars. He previously stated that During the 1918 flu epidemic, some varieties of polio, mad cow disease, and SARS arrived on Earth as a part of meteorites or clouds of comet dust.

    Back when Dr. Wickramasinghe's was arguing that SARS was from space, a rival expert rebuffed his theories, underscoring that SARS is a coronavirus. The opposing expert said no such virus-or for that matter, any RNA virus-unlike bacteria, is known to be resistant to the kind of radiation present in space.

    It is also said that Dr. Wickramasinghe's theories had been almost completely ruled out through the scientific network in general.

    Dr. Wickramasinghe's concept, of course, is very just like the plot of the 1971 film and the 2008 miniseries. Andromeda strain, both primarily based at the 1969 novel by Michael Crichton. That ends while scientists finish that they want to ship the virus to publish it."
    Are Aliens Behind the First US Coronavirus Confirmed Case of Unknown Origin? A Scientist Claim It's Possible!
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I will already be harnessing my power of BELIEF that I can have a relationship with viruses, bacteria, fungus and whatever and create a symbiotic 'live with them all" and neutralize toxicity state of my organism.
    four years ago, I was (telepathically) oriented to cultivate herbs, experiencing a kind of friendship while caring the plants, so the plants will produce by symbiosis more or less substances to care my health, specifically the immune system through polyphenols, flavonoids, etc.

    the evolutionary nature of the living things is inherently symbiotic -- that was the lesson to experience.

    I had to learn how to make medicines to take care of the plants, one based on sulfur with calcium and magnesium carbonate, and other based on coconut soap with refined oil, the same ones used in moisturizing creams.

    surprisingly, I found that these remedies to spray plants from harmful fungi and bacteria, absolutely also serve to protect the human body to preserve the skin, which in itself plays a fundamental role in the immune system (by supplying vitamins D and K).

    I still haven't learned anything about viruses, but for now I keep thinking that with a good immune system, the virus that comes in I can fix it, even if I have to spend a few days resting (quarantined)

    symbiosis works!!
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    Raising the question if Chinese doctors and medical personnel died from the coronavirus or not, one should really know if these persons were vaccinated under the new mandatory vaccination program in China. Usually those professionals are the first to participate without much questioning in such programs. There is an unsubstantiated rumor on the internet that elements in such vaccines could be used for remote control and make persons literally drop dead (like has been happening). China has been the major playground of the globalists for the most advanced technologies (refer their appalling social credit system) and we do not know how far they have been with experimenting and implementing.

    China: Vaccine Law Passed

    (Aug. 27, 2019) On June 29, 2019, the National People’s Congress Standing Committee of the People’s Republic of China (PRC or China) adopted the PRC Law on Vaccine Administration (Vaccine Law). The official Xinhua news agency states that the Law provides for the “strictest” vaccine management with tough penalties in order to ensure the country’s vaccine safety.

    https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news...nFxwilaQ63htik

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    And you be well too, Philippe.
    Agreed, new questions need to be examined
    ...such as how is 5G affecting us and the ever-increasing number of frequency-emitting satellites, towers and devices
    ...how are the NEW components of ALL the accumulated toxic load we are all continually being exposed combining in new and unpredictable ways to affect us NOW, differently than they have been in the past
    .. are there new, secret frequencies and toxins that are adding new factors to the equation
    ...why trust the mainstream media as the source of information, when even sources like Infowars and NaturalNews are suspect?
    If more people were examining what is really known about viruses, I'm sure a lot of this hoopla would simply be seen for what it probably is--that is, irrelevant, misleading fear porn..
    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    Be well dear Natalie. I am not going to be fanatical about what I wrote. For sure so much lies have been created around viruses and vaccines for ugly purposes. And indeed many humans die from the simple flu and other causes. But there exist also the phenomenon of crossing a thin line where all accumulated and very true experience becomes a belief that is than continued notwithstanding new question marks..
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
    There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
    And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
    But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria..
    Quote Posted by Philippe (here)
    This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    #covid2019 Time 2 don the 'doggy lampshades' folks.... it'll stop U self infecting via eye/nose/mouth rubbing & , when 2 wearers meet, maintain the 6ft 'safe space'... 4 the 'fashion conscious' watch a few Queenie 'Bladders' (esp. Lord Flashheart......) to get a few tips?

    Now wash your hands!!!

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This may be worth noting. There's a video in the article with a lot of clinical information that I'm unable to extract.

    My own comment: I do think we may be in trouble here, especially if the virus is mutating — which a number of informed observers now suspect considering the apparently changed behavior of the virus in Iran and Italy.

    As a separate comment, there's now a case (from Italy) in Nigeria, the first in sub-Saharan Africa. The chances of containing it there are near to zero, as they are in South America following the first reported case in Brazil a couple of days ago.
    Study: Coronavirus More Deadly Than SARS
    27 Feb, 2020

    In a new clinical study published in the medical platform Med archive, which publishes papers that have not been peer-reviewed yet, a team of doctors in China studied 214 coronavirus patients in three different hospitals. The study concluded that the novel coronavirus could infect the nervous system, the respiratory system, and skeletal muscle. This makes the novel coronavirus much more dangerous than SARS.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    From https://theepochtimes.com/interview-...n_3253249.html

    My own comment (while this may seem obvious to anyone who's been following the situation closely!): No way is this contained in China. Not even close.

    And given the degree to which the Chinese authorities seemed to know very clearly at an early stage how dangerous this is (and also that it was airborne), all the graphs suggest that where the rest of the world is at now is where China was at just a few weeks ago.

    The Chinese haven't been able to contain this, whatever they tried to do. The rest of the world, with a far softer and less decisive approach, has no chance.

    As I've stated several times here, everyone reading this will be fine. Simply because you all know how to take good care of yourselves and your families.

    The knock-on effects we may experience are likely to be social and economic, but it has to be possible they may be something many haven't seen in our lifetime. This is my main interest, and why I'm tracking this so very closely.

    I'm not being a fear-monger here. Just a mathematician.
    Interview With a Beijing Doctor: the True Situation
    28 Feb, 2020

    Despite efforts by top communist officials to protect Beijing from the Coronavirus outbreak at all cost, COVID-19 is rapidly spreading throughout the city, and a number of hospitals located in the Xicheng District are treating people who have become infected through person-to-person transmission. The Xicheng District is home to the Zhongnanhai compound that houses the offices of top Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials.

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    I never intend any harm to anyone, but one could be forgiven for thinking this may be karma at work.
    Virus cluster at ‘work unit’ believed to be China’s cybersecurity agency
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    A cluster of virus cases has been identified at a “work unit” located at the same address as China’s cybersecurity agency.
    • Health official says 178 people have been quarantined and are under observation, with 11 of them testing positive
    • Cleaner from a property management firm that provides services to the unit thought to have been first case
    China’s cybersecurity agency is believed to be the latest place in Beijing to be hit by an outbreak of the deadly coronavirus that was first reported in Wuhan and has spread around the world.

    Pang Xinghuo, deputy director of the Beijing Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, on Thursday said a cluster of infections had been identified at a “work unit” in the Chinese capital early this week.

    While Pang did not name the work unit, she did give its location – at the same address as the National Computer Network and Information Security Management Centre, China’s top cybersecurity agency. The centre operates under the internet watchdog, the Cyberspace Administration of China.

    Pang said 178 people from the affected work unit had been isolated for medical observation, including 11 who had tested positive for the coronavirus.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The Chinese haven't been able to contain this, whatever they tried to do. The rest of the world, with a far softer and less decisive approach, has no chance.
    From this very useful running update page, recent developments just in the last 13 hours. Times are GMT. My own emphases in red for important cases.

    28 February (today)
    • 13:25: 6 new cases in Spain. (Source)
    • 13:20: First case in Mexico. Patient in Mexico City. (Source)
    • 13:02: 1 new death in Japan. The man, a British citizen, was a passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
    • 09:22: 1 new death in Japan. The woman, a Japanese citizen in her 70s, was a passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
    • 08:44: 1 new case in Spain. First in Aragon. (Source)
    • 08:44: 1 new case in Israel. (Source)
    • 08:31: 1 new case in France. First in Nice. (Source)
    • 08:26: 1 new case in Greece. (Source)
    • 08:20: 12 new cases in Hokkaido, Japan. (Source)
    • 08:05: 2 new cases in Kuwait. (Source)
    • 08:01: 2 new cases in Croatia. (Source)
    • 08:00: 315 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
    • 07:44: 2 new cases in Malaysia. (Source)
    • 07:18: 2 new cases in France. (Source)
    • 07:06: 1 new death in Japan. (Source)
    • 06:47: 2 new cases in Taiwan. (Source)
    • 05:14: First case in Belarus. (Source)
    • 04:37: First case in New Zealand. (Source)
    • 04:35: 1 new case in Western Australia. Former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
    • 02:35: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source)
    • 01:46: First case in Lithuania. (Source 1, Source 2)
    • 01:35: 1 new case in Canada. First in Quebec. (Source)
    • 01:02: 256 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
    • 00:43: First case in Nigeria. (Source)
    • 00:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 327 new cases and 44 new deaths across the mainland, including 318 new cases and 41 new deaths in Hubei province. The total increased by 310 new cases and 44 new deaths. (Source)

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    Where is Q on COVID-19?
    What a good question. (A purely rhetorical one on this thread! NOT to be discussed here, please. The main Qanon thread is the place for that.)

    The relevance is the shambles and chaos the US response is in, whatever any officials (including the President) might maintain entirely for PR purposes. At some point, the numbers in the US will grow rapidly, and there's no way the information will be contained, let alone the virus itself.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)

    (I urge everyone to read the article J.R. is recommending at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ It is very long, with lots of hyperlinks, but necessary reading. )
    This has now been placed in the library for digestion, for anyone interested. As onawah has pointed out, above, it is very long (goes to 41 pages as a consequence of its layout ) and covers quite a bit of ground.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Further summary comments from myself as of this morning US time. (No, I'm not going to start a YouTube daily update!)
    • The virus may be mutating. The outbreaks in Iran and Italy do suggest the possibility of a more aggressive, virulent strain. Chris Martenson, a PhD toxicologist, is calling for this to be gene-sequenced soonest, though I'd be confident this is already being done. (Martenson's daily updates are here, the best on the net.)
    • If it is mutating, this will be like trying to hit a moving target from a vaccine-creation point of view. No standard vaccines may be possible.
    • I'm concerned about the reliability of testing. There's plenty of circumstantial, statistical evidence (and a number of well-recorded cases) to suggest that there are MANY false negatives. (I strongly suspect the patient in Ecuador a month ago, who came from China and soon after died of multiple organ failure, and who the CDC said did not have the virus, was a false negative.)
    • It's bewildering that many authorities in different countries do NOT seem to be aware of all the formally reported articles in medical literature about incubation periods and asymptomatic transmissiveness. Despite good intentions or strong words (often for PR purposes), containment attempts outside of China are often weak, half-hearted, indecisive, uncoordinated, and/or incompetent. And evidently ineffective. The response in the US should be embarrassing to the White House (and may yet prove to be).
    • Checks at airports or checkpoints using 'temperature guns' are of almost no use or value at all. That worked with SARS, but not with this thing.
    • It's not contained in China — not at all.
    • Many who've not lived or traveled in Europe may not understand that borders can NOT be closed. It's just impossible. You can cross freely from any country into another in hundreds of ways, without ever stopping, just like US state borders. (Quarantining a small town or city is much easier. But travel between countries by road, no.)
    • The virus is now in Africa (Egypt, Algeria, Nigeria) and Latin America (Brazil, Mexico). It can't be contained in either continent. It's just impossible, too. (And there's no 5G there. 5G symptoms, which I'm sure are 100% real and potentially serious, can't themselves be transmitted from person to person.)
    • The graphs of growth outside China are MORE than exponential. (A technical issue! And it barely matters. But to see this, look at the log graphs, and even they're gradually climbing. A log graph of an exact exponential curve is a straight line.)
    • It's already a pandemic by all the formally stated criteria.
    • The stock markets will continue to fall out the sky. Where that domino chain will go, heaven knows. (Not me! ) Supply chains of just about everything not locally grown or made will be affected, or in some cases just come to a halt.
    • I'll say this once again, if I may! Everyone reading this will be fine. Simply because you all know how to take good care of yourselves and your families. The knock-on effects we may experience are likely to be social and economic, but it has to be possible they may be something many haven't seen in our lifetime. This is my main interest, and why I'm tracking this so very closely.
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    One of the main ways the Spanish Flu was stopped was simply self-isolation, just stop travelling, stop visiting other people, commerce carefully, avoid congregating.... apparently San Francisco was the only successful town to avoid mass deaths due to this stringent and draconian observance. A lot of you can easily do this, but for some of us in denser cities and urban environments - it's much harder.

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