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    And this might be added too, though (caveat!) I've not heard this yet. This is Manny's interview with Steve Cambian about the film, another long listen. (But here, there's nothing to watch. )

    https://spreaker.com/user/14526799/y...03-talks-about
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    https://api.spreaker.com/download/ep...ocumentary.mp3


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    It's really a rambling, unstructured conversation, but there's no new info here. It was recorded several weeks before the release of the documentary. I bailed out half way through.
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    Quote Posted by holcaul (here)
    Who's Lue?

    This film was removed by the CIA… I meant YouTube, within 72 hours.



    Enjoy
    I am about an hour in and, yes, it is well done. A lot of data and research is presented and when the narrator makes speculations and they are reasonable and put forward as such. I wish all researchers were this thorough and careful.

    I did notice one big contradiction in the narrative Elizondo is spinning. There is a clip, I think from 2014, 37 seconds into this video, where he states:

    Quote My name is Lue Elizondo. For nearly the last decade, I ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program. It was in this position that I learned ... the phenomena ... is indeed real.
    However, last spring, I listened to Elizondo speak to an audience where they could "ask him anything." The show was hosted by Richard Dolan. Someone asked him how one gets into the AATIP program. His answer was, that you don't apply for the program, the people in the program find you. They look for the person with the right qualifications. Then the logical question followed: "What were your special qualifications?"

    Well, Elizondo could not directly say that (presumably, because of "national security" violations ) but pretty much led the audience to believe that he was an "experiencer". When someone in the audience shouted out the word "experiencer" he smiled, as if to affirm what they said.

    So,, was he an "experiencer" before he entered that AATIP program, in which case he would have know the phenomena was real, or did he only learn it was real after he got involved in the AATIP program? Which is it Lue???

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    First University to recognize UAP/UFO-research as legitimate object of academic research.

    Wuerzburg (Germany) – For the first time in history, the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), previously referred to as UFOs, has been officially recognized as a legitimate object of academic research at a high-profile western university.

    IFEX chairman Hakan Kayal, professor of aerospace engineering at JMU had resigned from the Galileo Project (GP) because he said that his research is well head to make discoveries of the physics behind UAP. I spoke to Hakan Kayal at a recent scientific meeting and told me he had just left the Galileo Project.

    The reason he left is because of the following:

    1. He is ahead of the GP by some years.

    2. GP will fail because its not considering the larger reality. Prof. Avi Loeb whose spearheading GP has no experience in consciousness work which is a prerequisite of making new discoveries in the UAP arena besides detection systems.

    https://www.grenzwissenschaft-aktuel...mIjXNVMjjbsTI0

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    Important UAP Developments 2021-2022 | ICER #3

    Robert Fleischer interviews Don Schmitt and Gary Heseltine of ICER in a wide-ranging discussion about recent developments in the UAP field, talking about things from recent US legislation to Chris Mellon to Avi Loeb and in particular the anticipated unfoldments for Disclosure.

    The discussion presents the challenges on the way to Disclosure, however the conclusion is that there is no stopping now to bring it to a successful conclusion.

    For more information, visit their website: https://icer.network

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    This upcoming, major and FREE online conference will interest those who want to deal with UAP in a larger reality context.
    This conference opens up the many aspects of the UAP reality, we are used to reductionism of many aspects but we need a more holistic integral interpretation of the whole reality. The larger reality is key to understanding UAP.

    In 2021, the U.S. government released a preliminary report on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), more commonly known as UFOs, following decades of denial and disinformation regarding the existence and investigation of these unexplained experiences. This year, Rice will host a major international conference on the academic study of these UFO phenomena, extrasensory perception and other paranormal phenomena.

    “Opening the Archives of the Impossible,” set for March 3-6 on campus and online, will be free and open to the public. The conference will feature eight plenary addresses by the world’s foremost scholars, researchers and writers on the paranormal.

    https://news.rice.edu/news/2022/rice...rmal-march-3-6

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    Why are people continuing to dance around the elephant in the room? It's not "UFO"; it's not UAP; We know what's going on. It's not a mystery. Do your research and stop relying on government propaganda. If you have not figured out what's going on by now, you're not paying attention. I know what's going on and has been going on for thousands of years. I'm not stupid. I have conducted years of independent ET contact research. Wake up people, we are being deceived at every turn. The "government" is the enemy. They are the liars because they made agreements with some really nasty aliens and now we must try to unravel this phu king mess. Stop being spectators!

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    https://thedebrief.org/why-is-the-ai...the-uap-issue/

    32 Min. video interview of CHRIS MELLON about :-

    Why is the Air Force (USAF) A.W.O.L. on the UAP Issue ?

    At about 23 Min. mark he has to admit that ...
    ..."Somebody's head needs to roll".

    As they say in football "Sack the Manager".

    According to Mellon it's the USAF that is hiding the Goodies.


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    American Airlines pilot's harrowing UFO report to FBI so detailed it shook experts

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wei...g-ufo-26284737

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    FBI Special Agent Warns of Alien False Flag Attack


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    DISCLOSURE (PART 2): An Interview with “Ray” 2:13:01

    In this explosive Part 2 interview that lasted over 2-hours, Ray shares incredible insights and information regarding his first-hand experiences in Antarctica and what’s really going on there, the underground tunnel system, operations having to do with rescuing the children, deep insights regarding extraterrestrial life and their intentions, and so much more!

    Download DISCLOSURE Part 2

    Watch DISCLOSURE Part 1

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    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    DISCLOSURE (PART 2): An Interview with “Ray” 2:13:01

    In this explosive Part 2 interview that lasted over 2-hours, Ray shares incredible insights and information regarding his first-hand experiences in Antarctica and what’s really going on there, the underground tunnel system, operations having to do with rescuing the children, deep insights regarding extraterrestrial life and their intentions, and so much more!

    Download DISCLOSURE Part 2

    Watch DISCLOSURE Part 1
    Is there a way to learn a little bit more about this "Ray" character?

    These types of interviews were very popular like 10-15 years ago. The dramatic concealment of the voice and face.

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    ... Not that I know of... it all comes through Jason Shurka

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    How government over-classification may hide UFO videos and harm our security

    If the Director of National Intelligence is looking for examples of excessive classification, she need look no further than the UAP Task Force and its successor. In the meantime, science will continue to be hindered, and inefficiency and ignorance regarding the UAP issue will continue to prevail.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...s-and-harm-our

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    a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) received just days after the existence of the programme had been made public.

    Finally after more than four years, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) released more than 1,500 documents.

    It includes government commissioned scientific reports and letters to the Pentagon regarding the UFO programme.

    The haul includes reports into research on the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans, sets out categorisations for paranormal experiences, and studies into sci-fi-style tech.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/5053632...ufo-programme/

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    HAVE UFOS EVER ATTACKED TERRESTRIAL AIRCRAFT? This is part of the new investigations by the USG UAP task team

    Among the many questions raised by the emergence of one or more UFO investigative offices inside the Pentagon is the issue of whether or not observed UAP (UFOs) represent a potential flight safety hazard or even a threat to national security. This raises the issue of the potential that these observed phenomena might engage in direct, adversarial conduct with earthly aircraft, military assets, or other personnel. Specters of alien invasions from numerous Hollywood classic films are immediately brought to mind, but a number of reported incidents in both official government records and the lore of ufology leave room to ask how much we actually know about potential hostile engagement with anomalous craft.

    There are reports of accurate accounts of historical incidents, we have yet to read of one where the UFO was the initial aggressor. The only times that the anomalous craft became either confrontational or destructive were after a human pilot initiated the interaction in a potentially aggressive fashion. Random flight safety issues aside, it may be reasonable to conclude that most UFOs reported by the military have mostly “minded their own business” until human pilots did something to provoke a response.

    https://thedebrief.org/have-ufos-eve...rial-aircraft/

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    YES, if the "FREDERICK VALENTICH" case is anything to go by...


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    Canadian defence minister was briefed on UFOs ahead of U.S. intel report

    Why was former Canadian Minister of Defence Harjit Sajjan Briefed before U.S. UAP Report was released?

    Former Liberal Minister of Defence Harjit Sajjan was briefed by US officials on the - yet to be published - ONDI UAP report. As revealed on May 6, 2022 by Daniel Otis of CTV News, the Conservative Party of Canada appears to be leading the charge to make the investigation of UAP more transparent.

    Initially, Otis unearthed a video of Conservative MP Larry Maguire's intense questioning of the Deputy Minister of Natural Resources John Hannaford about UAP over-flights of several Canadian nuclear energy facilities. The Deputy Minister denied any knowledge of these UAP over-flights.

    Are there now distinct and on-the-record factions within the Canadian government pushing for more transparency into Canada's long and very complicated history of UFO investigation - with MPs Larry Macguire and Kerry-Lynne Findlay appearing to lead the charge?


    https://zlandcommunications.blogspot...s-briefed.html

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    The BAASS AAWSAP CAPELLA data warehouse resurfaces

    Appendix 1 to the 2021 book "Skinwalkers at the Pentagon" provided, inter alia, a listing of the individual databases which comprised the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) UAP data warehouse, named CAPELLA by its originator Jacques Vallee. Listed there were the following individual spreadsheets:

    Yesterday, a new website, called PhenomAInon, was launched by Otoai Limited Liability Company. Papers to create the new LLC were filed 28 May 2021, filing number 2021-001008746, showing its address as Sheridan, Wyoming. Its registered agent is an entity named Cloud Peak Law LLC. The home page of the website states:

    The PhenomAInon spreadsheet details, are remarkably similar to the BAASS AAWSAP spreadsheet details. One can only conclude that the source of almost all PhenomAInon's databases is the CAPELLA warehouse. Yet, as far as UAP researchers are aware no-one until now, has been able to access the CAPELLA material. Copies were reportedly held only by BAASS who generated them, and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), who were provided with copies, as a result of BAASS undertaking the AAWSAP contract for the DIA.

    Schurman gave a presentation titled "AI and UAPs" at the 2021 AI Expo, which provided an excellent outline of the platform which he has established for his UAP work. In the video of the presentation, Schurman mentions his liasion with such indivduals as Chris Mellon, Lue Elizondo, and others in the Defense industry whom he cannot mention.

    Skinwalkers at the Pentagon: An Insiders' Account of the Secret Government UFO Program Paperback – 10 October 2021
    by James T Lacatski D.Eng. (Author), Colm A Kelleher Ph.D. (Author), & 1 more

    CAPELLA: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena - scientific research: Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) and Vallee's "Capella" Project (ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com)

    Home | PhenomAInon and AI Platform | PhenomAInon

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    According to Congressman Tim Burchett on UFOs "This Is NOT A Foreign Entity"
    He explains the frustration by other congress men and women of evidence of a deliberate cover up.

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    Where's the USAF in all this?

    All old question which we have been publicly asking since 2018. Specifically, "Where's the AF?" The very arbiters of the cover-up for 75 years remain on the sidelines as though they have zero culpability on the entire situation. The Senate Intel Committee should be subpoenaing the very Chief of Staff of the AF. If it doesn't happen then it becomes apparent that the politicians are running interference for the Pentagon. A situation which has been ongoing for 75 years.

    Interesting questions by Mellon for upcoming Hearings.

    "In 2015, the Air Force released a document indicating an average of 1,800 unidentified “tracks of interest” per year. Yet, the UAP report submitted to Congress last June only identified 144 UAP incidents from 2004 through 2021. Are we supposed to believe that the USAF subsequently found explanations for all 9,000 UAP during this five-year period, and each and every one of the thousands that have occurred since 2015?"

    Here is the LINK for the hearings. The first one since 1966!

    On Tuesday, May 17, 2022, at 9:00 a.m. EST, the House Intelligence Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee, chaired by Congressman André Carson (D-Ind.) will hold an open hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena. Following the open portion of the hearing, the subcommittee will hold a closed, classified briefing.

    Open C3 Subcommittee Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDweUbGBow

    UPDATE: https://spacepolicyonline.com/events...-am-et/Tuesday 17 May, 9am EDT public portion to be livestreamed on YouTube site link below :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDweUbGBow

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