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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Well Ukraine people better brace themselves, this is unexpected event

    The ex-Nashi leadership (the bad part of it) has raised a call for all ex-nashi to regroup and build their own army. They believe Putin's army is not doing enough against Ukraine

    These are people who i consider equal or even worse than the Azov, they are rabid animals, red beret Spetsnaz level deranged minds who take orders from no one. They are the reason the Nashi was disbanded back in 2012. They are brutal killers, they don't care for anything or anyone but themselves, pure Nazi on their own, the likes the Azov regiment has no idea about

    We may be talking about 50+ thousand elements who may respond to the call, possibly more. They equal ISIS or similar groups in the way they handle things in the battle field

    This is very unexpected, i don't know how this came to be so suddenly. They had been silent for lots of years since 2015

    But we will see what happens, maybe they will be shutdown (i truly hope so)

    Quote After the Z-operation, a serious conversation with those "ours" (Nashi) who are now "speaking out" against Mother Russia is inevitable.

    Believes the former commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei Mozgovoy, 4th brigade NM LNR Yuri Shevchenko
    "A serious conversation" means a direct confrontation

    The call was made through several private channels, i don't know if this will be pointed out on any main stream media

    Those people will not listen to Russia or Ukraine or anyone else. I hope if this happens both Ukraine and Russia understand the problem and join against them.

    That Nashi section is not fair game, they don't play by any rules but they own

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    Malisa...

    Kudos... This is the best opinion piece I have seen you write on this thread thus far... And I mean that..

    I stopped reading the thread because I felt your tone was very hostile to anyone else posting their own opinions... I posted two links and felt that you not only insulted me, but my fellow Americans (Who truly are looking for honest answers themselves) for my efforts, claiming something along the lines of we are unaware, and have no clue of what has happened to Ukraine for the past 8 years. And we "Just noticed" this is a problem... That was not true... We know that things have been happening there... I am on this thread to learn more, not to be told I am stupid for sharing.

    And as you say, we are also aware of the bias of all media outlets on this planet... I decided not to reply then, because I was upset. And I recognize there is a language barrier, and that you have personally been affected in all of this... So of course you would have a personal beef with everything happening... And I didn't want to offend you... The truth is, All of the military powers of the world do what they wish, along with the politicians, and I felt calling anyone stupid was unnecessary... Truly us lazy fat Americans really have no say, just as those in Ukraine just trying to muddle through whatever happens...

    You made no apologies for doing so, and continue to be unapologetic.. And that's you, as you say...but I want you to know that you would reach more to just post as this one above, without pointing fingers at those who are just trying to get by... These are not the people making the decisions, and truly there is little the average citizen of any country could do to help those in Ukraine, or in any conflict area...

    The new post here however has a different tone... One I can appreciate... We are not your enemy, and we are here to learn and see what is truly happening... without the "Spin" as well... I hope that your future posts are much like this one, as it was greatly appreciated! And I am sure many would agree...

    Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..

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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..
    Can we just give Malisa a break now please - she is naturally going to feel very strongly about all these developments in Ukraine having been personally involved... and she was more or less provoked to make the replies that upset you (provocation either accidental or deliberate) - let's be understanding about what she has been through and grateful to have her input...

    thanks
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    This article really does need to be copied here in full.

    As a personal comment, I've been astonished (but maybe I shouldn't have been!) how hypocritical many of the mainstream pundits have been.

    It's possible they just don't know the history or the real story, but it's also possible their scripts are being given to them to present. Information warfare is all part of this conflict.
    'Question all of it' - The Current Western Propaganda For Ukraine is Epic in Scale

    ~~~
    When we shared yesterday that all interested observers should be very wary of the information from media sources around Ukraine, there was a reason for that. Question everything. Take nothing at face value.



    If you have never experienced the propaganda push surrounding war, the totality of the inbound bullsh*t can be destabilizing, overwhelming and unnerving. It’s one of the reasons why CTH doesn’t share immediate information. Everyone has an agenda.
    Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence community. The sense of sympathy you are feeling is part of an intentionally manipulative operation from within this DC matrix.
    The images, pictures, videos, speeches, soundbites and the cinematography broadcast by U.S. corporate media are all purposefully intended to create a very specific outlook within the American people toward the issues in Ukraine. The leftist United Nations, and the leftist U.S State Dept, will work together on this just like they have done in the prior examples (Ukraine 1.0, Libya, Egypt, etc.).
    It is very easy to become a victim of psychological warfare intended to manipulate our opinions.



    The neocons, war promoting agents working on behalf of the UniParty and the collective globalist interests, are all united in their effort.

    Unfortunately, almost everything being transmitted from corporate news into our psyche is part of a battle for your mind. The goal is to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    This is why people who are familiar with these types of tactics often tap-out when the drumbeats get loudest.

    See: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...151800323.html

    The White House, which means the total globalist effort, tipped their hand earlier last week when they defined “strategic power” and their outlook toward winning the battle for the mind. Everything is about writing a script, creating a narrative, building a “better story,” where the globalists are the heroes. In essence, the “strategic power” battle is for your mind…

    …”Ultimately, the goal of our sanctions is to make this a strategic failure for Russia; and let’s define a little bit of what that means. Strategic success in the 21st century is not about a physical land grab of territory; that’s what Putin has done.
    In this century, strategic power is increasingly measured and exercised by economic strength, by technological sophistication and your story – who you are, what your values are; can you attract ideas and talent and goodwill? And on each of those measures, this will be a failure for Russia.”
    Everything in modern warfare is storytelling.
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    Not sure this has been posted but it’s doing the rounds...




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    • Vladimir Putin's Speech on Ukraine and US Foreign Policy and NATO - 24 February 2022, ENG Subtitles:



    • Putin places nuclear deterrence forces on high alert:

    source
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    These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200703...PI-CRL-eng.pdf

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210502...-sheet-eng.pdf
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    • 3 Reasons the U.S. Responsible For What is Happening In Ukraine

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    Quote Posted by gord (here)
    These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200703...PI-CRL-eng.pdf

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210502...-sheet-eng.pdf
    Oh yes - they work fine!

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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)
    Quote Posted by gord (here)
    These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200703...PI-CRL-eng.pdf

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210502...-sheet-eng.pdf
    Oh yes - they work fine!
    Agreed, can see them no problem. Thanks.

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    I just saw a video from Ukraine - streets full of normal traffic, everything open and all good!

    (apologies, as it is not mine to post, or I would.)

    But it is legit info.

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    Timeline: Euromaidan, the original “Ukraine Crisis” Genuine grassroots revolution or NATO backed coup? Here are the facts to help you decide.

    Kit Knightly

    https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/24/...kraine-crisis/


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    An excerpt from Whitney Webbs's 2/22/22 investigative Report - food for thought

    later (sorry for misinfo - written by IAIN DAVIS on Whitney's site.)



    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02...based-order-1/



    Quote Technocracy: The Operating System For The New International Rules-Based Order


    The International Rules-Based Order (IRBO) is under threat and global power is shifting. As East and West rekindle old enmities we are led to believe that this struggle will determine the future of international relations and the direction of nation states. However, the global transformation is not led by national governments but by a global network of stakeholders and global technocracy is their goal.

    In this article, we will explore the true nature of the international rules-based order (IRBO) and examine the forces that shape it. We will consider if the narratives we are commonly fed stack up.

    < snip >

    In terms of G3P partnerships, Russia’s is perhaps one of the closest to the WEF. The WEF’s annual Cyber-Polygon global cybersecurity training exercise is orchestrated by Bi.Zone, a subsidiary of Sberbank.

    Bi.Zone is responsible for designing and running the Cyber Polygon scenarios and exercises. Sberbank is a majority state owned Russian bank and is among the founding members of the WEF Centre For Cybersecurity (CCS).



    Source: Carnegie
    Other CCS partners include leading US foreign Policy think-tank the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP), Europol (representing EU governments), INTERPOL, the Organisation of American States (representing the governments of the North and South American subcontinents), and national cyber security centres from Israel, the UK, Korea, Saudi Arabia and Switzerland (home of the BIS).

    Of the many corporations involved in Cyber Polygon 2021, Russian companies formed the largest contingent from any single nation. In addition, the WEF partners with the St Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF.)

    The SPIEF International Foundation was formed in St Petersburg in 1998 under the direction of Herman Gref. He was serving as vice governor of the city at the time.

    In 1993, Gref was also a close associate of Anotoly Sobchak in St Petersburg where Putin was Sobchak’s senior advisor. Gref is currently the CEO and Chairman of Sberbank.

    In 2017, Schwab recognised that the SPIEF and Russia were global leaders on international regulation and stated:

    “In the new economic environment and with due regard for the latest technological breakthroughs, we are faced with the need for new cooperation formats. [. . .] I am absolutely positive that Russia, as one of the leaders in responsible global regulation, must play a central role in determining new forms of co-existence in the era of the fourth industrial revolution.”

    Russia and the SPIEF are part of the G3P network and are heavily involved in global cybersecurity and, in particular, the regulation of technology. It is clear that, through partners like the CFR, BMGF and the WEF, the Global Public-Private Partnership is pushing a global policy agenda supported by both sides of the East-West divide.

    WEF assets, like Trudeau and other compromised officials, are positioned to ensure policy distribution is as frictionless as possible. The Russian and, as we shall see, Chinese governments are equally active stakeholders in the G3P’s global governance efforts.

    If we believed the western MSM, this would present a seemingly unfathomable conundrum. While these nation states are G3P partners, we are told that they are also undermining the IRBO. Something doesn’t add up.

    According to Reuters, European banks need to prepare for Russian cyber attacks. CBS claims the DHS are on full alert for the looming cyber war, while the UK media carried the same scary stories. Forbes reported that Russia had been waging a cyber war against the West for 20 years and the Guardian alleged that this was typical fare for the Russian Federation.

    All of this seems extremely odd given that western global corporations such as IBM, Deutsche Bank and Santander were engaged in cyber polygon preparedness exercises that were largely run by a Russian state-owned bank.
    If any of the MSM’s claims are even remotely plausible, the industrial espionage risk alone would appear to have been off the charts.

    Governments from across the western world participate in the WEF Cyber Security Centre which was founded, in part, by Sberbank. At the same time, they keep warning their populations about the danger of Russian cyber attacks.

    Frankly, these Russian cyber-threat stories are puerile. The western governments and corporations, who appear to follow G3P orders to the letter, are seemingly content to be guided by a Russian state bank’s cybersecurity assessment and recommendations.

    A far more credible rationale for these MSM stories and government fearmongering is that they are designed to prepare us, and provide justification, for the digital transformation of the financial sector. In their 2020 cyber threats report, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP) stated that the pseudopandemic had necessitated this change.

    In a barely concealed reference to Russia and China, the CEIP asserted that cyber attacks from nation states were inevitable. They then predicted that the response to this supposedly unavoidable attack would be to fuse the activities of banks, the financial authorities and the national security apparatus of nation states.

    Centralising authority, especially over financial systems, is always the solution as far as the G3P are concerned. Primarily because they assume the right to exercise that authority.

    On the major issues, governments don’t form policy and policy is instead curated by the G3P think-tanks like the CEIP. We should not labour under the illusion that the think-tanks simply offer suggestions. They have the financial, economic and political power to make decisions on the global stage and they have done so for generations.

    < much more at link >
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    Quote Ukrainian border guards do not allow black refugees to the Polish border - only Ukrainians.

    An African student told about it on Twitter. According to him, the security forces pointed weapons at them and threatened them.

    He noted that there was a crowd of refugees with children on the Ukrainian-Polish border for several days. Later it was reported that they still managed to break through to the border with Poland.

    Earlier, the network published other footage from the border: it is alleged that Poles beat Indian students.
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Well Ukraine people better brace themselves, this is unexpected event

    The ex-Nashi leadership (the bad part of it) has raised a call for all ex-nashi to regroup and build their own army. They believe Putin's army is not doing enough against Ukraine

    These are people who i consider equal or even worse than the Azov, they are rabid animals, red beret Spetsnaz level deranged minds who take orders from no one. They are the reason the Nashi was disbanded back in 2012. They are brutal killers, they don't care for anything or anyone but themselves, pure Nazi on their own, the likes the Azov regiment has no idea about

    We may be talking about 50+ thousand elements who may respond to the call, possibly more. They equal ISIS or similar groups in the way they handle things in the battle field

    This is very unexpected, i don't know how this came to be so suddenly. They had been silent for lots of years since 2015

    But we will see what happens, maybe they will be shutdown (i truly hope so)

    Quote After the Z-operation, a serious conversation with those "ours" (Nashi) who are now "speaking out" against Mother Russia is inevitable.

    Believes the former commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei Mozgovoy, 4th brigade NM LNR Yuri Shevchenko
    "A serious conversation" means a direct confrontation

    The call was made through several private channels, i don't know if this will be pointed out on any main stream media

    Those people will not listen to Russia or Ukraine or anyone else. I hope if this happens both Ukraine and Russia understand the problem and join against them.

    That Nashi section is not fair game, they don't play by any rules but they own

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    Malisa...

    Kudos... This is the best opinion piece I have seen you write on this thread thus far... And I mean that..

    I stopped reading the thread because I felt your tone was very hostile to anyone else posting their own opinions... I posted two links and felt that you not only insulted me, but my fellow Americans (Who truly are looking for honest answers themselves) for my efforts, claiming something along the lines of we are unaware, and have no clue of what has happened to Ukraine for the past 8 years. And we "Just noticed" this is a problem... That was not true... We know that things have been happening there... I am on this thread to learn more, not to be told I am stupid for sharing.

    And as you say, we are also aware of the bias of all media outlets on this planet... I decided not to reply then, because I was upset. And I recognize there is a language barrier, and that you have personally been affected in all of this... So of course you would have a personal beef with everything happening... And I didn't want to offend you... The truth is, All of the military powers of the world do what they wish, along with the politicians, and I felt calling anyone stupid was unnecessary... Truly us lazy fat Americans really have no say, just as those in Ukraine just trying to muddle through whatever happens...

    You made no apologies for doing so, and continue to be unapologetic.. And that's you, as you say...but I want you to know that you would reach more to just post as this one above, without pointing fingers at those who are just trying to get by... These are not the people making the decisions, and truly there is little the average citizen of any country could do to help those in Ukraine, or in any conflict area...

    The new post here however has a different tone... One I can appreciate... We are not your enemy, and we are here to learn and see what is truly happening... without the "Spin" as well... I hope that your future posts are much like this one, as it was greatly appreciated! And I am sure many would agree...

    Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..
    You know Denize, we went through this in the past and i asked you that if something i said look bad to please ask me what i truly meant, because sometimes i don't understand how it is perceived on the other side, but you still didn't this time, which makes me very sad since now things look bad

    I would write a very long explanation about what's truly going on here but unfortunately i don't have the time to do that anymore. So i'm just going to say i'm truly sorry you took it personal as it was directed to all the people rabidly attacking without any knowledge or interest to know what's behind all of this

    Here's a sample of it

    Quote Despite the violations that I've heard of that the Ukraine has perpetrated, such as forcing Russians not to speak their language, blocking water to Crimea and soldiers using human shields, there are enough live feeds from Ukraine showing a massive resistance by the Ukrainian population to this invasion Let's cut the bullsh!t. The vast majority of Ukrainians don't see Russia as anything other than ruthless invaders, and atleast a quarter of the adult population are willing to take up arms against them. Russia should pack up and go home and find some other way to get a lasting peace. Russia can be real bastards, just look at what they did to Grozny a few decades ago. And the west isn't afraid of Putin's threats. If Putin and his regime keep this up they will live to greatly regret their decision.

    And China knows not to attack Taiwan, the west is well enough equipped to handle both it and Russia.

    Don't push it guys, or it'll be a huge mess and Russia and China will come out the big losers.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1485475

    So much ignorance and bravado behind a keyboard. This is the kind of people i'm talking about, and i'm sorry "Letsplain" but you have no idea what you are talking about, it's just hate disguised as an opinion

    So Denize, if you were to read that comment but it would say
    "American can be real bastards, just look at what they did to Syria a few years ago"

    And it was written by me, how would you feel about it?

    Not think that i go through western sites every single day and compare the news there with the things i see here back home, and i have to go through thousands of comments such as that one i quotes above

    Do you usually go see the same kind of comments against your country? By the thousands and usually by the same kind of people or specific countries? If you had to in order to find the truth, how would you feel?

    All the people who are 'protesting' with that Ukrainian flag are ignorant of the reality of what that country did in 2014 and has done since then.

    Now they are killing people on the streets of certain ages, if they don't see them wearing a gun and uniform, indiscrimenately (yes i typed that wrong in purpose) If you are of fighting age, and they find you without a gun, you are a traitor and get killed on the stop

    Now tell those people protesting with their flags that this is what is truly going on and how that's the true nature of the Ukraine Nazi military. This is what the money and guns being sent to Ukraine are truly supporting. You don't see this on your side, but i do day by day from this side

    See here, the truth will come out some day
    https://t.me/asbmil/277


    Unfortunately for me, and for whoever found any value on my comments, i'm going to have to leave now.

    So i hope you are all well and keep going strong

    I suppose, or hope, there will be a time in the future when we talk again, but for now, this is it for me
    Tired

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    It's a good thing nukes don't actually exist so all this "escalation" is just a smoke screen and a tv show. Speaking of shows, I just rewatched "Wag the Dog" with Dustin Hoffman, a documentary about sheep keeping with solid references to Kubrick.

    I really hope people don't forget about the actual war, the one waged against the humanity, by the psychopathic elites.

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    Sorry Malisa... I didn't mean to upset you... That was not my intent. I actually loved that you shared your personal opinions on what you learned in a way that was purely from the heart.... This is what I meant about things getting lost in translation...

    I find it difficult for all kinds of people to communicate effectively these days with so much going on and everyone so wound up...

    I want to ask you... because there are things we cannot know, such as do you know of a reputable news source that we can seek out for what is truly happening now in that area? One that just gives facts without slanting it, or misinforming the public to suit any agenda?

    I was just told that Elon Musk repositioned his satellites so Ukraine does not lose internet capabilities.. But it seems that depending on where people look the information is so different it is like night and day?

    I know there are plenty of people that are examining the information they have, but that still makes one question if it is true information they're debating... So having some other resources would be appreciated?

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    Just a few thoughts here, trying to keep ahead of the game just a tiny bit. (Ha!)

    1) Earlier today Turkey announced its intention to close off the Black Sea to Russian warships, something it's entitled to do via the Montreux Convention. In a "time of war", Turkey is permitted to do that via international agreement. And Turkey has now made the judgment that this is war.

    But (a) Putin is unlikely to take that lying down. He's likely to take some kind of action of his own. And (b), Turkey is a NATO country. I've not heard discussion of this yet, but this sounds like a very dangerous potential escalation point. If Russia attacks a NATO country militarily, then all bets are off.

    2) There are reports (though who knows how reliable they are) that Russian commanders are being frustrated by over-extended logistical supply lines, as a result of which they can't move as far or as fast into Ukraine as they wish, or was planned.

    That too is a dangerous situation, because Putin is unlikely to withdraw, even partially. To support the situation from his point of view, tactical nukes (battlefield weapons, not ballistic missiles) could be deployed.

    That might not be probable, but it has to be possible. After all, that's why these weapons exist. If even one is deployed to force a tactical advantage, that would also put this conflict into very dangerous uncharted waters.

    3) Ukraine's internet is still working, apparently to quite some degree. Some of that (or maybe much of that) is because of Elon Musk's Starlink satellites. To disable those, Russia would have to deploy killer satellites to take them down — which it certainly possesses. Those have never been used in warfare, either.

    4) The fourth uncharted territory possibility concerns advanced non-nuclear weapons that Russia very probably has (and has hinted at in the past) but has never revealed, and are classified. (Of course, the US and China have those as well.) If any of those are deployed — whatever they do, wherever they're based, and however they work! — then again we might find ourselves in a world of Sci-Fi warfare where not even the mainstream media can report on what's happening... because they won't understand it.

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