MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

[pyrangello]

All of this is happening now, this is a very important time in our countries history .

CAUGHT, GOVERNOR __NOW__ CALLING FOR "SIGNATURE AUDIT" ON BALLOTS

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...dit-on-ballots

Check out this link below, take it with a grain of salt but Trump broke the treaty last week for overhead surveillance even within our own agency's

https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activ...-running-cover

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/Maximus_4EVR/sta...409668098?s=20

https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/stat...878913025?s=20

https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/...287226880?s=20

[Gracy]

Ask yourself this question: What was the purpose of yesterday’s White House speech about election fraud and vote rigging?

If you think it was all about Trump communicating to the people, think again. This speech was really about Trump communicating with Chris Miller and the DoD about foreign interference in the U.S. election while laying out the key national security justifications that are necessary to invoke what I’m calling the “national security option” for defending the United States against an attempted cyber warfare coup.

Decoding President Trump’s Dec. 2nd speech

Consider what Trump said in yesterday’s speech. You can watch the full speech here, but if you don’t know what to listen for, you’ll miss all the important language. About 95% of this speech was filler. Only 5% really matters, as I detail below:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-...erference.html

I reckon a question for Mike Adams could be, doesn't he think the President still has the ability to simply initiate a conference call with these people? I dunno, maybe he's gotten word from a super secret inside source that the coup is so nearly complete, the democrat deep state has so infiltrated everything, that Trump can't even get a secure line any more?

Maybe I need to take a crash course in Morse Code, start watching his eye movements for any hidden messages to the DoD like a POW might do, now that the cat is out of the bag that he's communicating with his top people in this manner.

Seriously, do we really now need specialized people to decode Trump speeches, just like we need them to decode Q drops?

[Eric J (Viking)]

HUGE: One Batch of 23,000 Ballots All For Biden Identified in Georgia That Were Fraudulent - More than Enough for Trump Win https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12...haringbuttons… via @gatewaypundit

HUGE: One Batch of 23,000 Ballots All For Biden Identified in Georgia That Were Fraudulent - More...
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1:26 PM · Dec 4, 2020

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bi...gi?read=159590

Viking

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...555014657?s=20

https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/st...310647297?s=20

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/sta...403026434?s=20

[Ba-ba-Ra]

As much as I want this election to be overturned.
As much as I believe there was massive fraud involved.

I have watched the many videos pointing out the fraud evidence and listened to all those fighting for the truth of what happened.

I also know how biased the MSM is and yet I know a good portion of US citizens still believe the MSM. Not many of those here believe the MSM, and if we are just talking to those of like mind we're getting a skewed perspective.

I'm posting the following video just to present another perspective. WARNING: It's not a positive take, but I believe it's one we should at least consider. It's not what I want to happen and I still hold out for a miracle. Which I believe is possible because I've always sensed there is something spiritual at play here, on the other hand, I also know the 'other' team holds a lot of power. So if I don't want what is being suggested here to happen, I have to do whatever I can to not allow it.

And Gracy May I'm not suggesting violence on any level, but evolution, not revolution. Informing as many as we can. Prayer, Meditating, Visualizing the outcome we want. Send videos that inform to friends, don't argue with them, but select carefully videos that might open a crack in their beliefs.

This vid is Larry Klayman (an attorney) started Freedom Watch. He believes our court system is so corrupt that they won't overturn election.

Perhaps if we hear what is possible, we'll know what to do to keep it from happening.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DmRaozcFXLQ

[T Smith]

Posted by Gracy May (here)

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-...erference.html

I reckon a question for Mike Adams could be, doesn't he think the President still has the ability to simply initiate a conference call with these people? I dunno, maybe he's gotten word from a super secret inside source that the coup is so nearly complete, the democrat deep state has so infiltrated everything, that Trump can't even get a secure line any more?

Maybe I need to take a crash course in Morse Code, start watching his eye movements for any hidden messages to the DoD like a POW might do, now that the cat is out of the bag that he's communicating with his top people in this manner.

Seriously, do we really now need specialized people to decode Trump speeches, just like we need them to decode Q drops?

Hi Gracy, I imagine this article troubles you on many levels as Mike Adams addresses head-on many of the concerns you raise in these discussions. I've noticed his commentary and analysis of late speaks directly to your thread here.

That said, I wouldn't characterize the deep state as democrat; there are also many republican actors entrenched in the swamp and many who are not even affiliated with party or elected to office--but yes, to answer your question as bluntly as possible, those implicated, (d), (r), or other, either by payoff, bribery, extortion, blackmail or other means of corruption and control have infiltrated nearly every power center of government. The light of day would expose a very good portion of those at the highest levels of the US government of treason and sedition, imho. Think about that for a minute. If the POTUS or some other earnist government servant is trying to clean out the cesspool with a firehose and Clorox, whom would you trust not to thwart the mission or stab you the back to protect their own hides? With whom would you collude or assign leadership roles and appoint to critical posistions to carry out the objective? etc., etc. This has been my main criticism of Trump. Why appoint Petraeus, Kelly, Christopher Wray, Gina Haspel, Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, etc., to head the departments you are trying to clean up--or trust Chris Christie to provide good counsel and advice?

I know you mean your comments to be sarcastic, but I don't find anything absurd in your statement here. I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them across the room and the deep state for all intents and purposes has "infiltrated everything."

But to speak more directly to your comments I do not believe this was a hidden message to Chris Miller from Donald Trump. Chris Miller, the DIA, the NIA, etc., have a direct line into the White House, per my understanding of things--and they appear to have the President's back. If anything Trump's words may be more a message to the people of what is going on behind the curtain and may serve as the historical record if the military were to become kinetically involved in the manner Mike Adams lays out in this article.

So yes, the suggestion of smoke signals across K street to get a message to Chris Miller is hyperbole, but the level of corruption certainly isn't....imho.

[pyrangello]

Yours Truly Pyro was a campaign manager for a while back 10 years ago. I was helping my candidate who was an independent , oh boy could I tell you the stories . But here's an video we did to describe the 2 party system. Guys were from the sopranos. Hope you get a chuckle from this as this is exactly what we are discussing on this thread. Enjoy.............................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWSlUEfg37E The Dons!

[mountain_jim]

Well Trump needs a historical record somewhere - a quick review of MSM news sites shows the growing election fraud evidence is a total non-story, except for those decrying the lack of enough facebook fact-checking to shout it all down.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/Maximus_4EVR/sta...262867969?s=20

[Lunesoleil]

AMERICAN LECTIONS: THE IDENTITY OF THE “KRAKEN” REVEALED AND THE CIA'S RAID IN GERMANY TO SEIZE THE ELECTION SERVERS - INTERVIEW WITH GENERAL FLYNN AND GENERAL MC INERNEY

Watch: President Trump gives his 'most important speech ever' / 'It requires answers': Video from surveillance camera of Georgian election workers sparks election fraud scandal




French to English translation

[Eric J (Viking)]

BREAKING – The Fight For America Begins: Trump To Invoke Insurrection Act That Authorizes National Guard, Military Action Inside U.S. borders

Dark Outpost

This is bombshell breaking news. See the emergency Counterthink video update, below.
According to sources cited by The Daily Caller, President Trump is poised to invoke theInsurrection Act to fight for America’s survival against the ongoing invasion of illegals who are flooding the United States as a tactic to destroy the country from within.
The Daily Caller is now reporting:
According to multiple senior administration officials, the president intends to invoke the “tremendous powers” of the act to remove illegal immigrants from the country.
The Insurrection Act, passed by Congress in 1807, allows the president to deploy National Guard and U.S. military troops to combat “rebellion” against the United States of America. The Act has been invoked by other presidents to quell violent uprisings such as the L.A. Riots.
It is clear that President Trump now recognizes the open rebellion against America being committed by the Governor of California, mayors of “sanctuary cities” and fake news “journo-terrorists” who are brainwashing Americans to hate their own country. The ongoing land invasion of the United States of America is an act of war being openly supported by Democrats and Leftists who are using illegal immigration to nullify U.S. voters and overrun the United States with anti-American militants, criminals and terrorists. (See CivilWar.news for frequent updates on the coming civil war.) As Stewart Rhodes from Oath Keepers has accurately described, the illegal immigration is designed to import terror cells who plan to carry out a “Tet Offensive” inside the United States, once activated by enemies and traitors who are literally seeking the complete destruction of America.
It has also become obvious over the past few months that the tech giants are waging a coordinated conspiracy to nullify U.S. elections and crush democracy by selectively silencing all conservative voices on the dominant online platforms. This illegal conspiracy — pursued by Facebook, Twitter, Google, Apple and other tech giants — represents an online insurrection against the United States of America, which is why I have repeatedly called for the deployment of military police to arrest the CEOs of these tech companies and force the platforms to respect the First Amendment liberties of the American people.
It is time for Trump to deploy the military police to arrest Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey. And that’s just the start of what needs to happen to restore our democracy and the freedom to speak.
Important analysis in this emergency broadcast Counterthink video

Watch this emergency broadcast video, here, and read the highlights below:
http://Brighteon.com/6038177681001

The radical Left is about to be triggered by the treasonous, deep-state run “mainstream” media to launch an attempted communist revolution and violent coup against America.
Trump fully realizes that a war against America has already begun, and he has decided to take decisive action to defend America using legitimate military forces and all the executive power available to the Commander in Chief.
California is committing planned treason against America by deliberately flooding the country with illegals and granting them the right to vote, allowing illegals to out-vote Americans in national elections. This is a form of electoral fraud that also stacks the U.S. House of Representatives with California-based members of Congress who are illegitimate.
Accordingly, California’s electoral college votes, U.S. Senators and members of the House must be nullified and barred from participating in federal legislative efforts or federal election results (such as the 2020 vote for the presidency). California should be banned from participating in all federal elections until the state enforces voter ID requirements and halts widespread, coordinated voter fraud (which is currently openly encouraged by California bureaucrats).
California has been infiltrated by communist China and is now run by the Chinese. Virtually the entire California media is now owned and operated by communist Chinese, and California’s governor and various mayors are puppets of communist China. They have been promised prominent positions in the Chinese-run “commie California” after the Chinese invasion takes over the West Coast, using California (and the L.A. port) as a beachhead to land troops and stage a land invasion of America.
The Governor of California must be declared an “enemy combatant” and arrested, then charged with treason against America. If found guilty, he should face the death penalty.
The Commander in Chief may deploy the National Guard and U.S. military troops to locate and detain domestic enemies who are actively committing acts of treason against America. This does not violate posse comitatus. The military may pursue the eliminate active enemies of America during a time of war, even when they are operating on U.S. soil.
Once Trump initiates the Insurrection Act, the lawless, deranged Left will immediately declare Trump to be a “military dictator” while calling for Leftists to take to the streets in armed rebellion against the rule of law. Leftists will open fire on Trump supporters, bomb government buildings and attempt to executive police officers and National Guard troops which are deployed to defend America. Pro-Trump Americans need to be prepared to defend themselves against the violence of the lawless Left.
The Governor of California will almost certainly order California-based National Guard troops to disobey President Trump’s federal orders. This may initiate an actual shooting war in California as Trump asserts federal control over National Guard troops while demanding the arrest of Governor Newsom.
Although this may not be part of Trump’s plan, technically the Insurrection Act grants the President the power to arrest the CEOs of California’s tech giants which are engaged in open acts of treason against our constitutional republic.
California looks likely to become the “front lines” of the civil war in America as anti-America forces carrying out treason against America — including Facebook, Google, YouTube, Apple and Twitter, all of which are heavily influenced by communist Chinese infiltration — attempt to overthrow the country and destroy our constitutional republic.
Pro-America citizens of California — especially those in rural areas — need to be prepared to find themselves on the front lines of an actual shooting war being waged across the West Coast. We urge patriots to avoid initiating violence, but be prepared to help stop it.
I am calling for all California-based patriots to be prepared to support Trump’s efforts to defend America by supporting the rule of law and supporting the actions of National Guard or U.S. military troops who are fighting for America’s very survival by seeking to root out and eliminate the enemies of America who are operating from the liberal cities of California.
President Trump likely needs the help of patriotic Americans to defend our borders, defend the rule of law and help authorized forces seek out and detain the treasonous enemies of America who are deliberately trying to destroy this nation from within.
If you are located in California, be ready to defend yourself against the violence of the lunatic Left, which is planning to unleash an armed insurrection that will target patriots, Christians, conservatives, Trump supporters and white people for extreme violence and murder. (The Left will literally start murdering people based on the color of their skin.)
If Democrats somehow manage to take the White House in 2020, they will immediately gut the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, unleashing nationwide gun confiscation, flooding the borders with millions of illegals, and arresting or executing all political dissidents (i.e. pro-America voices) in order to silence those with opposing views. We the People must not let Democrats ever seize power in America again, or they will use that power to destroy America and crush all patriots and conservatives. Under the power of Democrats, Christians would be hunted down and executed on sight. All Christian speech would be criminalized and Bibles would be outlawed, along with all civilian ownership of firearms.
The radical Left is an authoritarian, anti-American cult that has also demonstrated its dangerous lawlessness by censoring all online speech that opposes the deranged delusions of the progressive Left. This is an indicator of their true intent: Total authoritarian rule, complete with speech police and the elimination of those with opposing views. The Left has zero intention of respecting the rule of law, the Bill of Rights or any election laws whatsoever. Every election from this day forward will be stolen or fraudulently altered by Leftists who hate America and despise all pro-American patriots.
It is time for President Trump to deploy the military police to arrest and remove from power all those in government who are actively engaged in acts of treason, sedition and vote fraud. California’s political leaders must be arrested and prosecuted for running a massive vote fraud conspiracy that attempts to steal elections from American citizens.
Here’s a list of the enemies of America who are committing treason in an actual war effort to destroy this nation from within

All of these traitors must be identified, detained and removed from power by authorized forces before they succeed in destroying this nation:
Corrupt liberal judges who defy the President’s efforts to secure the U.S. border. It is time to arrest corrupt, anti-American judges and remove them from power.
Journo-terrorists who pretend to be journalists but are actually anti-American traitors spreading lies, hatred and insanity to indoctrinate liberals and leftists, whipping them up into an attempted “cultural revolution” that has literally driven millions of Leftists to the point of mass mental illness.
CEOs and top managers of the tech giants, which have now sold out to communist China and are using their power to selectively silence pro-America voices across all search engines, social media and online platforms. These tech giants must be occupied and either shut down or forced to respect a level playing field of online speech.
Antifa terrorists and other radical left-wing groups that promise an armed insurrection to attempt to overthrow the United States of America.
Deep state operatives who conspired to carry out a political coup against President Trump. (James Comey, Robert Mueller, John Brennan, etc.)
Liberal university professors who use their positions of influence to actively recruit students into domestic terrorism organizations such as Antifa.
It is crucial that President Trump knows he has widespread support from the American people

As all of this is about to go down, it is crucial that President Trump knows he has widespread support from the American people to take the actions necessary to defend this nation from its domestic enemies.
We the People will be tasked with supporting these efforts as Trump works to clean house and root out the treasonous traitors who are conspiring to destroy this great nation.
If we all succeed, we may once again restore democracy and the rule of law to America. If we fail, America falls to the authoritarian tyrants, and the nation will be deliberately dismantled and fed to the globalists.
We are now fighting for our lives. We are blessed to have Donald J. Trump as our President as America faces off against treasonous actors, deep state traitors and authoritarian globalists who despise this nation and what it stands for.
Be ready to literally fight for our survival and the defense of our nation. The end game has arrived, and California will be the front lines in the coming war.

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[Gracy]

Posted by Gracy May (here)
I reckon a question for Mike Adams could be, doesn't he think the President still has the ability to simply initiate a conference call with these people? I dunno, maybe he's gotten word from a super secret inside source that the coup is so nearly complete, the democrat deep state has so infiltrated everything, that Trump can't even get a secure line any more?

Maybe I need to take a crash course in Morse Code, start watching his eye movements for any hidden messages to the DoD like a POW might do, now that the cat is out of the bag that he's communicating with his top people in this manner.

Seriously, do we really now need specialized people to decode Trump speeches, just like we need them to decode Q drops?

Posted by T Smith (here)
Hi Gracy, I imagine this article troubles you on many levels as Mike Adams addresses head-on many of the concerns you raise in these discussions. I've noticed his commentary and analysis of late speaks directly to your thread here.

First off, nice post T Smith.

Yes, of course there are other aspects to what Mike Adams (and a host of others) is saying more and more as thing really gets rolling, that concern me, but in this particular case it really was just his "translation" of Trump's speech that I was pointing to, which I found utterly ridiculous. I think we need to be real careful here to not gobble up everything any one person says, just because we're usually in agreement with them and on the same team.

I'm glad you saw that too by the way, "hyperbole" was a fitting description.

Posted by T Smith (here)
That said, I wouldn't characterize the deep state as democrat; there are also many republican actors entrenched in the swamp and many who are not even affiliated with party or elected to office--but yes, to answer your question as bluntly as possible, those implicated, (d), (r), or other, either by payoff, bribery, extortion, blackmail or other means of corruption and control have infiltrated nearly every power center of government.

I gotcha. I put it that way for various reasons. I see deep state often referred to here as "the deep state dems", it's almost always pointed out that democrats are the problem, the only politicians ever referred to here or quoted are right wing, and when I watch the videos or read their quotes, they're always railing against democrat corruption.

Then we have all the favorite commentators, the talking heads, that are regular food for fodder to rail against deep, deep state corruption. They're all right wingers, and they all rail on and on (like their right wing political companions), about almost nothing except for democrat corruption.

Then we have the President himself, more and more as time goes on railing against democrats, and democrat corruption, while constantly during the campaign urging people to vote republican.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm by no means saying any of this is bad, I just think it needs to be recognized.

Every now and then I see a bit of lip service about how it's not really all about the democrats, republicans are corrupt too, but then no sooner have I seen that it's right back to democrat bad, democrat bad, democrat bad (which is true!), but then their companion corrupt republicans are soon long forgotten about.

So I do appreciate that you see deep republican corruption right along with democrat corruption, just notice as you peruse the forum how often you will see the corruption laid out in balance in the manner you did so. I mean, now Newt Gingrich is being held on high. Omg really? Newt Gingrich? I don't know who's a slimier swamp creature, him, or Nancy Pelosi...

Let me try and be more concise in this, because I too hate getting mired in this party that party kind of thing as well, I fully agree they both suck. It's much more accurate to put it Left vs. Right.

The Left is demonized relentlessly here, but nobody saying that wants to be associated with the Right, right? Okay, fair enough, for the sake of argument let's say every flag waving Trump supporter here is Libertarian through and through, this whole Trump thing is one vast Libertarian movement, and this forum is riding right in the thick of it. Go Libertarian Movement!

But here's the thing: as I pointed out above, every politician hailed here is Right wing, every talking head is Right wing, and even every Twitter commentator is Right wing. So where are the Libertarian ideas, the Libertarian commentators, when the movement needs them most? I never even see mention of Ron Paul or Daniel McAdams!

One can walk around all day sporting a Libertarian t shirt for all I care, but if every idea person they follow is a Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Dan Bongino, Ben Shapiro type, and they pigeon hole their news sources to places like OAN and Newsmax, and Epoch Times, how am I suppose to interpret that as anything but the person is really into the Right wing school of thought? At least with the topics that concern us here these days.

So anyway, just my own personal opinions and observations here. Not saying any of this is bad, just noticing what I notice and sharing it. If you think I'm wandering around lost in deep left field somewhere, do let me know!

I love you guys whatever our differences may be!

[greybeard]

Post 952 is scary Viking. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1394525)

Not being in the USA I cant say how big a problem illegal immigration is or how much it is to blame for the current situation.
The essence of the post is a bit much for me.
I get arrest the main perpetrators but I pray for balance.
Chris

[Ernie Nemeth]

I was trying to explain this to my daughter yesterday.

The way I got through, finally, is by demonstrating how the deep state and the chicoms, with the cooperation of the mainstream news and big tech, is silencing half the story.

For over four years we have heard nothing but the 'hate trump' message. It no longer matters what is proven or not proven, the masses will always and forever hate trump.

But it is worse than that. By presenting the 'hate trump' message as the only honorable and right mode of thinking...the majority has been vilified by a minority of misfits and the marginalized - and their deep state and chicom masters.

Still not understood, I had to supply an example. Imagine the average Joe, because I am one but could easily be the average Jane, works hard all day to pay the bills. He comes home grabs a beer and plops himself down in front of the TV. It does not matter what channel he tunes in or what subjects interest him, he will be bombarded on a quarter hour basis by the 'message'. The message will be delivered both out in the open in news and opinion pieces, those thirty second news blurbs that is the staple of most citizens, and in every show, movie, and reality TV episode in a subliminal way in the comments of the actors and media stars. It is insidious and effective.

Then Joe goes to work. At break or during the course of the day Joe will interact with his coworkers. They will have also watched the same shows and heard the same 'message'. And the talk, minus the niceties, goes like this. Heard about trump, asshole did it again. Ya, says the coworker, I hate trump. Me too, I hate trump. We all hate trump laughs his coworkers.

At the end of the day, Joe goes home for another round of conditioning.

And this has gone on for four years. This is a psychological coup, planned and operated by the communist chinese party and coming whole out of their playbook. Their subversion of the free world is almost a fait acompli now, with biden trudging around claiming his treasonous office of the president elect as official.

And the same tactic they used to get so many to hate trump by just continually saying to 'hate trump', they have done with the green new deal, covid, and now the newest 'there is no evidence of fraud'. The 'there is no evidence of fraud' is said while the evidence of fraud continues to mount. Yet there is still no evidence of fraud.

Only the brainwashed masses could swallow so many bitter pills without a peep of protest.

And so now the patriots, who think they are in the minority because of their isolation and how their side is not being given equal play, are starting to despair, which is the final part of the coup. It is now only the patriots who can save the day. It is only they who have not been enthralled by the massive propaganda campaign for the new world order. But as they experience more and more insanity from the brainwashed masses, their resolve is slipping. Their faith is faltering. And this is also calculated by design.

I have long ago educated my daughter about such tactics, that are used and have been used ever since she and even I were born. She understood the concept. She understood the coup plot. But she's got her own concerns and they do not reach past her kids and her dream home being built...

(I've lost her because of her husband, an immigrant from Brazil, whose one goal in life is to live the North American dream as lavishly as he can afford. Good for Canadian business and government, bad for the environment, and bad for those seeking another way when there are those coming here that want the old way - that perpetuate the inequality by their own largess.)[I should say that his 'bad' qualities are far outweighed by the good. He is a great dad and hard worker, and he is the penultimate family man.]

So I told her that internment camps have been built all around the country but no one knows what for. And I told her that soon they would begin the propaganda of the vaccine and the repercussions of not getting it. No word of sending people to those newly built internment camps yet, but just today came the announcement that those who do not receive the shot will have their ability to travel seriously curtailed - and possibly find getting employment difficult or impossible. And so it begins. It won't be long before the true reason for those internment camps are explained...

And so it is. There is no conspiracy. There is no evidence of fraud. Both the winner and the looser in this election gained the highest vote counts in history, but don't get concerned, it's just an anomaly, a 'glitch', a human error. Covid is a death sentence. The vaccine is safe - even though 1 in 10,000 will die from it and you need to take it every four months (it's like playing 'russian roulette' with a 10000 round capacity gun! - leave just one bullet in the chamber, pretty good odds really ). The green new deal will save the planet. Their is no chinese conspiracy. Biden and his family are not crooks. And on and on...

[Tintin]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...095884800?s=20

However, I am more persuaded by the 98% Biden ballots at around the same time.
Lots of aggregated info in this article.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...sharingbuttons


alternative points and views coming in


https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...052063747?s=20

https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...439570949?s=20

But isn't the audio from a witness in the election hearing? (listen again here maybe) Debunking claims are just a decoy here, surely.

[Satori]

Unfortunately, and as has been the case for at least 100 years in the USA (and I'm confident this is true in most countries), the American public is given the so-called choice of voting (setting aside the issue of vote fraud and one's vote actually being deleted or cast for the opposition candidate) for, as they say: "the lesser of two evils" or "the evil or two lessers." (We will also set aside for now any discussion on how it came to be that the two viable candidates for office of POTUS are whittled down from a field of 12, more or less, from each party, none of whom the People had any say, or played any role, in placing into contention for the office of POTUS.)

I have no doubt that in 2016 many, many votes for Trump were actually votes against Clinton and not really for Trump. In 2016 the voting public, on average, did not want either person occupying the office of POTUS. But what choice did We, The People, have? In the end, Trump prevailed.

In 2020 I more fervently believe and have no doubt that the vast majority of American voters did in fact actually vote for Trump and not just against Biden, and that Trump won the 2020 election by a substantial margin. I believe the vast majority of voters did not, and do not want, Biden et al. occupying the office of POTUS. The purported results of the 2020 election, all refuted by the compelling evidence to the contrary, and the proclamations from the MSM that Biden is the President elect, do not dissuade me in the least from my convictions . In fact, these considerations make me believe this to be true and solidify my convictions even more so.

I think we all recognize and understand that voter and election fraud did not first appear on the scene in 2020. In the USA, or any where else on Spaceship Earth. Fraud has been around in one form or another since mankind began to walk the Earth. It has just become more sophisticated and pervasive in its scope, breath and effectiveness over time. (Thank you technology. Not!)

But, among other things, in view of the numerous failed attempts to destroy Trump prior to 2020, it is clear that this time around it was the Democratic party and their handlers, having lost the steal in 2016 and being determined ever since to not lose the steal in 2020, carried out the steal at a level heretofore not seen in the USA. And steal it they did. For this reason the focus in 2020 is where it rightly belongs: on the so-called Democrat party and its handlers.

In the long term, should our Republic survive this round of anti-Constitutional and criminal conduct (and I believe it will), the focus must be on true, meaningful election reform and, in the process, on a parallel track of routing the criminals out of positions of public trust. They, none of them, or at least very few of them (whoever they are), can be trusted--they have shown this to be true time and time and time again. This is true as to both the Democrat and Republican party, as well as other struggling, but heretofore impotent, parties seeking national recognition. These people wielding the reigns and levers of power and control, all of them, whether elected, appointed, anointed or revered by some status to which they have been elevate, must go and we must start anew.

To be clear, I am not suggesting in the least that the ideals of this Republic and the beliefs and values upon which it is founded must be scrapped. To the contrary and far from it. The ideals, and may institutions of this Republic, are just fine and suitable for their purpose. It is those who occupy the various institutions who are at the root of the problems. They are the weak links in the various chains that hold the Republic together.

Reform is necessary and long over due, but reform must be done in a lawful and orderly fashion. To do that requires that We, The People, get off our butts, turn off the TV, use the internet and social media responsibly (if at all, and only as necessary, and for as long as it lasts), communicate effectively, wisely and respectfully with our neighbors, our communities, our cities and townships, and our regions all the way to the top of the national apparatus.

We, The People, must stand for what is right and stop abdicating our civic duties and we must stop now, if not sooner. Voting every election cycle is not the answer and never was. To be sure, voting on election day is not the end of our civic responsibilities, it is merely a part, and not at all, or even remotely, the most important part. In a Republic operating under democratic principles, voting is necessary, but its is in no way sufficient.

We must forthwith identify, conscript into duty, and elect honest people with integrity into positions of trust at the local, regional and national governmental levels. Then, We, The People, must thereafter be ever vigilant and ride rough herd over, zealously and religiously every step of the way, day in and day out, the people in whom we have placed our sacred trust, and who stand as fiduciaries to us, We, The People. That is at a minimum our civic duty. The absence or failure of which, gives those who would breach our trust the latitude they need to steal, not only elections, but everything else and thereby enrich themselves to the detriment and ruin of, and usurp and gain more and more power and control over, We, The People.

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Posted by greybeard (here)
Post 952 is scary Viking. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1394525)

Not being in the USA I cant say how big a problem illegal immigration is or how much it is to blame for the current situation.
The essence of the post is a bit much for me.
I get arrest the main perpetrators but I pray for balance.
Chris

I agree.
Not listened to all of Mike's message as I am not convinced Trump would go down that road unless all other options were exhausted.
But it seems that message has been warped further by darkpost inline with some prejudice. I definitely don't see that scenario playing out myself.

[Ascension]

Coincidence or message?

https://www.wtoc.com/2020/12/04/dead...-hours-friday/

Harrison Deal was killed in car accident in Georgia, on I-16 in Pooler. He is the boyfriend of Governor Kemp’s daughter and staffer for Senator Kelly Loeffer. Governor Kemp just called for the signature audit of ballots hours earlier. Look at the amount of damage to the vehicles involved. Three cars on fire and Harrison was the only one who couldn’t get out.

[T Smith]

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Posted by mountain_jim (here)
https://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/...095884800?s=20

...Debunking claims are just a decoy here, surely.

Good God. Really? These propagandists are relentless.

What is going on here is really very simple, folks. Read it, study it, learn it. Watch the movie. Over and over. Read the play and any rendition of it you can find.

My head is spinning.

We the People despirately need to develop an immunity to this type of psychological abuse.