Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by viking (here)
what you normally find with a sun dog is that they are directly to the right or left of the sun... and a distance as well...

Not always... they simply appear as a smaller second sun. You can have all kinds of atmospheric effects and distortions.

People send me cellphone camera photos of 'Planet X' every few weeks. I always have to explain patiently that it wouldn't be visible to the naked eye, would not be that close to the sun, and that the amateur astronomers would be shrieking from the rooftops way before now if such an object were actually there and visible to the naked eye.

I do think there may be something coming in from the outer solar system - but (assuming so) it radiates in the infrared, and is still quite a long way out yet.

The more time elapses before we hear anything about it, the less chance it will appear before 2013. It's a GOOD sign that so far (July 2010) we've seen and heard nothing at all. (And if it does exist, and when it does become visible, it'll first be sighted in the Southern Hemisphere.)

As I mentioned in another thread, Bob Dean's 2017 date might prove to be closer. The only thing we can do is wait and see, and read between the lines of statements (and actions) of the PTB.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes you are absolutely right...but the vast majority of sunspots are normally positioned like that...

anyone interested in this topic check here...



Some reading here...
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...26tbs%3Disch:1

pics...please note the pictures do not resemble what I posted previously...
http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=sun...art=20&ndsp=20

See the difference here...taken in 2004 ... supposedly PX !!
http://planetxprophecies.com/images/planetxfeb04_2.jpg

Yes, it is a good sign that we haven't heard as yet...!

I'll keep on trucking...

viking

[onawah]

I've posted this before, but I still think it's relevant and very interesting.
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2009/07/p...ibiru-has.html

[Eric J (Viking)]

Interesting research by Nancy Leider on PX

On July 11, 2010 there was a total eclipse of the Sun, visible in a swatch across the South Seas and Chili. Up until July 11, 2010 no certain glimpse of Planet X had occurred during an eclipse. But on July 11, those hoping for a revelation hit the jackpot. Planet X is seen in the Northern Hemisphere to the RIGHT of the Sun, along the line of the Ecliptic. All this is reversed in the Southern Hemisphere. That said, where should Planet X have been appearing in the South Seas at approximately 20:00 UTC?

http://api.ning.com/files/V3UFbTf*fA...M/issue482.jpg

The second obvious maneuver by the establishment was to close down all webcams, regardless of where the stream was originating from, promptly after the eclipse. These included, but were not limited to, the following sites from French Polynesia, Tahiti, and Pascua Island off coast of Chile:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-eclipse1/v3
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tahiti...2010-july-11th
http://eclipse.astromatica.es/
The Moon moved across the Sun from the left, so the start of the eclipse was not a worry for the establishment. Planet X was being eclipsed, as the pre-eclipse shot from French Polynesia below shows. But almost instantly after the full eclipse, when Planet X could be expected to EMERGE at the right, all webcams went DOWN.
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...-chile-chaiten
All of them, worldwide, like clockwork.

I thought they were going to show the whole thing. I liked the way they went out of focus toward the end, too.
[and from another]
Was watching 3 different feeds and the streams were stopped dead on the total eclipse and flare which would have revealed much.

The moment just before the cams went dead revealed a light source AT THE 11:00 O’CLOCK POSITION.

The moment prior, no such light source had been showing, proving that the webcams went dead to prevent the public from seeing evidence of the presence of Planet X.



full article here...
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...clipse-reveals

viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by viking (here)
Interesting research by Nancy Leider on PX

Nancy Lieder doesn't do research!

This is a small CME : a Coronal Mass Ejection.

Here's the original image.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not sure if this is the Dwarf folks are talking about??

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WbYhUOzfwkQ

viking

[yiolas]

Hi Guys, There's a bit of news on the Earth Changes and Pole Shift site
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...age=2#comments

This lady and her husband were travellling along the Alberta, Canada U.S. boarder when they spoted this with their bare eyes, then took a picture.

This is how she describes the moment: "I took the photo in southern Alberta near the US. boarder, about 1o days ago while my husband and I were driving back from the Calgary Stampede. The picture was taken from our car. My husband saw it first and gave me his sunglasses, my mouth dropped open when I saw it! "

It would be nice if someone could do a search to see what planets could be seen just above the western horizon at sunset in the area of Alberta, Canada about 10 days ago. This might rule any planets out. I think that the only optical illusion here is that being near the horizon it makes it look larger than it really is.
It does not look like a sun dog because it is partially obscured by the clouds.
What do you guys think ?


Here is the picture:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Yiola ...yes that looks pretty convincing, I saw that article as well....I have noticed that more and more folks are looking to the skies these days and noticing strange anomolies...thats a good link for info regarding Planet X and there are loads of piccies of these strange bodies in the skies!!! And there are not all sun dogs!!!

If there is something up there then I am sure we will see more and more!!!

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Oh incidentely there is an interesting discussion going on here http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...age=4#comments whether it is Planet X or not!!!

viking

[Solace]

Yeah, sure. It must be Planet-X!!!!! Thousands and thousands of astronomers watching the sky right now, and they can't notice a ****** huge planet? This whole Planet-X thing is ridiculous, imo. This is the best way to discredit a forum. Way to go!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Solace (here)
Yeah, sure. It must be Planet-X!!!!! Thousands and thousands of astronomers watching the sky right now, and they can't notice a ****** huge planet? This whole Planet-X thing is ridiculous, imo. This is the best way to discredit a forum. Way to go!

Ok clever clogs...lets try to discredit the photo?? What do you think it is?? Intelligently of course!!

viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by viking (here)
Ok clever clogs...lets try to discredit the photo?? What do you think it is?? Intelligently of course!!

viking

Viking, the sunset photo is a sundog - we've had this conversation before on other threads!!

[yiolas]

Hi everyone ! With all due respect Bill, how can it be a sundog when the person capturing the photo says that she saw it with her bare eyes before taking the picture ? Unless she is lying !
I think the sundog explanation is not correct.
I will get back soon with planet positions in that general area and time ?

Excuse me Solace why can't we have an open discussion about the topic of Planet X ?
Are you or is anyone else 100% sure that it does not exist ? Does it expressly state in the by-laws of the forum that we cannot discuss and explore this topic.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Bill, yes we have had this discussion before and I had stated that sun dogs are directly in line east and west ... not sitting slightly below the sun...

Now this is what a typical sun dog looks like here



I'm not saying that is Planet X ...but what I am saying, in my humble opinion it is not a sun dog!!!

viking

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi everyone ! With all due respect Bill, how can it be a sundog when the person capturing the photo says that she saw it with her bare eyes before taking the picture ? Unless she is lying !
I think the sundog explanation is not correct.
I will get back soon with planet positions in that general area and time ?

Excuse me Solace why can't we have an open discussion about the topic of Planet X ?
Are you or is anyone else 100% sure that it does not exist ? Does it expressly state in the by-laws of the forum that we cannot discuss and explore this topic.

Hi there -

Yes, I do think 'Planet X' may well exist. It may be a brown dwarf star. See Andy Lloyd's excellent website http://www.darkstar1.co.uk. I've talked at length with Bill Deagle about this personally.

If it's a brown dwarf, it radiates in the infrared and is maybe somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter, sweeping in form the south. That's one very plausible reason for the SPT (the South Pole Telescope).

a) There's no way it's going to be right next to the sun - it would have been noticed in the last eclipse! And if it was this close we'd certainly know about it as the geophysical effects would be significant (and that may be an understatement).

b) No-one's going to take snapshot of it with a digital camera at sunset, and take tens of thousands of amateur astronomers completely by surprise!

c) Sunset is when sundogs almost always appear. They can be seen with the naked eye, and are not a lens flare artifact - they are formed by refractions between cloud layers (basically). They're like a sort of mirage (again, very basically). They DO usually look like the image Viking posted - but not always.

[yiolas]

I went to the Stardone at Astronomy.com . Input Alberta,Canada Date: July 15, 2010 . This is what I got. Go to the link yourself and plug in the information.


http://www.astronomy.com/asy/stardome/default.aspx

PDF picture of the web page, using above info.

http___www.astro&#110.pdf

[Eric J (Viking)]

hello again ...

I have just gone through 15 pages of sun dogs here http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en...og&sa=N&tab=wi and not one of them looks like the picture Yiola has posted...They are 2 different things, as I have said before I have seen sun dogs on many occasions and the picture Yiola has presented in my opinion is not sun dog!!

viking

[Operator]

I am absolutely no astronomer ... but my logic tells me that half a year later we are at the other side from the sun. IF this would be an object approaching from the direction
of he sun at one time it should be "in our backside view" half a year later. And this 'object' seems always to be near the sun ...

The only thing that (in theory) would hold is an object with the same orbital time like earth opposite to our relative (to the sun) position. With the (amateur) astronomers getting
better and better you would think that they would even find a brown dwarf if it was within our solar system.

Maybe there is another theory possible that is not even discussed here ... our thought pattern is about objects that we can see and are supposed to approach our solar system ...
The film "2010, the year we make contact" came to mind ... what if an object would enter our solar system "stargate style" ?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Operator (here)
what if an object would enter our solar system "stargate style" ?

Would be like dropping a very big rock in the gravitational pond... I think we would feel the splash!

[observer]

Perhaps I can shed some light on this subject from the perspective of an observer:

• First of all, the image one sees on free internet programs like GoogleSky, Space Telescope, etc. are (for the most part) several years old. The combined image is a collage of multiple surveys of our universe. These images come from many different sources.
  
  
• To assume one of the air shafts in the pyramids could point to Planet X is ludicrous. The constellation Orion moves across the night sky; just as all the other constellations move across the sky. Orion is just to the South of the "plane of the ecliptic" in the area of Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. Once a year (for a period of several months) Orion can be seen crossing the night sky; each night progressing a little further from the East to the West - right along with its relationship to Cancer, Pisces and Taurus. To view a celestial body within the constellation of Orion from an air shaft in the Pyramid, one would need the ability to turn the pyramid structure on at least two axis - just like a telescope.
  
  
• Orion is generally considered a Northern constellation, i.e. predominantly visible from the Northern Hemisphere. The alleged path of Nibiru/Planet X is said to be a long period elliptical orbit only visible (at this time) from the Southern Hemisphere. Any object discovered in the area of Orion from the Northern Hemisphere in 1982, and on an incoming trajectory to the center of our solar system, would (long ago) have passed out of sight from any location in the Northern Hemisphere.
  
  
• Planets of our solar system always appear within the "Plane of the Elliptic" (that same narrow band where the constellations of the Zodiac appear). Whenever prominent planets appear in the sky (for instance Mars or Venus) the internet is filled with uninformed reports of Nibiru. I've been observing this phenomenon since I first got a computer in the late nineties.
  
  
• Trust my observations. There are thousands of professional and armature astronomers watching the night sky each and every night. If there were a Planet X within our inner solar system, "real" evidence of it would be all over the Net.

Please, learn at least the basics before you post. It saves so much time for others interested in the topic....