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    The global economy is dominated by around 500 super-connected, multinational corporations, and their wealth grows through a combination of financial speculation and increasing sales of goods and services worldwide. They also control much of media and even pharma.

    Given that, depopulation obviously works against them, as that would mean lower economic activity: capitalism requires the opposite. If so, then what they want is probably manageable population increase, e.g., the use of vaccines and medicine to profit but also to minimize the effects of disease, thus making more people productive workers and happy consumers.
    Yeah some people really assume/believe it is "only about profit" and "lower the risks" mantra which can easily be debunked on so many levels it is not funny anymore.

    Not to mention what corporatism really is about and how Quantum A.I. really is affecting us all ... and will do so so much more coming decades that is (partially) already happening.

    How they cheat (robbing) our pension money funds worldwide for a reason! ... You not suppose to live longer as they assume they can not pay that anymore to be alive ... the fiat (pyramid ponzi scheme) money system is collapsing and they know it ... there IS a very very corrupt "transition" to cover up what really happened to all of us.

    If anyone tries to analyze/asses "logical motives" using mainstream media talking points perspectives (heavily guarded & controlled narratives) they LAUGH at you that you are so easily "convinced" you "solved" the riddle for them and us.

    So you made a new account on Project Avalon use a obnoxious avatar some one holding a gun pointing at something or someone and smiling and almost all your contributions seems more like mainstream talking points posing as "semi critical thinking" we already heard/read from all kinds of fake accounts on Youtube, Twitter, Facebook etc.

    <<< why using this avatar picture @ralfy? What is the story behind this?


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    It's not only about profit because the profit is gained through a combination of financial speculation plus increasing sales of goods and services. In short, the goal is not just profit but continuous economic growth, which is what we've been seeing the past six decades and the goal of every economy. If any, that's the main reason why the global population tripled from 1945 to the present.

    They cheat by using pension funds when they get into trouble, which is what happened with Enron and others. Otherwise, they are bailed out by government because government and the populace works for them. Last 2012, it was estimated that the bailouts for the U.S. alone totaled over $16 trillion, and mostly unaudited.

    The reason for such frivolous use of credit is that it can be created easily. Thus, the ponzi scheme that alarms you is chump change compared to a global, unregulated derivatives market with a notional value of over $1 quadrillion dollars. Only a trillion dollars of that were needed to bring the world to its knees in 2008; expect more where that came from.

    Now, I have no idea why you are so obsessed with isolating yourself from mainstream media when much of that plus social platforms, not to mention the hardware and infrastructure needed to keep them propped up (and practically everything online), involves the same elite. It's as if you imagine that you can live and even thrive in an industrialized world without corporate statism, fiat currencies, etc. That can't happen because industrialization involves such phenomena, just as the elite believe that they can stay underground for years, come out, and have the same lifestyles with almost no human beings around.

    Of course, there's corruption among the highest ranks. Are you imagining that the opposite can ever take place?

    I don't dismiss conspiracy theories, but I don't think all of them make sense.

    Finally, you don't have to overread everything: the avatar I use is simply one of several given free for the early Fallout computer games. They're about a world that experienced nuclear holocaust and other disasters, with survivors living for decades in large vaults underground, and waiting for the air to clear. The blonde youngster in the avatar is Pipboy, who appears in a watch used in the game, and represents various attributes in role playing. Some examples:

    Pipboy's Child Killer reputation icon from

    https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Childkiller



    Pipboy's Made Man reputation icon:



    In which case, I hope you are not offended by what are nothing more than cartoons used in a game.

    Finally, FWIW, those who want to know a bit more about the games might consider the following short intros:

    The first game:



    The second game:



    BTW, for those who find the narrator's voice in the first game familiar, it's the actor Ron Pearl.

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    The global economy is dominated by around 500 super-connected, multinational corporations, and their wealth grows through a combination of financial speculation and increasing sales of goods and services worldwide. They also control much of media and even pharma.

    Given that, depopulation obviously works against them, as that would mean lower economic activity: capitalism requires the opposite. If so, then what they want is probably manageable population increase, e.g., the use of vaccines and medicine to profit but also to minimize the effects of disease, thus making more people productive workers and happy consumers.
    Then why does Bill Gates advocate depopulation?
    Why would he do that? The bulk of his wealth is credit--more than $120 billion--and all that will be useless with no global economy and world population. And what about the large parcels of farm land that he bought in the U.S.? Will he be making robots that will make even more robots that will do everything that humans should do while he and his fellow elite relax and enjoy themselves?

    Depopulation makes no sense whatsoever to a global elite whose power lies essentially in credit.

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    Maybe because capitalism/wealth (fake or not)/etc is not their target at all but only the means to achieve their goals
    What are those goals? You can't answer, "to depopulate the earth," because that's the means towards those goals, right?

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    Bill Gates is a physcopath , Here's a story for you about him I found the other day . NAVY SEALs STORM Gates’ Wyoming Ranch https://realrawnews.com/2021/05/navy...wyoming-ranch/ . I cannot verify this story but with Gates hanging around Epstein and then his wife finally throwing in the towel I figured there was much more going on than a marital spat. The pieces are all coming together and perhaps Melinda baby knows more on the de-population scheme of Mr Bill too. Sounds like a bunch of mad scientists hanging out trying to figure how to off a bunch of us and having fun doing it. There's no telling what they are capable of , we just need to be one step ahead and take nothing for granted when we see the train coming down the tracks.

    wow.... when I looked at your link yesterday it said it wasn't available.... a 503 error (think it was 503)..

    so I checked just now and was able to read it --- let's for talking sake say all of this is true and it very well could be - how fascinating that Melinda Gates would go to Trump for help... but when you think about it he is the only person with that level of power that can be trusted... and he is known for hunting down child traffickers and pedophiles even though the 'Enemy of the People' MSM studiously ignored that to protect their own...

    here's the article in case it becomes unavailable again... Bill Gates is such a creepy dangerous character Melinda had better watch her back -

    Quote Less than two weeks after Bill and Melinda Gates called it quits, U.S. Navy SEALs stormed a Gates’ owned property in northwest Wyoming and clashed with security forces Gates had hired to protect the 492-acre ranch.

    The U.S. military approved the raid after Gates’ estranged wife, Melinda, contacted Donald J. Trump with news that Bill, whom she called a psychopathic, evil genius, had visited Epstein Island 24 times between 1997-2017 and, on Epstein’s advice, had spent $36,000,000 to excavate his own subterranean “child dungeon” beneath Irma Lake Lodge.

    A confidential source involved in Trump’s Deep State War told Real Raw News that Gates’ friendship with the convicted pedophile was the catalyst for Bill and Melinda’s divorce. Melinda had long been aware of Bill’s philandering with both adult and underage women, but had remained silent to protect her financial interests in the marriage. She reportedly told Trump that Bill and Epstein made frequent weekend getaways to Irma Lake Lodge. Although she admitted she had not personally seen the subterranean complex, she had paperwork and receipts proving its existence.

    “He told me to pretend I was an underage frightened schoolgirl and to pretend he was a maniacal genius who liked to play with young girls,” Melinda said. “For him it was roleplay, but it really wasn’t, because he is exactly what he pretended to be.”

    On May 14, Trump spoke to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and asked that the U.S. military confirm the existence of the alleged underground complex. To carry out this task, the military employed two techniques. First, a synthetic aperture radar satellite scanned Irma Lake Lodge. Second, a UAV fitted with ground penetrating radar made several high-altitude passes over the property. While neither technique was able to concretely gauge the size and depth of the underground dungeon, both proved massive excavation had taken place where Melinda Gates said it had.

    “It was enough for the military to act on. They didn’t want to just bomb the place because they didn’t know if kids were still down there. So they opted to send a SEAL team, the same ones who raided Biden’s compound and got those kids off the boat,” our source said.

    In the predawn hours on May 17, Navy SEALs launched a tactical assault on Irma Lake Lodge, meeting resistance shortly after they breached the property and crept toward the underground lair. Gates’ security personnel, dressed in paramilitary gear and armed with automatic weapons, detected the intrusion and opened fire on the SEALs. The SEALs returned fire in what turned out to be a 15-minute firefight in which one SEAL and 8 enemy combatants lost their lives.

    Having suppressed Gates’ security, the SEALS found a trap door hidden beneath piles of hay in a horse stable. The door concealed a steel platform—an elevator of sorts—that descended 300’ below ground and opened into a hewn chamber 150’ in diameter and with tunnels branching off in several directions. The SEALs, our source said, spent hours scouring the tunnels for signs of life, but no children were found. However, the operation was not in vain, as they did uncover a facsimile of a young girl’s bedroom, with a pink-frame platform bed, stuffed animals, and racks of child-sized clothing. Moreover, three DSLRs on tripods had been aimed to video whoever had lain on the bed. At least one camera still had an SD card.

    The SEALs, our source added, seized the cameras before exfiltrating the compound.

    In closing, our source said he believes—but cannot confirm—the military has infiltrated other properties owned by Gates.

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    Which is why they are getting close to not needing capitalism. Culling the herd right on time for the rise of automation? They probably got automated factories that can make almost anything in those underground cities. they got all the knowledge and know how stored on servers. AI will be able to make up for the innovation of say half the population. That cuts us down to 4 billion, setting us back to the population of 1974, only 47 years ago.

    Perhaps civilizations are striving to reach self-sufficiency ay a societal level. Perhaps theyve already achieved that and can set us back a lot, which puts us back many decades technologically, while they stay the same. Then they have a large power differential, closer to us and aliens differential. lol

    If u are right, then i suppose the depopulation head fake is to create fear while they really are going for a techno prison.
    I don't think there's a depopulation head fake: rather, the goal is birth control, to free up more resources for automation and innovation while maintaining labor and consumer markets. That way, as the world population starts aging more production of goods and services take place.

    The catch is that there is no such innovation taking place, especially on a global scale, and it hasn't and can't solve the problem of a resource crunch. At least that's what I observed the past two decades.

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    Bill Gates is a physcopath , Here's a story for you about him I found the other day . NAVY SEALs STORM Gates’ Wyoming Ranch https://realrawnews.com/2021/05/navy...wyoming-ranch/ . I cannot verify this story but with Gates hanging around Epstein and then his wife finally throwing in the towel I figured there was much more going on than a marital spat. The pieces are all coming together and perhaps Melinda baby knows more on the de-population scheme of Mr Bill too. Sounds like a bunch of mad scientists hanging out trying to figure how to off a bunch of us and having fun doing it. There's no telling what they are capable of , we just need to be one step ahead and take nothing for granted when we see the train coming down the tracks.
    See, that's what I mean by theories that go haywire. Some argue that they want depopulation because they want to take control of smaller populations. Others argue that they want depopulation because they're crazy, which implies that they want the whole of humanity to go away.

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    Depopulation makes no sense whatsoever to a global elite whose power lies essentially in credit.
    Perhaps their wealth and privilege has separated them so far from reality that they have lost the plot...?

    Or perhaps (returning to my SPECULATION) if they are all planning to go underground to survive a natural disaster like an asteroid hit (Apophis?).....

    They want a much reduced population of us 'peasants' when they emerge to avoid lynching and retribution...?

    re the quote that I pulled out of your longer post.....

    Tell that to Prince Philip...... of course you can't ACTUALLY tell him because he recently died but ....

    Notice how he failed to follow up on his..... "Can't you guess...?" to Fiona Bruce... and watered it down to "Voluntary family limitation...."


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    Depopulation makes no sense whatsoever to a global elite whose power lies essentially in credit.
    Perhaps their wealth and privilege has separated them so far from reality that they have lost the plot...?

    Or perhaps (returning to my SPECULATION) if they are all planning to go underground to survive a natural disaster like an asteroid hit (Apophis?).....

    They want a much reduced population of us 'peasants' when they emerge to avoid lynching and retribution...?

    re the quote that I pulled out of your longer post.....

    Tell that to Prince Philip...... of course you can't ACTUALLY tell him because he recently died but ....

    Notice how he failed to follow up on his..... "Can't you guess...?" to Fiona Bruce... and watered it down to "Voluntary family limitation...."

    AFAIK, their "plot" is to maintain power, and they've been doing that without the need for depopulation. In which case, are they calling for that because of fears of a resource crunch? That sounds valid if there is evidence that automation is in place, but what I've seen so far about that is science fiction.

    What about decreased population? That works if the mortality rates take place across the board; otherwise, one ends up with an aging population, which goes into permanent decline, or one that's too young, in which case, the population rises again due to momentum. Also, it heightens violence, which is what they want to avoid in the first place. unless one starts imagining automation developed to such an extent that the population can be controlled.

    But if that's the case, why bother with depopulation in the first place? Just use the same automation to control the population and cull it if needed.

    In the end, one comes up with the most outrageous theories, and ironically miss the one that makes the most sense: the goal is replacement birth rate, with a slight decline to lower population gradually while innovation catches up. That also allows the elite to maintain power because credit is still needed given such. Hence, voluntary family limitation, which has been in place since the 1970s in various countries, and then non-voluntary family limitation if needed, which was done in China, remember?

    Finally, the catch is that instead of overpopulation, China now worries about the opposite as it experiences population aging.

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    What about decreased population?
    same difference...?

    If the Covid Injection kills millions / billions of people over a certain age and over a period of years by destroying their natural immune system... then controls the younger population with technology etc....

    It's still mass murder...

    (This isn't a strawman - I know you are not arguing for that and you are just contemplating and analysing the logics of the broader situation)

    Prince Philip has actually said that he wants to be reincarnated as a deadly virus... :O

    https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/philip...nt-him-155216/

    Quote 33 years ago, the Queen’s husband spoke on the topic of reincarnation, and what he would come back as if such a thing existed.

    He said: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

    The Duke made the remarks when speaking to when speaking to German news agency Deutsche Press Agentur.

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    An interesting question might be this one.
    1. Here we all are on planet Earth, with a current population of 7.7 billion — projected to be 11.2 billion in 2100.
    2. And now, imagine that the governments and multinational organizations of the planet were all benevolent, altruistic, and spiritually oriented.
    What decisions would or should be made?
    If the governments and multinational corporations of the world were benevolent, altruistic and spiritually oriented, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place!

    I really don’t think anyone has the right to decide to cull the population, commit mass murder, to solve the problems of the planet! A pathetic draconian idea. There are far more elegant and beautiful solutions put forward by Jacques Fresco in the Venus project. He asserted that the world could cope with far more than 7 billion people if all the worlds resources were declared the property of everyone and managed differently. Natural adaptation in our species would result in far smaller families if everyone was fed, sheltered and educated.

    Indeed, I noted recently in a piece about the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation (ironically) and sorry I can’t provide the link, but they noticed this phenomena in Africa when you eradicate disease there is no need for families to have 10 or 12 children to ensure that two survive to look after them in their old-age. However in that Foundation’s case it may well have been sterility drugs in the vaccinations that caused the decline in family sizes.

    With tech properly focussed we could green the deserts and the great desolate land masses and accommodate many millions more until adaptation in the human species occurred naturally. This all made a lot of sense to me. RIP Jaques, way ahead of his time.

    Meanwhile a Netflix series called The Knack, beautifully demonstrates the arrogance of doctors and scientists and the rise of the eugenics pseudoscience in the early part of the century. Of course one of its greatest proponents, Hitler, brought it into disrepute and resulted in it going underground and getting rebranded but it’s still very popular among the elites and evident in the agenda currently playing out.

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    What about decreased population?
    same difference...?

    If the Covid Injection kills millions / billions of people over a certain age and over a period of years by destroying their natural immune system... then controls the younger population with technology etc....

    It's still mass murder...

    (This isn't a strawman - I know you are not arguing for that and you are just contemplating and analysing the logics of the broader situation)

    Prince Philip has actually said that he wants to be reincarnated as a deadly virus... :O

    https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/philip...nt-him-155216/

    Quote 33 years ago, the Queen’s husband spoke on the topic of reincarnation, and what he would come back as if such a thing existed.

    He said: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

    The Duke made the remarks when speaking to when speaking to German news agency Deutsche Press Agentur.

    I don't think there is a right answer. Because there is likely a few factions who want different degrees of the above versions we all are speaking about. Surely some are so dark that they just hate life and hate humans and want max destruction, whether or not they have the influence to prevail as a faction. Some faction probably just wants control of the population as they are control freaks. From gaining control, they may then more gradually depopulate. Or something in between. Its just to hard to say which prevails. So, we can't say that a handful of theories arent all correct given the inability of people who are used to controlling things to agree on one approach.

    Mass sterilization, genocide with biological weapons, to whatever degree its all done in the shadows against our will and is unacceptable. Does it matter which version someone believes as long as they are awake to the fact that there is an attack on us peons. If there is no transparency, then malevolence must be assumed until proven otherwise.

    Yes, they will use the power of their wealth in the market to keep preparing and enriching, but i assume that they are as smart as we are and working toward sovereignty from needing us slaves. Even if they enjoy controlling us, sovereignty from their human laborers is a good plan in case things drastically change. Who knows what is built up from black projects and working with advanced ETs. $120 billion of Bill Gates' money could be nothing to lose for them, or wont matter in the near future.

    Extremes like total annihilation of humans is quite unlikely unless it was an ELE. Even if another species took over the planet, could still have some human groups hanging around like the aboriginals still havent disappeared. We might underestimate human value as we don't know how we are special compared to other evolved species. All this struggle is a catalyst for rapid evolution. The acceleration of just about everything is an interesting aspect to the unfolding of whats to come.

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    ralfy quote: "Now, I have no idea why you are so obsessed with isolating yourself from mainstream media"

    You have a lot to learn using/project so so MANY false assumptions = typical troll/shill behavior.

    Almost nobody can be "isolated" by mainstream talking points as they come from all sides: Radio, TV, Magazines, Friends, Family sharing mainstream stuff over and over and over and over again. Not to mention the "WOKE" paranoia culture forced via more parts of society also pushed by MSM.

    Most Alternative Media have studied/analyzed Mainstream Media lies so many times you can NOT assume "we do not know Mainstream" ... when you used the label "obsession" kind a funny & hilarious & epic fail.
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    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    I haven't bothered reading up on Agenda 21, but I can kind of guess the gist

    However I saw this which might be food for thought

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    Agenda 21 includes zoning areas and when I saw this tweet it reminded me.
    source: https://twitter.com/UKtodayUK/status...74130454237185

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    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)

    What about decreased population?
    same difference...?

    If the Covid Injection kills millions / billions of people over a certain age and over a period of years by destroying their natural immune system... then controls the younger population with technology etc....

    It's still mass murder...

    (This isn't a strawman - I know you are not arguing for that and you are just contemplating and analysing the logics of the broader situation)

    Prince Philip has actually said that he wants to be reincarnated as a deadly virus... :O

    https://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/philip...nt-him-155216/

    Quote 33 years ago, the Queen’s husband spoke on the topic of reincarnation, and what he would come back as if such a thing existed.

    He said: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

    The Duke made the remarks when speaking to when speaking to German news agency Deutsche Press Agentur.
    Decreased population can refer to a drop in birth rates, which is what we're seeing right now, but that leads to population aging.

    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    Finally, a deadly virus might not solve overpopulation, as seen in previous pandemics.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    An interesting question might be this one.
    1. Here we all are on planet Earth, with a current population of 7.7 billion — projected to be 11.2 billion in 2100.
    2. And now, imagine that the governments and multinational organizations of the planet were all benevolent, altruistic, and spiritually oriented.
    What decisions would or should be made?
    If the governments and multinational corporations of the world were benevolent, altruistic and spiritually oriented, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place!

    I really don’t think anyone has the right to decide to cull the population, commit mass murder, to solve the problems of the planet! A pathetic draconian idea. There are far more elegant and beautiful solutions put forward by Jacques Fresco in the Venus project. He asserted that the world could cope with far more than 7 billion people if all the worlds resources were declared the property of everyone and managed differently. Natural adaptation in our species would result in far smaller families if everyone was fed, sheltered and educated.

    Indeed, I noted recently in a piece about the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation (ironically) and sorry I can’t provide the link, but they noticed this phenomena in Africa when you eradicate disease there is no need for families to have 10 or 12 children to ensure that two survive to look after them in their old-age. However in that Foundation’s case it may well have been sterility drugs in the vaccinations that caused the decline in family sizes.

    With tech properly focussed we could green the deserts and the great desolate land masses and accommodate many millions more until adaptation in the human species occurred naturally. This all made a lot of sense to me. RIP Jaques, way ahead of his time.

    Meanwhile a Netflix series called The Knack, beautifully demonstrates the arrogance of doctors and scientists and the rise of the eugenics pseudoscience in the early part of the century. Of course one of its greatest proponents, Hitler, brought it into disrepute and resulted in it going underground and getting rebranded but it’s still very popular among the elites and evident in the agenda currently playing out.
    Governments cannot be benevolent because they employ realpolitik, and multinational corporations cannot be so because they follow for-profit corporate by-laws.

    As for finding ourselves in this mess, what likely caused that was the mass use of oil for manufacturing and mechanized agriculture, and not only for fuel but for petrochemicals, which has led to a tripling in world population after 1945.

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    ralfy quote: "Now, I have no idea why you are so obsessed with isolating yourself from mainstream media"

    You have a lot to learn using/project so so MANY false assumptions = typical troll/shill behavior.

    Almost nobody can be "isolated" by mainstream talking points as they come from all sides: Radio, TV, Magazines, Friends, Family sharing mainstream stuff over and over and over and over again. Not to mention the "WOKE" paranoia culture forced via more parts of society also pushed by MSM.

    Most Alternative Media have studied/analyzed Mainstream Media lies so many times you can NOT assume "we do not know Mainstream" ... when you used the label "obsession" kind a funny & hilarious & epic fail.
    Talk about contradicting yourself! First, you argue that I rely on mainstream media, and now you admit that no one can be isolated from them. What, then, is your point?

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    I haven't bothered reading up on Agenda 21, but I can kind of guess the gist

    However I saw this which might be food for thought

    Quote Mic Mike Michael
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    Agenda 21 includes zoning areas and when I saw this tweet it reminded me.
    source: https://twitter.com/UKtodayUK/status...74130454237185
    You'll find a copy of the report here:

    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...ments/agenda21

    The goal is sustainable development. That is, keep birth rates low so that economic growth can be maintained while ecological damage minimized.

    It's actually been practiced in part for decades, starting with birth control policies during the 1970s. The problem is that increasing prosperity led to a drop in birth rates, leading to population aging for wealthy countries.

    The part about ecosystem protection can't be followed because in order to lower birth rates elsewhere, income levels and infra dev't have to be increased, and that means major increases in fossil fuel use.

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    ralfy quote: "Now, I have no idea why you are so obsessed with isolating yourself from mainstream media"

    You have a lot to learn using/project so so MANY false assumptions = typical troll/shill behavior.

    Almost nobody can be "isolated" by mainstream talking points as they come from all sides: Radio, TV, Magazines, Friends, Family sharing mainstream stuff over and over and over and over again. Not to mention the "WOKE" paranoia culture forced via more parts of society also pushed by MSM.

    Most Alternative Media have studied/analyzed Mainstream Media lies so many times you can NOT assume "we do not know Mainstream" ... when you used the label "obsession" kind a funny & hilarious & epic fail.
    Talk about contradicting yourself! First, you argue that I rely on mainstream media, and now you admit that no one can be isolated from them. What, then, is your point?

    My point was already explained in previous ... if you are not able to see it ... is not my problem and if you want to make it my problem is a choice.
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    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -

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    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)
    The global economy is dominated by around 500 super-connected, multinational corporations, and their wealth grows through a combination of financial speculation and increasing sales of goods and services worldwide. They also control much of media and even pharma.

    Given that, depopulation obviously works against them, as that would mean lower economic activity: capitalism requires the opposite. If so, then what they want is probably manageable population increase, e.g., the use of vaccines and medicine to profit but also to minimize the effects of disease, thus making more people productive workers and happy consumers.
    Then why does Bill Gates advocate depopulation?
    Why would he do that? The bulk of his wealth is credit--more than $120 billion--and all that will be useless with no global economy and world population. And what about the large parcels of farm land that he bought in the U.S.? Will he be making robots that will make even more robots that will do everything that humans should do while he and his fellow elite relax and enjoy themselves?

    Depopulation makes no sense whatsoever to a global elite whose power lies essentially in credit.

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    Maybe because capitalism/wealth (fake or not)/etc is not their target at all but only the means to achieve their goals
    What are those goals? You can't answer, "to depopulate the earth," because that's the means towards those goals, right?
    Do huge farming and other business without world population to buy? that sounds like a dumb good strategy.
    I guess all the poisons out there for humans disproved depopulation.
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    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)
    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.

    This 'vaccine' is different to the old style ones and is described as genetic modification by many professionals...

    Whether the Covid MRNA injections harm the natural immune system over time remains to be seen -
    There are predictions by some that this may be the case...

    Because there are no long term studies and it was released under emergency authorization... no ones knows how it will pan out -
    Even so, "enhanced immune systems" have already been a double-edged sword which has resulted in a plethora of autoimmune symptoms, and thus more capital profit for big biz through a multitude of new "treatments" for these symptoms and expanded medical "systems". If you scan investment tips and info, autoimmune pharma recommendations are exploding, and the price of these new drugs are horrendously expensive.

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    Wrong! I'm amazed that anyone on this forum could possibly think that, unless they are a shill or troll.
    Quote Posted by ralfy (here)

    Vaccines don't destroy natural immune systems. Rather, they enhance them, which is why they've been used for more than a century.
    IMHO, when considering who is behind the depopulation agenda and why, if you stop at the global elite who are also pawns, you haven't gone far enough.
    The origin is off-world, and once you understand that, things fall into place much more logically.
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