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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    So it's BAIT !, then ?

    Start an international incident ?

    ( that wouldn't require anything more than rusty old junk anyway )
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    So it's BAIT !, then ?

    Start an international incident ?
    In my personal opinion, it could be. It does seem (as Col. Macgregor states) that everything is being done to escalate the dangerous situation, not de-escalate it.

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    A slow escalation, upwards from a trickle would suit the nato cabal best. It gives them time and spin mileage to get their weight off their back foot.

    They're in no position to act tough right now. No fancy Baghdad Airstrike Shock n Awe show. They've got to make Russia make mistakes, little ones will do, and keep tugging at the edges until something falls loose.
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    Helpful reminders...
    PS: The video above with Tucker & Colonell MacGregor is very good. He definitely resonates with the assessment on Russia.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    So it's BAIT !, then ?

    Start an international incident ?
    In my personal opinion, it could be. It does seem (as Col. Macgregor states) that everything is being done to escalate the dangerous situation, not de-escalate it.
    Bingo. This began decades ago (the baiting) with the way Bush 43 handled the Georgia situation, Obama with Crimea and the Donbas region, not to mention "the color revolution" in 2014 (CIA op with Neo Nazi elements), Ukraine never stating an intention to remain neutral (and out of NATO and the Russian Federation), NATO never stating they would not invite Ukraine considering the location of Ukraine on Russia's border.

    I am unsure if this will de-escalate before the controllers get a much bigger prize out of it at the expense of the masses of surface of Earth born humanity.
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    A senior Chinese politician giving a general opinion of the situation.



    The same man giving a specific opinion on the US biolabs around the world, especially in Ukraine. He's concerned about the biomilitary aspect of the work being done in these labs.

    And so he should be, we all are.



    A senior Russian military spokesman relating his concerns about the US biolabs in Ukraine.

    "On the territory of Ukraine an increase has been observed in the instances of rubella, diphtheria and tuberculosis. Instances of measles have increased 100 fold. The WHO acknowledge Ukraine as having high probability for polio outbreak. We believe that in 2007 the African swine fever of high contagion was overseen by the Pentagon."

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    • Zelenskyy Of Ukraine: What Media Isn't Telling You!:
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    • Russian Army Says It Has Found More Than 30 USA Biolabs In Ukraine
    In Ukraine , a network of more than 30 biolabs has been created on behalf of the US Department of Defense. Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, head of Russia's nuclear, biological and chemical protection forces, said .
    The activities of the biolabs have led to an increase in the number of very dangerous infections, Kirillov said. He said biolabs in Lviv were working on plague, anthrax and brucellosis, while labs in Kharkov and Poltava had focused on diphtheria, salmonella and dysentery.

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    • Three phases
    The projects include the company Black & Veatch, which has ties to the US Department of Defense.


    The research consists of three phases. First, conditions are studied in areas where NATO military personnel are likely to be deployed, according to the Pentagon. Then samples of highly pathogenic microorganisms are collected and sent to the United States. Then we'll look at how those organisms can be used to make biological weapons, Kirillov said.
    • Thousands of monsters
    The government in Kiev has sent thousands of patient samples to the US Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, mainly from patients of "Slavic descent." This happened under the guise of testing corona treatments.
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    The single most accurate assessment of the situation I've heard to date.



    Mind you, for the sake of completion, he probably should have mentioned that the UK, EU, NATO and the UN are corrupt too.
    "A rising tide lifts all boats." Greybeard.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    (...)[*]EMERGENCY BROADCAST: Putin Says Biden’s Banning of Russian Oil Imports Is A ‘Declaration of War’ – Pentagon Wargame Estimates ONE BILLION to Die In “NATO-Russia War”[/LIST]
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    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...53544060932102



    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...53546896183296
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    Imagine mass UFO sightings over the War Zones for all to see and they are not from USA nor Ukraine nor Russia ... not even China
    • How would the mass media spin it?
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    https://twitter.com/MnarMuh/status/1501233570060423178


    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...01871724212233
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    On Ukraine corruption and NWO.



    Facts and humour.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    Imagine mass UFO sightings over the War Zones for all to see and they are not from USA nor Ukraine nor Russia ... not even China
    • How would the mass media spin it?
    If there were mass UFO sighting over Ukraine, it would be due to climate change.
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    https://twitter.com/StrongEconomics/...53304386527237


    I warned ion the private blog that cryptocurrencies may end up being suspended. The excuse will be Russia and the news is out now that Biden will sign an Executive Order to regulate cryptos because Russia can use it to circumvent sanctions. Not only is Biden authorizing the regulation of digital currencies, but he is also instructing to move forward with a central bank cryptocurrency. Once that is done, all other cryptocurrencies will be seized and folded into the government’s crypto. There will be no competition. Money historically has also been the Divine Privilege of Kings and Tyrants.

    Biden is now proposing to ban all Russian Energy sales to the West. Prices will rise sharply still and Biden is blaming Putin claiming this is the “price of freedom” for Ukraine which is all BS so governments can avoid responsibility for the collapse in the supply chain thanks to COVID and their shutting down fossil fuels for Climate Change.

    Now it is time to blame Putin for the continued rise in gasoline which is their agenda to save the planet. Their clock in NYC that they were telling the world we had only 7 years left if we did not ban fossil fuels is being accomplished under the pretense of “freedom” for Ukraine.

    Macron desperately needs this war to fulfill his agenda and role in the grand scheme. Macron has been arguing for a European Army and they need this war to justify not NATO, but a new EU Army that is not bound by NATO rules and treaties. The EU Commission has been working on its proposal to establish a joint budget for the Eurozone since 2017, which is the endgame of federalization. The aim was to cement the monetary union in place and thereby prevent any more BREXIT nonsense from their view. Now they are pushing to issue an EU Bond and they are now using this war with Russia as a power grab to federalize Europe.

    We now have private companies throwing Russians out in every possible context. The Russians have replaced the Jews of Germany. They are now regarded as swine and nobody should do any business with them whatsoever. This war is part of the Great Reset. They can no longer fund the governments and Keynesian Economics has collapsed. This is all part of the agenda and it is being carried out in sequence.

    Just like Project Northwoods that President Kennedy rejected, they proposed killing Americans and then blaming it on Cuba to justify an invasion. They will now carry out a cyberattack and blame Russia. Putin offered peace terms that were reasonable. Let the two provinces become independent as they sought since the 2014 revolution, and relinquish any claims to Crimea. Zelensky takes his orders from the West and flatly rejected any proposal. Now Zelensky claims he is open to discussions. If he does not agree insisting that the only thing acceptable is total withdrawal by Russia which he knows is impossible, then this is a warning he is taking his orders from the West – not his people. This war is desperately needed to federalize Europe, default on national debts that can no longer be serviced, and end fossil fuels for the Climate Change zealots. Will they create a false flag and claim Russia violates whatever agreement if it can be made?

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    The Ukrainian people are pawns in this political game for the Great Reset and the dream of a one-world government. They have made it very public. The US will no longer be a superpower, and democracy will be terminated. Already, the EU is the model. The head of state nor the European Commission stand for election – ever. Trudeau in Canada has even publicly committed Canada to Schwab’s Agenda 2030.
    These sanctions and private aggression toward anything connected to Russia will drastically implode the World Economy. There are Russian private citizens who own gas stations who are being targeted. NJ Governor wants to shut down Lukoil gas stations. This is no different from the discrimination against blacks or the Jews. But it is now all perfectly OK – obedience to authority!
    This is all shaping up as intentional. The same agenda I have warned about that, especially Europe can no longer fund its government because of perpetual negative interest rates. I have reported that the top US banks were not accepting European sovereign debt as collateral. The crisis of ver debt in Europe began with the REPO Crisis in August 2019 when US banks would not lend overnight to European banks. That spread to the Sovereign Debt.
    This war is being deliberately orchestrated. There is nobody interested in calming the situation. Every excuse to raise the Iron Financial Curtain is being carried out. The sanctions imposed on Russia for Crimea are still in place. Once sanctions are imposed, they will NEVER be removed. China is now moving full-steam-ahead to replace SWIFT, which stood tall when Obama wanted to remove Russia and they refused to allow SWIFT to be used for politics. Now SWIFT has lost all integrity and the price we are witnessing is the collapse of the world economy.

    The US and Europe will become isolated and the world is being torn in half. This is what our computer has been forecasting for post-2032. Our computer has never been wrong on its major forecasts for it is NOT biased like human analysts. Some are reporting that Russian businesses in Germany are being attacked with windows smashed. Instead of the Jews, this time it will be Russians.

    This forecast was made back in 1985. We reported that 2016 would be the first time a non-politicians would win and that turned out to be Trump precisely to the day of the Pi target. From 2020 we would see a commodity boon on shortages, rise in civil unrest, the disease cycle, and our war cycle were all coming together. We also warned that post-2032, China would emerge as the new Financial Capital of the World. These forecasts were not personal opinions. NOBODY can make correct forecasts for so many years based upon personal opinion. Anyone who claims to be so lucky is making that up.

    The government wanted our models when they saw they were even forecasting the rise and fall of governments. We forecast the fall of Russia in 1998 which led to the collapse of Long-Term Capital Management and the first bailout by the Federal Reserve. (Watch interview on Highwire)


    For all of those who said Bitcoin replaced gold and the dollar, if they didn’t bother to look at a chart, it has been declining since last November when this plot to create a war was hatched.

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    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
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    Imagine mass UFO sightings over the War Zones for all to see and they are not from USA nor Ukraine nor Russia ... not even China

    • How would the mass media spin it?
    If there were mass UFO sighting over Ukraine, it would be due to climate change.

    being sarcastic or is it their "genius master plan"?
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    So I'll say it straight. As a potential military-economic alliance, Russia/China/India, taken together, don't need a thing from the "west".

    They have all they need in terms of resources, facilities, knowledge and expertise to flourish and expand very nicely all on their own for the next several decades, just as if the "west" didn't exist at all.


    That is about the same as what I am saying, except I will go a step further and suggest striking "just as if":

    They have all they need in terms of resources, facilities, knowledge and expertise to flourish and expand very nicely all on their own for the next several decades, the "west" didn't exist at all.


    And, there is a perfectly good reason to leave "west" in suggestive quotes.

    That is because the other cultures are firmly rooted in ancient history, and the latter is a novel, artificial deceit, the likes of which had never been thought of in those other places.

    Because it is artificial in such a way as that we can say nearly everything about it doesn't work, then, effectively, or "de facto", there is no such thing and never was.

    I think of it as a mental and environmental problem, not a genetic disorder, so you can actually get out of it by changing your point of view. That sounds more or less like what spokespeople of other cultures are asking for.

    Because "the south" is more closely attached to those three, then, we are kind of left with "the northwest" which may be ruminating over some self-inflicted isolation.

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    Previously:

    "U.S., Poland Look at Providing Soviet-Era Aircraft to Ukraine"
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraini...rs-11646511532
    Quote The U.S. is exploring a deal in which Poland would send Soviet-era aircraft to Ukraine in return for American F-16 jet fighters, U.S. officials said Saturday, in the latest bid to help Ukraine respond to Russia’s invasion.

    But then:

    "Washington has warned that Warsaw’s plan to hand over Soviet-made MiG-29 jets to Ukraine may threaten the “entire NATO” alliance"
    https://www.rt.com/news/551512-penta...-fighter-jets/

    What changed? This:
    Quote A plan under which the US would transfer Polish-owned planes to Ukraine risks dragging NATO directly into a military conflict between Kiev and Moscow, the Pentagon said, as it seemingly rejected a deal earlier proposed by Warsaw.

    On Tuesday, Poland announced that it was ready to deploy “immediately and free of charge” its fleet of MiG-29 jets to a NATO base in Germany and hand them over to the US military. In return, Washington would have provided Warsaw with “used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities” to backfill its fleet.

    Responding to the proposed deal later on Tuesday, the Pentagon signaled that it was reluctant to play any role in the affair.

    “The prospect of fighter jets 'at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America' departing from a U.S./NATO base in Germany to fly into airspace that is contested with Russia over Ukraine raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance,” Pentagon spokesman John F. Kirby said.

    Pointing to potential “logistical challenges” such a plan may encounter, Kirby said that it was “not clear” for the Pentagon whether the action was warranted.

    We do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” the official noted, adding that Washington would continue to discuss the issue with Poland and other NATO member-states. At the same time, he said that Poland was in its right to give its own warplanes to Ukraine, adding that the decision was “ultimately one for the Polish government.”
    Ohhh i see, they wanted Poland to directly deliver the planes and get involved into the war, but now that it's on the US hands to deliver them then is "not a tenable plan". Let's play 'spot the manipulator that got caught red handed trying to doom one of his partners'. Every other country in NATO will probably see this and take notes for later..

    Who wants the hot potato? Certainly not the US. "Ukraine is lava"
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I'm getting a babies and incubators flashback to 1990 with this parasite's propaganda bullsh1t. More concerning is he's openly promoting big arms sales, continued fighting and the escalation of tensions.



    The above and below represent a watershed moment for me at least. These lunatics are really pushing for things to get seriously gnarly.

    "It is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they are planning to do themselves."

    Oh my word. The absurd theatre of it. Her body language, speech and eyes are straight out of Stepford wives do MK Ultra whilst the speed of her fidgety hands suggests her nerves are in tatters.



    Tell us some more, oh warmongering Stepford witch.

    "Ukraine has biological research facilities" translates as 'We are fine tuning genocidal American bioweapons on Ukranian soil because our illegitimate puppets have been running the country since 2014 and we'll do what we damn well like there."

    "Research materials" translates as weapons of mass destruction. She's saying that America will quite happily release them in Ukraine, cause a genocide and blame it on the Russians if it suits their agenda. It also leaves scope for American agents to release them in other countries somewhere down the line and subsequently frame those sneaky Russians for it. Or whatever, the permutations are endless.



    Personally I'd settle for any sneaky American or Russian agent interfering with her next meal and calling it quits at that. It'd spare the rest of us a lot of grief.
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