WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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[norman]

Posted by Zamolxe (here)
. . .snip . . .

Posted by norman (here)
I'm damn sure the cabal are more driven to troll the west than Russia is, for one thing.

So this doesn't apply. It is exactly what Russia "is driven" to do.

And also, all these accounts were massively pushing all the conspiracies that you can imagine (Soros, Bill Gates, Cabal, etc). So... the cabal posting against the cabal?
Their purpose was to grow dissent of their "western audience" towards their governments. It is all part of Russia's "soft power" warfare efforts.

Don't be surprised if most of the "conspiracy" websites that we know and love are infiltrated by these forces.

We should stop this here, as the thread is really a fast moving news wire and we are now kinda trolling it.

You cleared up a mistake I made with the timing. Have you got Putin's agenda mixed up with the old communist agenda, which was really the cabal's agenda, which might easily drop us right back in Ukraine again . . .

We could go on and on with this, and it's a fascinating subject to get under the skin of and properly unpack but I don't want to be this thread's troll any longer.

[Satori]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Zamolxe (here)
. . .snip . . .

Posted by norman (here)
I'm damn sure the cabal are more driven to troll the west than Russia is, for one thing.

So this doesn't apply. It is exactly what Russia "is driven" to do.

And also, all these accounts were massively pushing all the conspiracies that you can imagine (Soros, Bill Gates, Cabal, etc). So... the cabal posting against the cabal?
Their purpose was to grow dissent of their "western audience" towards their governments. It is all part of Russia's "soft power" warfare efforts.

Don't be surprised if most of the "conspiracy" websites that we know and love are infiltrated by these forces.

We should stop this here, as the thread is really a fast moving news wire and we are now kinda trolling it.

You cleared up a mistake I made with the timing. Have you got Putin's agenda mixed up with the old communist agenda, which was really the cabal's agenda, which might easily drop us right back in Ukraine again . . .

We could go on and on with this, and it's a fascinating subject to get under the skin of and properly unpack but I don't want to be this thread's troll any longer.

“They” have a wide assortment of tried and true tricks in their hats and up their sleeves. They pull out the trick that suits them at the moment under the circumstances. Legerdemain, founded on lies and deceit and not amusement, is a big and integral part of the game they play: but a very deadly and dire game it is indeed for those who are not “they”. They win, the people lose. As always.

[ExomatrixTV]

• 😨 Danger Close & Why ⚠️

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9wQKZBkQyLY

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by norman (here)

We should stop this here, as the thread is really a fast moving news wire and we are now kinda trolling it.

Mod note from Bill:

Yes, that's concise, wise, and I think accurate.

Zamolxe's propaganda (which is what it is, though mostly wrapped in careful politeness, mindful not to breach any forum guidelines) is rather out of place here. One wonders why he is a member, bothering to spend his valuable time.

I suspect, but do not know, that most who are following this thread share that feeling. Almost all of his posts (do read them), on several subjects, react to and criticize the contributions of others, while seemingly always beating a mainstream drum.

I also think that most reading this thread will understand that the complex issues and developments we're tracking here, as best we can, go far broader, are to a large extent dictated or choreographed by shadowy hidden interests far from Ukraine, and also have deep historical roots.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I also think that most reading this thread will understand that the complex issues and developments we're tracking here, as best we can, go far broader, are to a large extent dictated or choreographed by shadowy hidden interests far from Ukraine, and also have deep historical roots.

I'd strongly recommend this 2016 Oliver Stone documentary — Ukraine On Fire — as essential viewing for anyone who wants to understand the difficult and bloody history, and the many influences that have been brought to bear on it.

It's only an hour and a half long (which may pass quickly), but someone determined to get to the bottom of all the complexity might find themselves watching it several times, taking detailed notes.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YfC7s1A1KjI

(It's age-restricted, maybe rightly so, because of some of the all too real images that are shown.)

[Zamolxe]

Hi Bill, moderators team,

Please give your thoughts on this excellent post from DaveToo.

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)

... This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

I was going to forward this video to a ‘normie’ family member, but just before I started to write the e-mail I decided to do a bit of research into it.
I make it a habit of checking/double-checking sensational information such as this before passing it around.
(Many here already know this habit of mine )

Well guess what I discovered?

The video is not depicting fake Ukrainian victims in body bags.
It is a clip from a longer video that was shot Feb 4, 2022 by OE24.TV, Austrian TV.

On Feb. 4, 2022 Russia had not yet even invaded Ukraine.

The video is showing a climate protest in Austria!!!

You can read all about the story here,
and here.

The youtube video was posted under the youtube account "Malisa - Мария Алиса", so it is clear that the youtube account is controlled by the same person.

Again, this was not a random video from the internet, it was uploaded by the same person.

So Malisa took a snippet of a video from a climate protest in Austria, posted it to her yt account and then, on the same day as the upload of the video on youtube, posted it here together with the following lie:
"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

I have repeatedly shown that the account named Malisa has been spreading disinformation and the mods have taken no action.

This is a "smoking gun". It was a deliberate attempt to spread disinformation. The sequence of events clearly shows intent.

I would like for the mod team to take immediate action and flag the account of Malisa as a fake account that spreads disinformation and notify the members so that they can review their interaction with this account.

Also, myself and many other members would like answers as to why this account has been backed up by the Avalon team multiple times when it has been proven that the account spreads disinformation.

Have you all been fooled again as with Corey Goode and others?

Mod note from Bill:
Zamolxe has been unsubscribed from the forum. Enough is enough. A prior message that was similar in tone was deleted, but this one remains here to provide some explanation.
(It may be quite unnecessary to add this, but we know Malisa pretty well. If reposting or forwarding a video containing poor information was a crime, I think many reading this might be guilty. )

When someone is unsubscribed, they may receive a message on their screen when they next begin an activity. The message is optional, and sometimes we leave it blank. On this occasion, Zamolxe will see:

You clearly do not fit in very well as a member of the Avalon community. It's unclear why you're here. Giving you the benefit of many doubts about your intentions or identity, we wish you well. But please take your social media activity elsewhere.

[Chester]

This should be considered in light of all that's happening in Ukraine -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IF0jxZ03fhk

[Chester]

as well as this short vid - https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7llqn31qw...50-32.mp4?dl=0

and these two Dore clips from yesterday's 3 hours -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mffCvWZujWA

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VOUIMVTAKmQ

[edina]

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)

... This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

I was going to forward this video to a ‘normie’ family member, but just before I started to write the e-mail I decided to do a bit of research into it.
I make it a habit of checking/double-checking sensational information such as this before passing it around.
(Many here already know this habit of mine )

Well guess what I discovered?

The video is not depicting fake Ukrainian victims in body bags.
It is a clip from a longer video that was shot Feb 4, 2022 by OE24.TV, Austrian TV.

On Feb. 4, 2022 Russia had not yet even invaded Ukraine.

The video is showing a climate protest in Austria!!!


You can read all about the story here,
and here.

Hey Dave Too, what's the tool that you use to research video files like that?
I know people can use google images and TinEye reverse images to check image files, but I don't know of a similar tool to do this with video files.
It would be way cool to have such a tool in my toolkit.

Note added: I clicked on the links you provided to see if they led to the tool you use, Is that German? Do you speak German?

Also, my screen started acting up as soon as I opened those links, I shut everything down right away, but,... it does raise red flags. Sometimes these sites are "malware" traps?

Would you provide a bit more info about them?

[Bill Ryan]

If anyone here is still having trouble understanding all the intricacies, complexities, and historical background to the current situation in Ukraine, don't worry: Kamala Harris is here to explain.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HuDsUV44h10

[ExomatrixTV]

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[DaveToo]

Posted by edina (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)

... This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

Hey Dave Too, what's the tool that you use to research video files like that?
I know people can use google images and TinEye reverse images to check image files, but I don't know of a similar tool to do this with video files.
It would be way cool to have such a tool in my toolkit.

Note added: I clicked on the links you provided to see if they led to the tool you use, Is that German? Do you speak German?

Also, my screen started acting up as soon as I opened those links, I shut everything down right away, but,... it does raise red flags. Sometimes these sites are "malware" traps?

Would you provide a bit more info about them?

Hey edina.

I don't have a specific tool to research videos.
I play Sherlock Holmes and try to look for clues.
I started with the fellow doing the commentary in the video and went from there.
One thing led to another and I eventually tracked down the climate change story.

The last time I commented about a language I was corrected by someone (John), so this
time I will simply say it sounds like German. Austrians speak German and German dialects.

The links work for me, I am using Firefox. Try using Google translate or another translator to read the pages in English.
Nothing dangerous comes onto my screen when I visit those pages.

First I'd like to say, in no way was I hinting or suggesting that Malisa deliberately posted that video, in an attempt to spread disinformation!
As Bill said above, all of us from time to time make mistakes.

Secondly, I would urge all of you to take the time to visit my post here and follow the links to the originating articles discussing the climate change protest that took place in Austria.

What's most amusing is that when the video originally came out in early February, people started thinking someone was attempting to make 'staged Covid-19 victims' !!! (not Ukrainian victims)

One person commented:
""So if you die of Covid, you'll become a zombie and come back to life."

[s7e6e]

Absolutely SPOT ON:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4A2YYia2M6k

[mizo]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
If anyone here is still having trouble understanding all the intricacies, complexities, and historical background to the current situation in Ukraine, don't worry: Kamala Harris is here to explain.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HuDsUV44h10

Well thank God for that comprehensive and erudite explanation at least one the pair really understands what's happening

[norman]

The NAZIs and the nuke warning.

In 2015 Kameran Faily, a man close to banking and ruling families through his role as a consultant and backroom banking expert gave an interview which included this snippet near the end.


KAMERAN FAILY - 2015 - The NAZIs and the Nuke warning.MP3

[ 5 minutes ]


The whole interview was loaded with interesting insights about world affairs as they stood at that time, especially in the middle east.

[samildamach]

Posted by Zamolxe (here)
Hi Bill, moderators team,

Please give your thoughts on this excellent post from DaveToo.

Posted by DaveToo (here)

Posted by Malisa (here)

... This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

I was going to forward this video to a ‘normie’ family member, but just before I started to write the e-mail I decided to do a bit of research into it.
I make it a habit of checking/double-checking sensational information such as this before passing it around.
(Many here already know this habit of mine )

Well guess what I discovered?

The video is not depicting fake Ukrainian victims in body bags.
It is a clip from a longer video that was shot Feb 4, 2022 by OE24.TV, Austrian TV.

On Feb. 4, 2022 Russia had not yet even invaded Ukraine.

The video is showing a climate protest in Austria!!!

You can read all about the story here,
and here.

The youtube video was posted under the youtube account "Malisa - Мария Алиса", so it is clear that the youtube account is controlled by the same person.

Again, this was not a random video from the internet, it was uploaded by the same person.

So Malisa took a snippet of a video from a climate protest in Austria, posted it to her yt account and then, on the same day as the upload of the video on youtube, posted it here together with the following lie:
"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."

I have repeatedly shown that the account named Malisa has been spreading disinformation and the mods have taken no action.

This is a "smoking gun". It was a deliberate attempt to spread disinformation. The sequence of events clearly shows intent.

I would like for the mod team to take immediate action and flag the account of Malisa as a fake account that spreads disinformation and notify the members so that they can review their interaction with this account.

Also, myself and many other members would like answers as to why this account has been backed up by the Avalon team multiple times when it has been proven that the account spreads disinformation.

Have you all been fooled again as with Corey Goode and others?

Mod note from Bill:
Zamolxe has been unsubscribed from the forum. Enough is enough. A prior message that was similar in tone was deleted, but this one remains here to provide some explanation.
(It may be quite unnecessary to add this, but we know Malisa pretty well. If reposting or forwarding a video containing poor information was a crime, I think many reading this might be guilty. )

When someone is unsubscribed, they may receive a message on their screen when they next begin an activity. The message is optional, and sometimes we leave it blank. On this occasion, Zamolxe will see:

You clearly do not fit in very well as a member of the Avalon community. It's unclear why you're here. Giving you the benefit of many doubts about your intentions or identity, we wish you well. But please take your social media activity elsewhere.

Over the years I've seen many posts with clips which have turned out false.
99% of the time the member will correct this themselves(it can be emabarrasing and also a great lesson for all) or another member politely inform them.
Ive never seen a member being accused of deliberate misinformation without a chance of explanation this is more a direct charecter assassination than helpful in anyway.

[s7e6e]

I fully support Bill's decision.

[Tintin]

Various naysayers here, one of which has thankfully 'left' the room, or those in denial would be advised to revisit this:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1416183

If it's easier to do so then you can access relevant links via this tweet just sent:

Source: https://twitter.com/AvalonForum/stat...04742428733444

[happyuk]

Posted by Zamolxe (here)

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Zamolxe (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Perhaps they were Ukrainian troll accounts after all and the missiles into the propaganda headquarters did it.

Ukrainian accounts spreading pro russian and anti ukrainian propaganda?

I fail to grasp the logic behind your statement.

think global, and try again.

Those accounts were spreading the same disinfo that the Kremlin and Putin have been spreading. Word for word.

What are you suggesting? That Putin and the Kremlin are coordinating with Ukrainian troll farms to spread disinfo that would justify an invasion into Ukraine and that would lead to the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians?
Because global cabal?

So is Putin part of the cabal? Are the ukrainian troll farms part of the cabal? Why not have them in russia, if it's the same narrative coming from the Kremlin?

Please explain and stop being vague.

Posted by happyuk (here)
Interesting take on this from Patrick Shyu, a former tech lead at Google.

Quite surprised it's not been taken down by YouTube for wrongthink.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sxI8zjrbrcg

So the guy is basically saying... Russia invades Ukraine => Ukraine is to blame for the deaths that ensue because it doesn't surrender.
Uhm, maybe if Russia didn't invade in the first place, there would be no more deaths?

Enjoyed a comment on the yt video:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" -Benjamin Franklin

Without necessarily agreeing with what he is saying, yes that's exactly what he is saying.

And yes, if Russia didn't invade in the first place there would also be no more deaths.

But this is Russia, and when you're Russia you tend to do these kinds of things from time to time.

What he is saying might not be very popular, but in the real world where pragmatics take precedence over idealism and armchair warmongery, not to mention preserving as many lives as possible, it can be hard to fault his logic.