Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Gone001]

Posted by Ross (here)

2012 21st december.... will it be planet X causing a pole shift or will Patrick Geryls prediction of A KILL SHOT from the sun cause a pole shift =

IS THE HUMAN RACE DOOMED ON THAT DATE ? Thank you

No. 21/12/ 2012 will pass without the above occuring. At a later date there is the possible timeframe for earthly events that are serious, it has happened all before, but not 2012.

Ross

It boggles my mind to hear you say that in an absolute. Need I remind you that the Mayans, Aztecs and many other ancient civilizations from different eras and geological locations give significance to DEC 21st 2012. Of course that date could have been fed to them to mislead modern society but to say for certain nothing will happen given the overwhelming significance that has been applied to that date by several ancient advanced societies is ludicrous.

Cheers,

Aldous

[str8thinker]

Thanks for the movie.

I couldn't help noticing this comment from the YouTube page:

Normally I'm not a debunker ..... however something caught my eye:

Planet-X/ Nibiru 1984 => 50 billion miles from earth

8 years later ( 1992 ) => 7 billion miles from the sun

=> 43 billion miles in 8 years = 5,375 blllion miles/year

Distance earth to sun = 93 million miles

If Planet-X/Nibiru travels 5,375 billion miles/year, then it should have been here already somewhere in 1994!!

Something is not right here....

[Mutchie]

I read Corsons post with great interest on how the world MIGHT BE AFTER A CATACLYSM i think you,d need to ARM YOURSELF because the law would no longer exist there would be strength in numbers i mean people would kill you for food if it was that bad !

I firmly believe it would be DOG EAT DOG let the fittest survive .......it would depend on what was left and where it was !

its possible you,d have to learn to kill humans just to survive yourself i mean lets say gangs were formed who tryed to just take and rape and what have it you,d be left with NO CHOICE I,d PROTECT MY WIFE & KIDS WITH DEADLY FORCE IF THE NEED AROSE !!!!

[Swami]

Well, maybe it did str8thinker.......

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uo4V6eQXYZA

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK7eWEUwRDg

But the timelines don't fit......

KITCHEN OF INSANITY - Time

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9JB3AOET_58

[Mutchie]

The NEAT COMET was A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE WOULD BE TOLD NOTHING ABOUT ANY IMPENDING DOOM

[king anthony]

Time of great change is coming and many people know this already. Everything has been made known, even though it has been mixed with other things.

It is not only about freedom, becoming independent from 'civilization's corrupt ways', for this is part of waking up - this allows people to make informed decisions, apply critical thinking and see and understand with clarity.

It is not only about 'spiritual' [using traditional words] awakening or preparing for what will be. Events will be happening and choices will have to be made by each person, for no one can lead when this moment comes.

Where to go and the sides to align with will be the greatest challenge for most, for trust will be scarce for a time. Take comfort with knowledge and the desired 'emotional charge' (feeling) that will present itself - however, be sure.

To know truths, one needs to go far back into history and learn what the ancients knew (as much as one can). Don't believe what I (or others) say, be careful of 'prepackaged convenient information' for nothing is gained when it is simply given.

Planet X, Wormwood, Nibiru, etc... what happened before? A harvesting leaving behind only enough to start again? What are the origins of the ancient knowledge? What is the human species; is 'perception' clouded by need (of thought)?

Regardless, those who can overcome and adopt (in every way) during, what is coming, will have a greater chance of success. To prepare for this is to be secure with what is in mind and hand.

Afterwards, what will be... opportunity once again.

[Swami]

Posted by kinerkid (here)

Posted by Inelia (here)
I too have been wondering why the powers that be are hiding Planet X. It is being shielded on various levels, including RV. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does it exist? I think so.

Hi Inelia - Wow! How would they shield this type of knowledge (or any other for that matter) from RV? I can understand it being shielded from an individual they're aware of doing RV but on a global scale...well...I have no idea how they'd do that. Very fascinating! Can you explain further?

Thank you!

Very good question, please eloborate Inelia...

[Swami]

Posted by Mutchie (here)

2012 21st december.... will it be planet X causing a pole shift or will Patrick Geryls prediction of A KILL SHOT from the sun cause a pole shift =

IS THE HUMAN RACE DOOMED ON THAT DATE ? Thank you

Another guy who talks about the Killshot......

Find out how to survive The Killshot! If you appreciate the work of Ed Dames, buy the dvd at: http://www.thekillshot.com/ Note: This docu is about ""2 years"" old. The celestial body Mr. Dames is talking about, must be Nibiru, or planet X if you like. According to thousands of ancient writings it must be returning very soon now... 2012 perhaps?

[GOOGLE]-6578438521104676713#[/GOOGLE]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...8521104676713#

The spaceshuttle is still grounded, whatever that means.............

[Operator]

Posted by str8thinker (here)
Thanks for the movie.

I couldn't help noticing this comment from the YouTube page:

Normally I'm not a debunker ..... however something caught my eye:

Planet-X/ Nibiru 1984 => 50 billion miles from earth

8 years later ( 1992 ) => 7 billion miles from the sun

=> 43 billion miles in 8 years = 5,375 blllion miles/year

Distance earth to sun = 93 million miles

If Planet-X/Nibiru travels 5,375 billion miles/year, then it should have been here already somewhere in 1994!!

Something is not right here....

Well here is some additional thought:

Planet-X/ Nibiru 1984 => 50 billion miles from earth
8 years later ( 1992 ) => 7 billion miles from the sun

1. The difference of 43 billion miles isn't the correct difference ... the 2 given distances are not relative to the same thing (earth/sun).
2. everything is moving and orbiting. Depending of where earth is relative to the sun could make a difference of 2 * 93 = 186 million miles !
3. In addition to point 2 the absolute distance is a result of a vector calculation
4. traveling speeds in elliptical orbits are not linear

This does not give you the answer true or not of course but it may help take away some confusion.

P.S. I later realized the distance to the the sun is 'only' 93 million miles which is relatively small compared to numbers in billion of miles

[Calz]

Laura Knight-Jadczyk has some "side issues" going as as Bill Ryan and Jay Weidner can attest to.

That said she is a great writer and superb researcher.

Her is a link to an older artical (just republished) that gives as much detail into this subject as anyone would hope to find (and then some for others):


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/22...-Been-Sighted-

[Swami]

A Brown Dwarf Star Explains So Many Unanswered Questions

Have you ever asked yourself how scientists can know the composition of a planet that's orbiting a star light years away, but yet, they can not come to agreement as to what causes ice ages right here on our own planet Earth?

Yes there are various theories, but there is by far no type of "The World is Round" kind of consensus about why Earth goes through cyclical warming and cooling periods like clockwork.

How about the fact that modern science can actually take an image of an atom but can't seem to figure out how the ancient people of the world built such monuments as the Great Pyramid or Tiwanaku.

We can go to the moon, but we don't understand gravity. Humans can bring living things back from the dead, fondle an organism's DNA, and grow internal organs in a dish, but yet, we don't know what caused the fall of all civilizations worldwide 3,600 years ago.

Have you ever pondered such questions? If you have, maybe you have come to the same conclusion I have, that we are being taught NOT to learn such things.

In this article I am going to try my best to add the missing link to the equation that causes so many unanswered questions. It all fits together nicely.

http://rabbithole2.com/news/top_news..._questions.php

[Mutchie]

I watched Patrick Geryls interview with GREAT INTEREST heres a guy who TRULY BELIEVES these are the last months of civilization -

he states he has decoded ancient messages which were a WARNING that this happens in cycles and that in 2012 a KILL SHOT WILL WIPE US OUT

HE SAYS EVERY BUILDING ON EARTH WILL BE LEVELED ,EVERY VOLCANOE WILL GO OFF , 3 MILE HIGH TSUNAMIS WORLDWIDE WILL ENGULF CONTINENTS , EARTHQUAKES ETC ETC

[Mutchie]

for anyone WHO MAY BE INTERESTED i have come across this guy on you tube who i think is a physicist HE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PREDICTING THE EARTHQUAKES IN DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE WORLD ......and he is getting it RIGHT !!!

i have been following his work for a while but some of it is TOO COMPLICATED for me but he does try to explain things to me when i ask him questions he is COMPLETLEY CONVINCED PLANET X IS A REALITY !

he goes under the name of FREETHISONE.................CHECK HIM OUT

[Inelia]

Posted by Swami (here)

Posted by kinerkid (here)

Posted by Inelia (here)
I too have been wondering why the powers that be are hiding Planet X. It is being shielded on various levels, including RV. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does it exist? I think so.

Hi Inelia - Wow! How would they shield this type of knowledge (or any other for that matter) from RV? I can understand it being shielded from an individual they're aware of doing RV but on a global scale...well...I have no idea how they'd do that. Very fascinating! Can you explain further?

Thank you!

Very good question, please eloborate Inelia...

I haven't really looked at how a group or people, or a particular person, creates the shield. That is a very, very good question and something I will look into. However, I have experienced shields before. When approaching a shield, depending on the nature of the shield, I encounter an energy force that repels. The way these energy forces are experienced depends on their nature and the vibration of the person who is approaching. It is like osmosis, allows certain vibrations in, and not others. And there are those which are blankets, and block everything.
The shield around Planet X and the locations on Earth that are monitoring it felt dimming and nauseous. I only looked at it a few days ago when a friend and I were talking about Planet X. I felt it was curious that someone would shield such a thing, and they explained that the entire subject was being kept secret on a world wide scale (yeah, I didn't know). Although I found the whole thing interesting, it wasn't something I went back to, or though about again until I saw this thread.

To penetrate a shield takes a lot of time and energy, which I am spending in other areas at the moment. However, what really interests me is why the elite are hiding it, not so much that they are hiding it. The only reason that comes up for me is that they want to use it as a tool.

[Mutchie]

Dam Inelia im just away out to drop my daughter off at her friends im fascinated with this talk of remote viewing i have heard of it but i have never really looked into it but ed dames and ingo swann etc really seem to have made significant predictions with it I WANT TO KNOW MORE be back soon family dutys im afraid lol

[Inelia]

Hi Mutchie, I myself have to go for the day to take care of other commitments. But certainly look forward to exploring the RV subject more too. Not sure if this is the right thread though.

[greybeard]

This is a scientist on Coast to Coast talking about the energy predicted to come from the sun and the Niberu planet x briefly.
Now what I hadent realized is that we are going into an area of the Universe that no man has gone into before.
Earth has, its part of the large cycle which lasts millions of years.

A lot of information about the possible affects of energy about 2012 but it may happen earlier, Oct this year possible.

The audio is in ten parts but worth listening to.
Bright future, but not for all, it would seem.

Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc

[observer]

This topic has been broached in other threads here on the Project Avalon Forum.

Here's an example of Bill Ryans response in the past:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi everyone ! With all due respect Bill, how can it be a sundog when the person capturing the photo says that she saw it with her bare eyes before taking the picture ? Unless she is lying !
I think the sundog explanation is not correct.
I will get back soon with planet positions in that general area and time ?

Excuse me Solace why can't we have an open discussion about the topic of Planet X ?
Are you or is anyone else 100% sure that it does not exist ? Does it expressly state in the by-laws of the forum that we cannot discuss and explore this topic.

Hi there -

Yes, I do think 'Planet X' may well exist. It may be a brown dwarf star. See Andy Lloyd's excellent website http://www.darkstar1.co.uk. I've talked at length with Bill Deagle about this personally.

If it's a brown dwarf, it radiates in the infrared and is maybe somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter, sweeping in form the south. That's one very plausible reason for the SPT (the South Pole Telescope).

a) There's no way it's going to be right next to the sun - it would have been noticed in the last eclipse! And if it was this close we'd certainly know about it as the geophysical effects would be significant (and that may be an understatement).

b) No-one's going to take snapshot of it with a digital camera at sunset, and take tens of thousands of amateur astronomers completely by surprise!

c) Sunset is when sundogs almost always appear. They can be seen with the naked eye, and are not a lens flare artifact - they are formed by refractions between cloud layers (basically). They're like a sort of mirage (again, very basically). They DO usually look like the image Viking posted - but not always.

Additionally, I quote from an earlier comment made by myself on this same issue. It seems there are those who need further clairfication:

Posted by observer (here)
Perhaps I can shed some light on this subject from the perspective of an observer:

• First of all, the image one sees on free internet programs like GoogleSky, Space Telescope, etc. are (for the most part) several years old. The combined image is a collage of multiple surveys of our universe. These images come from many different sources.
  
  
• To assume one of the air shafts in the pyramids could point to Planet X is ludicrous. The constellation Orion moves across the night sky; just as all the other constellations move across the sky. Orion is just to the South of the "plane of the ecliptic" in the area of Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. Once a year (for a period of several months) Orion can be seen crossing the night sky; each night progressing a little further from the East to the West - right along with its relationship to Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. To view a celestial body within the constellation of Orion from an air shaft in the Pyramid, one would need the ability to turn the pyramid structure on at least two axis - just like a telescope.
  
  
• Orion is generally considered a Northern constellation, i.e. predominantly visible from the Northern Hemisphere. The alleged path of Nibiru/Planet X is said to be a long period elliptical orbit only visible (at this time) from the Southern Hemisphere. Any object discovered in the area of Orion from the Northern Hemisphere in 1982, and on an incoming trajectory to the center of our solar system, would (long ago) have passed out of sight from any location in the Northern Hemisphere.
  
  
• Planets of our solar system always appear within the "Plane of the Elliptic" (that same narrow band where the constellations of the Zodiac appear). Whenever prominent planets appear in the sky (for instance Mars or Venus) the internet is filled with uninformed reports of Nibiru. I've been observing this phenomenon since I first got a computer in the late nineties.
  
  
• Trust my observations. There are thousands of professional and armature astronomers watching the night sky each and every night. If there were a Planet X within our inner solar system, "real" evidence of it would be all over the Net.

Please, learn at least the basics before you post. It saves so much time for others interested in the topic....

[shiva777]

things you might find interesting regarding planet X......I have heard from a number of unrelated sources that Planet X was blown up in 2003..Swerdlow,Benedicte,Ashayana Deane,Lisa Renee and others...feels right to me..only it's fragments are floating around now


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/he...rcolobus_0.htm

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Inelia (here)
I too have been wondering why the powers that be are hiding Planet X. It is being shielded on various levels, including RV. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does it exist? I think so.

It's a good question. It may be because at the moment they're not confident they can answer questions about it.

It's hard for a President (or a Five Star General, or the Director of National Intelligence) to face the press, take questions, and answer "Gee, we just don't know."

They may also be waiting for the exactly optimum opportunity to make an announcement and then let that be a huge distraction while something else is quietly happening elsewhere.

One thing I feel sure of is that it's got nothing to do with ETs or the Anunnaki. It's a physical problem. A large bowling ball is being rolled through the solar system - and while it won't hit anything, it will probably create gravitational and electromagnetic effects. These of course may already have started (inasmuch as various forms of solar activity may be triggered as the large object approaches).

Posted by shiva777 (here)
things you might find interesting regarding planet X......I have heard from a number of unrelated sources that Planet X was blown up in 2003..Swerdlow,Benedicte,Ashayana Deane,Lisa Renee and others...feels right to me..only it's fragments are floating around now

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/he...rcolobus_0.htm

Nonsense. Another asteroid belt would have been created. Someone might have noticed!