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    In the most general terms, if an alien power such as China were seeking to build some kind of an empire, then an alternative, or an additional measure, to taking sides and favouring one party would be to foment internal discord in a given country, possibly leading to civil strife or national self-harm, thereby taking that country out as an effective player. While such action would be specific to the strengths and weaknesses of any given country, a common underlying pattern would emerge if it were happening in more than one place. What is happening in the UK, while very different, is having the same effect of totally undermining that nation’s influence, while also weakening the EU.

    If so, the above can be achieved regardless of who is in power; in the UK the Conservatives have been governing for ten years; to extend their shelf life, their party has been tweaked into something different from before. When they say no deal is a great opportunity for new markets, and people wonder What new markets?, the unmentionable answer may be: China.
    In the US, it appears to many that China wants a return to government for the current opposition. However, in order to create maximum civil strife, it would be more useful to ensure that the more popular party – whichever it may be – is thwarted in the elections, and not just lose but do so through patent fraud.

    The question then becomes, whose side are you on? Most, especially of course Americans, will be on the side of the USA: if not on the side of the politicians, then on the side of the Constitution. This will be facilitated by presenting the Chinese as mad communists out to destroy their country. The point being that if we were to see the good and bad guys the other way round, then it would still be in China’s interest to play along with being mad communists out to destroy the US, e.g. by backing Biden and his gang.

    This is totally counter-intuitive and sounds perfectly crazy. But if I were a white hat in charge of China, it would make sense to me. That Chinese economist explaining on Chinese TV how things were and will be easier with the Democrats: do you think that was a big security breach, to be taken at face value? No way: it was a message to the American people, which rather changes the meaning. China is not the evil enemy, any more than the USA is China’s evil enemy. What we do know however is that the manifestation of evil that is in the current consciousness is rampant in America and the UK, and it is in these countries that action has to be taken. China is not the evil enemy: it is simply fed up with providing the sweatshops for the western world: why would it align itself with the people responsible for this situation? On the contrary its strategy is on the side of change.

    I would not claim any of the above to be objectively correct. The point is simply to underline how little East Asians are understood in the West even today. When I started this post by mentioning an “alien power” when actually referring to China, the suggestion of something coming from further afield was relevant in the sense that we have enough strange humans on this planet without introducing anyone else into the mix. The Chinese may or may not be morally in a better place than the West, that remains to be seen; but either way, we do know that our problems are created and can be resolved right here.

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    one of the direct results of the declaration of a Biden win was to empower, give voice and essentially "legitimize" aggressive, subversion laced with thinly veiled threats as well as a CLEAR distinction between those who WILL RULE (the "Masters") and those who WILL BE their "Subjects" (their slaves)

    numerous examples of the double standard have arisen, with less and less effort put into even pretending that a concern exists on their part to follow the laws and restrictions imposed upon the American Public

    they are "testing" boundaries

    and EACH digression that is "allowed"

    and make no mistake, when an infraction occurs?
    and the people do NOT rise up to end the injustice (tyrannical oppression)?

    it IS the PEOPLE who have ALLOWED this to be so:

    here is just the very latest on a very long list of disparities that the American people are being asked to simply, obediently accept:

    After Andrew Cuomo shuts down NY restaurants again, he's having a birthday fundraiser 12/17 with Whoopie Goldberg, Rosie Perez and Ben Stiller no less ... at least it helps us to ID the perpetrators and their cohorts i guess.

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    Here is one man's response to tyrannical oppression:


    i'm not sure why Tweet isn't displaying for me, just in case? here is the link itself:
    https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/statu...77675872722945

    thank you sir .. thank you
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    Mod note from Bill:

    Folks, I've cross-posted this on all five major US election threads running now: (numbered in order of the # of posts, nothing more)
    1. MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits to come
    2. 2020 Presidential Election—and its Aftermath
    3. US Election results still coming in (erratically!)
    4. From Stillness into a Trump Victory
    5. US Election: the Legal Challenge
    I think there are 3 main topics, but even those overlap. Many people post videos or articles that address all 3 of those at once. So it's not always clear where any particular post should go. We really understand this, and no-one's being censured here.
    1. Legal questions and issues.
    2. Fraud allegations and evidence.
    3. What may be next??
    4. (and a little separately) The From Stillness into a Trump Victory thread stands alone, but some posts there do need to be moved.
    So this note is just to say two things:
    • Please think for a moment about where your new post might best belong.
    • I intend to move some posts — if I can easily do that! — tomorrow morning US time. And the thread titles might need a little amending as well.
    Thanks for bearing with us. All we're trying to do here is make it easier to follow and contribute to particular topics, as legal actions are different from fraud claims which are different from speculations about the significant aftermath of all this.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Mod note from Bill:

    Folks, I've cross-posted this on all five major US election threads running now: (numbered in order of the # of posts, nothing more)
    1. MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits to come
    2. 2020 Presidential Election—and its Aftermath
    3. US Election results still coming in (erratically!)
    4. From Stillness into a Trump Victory
    5. US Election: the Legal Challenge
    I think there are 3 main topics, but even those overlap. Many people post videos or articles that address all 3 of those at once. So it's not always clear where any particular post should go. We really understand this, and no-one's being censured here.
    1. Legal questions and issues.
    2. Fraud allegations and evidence.
    3. What may be next??
    4. (and a little separately) The From Stillness into a Trump Victory thread stands alone, but some posts there do need to be moved.
    So this note is just to say two things:
    • Please think for a moment about where your new post might best belong.
    • I intend to move some posts — if I can easily do that! — tomorrow morning US time. And the thread titles might need a little amending as well.
    Thanks for bearing with us. All we're trying to do here is make it easier to follow and contribute to particular topics, as legal actions are different from fraud claims which are different from speculations about the significant aftermath of all this.

    Got it Bill and thank you

    if the Title here needs to be modified? the intent and focus here, is more specifically

    what HAPPENED next

    after media decided to pull a psyop on America like declaring Biden winner and continuing to run a narrative that he is President Elect

    This thread is to capture the response to that

    what actions were taken? like the TX Lawsuit, to hold rallies, "Biden proceeding to transition" and the COUNTER to that by People, Flynn etc.

    one day we will look back to a present that is enslaved

    or a future of liberation from an oppressive regime that SOUGHT to enslave us

    i'd like a record of HOW we will arrive at either point

    the steps that led to the outcome that WILL be ...

    you know my vote ...

    Freedom and Liberty for ALL

    may it sound EXACTLY like this:


    " USA USA USA!" in FREEDOM

    may God bless America!

    We should defend our way of life
    to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed,

    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    "What happens next?" Yes, what are we going to do when the stuff hits the fan, and I don't believe we have arrived at that place yet - but I'm certain we will.
    I'm meditating at night, trying to turn this stuff off in my aching head. Sort of a form of denial I suppose, going blank, focusing on breathing.
    Whatever comes next, I'm afraid we will have to take sides, or hide under the bed.
    I'm old and somewhat decrepit, but I'm not hiding under my bed. We are being messed with, and need to get our wits about us.....right now, or forget it forever.

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    Quote Posted by haroldsails (here)
    "What happens next?" Yes, what are we going to do when the stuff hits the fan, and I don't believe we have arrived at that place yet - but I'm certain we will.
    I'm meditating at night, trying to turn this stuff off in my aching head. Sort of a form of denial I suppose, going blank, focusing on breathing.
    Whatever comes next, I'm afraid we will have to take sides, or hide under the bed.
    I'm old and somewhat decrepit, but I'm not hiding under my bed. We are being messed with, and need to get our wits about us.....right now, or forget it forever.
    Hear, hear ....

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    'UNHINGED' DEM REP. URGES PELOSI
    TO BLOCK 126 REPUBLICANS FROM CONGRESS
    FOR SUPPORTING "INSURRECTION OR REBELLION"


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    SATURDAY, DEC 12, 2020 - 17:30




    On Friday, just before the Supreme Court rejected Attorney General Ken Paxton’s (R-Texas) explosive lawsuit challenging the results of the 2020 presidential election in four key swing states, Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-N.J.) asked House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to refuse to seat members of the next Congress who support President Donald Trump’s effort to challenge the election results.

    Pascrell accused the 126 Republicans who supported the Texas lawsuit of “insurrection or rebellion” - or at least, of supporting “insurrection or rebellion” - against the Constitution.

    read full article here:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...nsurrection-or

    so here's the thing .. one cannot ask for "relief" UNTIL one has suffered a loss..

    its a backwarda** "standard", nevertheless, it is one used with rare exception in legal matters ..

    so ...
    We should defend our way of life
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    so that any adversary
    will never make such an attempt in the future.

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    Quote Posted by haroldsails (here)
    "What happens next?" Yes, what are we going to do when the stuff hits the fan, and I don't believe we have arrived at that place yet - but I'm certain we will.
    I'm meditating at night, trying to turn this stuff off in my aching head. Sort of a form of denial I suppose, going blank, focusing on breathing.
    Whatever comes next, I'm afraid we will have to take sides, or hide under the bed.
    I'm old and somewhat decrepit, but I'm not hiding under my bed. We are being messed with, and need to get our wits about us.....right now, or forget it forever.

    we HAVE been

    ALL of our lives

    every time we were affronted, we CHOSE

    we either retained our power
    or gave a little bit of it away

    to help this fight
    one need not even take up arms

    in the quiet corners of our minds
    we can search for those moments when we relinquished what was ours

    and even just in imagination?

    say: "i've changed my mind"

    and RE-write that script

    what we are seeing played out externally
    TRULY is reflective of the battle waged INTERNALLY

    even if one's belief is otherwise?

    time waits for no man, right?

    let's grab one of those regrets and turn it around!

    nothing to lose
    and much relief to gain

    Quote I'm not hiding under my bed. We are being messed with, and need to get our wits about us.....right now, or forget it forever.

    MY BELIEF? > you just VOTED for liberty

    you just added to the Collective Consciousness of Freedom

    WooHoo!!

    so in advance? i thank you!

    as long as you are here? .. > your vote COUNTS
    you MATTER
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    Trump to use Presidential Power?We The People betrayed by Supreme Court | Wide Angle with Brendon

    Up until January 6th, when Congress officially counts the Electoral College votes, there’s still time to seek redress of the election “result” within the system President Trump’s attorney, Jenna Ellis, has emphasized. In this episode we take a moment to consider the deeper reasons for the rejection of the Texas lawsuit and the motives of the Supreme Court in avoiding judgement on an issue many consider well within its jurisdiction. We consider the options, including those still within the judicial system, that are now open to the Trump camp.

    America certainly faces a uniquely divisive situation at present, but it is not entirely without historical precedent, some of which might be drawn on for inspiration and understanding of the current time. The way that “We the People”—from the President, to the members of the state legislatures to the average person—choose to deal with this situation will have resounding consequences not just for America, but for the world at large.

    #SupremeCourt #MartialLaw #TrumpLegalTeam


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    "They're trying to divide us. They're trying to conquer us. We need a unifier. Trump has played the role of unifier... filling up arenas with enthusiasm & passion. That is not going to go away. Trump could be the lightning rod that really unifies a lot of Americans."

    https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/sta...63875342442497

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    Report: Kamala Harris Implicated In
    Hunter Biden China Deal


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    First Email: May 13, 2017
    This all started with an email The New York Post reported last week dated May 13, 2017:

    One email sent to Biden on May 13, 2017, with the subject line “Expectations,” included details of “remuneration packages” for six people involved in an unspecified business venture.

    Biden was identified as “Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC,” an apparent reference to the former Shanghai-based conglomerate CEFC China Energy Co.

    His pay was pegged at “850” and the email also noted that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.”

    A provisional agreement stated that four people would split 80% of the new company’s shares. Initials identified the four people, which correspond with the four people involved in the email: H, RW, JG, and TB.

    There was also 10 for Jim and “10 held by H for the big guy.”

    We found out this morning “the big guy” is Joe Biden.

    Email Sent May 15, 2017
    Fox News wrote that this email is not connected to Hunter’s laptop, which is the location of the emails reported by The New York Post.

    I do not know how Fox News received this email.

    This email comes from Jim Biden. He sent it to those in the May 13 email, which means it is obviously connected:

    An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”

    The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.

    The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.

    It is unclear if any of the Democrats were ever contacted about the “target projects.”

    Hopefully, Fox News or The New York Post will release another email that can give us more context of this phase one email.

    article:
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    Today National File also ran the following piece:

    MEMO:
    Kamala Harris Implicated in Hunter Biden’s
    China Energy Company Scheme


    by FRANK SALVATO December 12, 2020

    Mainstream media’s suppression of the Hunter Biden Scandal allowed Harris to fly under the radar about any possible connection to the Biden Family influence scandal



    In a story that received next to zero coverage in the mainstream media, an internal email/memo from Democrat presidential hopeful Joe Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, to the hierarchy of SinoHawk Holdings, the partnership between the CEFC China Energy Company (CEFC) and the Biden family, cataloged a rich list of “key contacts” that included then-US Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), and other high-level Democrats and Progressives.

    The memo was sent from Jim Biden to James Gilliar, Tony Bobulinski, Hunter Biden, and Rob Walker with the subject line, “Phase One Domestic Contacts/Project.”


    The “key contacts” listed in the memo outlining associations for Biden family business venture projects included:

    The “key contacts” listed in the memo outlining associations for Biden family business venture projects included:
    • Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)
    • Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
    • Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
    • Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
    • Former US Senior Senator Al Franken (D-MN)
    • Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
    • California Governor Gavin Newsome (D)
    • New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D)
    • Former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe (D)
    • Former Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton (D)
    • Former California Governor Jerry Brown (D)
    • New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio(D)
    • Mayor of Los Angeles Eric Garcetti (D)

    As a byproduct of the mainstream media’s willful refusal to cover the story, Harris was never made to address the issue, let alone answer any probing questions into her possible relationship with the Bidens in this matter.

    Hunter Biden’s business associations with several Communist Chinese nationals, according to the Senate Homeland Security and Senate Finance committees, have “resulted in millions of dollars in questionable transactions.”

    As part of an investigation conducted by the committees targeting Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings, it was also discovered that Hunter Biden opened a bank account with Gongwen Dong, whom he described as an “emissary” for Ye Jianming, the chairman of CEFC, which bankrolled a $100,000 international spending binge with his uncle, Jim Biden.

    Hunter Biden, admitted in a statement this week, that the US Attorney’s Office in Delaware has an active investigation ongoing into his “tax affairs.”

    A government source with intimate knowledge of the matter told reporters that Hunter Biden is a subject/target of the grand jury investigation, indicating that the investigation is focused on the commission of a crime."

    article here:
    https://nationalfile.com/memo-kamala...ompany-scheme/

    more sources:
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ture-in-china/
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    Trump with the military, did you see that?

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    It strikes me as odd that the Trump forces have no arrows in their quivers beyond telling the average Trump supporter to rise up. Qanon's response is to play a video of "We're Not Gonna Take It." Trump saw the Big Steal coming before it happened and did not prevent it. He launched a few lawsuits that were quickly shut down. I wonder if the Trump loss is part of the script for a colour revolution agenda in America, with Trump a willy nilly participant?
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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    It strikes me as odd that the Trump forces have no arrows in their quivers beyond telling the average Trump supporter to rise up. Qanon's response is to play a video of "We're Not Gonna Take It." Trump saw the Big Steal coming before it happened and did not prevent it. He launched a few lawsuits that were quickly shut down. I wonder if the Trump loss is part of the script for a colour revolution agenda in America, with Trump a willing or unwilling participant?
    Trump supporters see graphs and videos detailing massive, obvious fraud. Trump attorneys lose in court on procedural questions and the f word is never mentioned. Country divided down the middle and on lines of geography, race, urban/rural etc. Spark an uprising via a three year info leak to one side whilst mainstream media demonises it, Biden steps down due to ill health, Dem's call it a military coup, appeal for UN help to restore democracy, remove the 2nd amendment on grounds of national security and disarm the US populace, then conclude events show how dangerous a divided world is and coronavirus/global warming mean that problems have to be solved at global level. Global population branded and vaccinated. Job done. Maybe somewhere in there Obama answers call of Senator Harris for experienced help, so he can be a part of change we can believe in...

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    the WORLD EXCLUSIVE ~
    will be FRONT page news of every major newspaper this morning ...

    the FIRST EVER LEAK of a COMMUNIST PARTY DATABASE


    13/12/2020|7min ago

    A major leak containing a register with the details of nearly two million CCP members has occurred – exposing members who are now working all over the world, while also lifting the lid on how the party operates under Xi Jinping, says Sharri Markson.

    Ms Markson said the leak is a register with the details of Communist Party members, including their names, party position, birthday, national ID number and ethnicity.

    “It is believed to be the first leak of its kind in the world,” the Sky News host said.

    “What's amazing about this database is not just that it exposes people who are members of the communist party, and who are now living and working all over the world, from Australia to the US to the UK,” Ms Markson said.

    “But it's amazing because it lifts the lid on how the party operates under President and Chairman Xi Jinping”.

    Ms Markson said the leak demonstrates party branches are embedded in some of the world’s biggest companies and even inside government agencies.

    “Communist party branches have been set up inside western companies, allowing the infiltration of those companies by CCP members - who, if called on, are answerable directly to the communist party, to the Chairman, the president himself,” she said.

    “Along with the personal identifying details of 1.95 million communist party members, mostly from Shanghai, there are also the details of 79,000 communist party branches, many of them inside companies”.

    Ms Markson said the leak is a significant security breach likely to embarrass Xi Jinping.

    “It is also going to embarrass some global companies who appear to have no plan in place to protect their intellectual property from theft. From economic espionage,” she said.

    Ms Markson said the data was extracted from a Shanghai server by Chinese dissidents, whistleblowers, in April 2016, who have been using it for counter-intelligence purposes.

    “It was then leaked in mid-September to the newly-formed international bi-partisan group, the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China- and that group is made up of 150 legislators around the world.

    “It was then provided to an international consortium of four media organisations, The Australian, The Sunday Mail in the UK, De Standaard in Belgium and a Swedish editor, to analyse over the past two months, and that's what we've done".

    Ms Markson said it, “is worth noting that there's no suggestion that these members have committed espionage - but the concern is over whether Australia or these companies knew of the CCP members and if so have any steps been taken to protect their data and people”.

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    World Tribune Reports some of the reactions to SCOTUS recent decision

    SCOTUS blinked, Texas did not


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    Following are responses to the December 11, 2020 U.S. Supreme Court decision.

    Allen West, Chairman of the Texas GOP:

    The Supreme Court, in tossing the Texas lawsuit that was joined by seventeen states and 106 US congressman, have decreed that a state can take unconstitutional actions and violate its own election law. … This decision establishes a precedent that says states can violate the US constitution and not be held accountable. This decision will have far reaching ramifications for the future of our constitutional republic. Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.”

    Mark Levin, Talk show host on Facebook, Dec. 11:

    The irony of the Supreme Court’s latest duck is that, in the end, it may have ruined itself — that is, if the Democrats take both Senate seats in Georgia, and Biden is sworn in as presidents, Schumer has made clear his intent to destroy the Court as an independent institution. Consequently, the Court’s unwillingness to even hear significant challenges will boomerang.

    Evan Sayet, Author, comedian, columnist

    Keep in mind, the Leftist didn’t come to power in academia and elsewhere through the power of their thoughts. They LITERALLY set off bombs, kidnapped, raped and killed people, put guns to the heads of university presidents and burned down cities. To take back America, it’s not going to be enough to write clever articles or excel in thoughtful debate. We’re going to have to do things that good people don’t normally do. We don’t have to BE them but to defeat them we can no longer pretend we’re dealing with our well-intentioned colleagues, neighbors and friends.

    [Journalism students are invited to assess the objectivity of news “ledes” from media reports below]:
    AP, Mainstream media news service

    The Supreme Court on Friday rejected a lawsuit backed by President Donald Trump to overturn Joe Biden’s election victory, ending a desperate attempt to get legal issues rejected by state and federal judges before the nation’s highest court and subvert the will of voters.

    CNN, Regarded as generic news by airports, many businesses

    During the past four years, President Donald Trump has challenged the integrity of the Supreme Court and tried to drag the justices into the legal muck with him.His arguments have pushed the boundaries of the law and his assertions have tested the impartiality of individual justices. But Trump’s meritless attack on the November election and his loss to Joe Biden in a brazen lawsuit initiated by the Texas attorney general brought the court into a wholly new realm.The high court slapped down the case promoted by Trump on Friday, three days before the Electoral College will meet to cast votes for Biden as the winner of the November election, with no noted dissents.

    NY Times, Once regarded as the international newspaper of record

    The Supreme Court on Friday rejected a lawsuit by Texas that had asked the court to throw out the election results in four battleground states that President Trump lost in November, ending any prospect that a brazen attempt to use the courts to reverse his defeat at the polls would succeed. The court, in a brief unsigned order, said Texas lacked standing to pursue the case, saying it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections.”
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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)

    I think Mike Adams has lost his friggin mind.

    That, was yet another example of unhinged hyperbole IMO. Ozzy's "Diary of a Madman" started going through my mind reading that, and anyone who excitedly chooses to race down that road with him (and others), is going to find themselves joining him in a very very dark place, a dark place you may never be able to emerge from.
    In Mike Adams defense, he does say he doesn't advocate racing down that road (using your words, not his), but is rather just analyzing what he believes is inevitable. I would agree he has a hard time quelling his adrenaline-ridden presentations, which do come off as a person excited about the fight, but staring at the 25 minute mark here he disclaims he doesn't advocate what he is describing. He rather seems resigned to its inevitability.

    It seems to me his hyperbole derives mostly from an exacerbated and impassioned (and adrenaline-spiked) analysis of a very alarming conflict on the horizon. Might this be a judgment where we're shooting the messenger?

    It's interesting to observe the fight or flight mechanism and the degree of recognizing existential danger in those who view the same set of circumstances so differently. In this case there appears to be a third dynamic as well: fight, flight, or embrace....

    In any event, there are a lot of people--I would estimate millions--who recognize an existential danger to the American Republic given the crossroads we're on right now, and many of them, like Adams, are in fight mode if no systemic remedy allows for a change of course. So regardless if we condemn Adams analysis as a madman's response, I think it would be wrong to put our heads in the sand and pretend this sect of the fight, flight, or embrace contingent are unhinged fanatics. In my estimation it's very real. And very dangerous.

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    I think Mike Adams has lost his friggin mind.

    That, was yet another example of unhinged hyperbole IMO. Ozzy's "Diary of a Madman" started going through my mind reading that, and anyone who excitedly chooses to race down that road with him (and others), is going to find themselves joining him in a very very dark place, a dark place you may never be able to emerge from.
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    In Mike Adams defense, he does say he doesn't advocate racing down that road (using your words, not his), but is rather just analyzing what he believes is inevitable. I would agree he has a hard time quelling his adrenaline-ridden presentations, which do come off as a person excited about the fight, but staring at the 25 minute mark here he disclaims he doesn't advocate what he is describing. He rather seems resigned to its inevitability.

    It seems to me his hyperbole derives mostly from an exacerbated and impassioned (and adrenaline-spiked) analysis of a very alarming conflict on the horizon. Might this be a judgment where we're shooting the messenger?
    Why Mr. Smith, a pleasure bumping into you again.

    To me anyway, that tiny little disclaimer is the same kind of plausible deniability stunt I see often. Lay out exactly how you want things to be, describe in detail what can and should be done about it, and then flippantly toss in the old "not that I'm advocating for any of this..." I always get the mental picture of a circus clown going "honk honk wink wink" when I hear that.

    From everything I've seen he's stating an awful lot of subjective opinions as objective fact. He's seeing what he wants to see when saying the judiciary, legislative, executive, the republic, the Constitution, and law and order, are lost and gone, and that we are now heading into a socialist hell hole. A lot of mental and spiritual gymnastics has to go into painting that picture, as undeniable fact.

    This is exactly what I've been pointing to, this is where the "us and them" mentality kicks in. Anyone, including every judge in the nation that doesn't agree Trump is the rightful president, is one of "them". They are all either in on it, or severely compromised by the CCP, Iran, Venezuela, or whatever any other boogeyman we care to pull out of the hat.

    Confirmation bias is very much in play here. People were so sure Trump would win in a landslide that it just can't possibly be true he actually lost to a candidate as inept as Joe Biden. So we start working our way backwards from our conclusion, looking for evidence along to way to support it.

    Quote "Not even the judiciary, across the board, sees this evidence as absolute, undeniable proof that Trump was robbed and the election should be overturned? Then they must be in on it too. They're all in on it!"
    Well then from there, the only logical conclusions left are that Trump himself must save his own presidency (I mean the republic...), through the very same drastic actions that in days gone by we all used to worry and warn about.

    Quote "Bring on martial law, bring on the military to our streets, round 'em up!"
    Omg, really???

    I think good people can be turned into unhinged fanatics, not like we haven't seen the phenomena throughout history. Mob mentality is tricky, and can be very contagious.

    Quote "I'm not part of an angry mob in search of scalps, I'm one with the sword in the right hand of almighty God himself come to bring truth, justice, and the American way back to this great nation. Every move I make is therefore justified".
    I'm still not quite sure if the door to Pandora's Box has been cracked open yet or not, but if we keep barreling down this path unmitigated, it will surely be flung wide open. And then there's no reeling it back in, only a matter of time til we start seeing scenes like this play out:

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    Disturbing, and it's the Republicans being accused of inflammatory rhetoric?


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