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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    Two of my siblings are making major changes to how they raise and educate their children after this lock down. They discovered the crap education and learning techniques for math and all that has been going on in the school systems during this and both have yanked their children from the school systems and are now home schooling. They are appalled at the goings on in education in this country. I don't have details on it but I know they've done it and that they have no intention of letting their children back into public schools in WV.
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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    India is drooling to relocate a bunch of manufacturing from China.

    Well, it is the same as how these southern states were carpetbagged. Cheap labor, tax breaks, and easing of other restrictions.

    Concurrently, Indian border guards attacked the Chinese at Naku La.

    That would be a major change, if a whole bunch of manufacturing packed up and moved. It would be an even bigger change if those two quit fighting over some glaciers and sand. But the problems arise from the British Invasion of Tibet. They were afraid of it becoming friends with Russia. At the time, 1904, the Chinese believed they owned Tibet, and that any treaties it made were invalid. India supported Tibetan independence, and when the Chinese invaded Tibet, they occupied the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh in 1962. China, India, and Tibet all have their own version of who is what and where the border should be. Tibet believes they owned the area around Tawang and it was not a part of British India; India seized it when China took over Tibet. But instead of fighting in AP nowadays, they do it at the desolate passes.

    The situation is considered the end of the old version of the Great Game, since the British were satisfied that Russia was not there. After that it turned to oil and Mosul, Iraq.

    India needs to find a way to lift millions out of destitution without drowning in pollution. They may get at least something out of this.

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    There is a delicious irony in the current test environment rolling out of the UK NHSX contact tracing application happening on the Isle of Wight at the moment - that's David Icke's place of residence. I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that that is one household that won't be adopting it.

    In any case take-up is likely to be traditionally very low despite how the government will inevitably spin its "success" - 57% of over 55s in the UK do not own a smartphone. With a median age of 46 the Isle of Wight population is a little more mature demographically than other areas of the UK. And, in any case, if some are identifying as a Jedi Knight which certainly appears to be the case, then good luck trying to foister a track-and-trace application there.

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    Looked at more intuitively of course, and a track record that would support that, it's a safe assumption that the very notion of track-and-trace is just a means for mine sweeping yet more personal and highly sensitive personal information.

    Interestingly in more technologically savvy (sic) nations, in this instance Singapore and South Korea, nations well used to technological surveillance by its State, citizens are devising more imaginative ways to avoid what has also come to be known as syndrome surveillance or syndromic surveillance.

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    Track and trace or duck and dive – Covid19 surveillance apps
    [Adoption rates]"In practice, it will only work if at least 80% of people get the app onto their mobile. The evidence for such enthusiasm is poor: Singapore, which deployed this technique in an app called Trace Together early on in the pandemic, had only 13% of adoption rate. This is surprisingly low, for a country where surveillance is prevalent and the population has been trained to accept it without objections."
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    Covid19 has brought us pain and suffering but also a huge number of new words and phrases. One of them is Syndromic Surveillance. It’s a new one for me, although this term has been around for a few years now, as bio-warfare anti-terror preparedness tech kit launched it the wake of 9/11. Recent events have put it under the spotlight once again. The term refers to methods relying on detection of individual and community health indicators that are noticeable before confirmed GP diagnoses are made. The practice of electronically monitoring and reporting real-time medical data to proactively identify unusual disease patterns, right off the start has hit the conflict between public health and personal privacy. Originally developed for detection of covert bioterrorist attack, it could be used against anthrax (ncbi.nim.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC353021/, detecting influenza like illness as an early warning.

    Inevitably, syndromic surveillance is now making its way rapidly into our everyday language during Corona time. We want to make the invisible visible, finding ways to force the virus the surface, to show us it’s deadly footprint. Syndromic Surveillance is being deployed in the fight against coronavirus using Google-Apple (and other) combined technical super-surveillance machinery, aggregating geolocation data from mobile phones, cell towers, CCTV and other currently existing spy tech.

    The need to use syndromic surveillance to detect movements and track-and-trace to log contacts of infected individuals is legitimate as we need all hands to the deck on this biggest health crisis in over a hundred years. Governments are scrambling to find weapons that can speed up the ability to open our economies. It is a race against time and no doubt our individual privacy will be pitted against our ability to get people and society back to work.

    A number of countries like Singapore and South Korea have already introduced some format of syndromic surveillance to map the spread of the virus and monitor ‘social distancing’. Google and Apple have already had the bright idea of developing ‘track-and-trace’ apps where governments would not have access to specific individual’s locations.

    Both companies insist that the user will be required to opt-in and data would be held only till the end of the quarantine period, something hard to take at face value after Google Health’s recent record of illegally obtaining real-time medical admissions data from UK top hospitals in 2015.

    Facebook is already providing health researchers and non-government organisations in some countries with anonymised data to help disease prevention efforts, so expanding this monitoring to Covid-19 would be a quick win according to the company.

    There are 6 problems to examine before we lurch into tech-led-saviour-miracle-cures territory.

    1/ Adoption Rates

    The first is adoption rates challenge. Since Apple, Google and governments seem to insist this will be an opt-in tool, we need to understand how many people are likely to download the apps.

    In practice, it will only work if at least 80% of people get the app onto their mobile.

    The evidence for such enthusiasm is poor: Singapore, which deployed this technique in an app called Trace Together early on in the pandemic, had only [a] 13% [of] adoption rate. This is surprisingly low, for a country where surveillance is prevalent and the population has been trained to accept it without objections.

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    The likelihood of this download by privacy-sensitive Europeans or Americans must be lower than Singaporeans. With such big gaps in data, even predictive analytics are going to be worthless.

    2/ Accessibility
    The second issue is accessibility. Even in UK, a fairly pro-mobile country, 96% of under 24s are glued to their mobiles 24/7. However, as noted by Statista, only 57% of over 55 year olds have smartphone phones and even those are mainly used for phone calls. Of course the government could make mobile phone ownership mandatory, issuing Free Phone For All Corbyn-like directive, forcing mobile phone providers to supply the 43% of 55 year olds who don’t have a phone to acquire one. But that will take a long time, plus add time required to teach the newbies how to use it.

    To make matters worse, of the people in the 55+ category, the portion of them who actually have mobile phones and then proactively download apps is 39% (this is US data, with a lot lower numbers for UK). Covid19 strikes older people with higher frequency and worse mortality, so it hardly makes sense to latch on to the mobile app-based tool that only young, relatively Covid-19-proof people are going to download.

    3/ Lack of precision
    Third problem is a technical issue as telecommunication firms have cell towers data and are happy to give it to the government, but those give highly imprecise data. The granularity would not be good enough to determine precise location if the person was staying in the house or stepped out to the other site of the street and out of their allocated quarantine zone. It tends to be accurate within a street or a block, ¾ of square mile but not much more than that.

    Using Bluetooth is not plain sailing either, as it will send a ping regardless if the person is half a meter or 10 meters apart from another phone. It is all very well to use geolocation for an overview of population movements, something that we have used extensively for footfall research for High Street Revival projects, but in practice, for precise tracking it would create far too many false positives to be very useful.

    4/ Battery limitations
    Forth issue is battery time – we struggle with it anyway, with my Airplane Mode on as a default to prevent getting stuck. Bluetooth, despite not as bad battery-wise as some people think, its still is a power sapping tool. It would be quite a commitment for the general public to have it on all the time, particularly as it would have to work many times harder, passing by other devices with newly added Bluetooth on. We could learn to manage our batteries better, but it would be a behaviour change for many as most of us are already struggling to get through the day on a single charge.

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    Even if Bluetooth On was made mandatory by the government, the reality is that the phones will run out of juice half-way through the day, rendering it useless for any comprehensive syndromic surveillance as people tend to move around in the evenings after work, by which time your phone would be dead unless everyone gets a free monster portable charger (a good idea but somewhat unlikely).

    5/ Cybersecurity
    The fifith issue is the problem of cybersecurity if the phone is being used for work as Bluetooth is not secure. Bluejacking, bluesnafring or bluebugging are daily threats to all of us who use smartphones for business.

    Corporates don’t even like Zoom videoconferencing and their invasive recording habits, so they would not take well to the company phone being tracked, with the risk of cybersecurity if the data leaks or falls into competitor’s hands. In reality, we would have to carry two phones, one for work and one personal with the Track-And-Trace app on, which would cut the acceptance rate by half amongst professionals.

    6/ Avoiding testing
    Last, but most important issue is the perceived negative risk by the individual tested and being tracked and therefore their willingness to download the up. South Korea used a combination of cell-phone location data, CCTV and credit -card records to monitor people’s movements. When a person tested as positive, a whole haul of data was released including name, address, gender, credit card history and a full log of goings and comings from local shops. Even visiting a toilet or a love motel room is being noted, as well as extra visual information, for example if the person wore a mask. This level of details led of course to a rise in ‘armchair detectives’ harassing and exposing neighbours for minor departures from the rules. Some of the attacks were physical, it also created the atmosphere of mistrust, where many citizens refused to get tested, clearly the opposite of government’s intentions.

    In fact, as people started ducking-and-diving and leaving the phone at home, or sharing a phone with non-corona members of the family, South Korean government had to switch to wrist-bands to force the use. No doubt it will take enterprising Koreans a few days more to figure out how to duck this one, as nobody wants to get doxed or lynched by a neighbour going mental after too many weeks of lockdown.

    What next?
    The bottom line is that governments are hollowing out our hard-fought personal privacy despite the fact that much of the tech used for track-and-trace is ineffective or downright harmful as it puts people off testing like in South Korea.

    The truth is that the track-and-trace apps are a diversion for the press riding on ‘there is an app for that’ syndrome of wishful thinking that has pestered our techno-optimistic Wired-reading governments for over a decade.

    Syndromic surveillance and track-and-trace apps may be a small part of the solution, but short of inserting a chip into the body of everyone on the planet, the real solution is the expensive, analogue and technically unexciting mass scale testing for live cases as well for antibodies to establish who had it.

    Anything else is just a dead cat on the dining room table.

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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    'Stay alert' - Government attempts to explain confusing new coronavirus slogan

    That kind of implies --check out what others are doing -- leading to informing.




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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    Dr Andrew Kaufman - They Want to Modify Us




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    The technology to be used to administer the 'Gates' vaccine is the same technology they use to tweak GMO plants and animals.

    No wonder they want to brand the bodies they do this to.


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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    There are reasons to think Covid19 may be a biowarfare agent either leaked or intentionally released. What I don't get is people wanting to get out there and protest the lockdown IF they believe this. If they HAVE to get out to work because they are hungry and can't pay their rent or mortgage, it makes sense.

    But there are people on this forum, from what I can see, who are claiming a biowarfare conspiracy, and encouraging outdoor protests. Maybe I am mistaken. Not sure. Maybe that's the 5G crowd. Sometimes it's difficult to figure out what people believe about Covid and why.

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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    The Chinese system comes to America
    by Jon Rappoport
    May 11, 2020
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...es-to-america/

    "The plan: use the “pandemic” as the rationale for “re-imagining” the guts of society—education, the workplace, medical care, transportation, public events, social relationships, the family…

    Thus installing a new culture.

    That desiccated dusty vampire, NY Governor Cuomo, and the cosmically psychopathic Howdy Doody, Bill Gates, are in the process of re-imagining education in NY State. Naturally, it’s all about more computers, and remote learning.

    I guess the dinosaur called BOOKS won’t work, because there’s no glowing screen, and the ability to read is a prerequisite.

    In other news, the Chinese social credit system is coming to corporate America. (The Wall St. Journal has a relevant podcast, “Welcome Back to the Office, Your Every Move Will Be Watched.”) Huge companies are scrambling to put together packages to sell to other huge companies:

    Social distancing in offices, automatically monitored in real time; a caste system for employees based on health indicators; a credit score for each worker at the end of the day showing up on his cell phone; wall-to-wall surveillance…

    Not just for now. For the new “re-imagined” America after the lockdowns are relaxed.

    Unconstitutional, you say? Yes, there will be legal cases. This is called at-will employment. A corporation tells an employee: “You don’t want to submit to an antibody test? Or a vaccine? You don’t want to carry your cell around with you at work, so we can accomplish minute-to-minute contact tracing? You don’t want to wear a wrist band that measures social distancing? Fine. We understand. This is a free country. But you can’t work here anymore…”

    How could this happen?

    Who—one of the richest men in the world—loved the Mao Revolution in China? Who wrote about it glowingly, in the NY Times: “Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution [30-60 million killed by their own government], it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.” (“From a China Traveler”, The New York Times, August 10, 1973.)

    Who sent his agent, the president of the United States, Richard Nixon, to China, a year earlier, to open up trade after 25 years of diplomatic isolation?

    Whose family had staged a revolution in medicine in the early 20th century, ultimately forcing a pharmaceutical paradigm down the throats of billions of people?

    Who extended the germ theory of disease to the point at which populations would be hypnotized by it?

    Who knew that medical tyranny and dictatorship were the roads to travel, in order to gain control of nations and bring in a new world order?

    DAVID ROCKEFELLER.

    His beloved Chinese system of slavery comes to America.

    Speaking of re-imagining, here is a backgrounder I wrote four years ago. It lays out the operation known as the Trilateral Commission, created by David Rockefeller.

    Its goal? A collectivist world, run as a corporate entity. What better excuse for its necessity than a global “pandemic?” Top-down governance of the planet, in order to detect the earliest signs of disease outbreaks anywhere…

    Backgrounder: The secret circle that controls governments

    Who is in charge of destroying separate nations?

    One group has been virtually forgotten. Its influence is enormous. It has existed since 1973.

    It’s called the Trilateral Commission (TC).

    Keep in mind that the original stated goal of the TC was to create “a new international economic order.”

    In the run-up to his inauguration after the 2008 presidential election, Barack Obama was tutored by the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

    In 1969, four years before birthing the TC with David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote: “[The] nation state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force. International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation state.”

    Goodbye, separate nations.

    Any doubt on the question of TC goals is answered by David Rockefeller himself, in his Memoirs (2003): “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    Patrick Wood, author of Trilaterals Over Washington, points out there are only 87 members of the Trilateral Commission who live in America. Obama appointed eleven of them to posts in his administration.

    For example:

    * Tim Geithner, Treasury Secretary
    * James Jones, National Security Advisor
    * Paul Volker, Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee
    * Dennis Blair, Director of National Intelligence

    Here is a stunning piece of forgotten history, a 1978 conversation between a US reporter and two members of the Trilateral Commission. (Source: Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management; ed. by Holly Sklar, 1980, South End Press, Pages 192-3).

    The conversation was public knowledge at the time.

    Anyone who was anyone in Washington politics, in media, in think-tanks, had access to it. Understood its meaning.

    But no one shouted from the rooftops. No one used the conversation to force a scandal. No one protested loudly.

    The conversation revealed that the entire basis of the US Constitution had been torpedoed, that the people who were running US national policy were agents of an elite shadow group. No question about it.

    And yet: official silence. Media silence. The Dept. of Justice made no moves, Congress undertook no serious inquiries, and the President, Jimmy Carter, issued no statements. Carter was himself an agent of the Trilateral Commission in the White House. He had been plucked from obscurity by David Rockefeller, and through elite TC press connections, vaulted into the spotlight as a pre-eminent choice for the Presidency.

    The following 1978 conversation featured reporter, Jeremiah Novak, and two Trilateral Commission members, Karl Kaiser and Richard Cooper. The interview took up the issue of who exactly, during President Carter’s administration, was formulating US economic and political policy.

    The careless and off-hand attitude of Trilateralists Kaiser and Cooper is astonishing. It’s as if they’re saying, “What we’re revealing is already out in the open, it’s too late to do anything about it, why are you so worked up, we’ve already won…”

    NOVAK (the reporter): Is it true that a private [Trilateral committee] led by Henry Owen of the US and made up of [Trilateral] representatives of the US, UK, West Germany, Japan, France and the EEC is coordinating the economic and political policies of the Trilateral countries [which would include the US]?

    COOPER: Yes, they have met three times.

    NOVAK: Yet, in your recent paper you state that this committee should remain informal because to formalize ‘this function might well prove offensive to some of the Trilateral and other countries which do not take part.’ Who are you afraid of?

    KAISER: Many countries in Europe would resent the dominant role that West Germany plays at these [Trilateral] meetings.

    COOPER: Many people still live in a world of separate nations, and they would resent such coordination [of policy].

    NOVAK: But this [Trilateral] committee is essential to your whole policy. How can you keep it a secret or fail to try to get popular support [for its decisions on how nations will conduct their economic and political policies]?

    COOPER: Well, I guess it’s the press’ job to publicize it.

    NOVAK: Yes, but why doesn’t President Carter come out with it and tell the American people that [US] economic and political power is being coordinated by a [Trilateral] committee made up of Henry Owen and six others? After all, if [US] policy is being made on a multinational level, the people should know.

    COOPER: President Carter and Secretary of State Vance have constantly alluded to this in their speeches. [a lie]

    KAISER: It just hasn’t become an issue.

    This interview slipped under the mainstream media radar, which is to say, it was buried.

    US (and other nations’) economic and political policy run by a committee of the Trilateral Commission—the Commission created in 1973 by David Rockefeller and his sidekick, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

    When Carter won the presidential election (1976), his aide, Hamilton Jordan, said, if after the inauguration, Cy Vance and Brzezinski came on board as secretary of state and national security adviser, “We’ve lost. And I’ll quit.” Lost—because both men were powerful members of the Trilateral Commission and their appointment to key positions would signal a surrender of White House control to the Commission.

    Vance and Brzezinski were appointed secretary of state and national security adviser, as Jordan feared. But he didn’t quit. He became Carter’s chief of staff.

    Now consider the vast propaganda efforts of the past 40 years, on so many levels, to install the idea that all nations and peoples of the world are a single Collective.

    From a very high level of political and economic power, this propaganda op has had the objective of grooming the population for a planet that is one coagulated mass, run and managed by one force. A central engine of that force is the Trilateral Commission.

    —One planet, with national borders erased, under one management system, with a planned global economy, “to restore stability,” “for the good of all.”

    And one day in the future, a student would ask his teacher, “What happened to the United States?” And the teacher would say, “It was a criminal enterprise based on individual freedom. Fortunately, our leaders rescued the people and taught them the superior nature of HARMONY AND COOPERATION.” "
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: Covid19: Cui Bono? What's the real agenda?

    If it is correct that Bank of England has an "open secret" policy similar to the U. S. business loans, but, confined to the largest and highest-rated companies without being compelled to say whom:

    "If a company meets these requirements, the Bank then purchases an amount of short-term debt from the company with brand new money it creates entirely for this purpose. This is public money pure and simple...

    We’ve only learnt about a handful of company bailouts (such as EasyJet, Greggs, Redrow Homes and First Group) backhandedly through the press...

    Tesco has paid out £900 million in dividends to investors despite securing a £585 million tax break from the Government. Irrespective of the arguments here, Tesco, who by their own admission, has a strong balance sheet, has taken nearly £600m from the taxpayer in a desperate moment to the benefit of its shareholders. Tesco biggest shareholders are the American giant Blackrock with Norges Bank and Schroders Bank close behind."

    Here, when the largest job loss report in history was announced, the stock market went up. The way this works, is, the aforementioned Blackrock acts as a broker in the situation that:

    Every day, the Fed is spending $80 billion to buy up assets from banks and corporations to fuel the market rise.

    If we follow this money, does it seem to have the least bit of intent to exploit labor by sending them back to work while the disease outbreak is still basically the same thing, make them accept inferior conditions and increased mass poverty?

    What will happen in the U. S. is that unlike the Federal government, states do not have any deficit spending, so they cannot really get a loan to cover the gaps. The inevitable budget shortfalls will shear social services first.

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    [B]Dr. Andrew Kaufman: They Want To Genetically Modify Us With The COVID-19 Vaccine
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    "In this powerful interview Spiro is joined with Doctor Andrew Kaufman. Spiro and Dr. Kaufman discuss the expanding curtailment of basic civil liberties being normalized under the false pretext of a global health emergency.

    Doctor Kaufman lays his reputation and his career on the line as he blows the whistle, on what he describes as a manufactured crisis to carry out a preplanned agenda to facilitate global governance and population control.

    Doctor Kaufman is a well educated medical professional who convincingly illustrates, using the CDC's own technical data, how the public has been manipulated on the grandest scale.
    Moderator Note from Tintin @19:09GMT May 15th 2020: not for the first time Youtube has removed the video attached to the original link, that I have now replaced with this one - below - from altcensored.com. A gentle reminder to everyone when it comes to posting links to videos on Youtube: download them wherever possibleand wetransfer them to us if you can't otherwise provide links to them, or find alternative other sites to link to. There is, and has been for a while, as you must all surely know by now, a major purge going on. I'll get this into the Avalon Library just as soon as that's back up and running. In the meantime this is downloadable by clicking on the 'three dots' set to right bottom on the frame via the below link, or via the embedded film. Kia ora, Tintin.
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    Dr Andrew Kaufman: They Want To Genetically Modify Us With The COVID 19 Vaccine

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    "Dr Andrew Kaufman joins Spiro Skouras with his laser-like way of describing what is happening around the world with this Globalist "pandemic"

    "In an unprecedented way, we see all of the governments around the world, with very few exceptions, all adopting the same policies, all at the same timeframe, right? This tells us that that this is a highly-coordinated effort, internationally and it tells us that there is a group of people or individuals who are directing the governments, essentially what to do.

    "This is compatible with a Globalist agenda, moving towards a One World Government, with tighter control over the population, with a reduced population, with a new financial, monetary and currency system, and there's evidence for all these aspects and I think the overall plan has been well laid-out in the United Nations document, Agenda 21, later changed to Agenda 2030.

    "There are many other supporting documents, like you pointed out, the Rockefeller document and there are several others, that essentially gives all the details to this plan and they all correlate to the policies that are taking place right now.

    "They basically want to inject genes into us and they're using this procedure called 'electroporation', where they apply an electric current through two extra needles with the vaccine that creates little holes in our cells that allow the DNA to go inside our own cells and then they are supposed to make foreign proteins that supposedly generate immunity...
    "They want to make us into Genetically-Modified Organisms, because this is the exact same procedure that they would be using to make a Genetically-Modified Organism."

    Dr Kaufman is risking his reputation and his medical license to get this information out as widely as possible because he doesn't want his children to live in a world with no freedom, which he believes is where we're headed if this isn't rejected by the people.

    Citing the CDC's own publicly-available data, updated daily on their website, Kaufman points out that there is no "excess mortality" charting. In fact, the number of deaths this season is lower than it has been for the past three years.
    This leads him to think that this so-called pandemic is a "manufactured public relations, marketing operation." There is no virus or disease but there are major changes to government policies in all areas that are severely limiting our freedoms.

    He says the novel coronavirus has, in fact never been isolated and that its identity is based on tiny snippets of DNA fed into a computer model - which, he says is also how the SARS virus of the 2003 was identified. The COVID-19 virus is being classified as a member of that SARS family because it shares 80% of its genetics with SARS, based on this very slipshod modeling.

    For some perspective on how genetically distant 80% is, human beings share 80% of our genomes with cattle.

    Moreover, the sample population originally used to collect materials and identify the COVID-19 virus was 7 people - and there was no control group. None of the basic scientific standards have been met in the identification of the novel coronavirus, such as purifying and isolating the virus particle through a filter. Its identification is based solely on theoretical and digital modeling.

    These are just a few examples of the bad science involved. There's much more that he details here. In short, this pandemic a massive medical fraud.
    Since beginning of this #CoronaHoax, we've been hearing all kinds of contradictory information about the very nature of viruses, themselves, with some subscribing to
    Rudolf Steiner's suggestion that viruses don't exist at all but that they're the excreted toxicity of cells, aka exosomes.

    Spiro asks Dr Kaufman, "At this point, they haven't been able to successfully isolate the COVID-19 virus, so we don't know if it really exists, because they haven't been able to prove it. And then, the testing, itself is very flawed...resulting in many false positives and the method by which they are testing does not really make sense, scientifically...

    "Koch's Postulates, which are meant to prove and...reproduce the effect of viruses have never been accomplished for any viruses - so, would that call into question viruses, themselves, their existence?

    "And if that's the case, then how do you explain when people get sick, like when they catch the flu and they just feel like crap, I mean, we all thought it was viruses. What can you tell us?"

    Dr Kaufman says it's true that Koch's Postulates have never been satisfied for the disease causation of any virus, which means that our ideas about viruses consist largely of dogma and are based on a scientific system that rewards this theory-based approach.

    When asked about the bioweapons angle of this story, Dr Kaufman gives a surprising reply: "I'm sure there are Top Secret labs that are researching all kinds of weapons...but...if there's really no biological model for a virus to cause this disease, I'm not sure what they're engineering, exactly.

    "I imagine that it would be extremely difficult to create some kind of biological organism that would cause disease, because most of the time when we have parasitic problems, they're opportunistic.

    "They're there because there's something not right in our body and they're actually trying to help us get rid of that but in the process, they might get out of control and cause us problems. But I'm not aware of any organisms that some in and take over when you're healthy. So, I think that would be a really tall order and I'm not sure that it's even possible.

    "But if they did want to make us sick, the easiest thing would be to put toxins into our bodies and there's many ways this can be done - and that has been done. For example, they're putting fluoride in our water supply, which is a known toxin to the central nervous system.

    And even the CDC put out a guidance in the early 2000s, instructing parents of newborns not to use fluoridated water to mix baby formula, because it would affect the children's neurological development, right? Yet, they put it in our water. You can look at what happened in Michigan, with the lead pipes and the lead poisoning from the water...

    "But getting back to the mortality figures, we haven't seen excess mortality, so if there's any strategy like this, I don't see evidence that it's been deployed. Now, am I concerned that it will be deployed in a second wave or a future part of this psychological operation? Yeah, I concerned about that."

    As for the "Contact Tracing" programs, now hiring tens of thousands of workers, aiming to remove individuals from their homes to put them into a quarantine prison, Dr Kaufman says that the term, "Contact Tracing" was created in the 1931 and all of this has been in the planning stages for a long, long time and that it absolutely does represent an end to our freedom.

    The Royal Academy of Sciences journal in May of 2019 dedicated the entire issue to managing a pandemic and methods of controlling the population, which is what "Contact Tracing" is for.

    "So, they took the easy way to do this, because if they just come up with a completely fake illness and get everyone to volunteer to give up all their rights, it's much easier and much less risky than unleashing some kind poison on the population that would really make people sick and die - and that would also put themselves at risk. How would they make themselves invulnerable?

    "In a sense, it's a kind of genius plot but it's a very sinister genius plot.
    "[Contact Tracing] is the next step to further get us to volunteer to give up our rights and this time, it's mostly about privacy. And they may say that, initially, they're doing it for the public health but we don't really know what their real intention is and I don't think there's going to be transparency.

    "There was a Contact Tracing app...it would give you a red light or a green light and that would be to let you into your office building or to use public transportation. So, these things, where we have freedom of movement, now we have to be granted a privilege based on this...

    "One of the [Contact Tracing recruitment] ads that you showed, they were looking for people with military experience...they know how to knock down doors, they know how to look for evidence and trash places, they know how to intimidate people. That's what they're doing and their training and their experience in a military operation. So clearly, there's an intention to use these types of tactics with our own citizens."

    All of this is covered in the 2010 Rockefeller "Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development" paper, under the heading of "Lock Step".

    Spiro says, "It's beyond Orwellian...Under the guise of this pandemic, it could be used to achieve many goals...one of them...is disappearing dissidents. Remember, at the beginning of this outbreak, at the beginning of the year? We had see all these videos coming out of China...there were so many videos of men in full hazmat suits...dragging people out of their homes, literally kicking and screaming.

    And if you look at who was filming those videos...they were *with* those dragging people from their homes. So, how did those videos get shared on social media, with the tight clampdown that China has? I think that there's a chance that they wanted the world to see those videos and to terrify people...and to normalize the idea."

    Dr Kaufman says that if you want to know what the vaccine agenda is, it very easy to find out, you just need to read their Agenda 2030 documents.

    "All of these measures are really voluntary...If we rely on the authorities to give us approval to exercise our freedoms, they're going to take more freedoms away, as they've been doing. So, while I respect people who want to go and protest at city hall or at the state capital, they are coming from the right point of view but they're just asking the authority figures, the government to give them permission, when they don't need permission from the government, they already have permission because they have inalienable rights.

    "It's not really a decision for me it's just what I feel that I have to do to preserve a way of life and the way that I want to live, for me and for my children." "
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    The F. B. I. has entered the house of Senator Burr and removed: a cellphone.

    There is at least an investigation against insider trading, which did make one grit one's teeth in the early days, but, since then, seeing where several piles of hundreds of billions have gone in the U. S. and U. K., I doubt anyone will really ever have to answer for that.

    I suppose the mask and glove companies--presumably lots of plastic petroleum stuff in there--will do rather well. At the same time, it is not too hard to find medical advice that wearing a mask is rather risky. Depletes blood oxygen to begin with. And you simply rebreathe anything you've got. That means it is even more risky to the vulnerable population already having diseases.

    On the other hand it is impossible to prove it actually does anything. How can someone really say I am not sick because of this mask?

    For its limited and specific applications, like surgery, I am sure it is a good idea, but foisting it on the general public just sounds like a racket.

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    There is an agenda.

    What has happened is that the bureaucrats, non-wealth-building citizens who constantly need to justify their paychecks and crave authority as proof of their high status, have designed an unreasonable response to the mere hint of a pandemic.

    Completely divorced from common sense, which is their trademark, they mean to contain an invisible and largely unproven menace by over-kill, regardless of the collateral damage.

    In Canada alone, 35,000,000 people are required to shut down their lives for the sake of 5,000 people , the vast majority of which would have died anyway. That is bureaucratic over-reach at its finest. And our Prime Minister just okayed a grant of over $700,000,000 to the Gates Foundation to further their hunt for a vaccine.

    This whirlwind activity surrounding an unproven threat is hijacking the narrative by skirting the facts and appealing to peoples' base instinct to survive. Logic and rationality has no place in such a scenario because they are locked in survival mode by the rhetoric spewing from the mouths of our so-called 'Leaders'.

    Combine that with mass migration of peoples from impoverished regions of the world, and the agenda is quite clear: Mix first world with third world populations and take back the little previous generations have gained in terms of individuals rights and freedoms for the sake of 'safety and security'. Third world populations just want to work without fear of chaos and death, which is the way of life where most have come from. The trade off in terms of perceived safety, in their terrorized minds, is well worth the removal of some freedoms.

    Now remove the last vestiges of normalcy from the fabric of society and the new rules can be implemented without challenge. That is where we are today, on the brink of the 'new normal'. Where the third world participants will sway the nations of the west to accept security of person at the price of personal freedom, which is what they were used to in their nations of origin.

    The Western World was predicated upon the notion that to let the individual take their own path through life provides more incentive for wealth and prosperity than any government can by decree. It has been proven correct for centuries.

    Unfortunately, the individual's freedom necessitated the free reign of very greedy and very bad men of nefarious intent. And through secret clubs and occulted information these bad guys have come to the brink of complete mastery of the globe!

    That is the agenda.

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    The latest breaking news on planet Half-Wit....

    http://nypost.com/2020/05/13/greta-t...site%20buttons
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    There is an agenda.

    What has happened is that the bureaucrats, non-wealth-building citizens who constantly need to justify their paychecks and crave authority as proof of their high status, have designed an unreasonable response to the mere hint of a pandemic.

    Completely divorced from common sense, which is their trademark, they mean to contain an invisible and largely unproven menace by over-kill, regardless of the collateral damage.

    In Canada alone, 35,000,000 people are required to shut down their lives for the sake of 5,000 people , the vast majority of which would have died anyway. That is bureaucratic over-reach at its finest. And our Prime Minister just okayed a grant of over $700,000,000 to the Gates Foundation to further their hunt for a vaccine.
    Sounds like Canada needs to be stopped.

    As for the money, probably no one will be held accountable.

    Yes I think these reactions totally fold into the same standing agenda. As for this incident to have been the specific trigger, it seems to me there has simply been a search for a Black Swan that just wasn't going to happen in the Mid-east militarily. If I lean toward the view that the disease may have been natural and unplanned, it is just an opportunity or excuse for the largest heist ever and possibly the disposal of the petrodollar. I personally cannot crank out evidence that the disease was either intentionally released, or, intentionally produced, and that is not really necessary to show that a state of oppression "until a vaccine" is an agenda-driven manipulation.

    It seems to me the basic artificial scare tactic is that The Virus "was" cancer on behalf of the fraudulent American Cancer Society until 1980 and then it "became" AIDS and all these subsequent versions until today.

    The best I can say right now is that it looks like the WHO will allow Madagascar's tea into a clinical trial, but, it has already done this, rated second-best with 2005 SARS.

    It is possible with more mounting evidence that the Emperor Has No Clothes, we might be able to toss some of the autocracy into the dustbin of history. I mean, if this turns into next to nothing that is proven can be prevented or cured basically by an organic lifestyle, and everyone knows it, what would be the future of the likes of Gates?

    It looks like Senator Burr has a little "cookie jar" problem which has led to his leaving the Senate Intelligence Committee.
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    Link below has a 36 minute embedded audio player.

    Excerpt from long text:
    Quote Transcription: Was COVID-19 Genetically Engineered?

    Was the Covid-19 pandemic from a genetically engineered virus or a natural one? I have amassed a bunch of information from various sources to report on what we know and it’s pretty damning.

    I’m going to present evidence suggesting that the SARS CoV-2 was specifically genetically engineered according to some sources. Even the strains of natural viruses that were used as the basis, according to this hypothesis. We’re going to talk about the lab that is likely to have done the genetic engineering and a person who may have committed fraud to cover up the lab based origins of the virus. We’ll also talk about the current state of safety of genetically engineered viruses and those that are not genetically engineered, but currently being experimented with in laboratories around the world and how this presents us with the possibility of future pandemics, possibly with greater damage than this one, unless we make a change. We’re going to spend a lot of time on this and it’s actually quite an interesting story.
    https://www.responsibletechnology.or...4-7a7513e0b847

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    There is an agenda.

    What has happened is that the bureaucrats, non-wealth-building citizens who constantly need to justify their paychecks and crave authority as proof of their high status, have designed an unreasonable response to the mere hint of a pandemic.

    Completely divorced from common sense, which is their trademark, they mean to contain an invisible and largely unproven menace by over-kill, regardless of the collateral damage.

    In Canada alone, 35,000,000 people are required to shut down their lives for the sake of 5,000 people , the vast majority of which would have died anyway. That is bureaucratic over-reach at its finest. And our Prime Minister just okayed a grant of over $700,000,000 to the Gates Foundation to further their hunt for a vaccine.

    This whirlwind activity surrounding an unproven threat is hijacking the narrative by skirting the facts and appealing to peoples' base instinct to survive. Logic and rationality has no place in such a scenario because they are locked in survival mode by the rhetoric spewing from the mouths of our so-called 'Leaders'.

    Combine that with mass migration of peoples from impoverished regions of the world, and the agenda is quite clear: Mix first world with third world populations and take back the little previous generations have gained in terms of individuals rights and freedoms for the sake of 'safety and security'. Third world populations just want to work without fear of chaos and death, which is the way of life where most have come from. The trade off in terms of perceived safety, in their terrorized minds, is well worth the removal of some freedoms.

    Now remove the last vestiges of normalcy from the fabric of society and the new rules can be implemented without challenge. That is where we are today, on the brink of the 'new normal'. Where the third world participants will sway the nations of the west to accept security of person at the price of personal freedom, which is what they were used to in their nations of origin.

    The Western World was predicated upon the notion that to let the individual take their own path through life provides more incentive for wealth and prosperity than any government can by decree. It has been proven correct for centuries.

    Unfortunately, the individual's freedom necessitated the free reign of very greedy and very bad men of nefarious intent. And through secret clubs and occulted information these bad guys have come to the brink of complete mastery of the globe!

    That is the agenda.
    Hey Ernie! I went onto the CBC website today and with only a hint of "..asking people to do the research themselves to find out the truth." I was quickly shut down.

    It seems that I can't even get back into the comments section from the same laptop.

    Not the Canada I remember from growing up. Trudeau is the real virus I think.

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    VICTORY - Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci & Big Pharma lost a Massive Supreme Court Case in USA

    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    Quote Not the Canada I remember from growing up.
    Same here. But what I've come to realize is that this is not my country. It is the globalist's fascist safe-haven: A giant corporate hegemony where the rule of law is set by big business and global interests.

    Sad but true. I am a sovereign without a nation...

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    Amazing? I am sure it is just coincidence....

    https://rense.com/general96/5G-Covid.php
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    Bizarre EU Funded Comic Book Predicted Pandemic, With Globalists As Saviours

    Eerie 2012 document painted eurocrats as saving the planet from a killer virus and draconian lockdowns

    Steve Watson | Infowars.com - May 15, 2020

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    A strange comic book that was commissioned for publication by the European Union in 2012 eerily predicted almost exactly what has unfolded with the Covid-19 global pandemic. However, in this propaganda laced presentation of the outbreak, unelected globalist bureaucrats save the planet.

    The comic book, titled ‘Infected’, was a production of the European Commission’s international cooperation and development arm. It was not intended for widespread public consumption, but instead to be distributed inside EU institutions. Only a few hundred of the comic books were made.

    The EU’s description of the strange publication states that “While the story may be fictional, it is nevertheless intertwined with some factual information.”

    The graphic novel depicts scientists inside a lab in China experimenting with deadly pathogens:

    A wannabe hero time travels from the future, alerting authorities to the coming pandemic, and presents an antidote, before quickly becoming the target of opportunists who want to steal the cure and sell it to drug companies:

    The story features the transmission of a novel virus from animals to humans in a crowded wet market:


    “Indeed, imagine if you were infected in this market by a new contagious agent.” says the UN’s chief advisor on contagious diseases, adding “You probably wouldn’t even realise it until the end of the incubation period.”

    The publication suggests that air travel would exacerbate the spread of the disease, with the character adding that “You’d have headed back to Europe, the US, Latin America, or Australia as planned via an international airport.”

    The cartoon depicts the failure of a global health organisation to act quickly enough to stop a pandemic:


    It also predicts draconian safety measures, including social distancing, which make everyday life “totally unbearable”:

    The piece concludes with an EU Parliament hearing, in which Brussels pushes for more integrated European cooperation on global health matters, mirroring a real life initiative known as ‘One health’.

    The globalists are lauded for helping develop and distribute a vaccine to the world:

    Was this predictive programming or just a bizarre coincidence?

    In 2020, in reality, the EU has pandered to China, and bowed to censorship regarding the virus outbreak.

    The EU has also been heavily criticised by member states and insiders for monumental failings owing to internal bureaucracy. The EU’s science chief even resigned due to the inept coronavirus response from the institution.

    In the Eurocrats’ own fiction, globalism saves the planet. In reality, it ends in mass death and global tyranny.

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    UPDATE in red - thanks Tintin

    Dr. Andrew Kaufman: They Want To Genetically Modify Us With The COVID-19 Vaccine
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    "In this powerful interview Spiro is joined with Doctor Andrew Kaufman. Spiro and Dr. Kaufman discuss the expanding curtailment of basic civil liberties being normalized under the false pretext of a global health emergency.

    Doctor Kaufman lays his reputation and his career on the line as he blows the whistle, on what he describes as a manufactured crisis to carry out a preplanned agenda to facilitate global governance and population control.

    Doctor Kaufman is a well educated medical professional who convincingly illustrates, using the CDC's own technical data, how the public has been manipulated on the grandest scale.
    Moderator Note from Tintin @19:09GMT May 15th 2020: not for the first time Youtube has removed the video attached to the original link, that I have now replaced with this one - below - from altcensored.com. A gentle reminder to everyone when it comes to posting links to videos on Youtube: download them wherever possible and wetransfer them to us if you can't otherwise provide links to them, or find alternative other sites to link to. There is, and has been for a while, as you must all surely know by now, a major purge going on. I'll get this into the Avalon Library just as soon as that's back up and running. In the meantime this is downloadable by clicking on the 'three dots' set to right bottom on the frame via the below link, or via the embedded film. Kia ora, Tintin.
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    Dr Andrew Kaufman: They Want To Genetically Modify Us With The COVID 19 Vaccine

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