Crazy China! Forty People Broke into the 4th Branch of Our Community Without Any Lawful Documents!

[xidaijena]

Hi Bill, can i ask you a favor? I hope you give me a post (thread) to show the truth of China and Lifechanyuan.
I want to share some videos, articles and pics. can you help me?
thanks!
I want to use my way to show the Greatest Creator's love to all of you and us.
We are light beings, we are salt and we are one family under the same Greatest Creator.
I don't want or force you to believe what i say.
I just want to share.
Thanks.
If could, i can devote more to your forum. I am trying.
I hope you can give me the function to upload my pics from my computer directly.

Hope you can understand what i mean.

Love & Hugs to all of you.

[Harmony]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1443408

Hi xidaijena, In your post linked above you mentioned you are at the hospital, I hope you have a quick recovery and back to good health as soon as possible

from xidaijena;
"sorry, these days, i am living in the hospital to do the 9th operations to my breast.
Money to me is also very important.
I can't not devote too much but just want to send my thanks to all of you here.
Love & Hugs to all of you.


Hi all, thanks for all your spiritual love"

[xidaijena]

Posted by Harmony (here)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1443408

Hi xidaijena, In your post linked above you mentioned you are at the hospital, I hope you have a quick recovery and back to good health as soon as possible

from xidaijena;
"sorry, these days, i am living in the hospital to do the 9th operations to my breast.
Money to me is also very important.
I can't not devote too much but just want to send my thanks to all of you here.
Love & Hugs to all of you.


Hi all, thanks for all your spiritual love"

Hi Harmony, thank you for your love. i get it.
Yes, i am still in the hospital and it is not easy for me to recovery so quickly.
It is my karma to get such kind disease.
i feel no hatred now but gratitude.
As a responsible English teacher in a cram school, i pay my life to acheive my duty.
Now, to be honest, the reality makes me feel so terrible and crazy.
I can't help crying a lot and already had gone to the mental hospital in my homtown for five times.
Marriage, the child, making a living drive me crazy and want to suiside for many times.
Thank the Greatest Creator, i quit my job now and can do what i really want to do.
I will start a new thread soon to tell my story and the light from the Greatest Creator of Lifechanyuan.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Milneman (here)
We can do nothing. I'm sad to say that, but it's the truth.

Your government has repeatedly oppressed those it considers threats, that it considers dangerous to its continued existence. The reality is the people of your country must initiate the change from within. And this is going to be hard. But how badly do you want it?

If what I've read follows true, it's time for the Asian spring.

I really...really...hate to say this, given how desperate your situation is. Remember 1989. Remember Tibet. You are the next Tibet.

I pray the Blessed Mother will watch over and protect you.

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Just to point out a very obvious fact. If you're posting from inside The People's Republic of China, the government will be reading what you're sending, and what we're sending back in return. Just saying.

Dear, we are back!

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Posted by wisky (here)

Posted by xidaijena (here)
But now we have pics in the 4th branch, and one of our sisters was hurt by them, there came 4 policemen to see the situation this afternoon. There're no result for the local policemen didn't want to help us. So this is why I need your help here to spread the crazy matter so wildely to let Chinese President Xi Jinping know and solve it!

You are certainly serving humanity well, but from the controllers' perspective, what you are doing is a threat to their control system. In their shoes/mind: What if more people follow your ideas and start building their own eco village. Remember the game of them is called ultimate control. Spreading the matter wide MAY NOT be a wise idea/decision from my humble opinion. Letting your president know MAY cause you more new troubles than solving your existing one. If I were you, I will stay low profile, do your job, but be a street smart, try getting along well with different parties(including local officials), and let time and chaos passes.

After the storm is over, you and your villagers will thrive!

How about now? I am coming~love you ~

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Posted by mosquito (here)
You need to be careful, there are obviously forces at work here that don't want your community to flourish. As a foreigner in China, I'm VERY well treated; in nearly 6 years, I have NEVER witnessed anything untoward, and am only aware of the unpleasantness that goes on here via some friends. I don't know the fullness of your situation, and can only suggest that if your occupation of the land is 100% legal, and if your community leader hasn't done anything to antagonize a local official, then I'd like to believe the police should help you. It seems that the people attacking you are "local" people, but from the photos, they do not look like local peasant farmers to me ! If they are, they don't resemble any of the countryside dwellers I encounter in Sichuan. Is there a possibility they are government people mascarading as locals ??

I don't know. But it certainly seems as though there is much more going on here than a simple dispute with a village community. Does your community leader have any influential contacts ? Have you taken legal advice ?

Good luck, 小心啊！

Thank you for your kind advice. you are sooo right. thanks~：恋爱：

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Posted by CD7 (here)
My heart goes out to you xidaijena and all the people living in your community...its an extremely frustrating situation--<3 <3 <3

love you soo much, and thx.

May God bless you all the time. Hugs.：恋爱：

[xidaijena]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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My sincere thanks indeed for sharing this important story -- from the other side of the world from many of us! I'm very glad you are here with us on Avalon. The perspective you can provide can help us all a very great deal.

There's some evidence to suggest that communities like yours are regarded as potential threats by authorities in almost every country. Avalon member giovonni, who lives with James Gilliand on his ranch community ECETI, in Washington State in the Northwest USA, will be happy to tell the story about how James's community was also attacked by local authorities with an apparent agenda to take him down.

Giovonni reports regularly from James' ranch, on this thread:

Up At The Ranch And Beyond

It's almost like a kind of religious persecution, that's been going on for thousands of years in every culture. If you are 'different', and are seeking to live your life according to different principles, values and beliefs, that's always a threat to the control system of the state. It's seen throughout history, and it's a kind of archetype: that's also why that very theme is at the center of the storyline of so many Hollywood movies (the most recent of those is The Hunger Games). Everyone recognizes it. It's always there.

I wish you well in everything you're doing. It feels important, and it also feels very important that you're able to thrive and succeed in your vision. We salute you and all your friends. Please let them know that there are people now in Australia, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, and both North and South America (and other places too!) who are all supporting you.




The above image is taken from the movie The Hunger Games. I can't know if you have seen this in China. The heroine, Katniss Everdeen, makes a three-fingered salute to the millions that are watching her in the televised fight-to-the-death contest -- inspiring a revolution as she does so.

Oh my, i feel so thank you, my dear "Grandpa" Bill. You are awesome. Just because of your pic, i remember it all the time and love Lifechanyuan and respect the almighty Creator of all the gods in the universe.

Thank you. If could, i hope and i pray, you, Bill, i want to beg the Greatest Creator to let your body become totally healthy and will have the chance to take a visit to Canada branch where Guide Xuefeng is in. That's all.

I pray all the time.

[xidaijena]

Posted by christian (here)
Like a pack of jealous hyenas!

I'm very sorry to hear this. Thank you for your efforts, Jena, you're stellar!

It may surprise many, but homeowners' rights seem to be quite well protected in China, judging by what happened in the case of a man who owned a building right where a highway was supposed to be constructed. He had the right to keep his house or be compensated. Eventually he agreed to the latter.

If there's vicious people from the local authorities against you, maybe then it's appropriate to let the central government know that local authorities are abusing their power, which would be something that the central government would not want. – 天高皇帝远

In a case like yours, you just gotta think strategically, because being in the right morally doesn't help you when push comes to shove. You gotta see who could have an interest in helping you or who could have an interest in pushing back those who attack you. Find out what leverage you have, who your allies could be, very pragmatically, and go for it, gently but firmly.

Good luck, always!

we did it, and many kind people help us. thank you, dear. I love and respect Father Jesus, too.

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Posted by Nasu (here)
Thank you for posting this, like Bill said your vision and situation are special, the work you do is important, thank you. I do not know the locals as you do, nor do I have the understandings that you do, regarding the local political or cultural environment, but I do have one small piece of advice, for what it's worth.

Your old countryman Master Zi or Sun Zu pointed out that if you are weak yet occupy a central position, either geographically or mentally, you should put great effort to make ally's and friends! Make ally's of your neighbor wherever you can. If one or two remain firmly against your position, with work and time, they will become the minority.

Let your enemies plot, while you focus your intentions instead on helping people OUTSIDE of your community, with the support of your wider community you undermine their strength.

Together we are stronger. Love to you, your family and your mission...x... N (holding up one hand with three finger salute)

Hi friend, a little complex for me to truly get you but i can feel your kind and love to me and Lifechanyuan ,thx. Hugs.

[xidaijena]

我总算做到了。i made it.

[xidaijena]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)
think your well known Monsanto agenda is driving your position of condescension, hostility and negativity towards these farmers. (Oh and you dislike and criticize Bill's Ecuador project as well)

Bill’s Ecuador project???? What project would that be??? He has a friend (Christine Breese) that has been working building a community for the past year or so but I had no idea he had any kind of interest in it other than she is a personal friend and he was supporting her endeavors.

Clarification: that's correct. Christine Breese's website is here.

http://umsonline.org/ecuador/UMS-Cam...at-Center.html

Regarding the questions asked of Jena's project, about which I know very little, it strikes me that there's a certain amount of unpleasantness being shown here for reasons that are not easy to understand.

1) If an Avalon member asks for help or at least requests a chance to express themselves because something unwanted and hurtful has happened in their lives, we should offer support and understanding. These are my own strong values and I would very much like this principle to be upheld.

2) Avalon is a virtual but wholly international community. We have members from many dozens of countries in every part of the globe. There's a wonderful opportunity here for all of us, especially those of us who may not have traveled much or who speak other languages, to learn about other cultures, worldviews, and ways of living. (How many of us speak Chinese as well as xidaijena speaks English? And how many of us have ever visited China or have any real qualifications to make any informed comments about the culture there at all?)

3) It's crystal clear to me that anyone who aspires to be trying functionally and practically to create a better world, or examples of a better world, and has made significant and risk-laden personal commitments to do that, should be supported and not criticized as if they're somehow doing something out of line.

We need more people in the world like xidaijena, and we're privileged to have her in our Avalon community. Any new visitor to Avalon might be forgiven for thinking that they can see a certain degree of xenophobia and myopia on this thread.

4) To me, some of the responses to xidaijena have appeared offensive and in direct opposition to Avalon's values. Her own replies here so far to one or two fairly barbed comments and questions have done her great credit.

5) There can be all kinds of reasons for human beings doing anything at all that seems violent or freedom-restricting. Students of world history will know full well that for thousands of years there's been an ongoing battle between the vectors of personal freedom and the vectors of control and suppression. This continues today as strongly as it ever did in the days of Chairman Mao, Attila the Hun, or Herod the Great. China, despite its recent very successful conversion to a western-style economy, is not yet well-known for championing human rights.

Here's what it all boils down to, in my opinion:

If we don't do all we can to stand for and support those of us who are here this lifetime to continue that mission, Planet Earth will be lost pretty much forever and we may all just as well start to plan to reincarnate somewhere else next time round because the battle is lost. We have to get this right this time. Every action counts, even posting a response on the forum. It all adds the balance of energy, in one direction or another.

Oh my, dear Bill, you like The Greatest Creator to me. I never know i have such power or ability to deserve your love to me. I am sorry, i am scuh late to know you. I can only use Google translate to read all your message. English, i only hope and want me be a kid. only kid and know nothing about the world. The reality makes me feel sooooo 失望，但是是你们，是你们对我的支持，从而对生命禅院的支持，并且可能因为你们，纽约时报的记者才会找到我来报道生命禅院。谢谢，i only want to say thank you. the truth is, i am very very simple or you can also say 普通平凡人。i only can teach kids English. and now, i HATE TO TEACH, JUST WANT TO TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO PLAY AND SING AND DANCE TOGETHER. The reality is ,China, is sooo confused now. only Lifechanyuan can keep the children simple. i am the proof. i told you.
Because i have to make money, have to take care of my old mother, i have to find a job but the job nearly killed me unitil Guide Xuefeng accepts me agian.

[xidaijena]

delete for this post, thanks!